Review of a "normal" Rinaldi axe. Tree felling and opinions!
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- čas přidán 22. 04. 2023
- I got me another Rinaldi axe!
This one I bought mainly for felling small and medium size trees.
The video can be viewed as a review of the axe marketed as a "Rinaldi normal model". Interresting description, I think. And it can also be viewed as a quick demonstration on how to set up and hang an axe. And of course it can be viewed by those who just enjoy watching forest videos and tree felling with axes. You decide for yourself!
Nice pair you got. I like the ringing of the larger head. Good work.
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I always enjoy your videos. “There will be blood” is also my tag line. I’m constantly leaving my DNA on my wood work and raw lumber. If I went thru a day without bleeding a little, I’d probably spring a leak… thank you for sharing.
Thanks for your appreciation. I guess quite a few can relate to the blood thing, it sort of comes with the package when working with edge tools.
I sharpened the axe tonight after som work up in the forest. Glad I didn’t shoot that, speaking of DNA traces in the workshop … I think I’ll start doing my sharpening before I start to work and not after from now on. Not careful enough when tired after wielding the axe …
@@myableways I sharpen afterwards too. Just works better for the next work day. That ax has a beautiful ring when it goes into the wood. I reckon I need to look at them. I’m using a single headed from military surplus. It works great as a hammer!
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Chez nous sur du bois vert, souple, l'émouture n'est surtout pas polie, cela évite à la lame de se coincer, du moins, un peu moins, et c'est notable! Et sur du bien dur et sec, la faut que toute l'émouture soit polie brillant, nikel, là, c'est le top! Superbe swing Monsieur! Bravo à la chaine!
That’s interresting. I have not heard about unpolished grinding to prevent the axe from sticking. I have to try that some day.
@@myableways les Basques, lors des compétitions, y apportent une grande importance. Les 5cm au moins, derrière le fil à bien son importance. Puisque il est constamment en contact avec les lèvres de l entaille dans la pièce de bois à couper. Encore merci pour vos réponses, ça fait bien plaisir.
Couldn’t translate this reply, unfortunatly… if you want to write it again in English, that would be much appreciated.
@@myableways oh yes ok, i am gona try!! Thank's!
@@myableways In our case, on green, soft wood, the grinding is definitely not polished, this prevents the blade from getting stuck, at least a little less, and that's noticeable! And on hard, dry surfaces, all the grinding must be polished to a shiny, nikel finish, that's the best! Superb swing Sir! Bravo to the channel!
"A belt sander... Preferably with a belt" 😂
I’m here all night!
Was just about to comment the same :D
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I saw you as a recommendation on my feed, and I was definitely interested with the axe overview. I'm liking the "Dane Axe" shape of the blade, those always catch my eye compared to more contemporary axe head designs.
Glad you found my channel. I also like the ax type, but as I mention in the video, the handle needs a bit of work … not just fitting properly, but it needs to be thinner.
Your description of the edge with your fingers and how it should be is called "convex", when the cheek is too pronounced and needs to be brought down. Nice video, they're supposed to be great axes. Great job on the birch tree btw, you cut that with very few strokes.
Thanks for your comment. Rinaldi axes are good, but a bit roughly finished.
Another great video! I think the large axe you have there is an Asti pattern. Asti is a city that is known for its sparkling wine called 'Asti Spumante'. Last year, at least in the part of northern Italy where i lived, it was available in many hardware stores. They also had the 700 gram pruning axe referred to as the American Boys axe abroad -Lavagna- within Italy. Where I lived, all of the hardware stores ordered from wholesalers that carried those two gems. Rinaldi was no longer sending sales reps to individual stores that i went to. So even inside of Italy, ordering through Ebay was the easiest way to a Calabria 900 gram and many others. The 900 and 700 have been great for me, and I look forward to trying out the big one you just showed. Keep up the great videos and fun chopping!
Thanks, glad you enjoy my videos. Strange that the dealers have so little knowledge about different patterns, but I guess axes are just a tiny part of their business so they just don’t care that much.
I’ll be making more axe videos soon, probably one where I make a shorter handle for the Calabria. But I have some other stuff in the pipes first.
Me and my fiance have been talking about going to northern Italy, it seems like a nice place.
Lavagna and America are two different axes ifyou look closer the First has a straight Edge america has a mild curve, cheers
That's definitely the normale (or french) pattern, N6 ^^
Ok, so that is its real name after all? I think ”french pattern” is a bit better, though. Says a bit more of its origin. I have to check out french axes a bit more, and I think I’ve seen a few in your videos already, as well as in Ben Scotts videos.
