How much power does an E39 540i put down???
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- čas přidán 25. 08. 2024
- The e39 generation 540i (97-03) is very underrated power wise. The factory claimed only 282 crank horsepower, so we checked to see how much it puts down at the wheels in the real world. If your not familiar with what these put down you are bound to be surprised one way or another! As always thanks for watching guys, let me know what you think in the comments!!
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Jesus. It's a 20 second video. Why make it 10 minutes long?
why not?
I was thinking the same. This was horrible
Why not mention which mm:ss are these 20 seconds?
Willy Appel You didn’t understand the original post.. the whole idea is that the video is so long and only 20 seconds worth happend during the video. So there is nowhere to point to 20 seconds because those are spread out over the long video...
@@epicon6 you didn't understand his response....he was saying it was selfish not to let everyone know the timestamp so we could skip!!
Just purchased a e39 recently. Most fun car ive owned. Subbed!
It has 268
mine stock 288
Depending on non Vanos and Vanos variants and the 8 belongs in front of the 6 bud haha 😆
My M62 NV 4.6 ALPINA motor on 6sp 420g, custom exhaust churning out 294whp / 423nm torque on wheels. Done on Dynojet
E39 540i sport here..6 gear ... Dinan tune, throttle body, intake manifold, exhaust.. ... over 325hp here.. over 350 ft/lbs torque
i know its two years later but was that whp?
Ahh Duu that would seem pretty accurate for whp from those mods
Numbers were pulled directly out of his ass
@JZ408 full cat delete... 3" back from the collector deleted resonator) to an RPI muffler.
No. That isn't the sound of broken VANOS seals. That's the sound of chain moving around from broken timing guides lol
it says in writing in the video that it was discovered to be the chain guides.. I also have another video addressing this issue.
dude I have 2 of these both E39 01 auto and 02 540i 6.exhaust tune Cai..sounds like a Mustang lol but better.. can't stay out of the damn thing,,the drive is second to none..
i just bought mine yesterday and agree! Love the car, never knew id enjoy
Got an instagram or some I can talk to u about that ?
@@richardona5573 I work on a lot of these cars as well, my instagram is Jktway2
My FXT makes 250WHP in Denver, but I still want one of these old E39s
I really want to buy a 540i, I have a 520i which love to bits. But the 540i looks insanely great. Thanks for the video
I enjoyed that..Good stuff young fella.
I went a little crazy... full cat and resonator delete... at the collector where the resonator used to be I went to a single 3" (up from the factory 2 1/2") nice stainless dual 3" tips... it sounds like a beast but I do notice more low/mid power and torque.
My car is a 2000 540i, 6 speed, DINAN tune and larger intake manifold and throttle body.
Throw an apexi safc on it. This is exactly what they're made for, minor fueling tweaks when i full tune isn't required.
This the last generation of bmw v8 which actually sound good
Im a big fan of the e92 m3 v8 as well, but this car just has a unique sound!
Andrew Kerman
Yup, agree. E39 M5 (E39 540 too) and E92 M3 are the best cars BMW has made because of those engines
My 2000 e39 540 completely stock dyno'd right at 255 at the wheels (: I was so happy!
Thats awesome results for 100% stock! Get another easy 10-15 hp just from swapping to the 97-98 non catted exhaust manifolds, probably find them in a junkyard for real cheap.
@@andrewkerman5347 not in montana you wont find cheap in junkyard here nothing is cheap if at all....come to think of it not many 540i's either i guess they dont like wide open roads hmmm . i own a 2000 540i auto havent driven it yet next summer i need to replace chains and guides and water pump and get the bugger to stay out of transmission safe mode. then the fun begins bwahahahaha when i stomp on it i want to see a little smoke cant be too greedy cop shop can see my house directly 2 blocks away and they all know me because of a 554hp 490 tourque camaro i owned once man that thing got me in alot of trouble.back to the BMW i cant wait to open it up on an unpatroled 5 mile piece of pavement i know of.
why does this guy wiggle the stick the whole video ? XD
Best 5 series ever . 540i is the best sedan
Andrew I LOVE your videos! I would love to see more about your E39 cars, ESP the supercharged one. I have an '01 E39 540i/6 and I REALLY want to Put a Vortec SC on mine, currently I'm trying to track down all the other mods I'll need to do if I boost it. Like an M60 intake and Some Long Tube Headers but DAMN are they EXPENSIVE! I keep hoping I'll get lucky and pick a set up second hand, or find a nice used set online somewhere because NEW they are still around $2500.! (OUCH!!!!) I wish I lived closer to you guys I'd love to See/visit your shop! Would be so nice to have a shop that's local that also does performance stuff for these cars! , I'm from Texas and most of the performance shops around here just do LS or LT car builds or Ford 5.0 Coyote builds.
My instagram is Jktway2 look me up sometime! I worked@ a European shop for 8+years I have pictures of all sorts of cars I worked on up there. I do Mobile mechanic work now, any day I get to work on a BMW (that's not my own) is a good day! ;)
Mine got 303 crank horsepower, 97' manual, no mods.
PETRISOR M those are very solid numbers for stock!
PETRISOR M because hè got the m62b44 no vanos shit best engine
PETRISOR M bThe
PETRISOR M that sir is a lie lmao
I got a 98 pre Vanos m62 so dope
Nice 540i man! Love the E39. Is that the original color
Thanks man! Sure is, one of my favorite things about the car.
Awesome! Which red is it? It looks similar to Royal Red but I believe that Royal was an M5 exclusive color. Its so hard to find the 540i with a proper 6 speed as well
It sure is, a 6 speed 540 is a lot closer to an m5 than people think though. With an LSD your most of the way there. The color is Sienna Red! I believe it was only available for one or two years, only ever seen a 99 in this color.
@@petergriffin7401 -- Have you driven both cars? If you had, you wouldn't say that. Back in 2007, I was shopping for a 5-series, and I really wanted an E34 M5. I test drove two very nice examples, and they were quite fast, but I couldn't get over the very old looking interior, and I really don't like the look of the rear end, especially the taillights. Then I decided to drive an '03 540i 6spd w/M appearance package... I bought the '03 540i the same day.
The E39 just feels so much more modern than the E34! And, the 540i actually felt quicker than the M5, since the 540's V8 has more torque down low than the M5's inline-6. The interior of the 540 is sooooo much nicer than the E34's too, and the E39 is much better to look at, especially with the M5 bumpers that come with the M appearance package.
Overall, the E39 is a quantum leap over the E34... Although that E34 M5 would be worth much more now!
Color combo🔥🔥🔥
Buying my dads e39 540i in May and can’t wait to get behind the wheel
From 2000 by the way
Just bought one check it on my channel 98 pre Vanos m62 motor timing done coolant done flawless just got plates and up to date stickers today so dope
That's pretty good. I haven't been watching any of your other clips but is this stock or have you done anything to it?
And what's the mileage? My buddy have a '98 540 but not an account here. I have a '99 528 but it's enough for. ☺ Thanks.
im trying 2 buy a 97 e38 v8 stick
can you reccomend what to check befor buying, its my first car
With the stated mods and the admittedly messed up fuel trims, what is the point of a misleading teaser line claiming this video will show you how underrated a 540i is? Thumbs down...
the only mods that aren't factory parts are a dinan cai and a muffler delete. The other two parts are right off of a 97-98 car. if you research the results of a 97-98 car (this is a 99) you will find they typically produce right about the same amount of power this car did. In other words this car is equivalent to a 97-98 car which came stock with the stock catless exhaust manifolds and a larger intake manifold. Even if it retained the original 99-03 parts it would have only produced about 10 less hp which is still significantly more then you would expect from a supposed 282hp engine. At a typical 15% driveline loss with a manual transmission the car should only produce about 240whp. These cars are very underrated.
My '99 540i/6, stock with the exception of high flow cats and full exhaust, made 260WHP.
wow thats pretty good, what did you do for an exhaust?
I want to Dyno mine... I just bought it last year.. 2000 540i 6 speed. DINAN tune, larger intake and throttle body. Full cat and resonator delete, 3" back from the collector I installed instead of the resonator. 3" dual tip stainless muffler.
If you like this video check out the most recent dyno video here!!! czcams.com/video/LcJeGzMhd2Q/video.html
I’m also from NH and just picked up a 2000 540i m sport, car is an absolute beast.
Cool video. I've got a 03 m-sport and do you think taking out the resonator will give it a few extra hp?
resonator usually just loses midrange from my understanding. i did the muffler delete too get more sound without any added drone. swapping the manifolds to the 97-98 non catted does increase top end by like 10 hp
My 03 M-sport with resonator delete and M5 3.15 LSD put down 263whp and 300wtq
hey man I've probably watched your 540i straight pipe video dozens of times haha. Out of curiosity what was the seat of the pants feel change with the resonator deleted? Is the drone livable in a daily?
With just the resonator deleted its very mild. I loved that because the car is too quiet stock. Made it hard to drive stick since I couldn't hear the motor. Very little drone too. With the straight pipe it's turned up to 11 outside the car, sounds amazing but still very livable inside. Drones a little bit but the e39 is such a tank the noise inside is nothing compared to the sound outside the car.
Thats awesome man, thanks for the advice. I might just have to delete my resonator ahah. E39s were certainly built very well! No wonder they are still universally loved!
Can’t believe you stopped making videos I need to get in contact with you.
I might trade my e30 for an e34 530i 5 speed this weekend, any ways to beat some power outa that 3.0 m60?
Install m60b40 intake and you will get around 20hp ekstra
question, the test of the dynamometer I give you the power hp sae (estimated calculation according to characteristics of the transmission and accessories of the engine etc) or I give you the real power in the rear whp rails ??? remember that hp = 1.12 whp (approx empirically)
WHAT I DID... cold air intake, m60 manifold, m60 headers, custom mid, to dinan catback... I PUT the PINK top injectors on to help match with the air increase! 3lb's heavier, but on the stock MAF, so it will adjust accordingly. try that my friend. and i have NO TUNE.
doesn't seem like the injectors are necessary man. I have all the same stuff except your exhaust is probably better flowing and my car is pig rich with no tune and stock injectors. 11.5-11:1 throughout the power band.
oh i thought i saw 12.5 at the top. how did it go "pig rich" after adding more air/oxygen?
ya i was confused by that too, double checked my afr tool which has a new sensor and I am sure it is correct. Doesn't make a whole lot of sense.
which wideband are you using? the technology your using seems to be up to date for sure. nice setup btw. I assume that yours and fathers garage/shop?
the sensor is a bosch lsu 4.2 and it hooks up to a Land and Sea module then right into the dyno's control box. Just replaced since the sensor was fouled. Thanks man! Yep it sure is!
Make a video of the car after a tune. Curious to see what the mods do to it with a tune
Have a 98 any suggestion to chip tune or reflash options
Check out my newest video with all the details on the cars specs! czcams.com/video/9eaLli6o0js/video.html
Why does my 530i have wider stock tires?
hey my name is gesny i got 525i 2001 can you work on it for me please
what rims and tire setup do you have going on?
This is what school pc fans look like
What's motor it's better? M62b44 non vanos or m62b44 with vanos to Was more HP?
stock to stock non vanos. The parts that increase top end hp are interchangeable. With the intake manifold and exhaust manifold of the non vanos car the vanos car will have the same top end hp with a bit more low end
Non Vanos more Realiable it’s the same hp I think torque the TU has the m62 beat a bit but all those issues I wouldn’t have it any other way. I got a pre Vanos 98 so happy!
Apparently haltech has an ecu that works with the m62... You should check it out
I need mine tuned
🤔 the 540i is 286ps from stock
You said in the video that you added mods to the car without tuning the ecu . Modern vehicles with ecu's are tuned to make the most power with the equipment on the car. If you change the hardware but not the ecu tuning you most frequently see what you're seeing here on the dyno where it looses a bit where you expect it to have gains. Watch this video featuring Steve Dinan, he explains it in better detail. czcams.com/video/6bkDKqoGSdU/video.html
I'm not saying not to mod them, because we all love to do, but, maybe don't expect drastic performance increases before you pair the hardware with some software. Something that he doesn't go into much detail in the video is that sometimes you can adjust the volume of the intake by changing the diameter for different lengths around where the mass air sensor is to adjust what the computer reads in order to fool it into working correctly, but this is alot of trial and error. This is likely what I'll be doing with my e34 m60 when I get around to my restoration.
Much of what you are saying is very true and maybe i didn't explain this clearly enough in the video but I did see a pretty decent increase in power. In line with what you are saying I was not expecting this and do eventually plan to tune the ecu correctly. Although I didn't have a before and after comparison the car did produce over 10hp more than a stock 540 would. Where I lost power was on the bottom end, due to vanos problems. I didn't go into great detail in the video on this and maybe this will be the subject of a future video but I replaced my timing chain guides and vanos seals and as a result of these repairs I have an engine light that won't go out. I think it is causing the vanos to default to one position thus they are not phasing the cams to increase torque at low rpms. Hope this makes sense, but the car did in fact gain hp from the mods performed much to my surprise in fact!
This makes sense. I'm glad you saw increases. Keep doing what you're doing :)
Driven Hard uh oh something slipped...
what haha
Driven Hard i would GUESS, sensor wheel. What are your codes?
👍🏻
Another good example of why you should never buy a used one owned by a Fan Boy or Boy Racer, especially a M5 clone. They've been ridden hard and put away wet.
great input i own a 540i myself i purchased it a few months ago v8 manual 6 speed runs great only thing i notice is theres a little chatter and i dont know what it is do you think perhaps it can be my chain guides?????
its possible but as these cars age they do make some small sounds here and there. How many miles does it have and what year?
Mine is a 2001 has 123,000 miles it's in real good shape thank you for troubleshooting with me I'm going to have to subscribe!
no problem man! happy to help a fellow e39er! Thanks for the subscription! my timing chain guides went at 141k miles and the general consensus seems to be that it happens around 150k. Another common cause of a chatter sound is the crappy dual mass flywheel. I replaced mine with a single mass aluminum JBR flywheel, although not having the dual mass will result in chatter as well except the single mass is much lighter and more fun to drive. I also added a southbend clutch with sprung hub disc, this got rid of most of the chatter. The flywheel chatter will be more apparent from the side of the car looking under, while the chain guide sounds come from the front of the engine.
no problem man! happy to help a fellow e39er! Thanks for the subscription! my timing chain guides went at 141k miles and the general consensus seems to be that it happens around 150k. Another common cause of a chatter sound is the crappy dual mass flywheel. I replaced mine with a single mass aluminum JBR flywheel, although not having the dual mass will result in chatter as well except the single mass is much lighter and more fun to drive. I also added a southbend clutch with sprung hub disc, this got rid of most of the chatter. The flywheel chatter will be more apparent from the side of the car looking under, while the chain guide sounds come from the front of the engine.
what kind of dyno is this? Mustang dyno? dynojet?
Land and Sea Dyno-mite with an eddy current brake. Closer to a mustang dyno than dynojet since its a loaded dyno
Andrew Kerman I got 234whp stock 99 540i 6speed muffler delete on dyna pack dyno. 275 wtq
torque is nice! Put down about the same amount with mine, but that hp figure seems pretty low.
277 FT LBS peak torque ain't bad.
I have a nice '03 Msport 6 speed. Imola...You should just enjoy these cars for what they were built for. Not rag them out on a dyno.
What were the built for?
Getting into trouble on the way home from dinner with one too many margaritas!
Shay McQuaid nah we dont drink and drive, and we definitely want the engines to see their full potential.
Shay McQuaid someone doesn't know what margaritas are clearly..
Update!?
new video coming in the next few days
dude, it's in neutral.
hp on the cranq or wheels ? i have 540i also with str8 pipe , no cats . runs great ! see my videos
Wheels, its on a dyno duh.
When i did a run with my 535i v8 on the dyno they gave me only cranq Hp but oke thanks for the respons
hate when dyno operators do this. Better to see what it makes in the real world at the wheels.
relocate IAT sensor :D
Depends on who you ask. If you ask a 540i pilot, he'll swear his car is the fastest thing on Earth and a better value than an M5. He'll also claim the car gets 32 miles per gallon at 110 miles per hour. 540i pilots are hilarious.
RCs By A Dummy i actually get that mpg in my 540i but at 120mph
I know these type of guys
case in point
why thank you i try to be funny.....lol
nice video dude , i just have a custion , i change my suspencion from air to spring , i remove the suspencion air pump and the onboart display allwais says "Load Level Inactive " i now it star saying since i desconect the pump but how i can delete that "Load Level Inactive" shit , can see my avg speed o fuel cons because of that , and ther is not clear info on this model my is a e39 97 m62b44, and yeah it is a epic drive , and with the muffler delete , it screams power! jeremy clarkson style
Honestly i was unaware an e39 ever came with air suspension, I've never encountered one. Wish I could help you man, goodluck!
thx man , it seems in mexico all e39 from this year are pneumatic suspension and it's a pain when they go bad, like 450us bad , so any mods for the engine your recommend?
really wow i had no idea e39s ever came with air suspension. Honestly factory air ride sucks when they go it is just dumb how much it costs to replace as you mentioned and honestly the benefits really aren't there with air ride. Wish I could help you on error in the dash but i honestly don't know. For the engine I recommend an intake, m60 manifold if its a 99-2003 and headers. If you have a 99-03 the factory 97-98 non catted exhaust manifolds are a cheap upgrade with about 15 hp but if you have the dough headers will be even better.
yeah it's a bit difficult been a e39 owner in mexico, some parts are really like really cheap , i buy 2 spring cushions oem from a 2003 e39 from 50us, and then a friend brake my cup holders ,,80 funking dolas for 2 console cup holders it's insane hahaha they just don't know what they have and the mods well you can't just go out and find any mods for this car when only you and other few people have e39, literally in the 2 years the i have this car i only have seen like 4 e39 , that's maybe the reason i love this car so much , it's unique , like you say in one of your videos dude , it's civilized but a beast at the same time, kind of like a split personality hahaha
really appreciate the advice many thanks,
what headers would you recommend?
Not enough for the price of maintenance and repairs I should know
Shaky
poor bmw ;/ its not for car for teenagers ! E39 is the best generation of whole BMW
Well as long as they are taken care of! The reality is that a lot of the people who own these cars now are teenagers just because of where there values are. Well non M ones. It is definitely one of the best!
Can confirm, am teenager with a 540i... Recently bought it from craigslist for scary cheap and am slowly fixing it up.
@@Ben.e39 just bought one with 89k miles 1998 with Vanos for $2500
But I'm 19, so almost not a teenager. Anyways, I barely rip it like ever. I want to do a 0 60 but once I do a fluid change on the transmission. But not at every stop like some idiots would do. That would ruin the fuel economy
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