Thank you with axe techniques and sharpening as very educational. Although you may want to use a saw from Canada or Japan on your next video to be more efficient. OOps please know. I would never go into wilderness without an axe. and many other things in Canada.
Nah, I prefer to handle the firewood just with axes, as long as I’m doing smaller trees. For bigger trees I use a chainsaw, like the big spruces in my earlier videos, those that died from pests. If I get a good handsaw it will be for woodworking, at least as I see it now.
Thanks for your appreciation though, and I appreciate that you share your thoughts!
Tuatahi my favorite.
Haven’t tried one. So far I like Rinaldis.
My Calabria handle was also loose when i got it. I don't remember all I did to fix it, but it is now flush with the head on top, and I do remember using Wonder Lock 'Em (a thin cyanoacrylate glue) to stop the wobble. I also did a jute twone wrap at the bottom because it felt like it would slip out of my hand during use. I'll probably put a tradtional curved handle on it with a wedge fit. I really like your mallet. Being one simgle piece it is probably strong like forged metal where the grain flows smootly and there aren't any "stress risers" where it is likely to fail.
I don’t recommend you do a wedge fit, the eye isn’t made for it. Try making a new slip fit handle instead, but a bit better than the one that came with the axe.
I actually got that mallet from a retired woodworking teacher, so it was old when I got it. Although I have several other mallets, I more or less only use this one.
@@myableways I may just try to contour it to a thinner oval cross section and try for better flexibility and less shock transfer. Thanks for the reply. Your interests mirror my own, although my woodworking is more limited to carving and not carpentry.
Good luck whatever you try out. And thanks a lot for your appreciation!
A second rinaldi axe,
Actually an interesting video, "it's a roughly made tool" your words my friend, however it's looks cool, and with some adjustments should be able to do a day work, maybe I'm starting to sound like a parrot,
Although that sticking issue is annoying! And more concerning is the chips knocked out of the edge, but this maybe related to the sticking, would I buy one, might if the price is right, I like the idea of fitting the handle properly yourself (then you know is done right)
When I go to my other home in South Asia, I could easily disassemble and put in my luggage, I find axes there are either utter rubbish or have welded steel handles (made at the local fordge) steel handles are strong, but not nice to use, however the renaldi might be good, and of course I would never have known about them if it weren't for your channel, thanks for sharing
I’m glad I’ve been able to show you something new. I didn’t know about Rinaldi either, until I found Ben Scott on CZcams. Now tgere’s a guy who can chop some wood …
I do suggest you get a Rinaldi if you are interrested in axes. They’re not expensive, and I like them.
I rounded off the cheeks of the axe today after bucking some green birch, the axe stuck like you wouldn’t believe it. After the rounding off it was a bit better. For some reason I didn’t have the same experience with the Calabria, although it too stuck a little bit.
Steel handled on axes are just wrong. The whole point of a wooden handle is the flex, so you don’t injure your joints. But maybe it’s hard to find suitable haldle material in some regions, I guess you’ll have to ask the locals to understand the reason …
And as always, thanks for your appreciation!
@@myableways mmm understanding the Philippine mind is not always straightforward,
But wood is not for ever over there, and it's probably got something to do with budget and getting the most out of tool, and believe me tools have to work hard there! 🤪
Still the renaldi should do a good job if I look after it, and on the bonus side, it will look great in one of my medievil videos haha
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Hello to France, ce sont des formes comme cette Rinaldi, que nous avons dans le sud de la France, elles sont dites "Latine"! La fonderie et taillanderie "Talabot", pour moi la meilleure, ( vous en trouverez encore )! Merci pour cette revue superbe!
Thank you for your appreciation. I’ve been interrested in french axes for some time now, but it’s difficult to source information for one who doesn’t know the language.
@@myableways i understand. Je vais vous envoyer un document de mes archives. Dans la semaine vous l aurez. A très vite alors.
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Una di quelle asce in Italia si chiama modello asti .asti è in Piemonte vicino il sud della Francia
I guess most of them have names referring to the region they come from.
Calabria model is a wood eater! ❤ from Italy!
Yes, I enjoy it. Will like it even more when I make a shorter handle for it.
Did you try to use the holdfast inside the eye of the axe? Also, I have pieces of leather glued to the holding face of the holdfasts, helps gripping.
No, I didn’t try that. Good tip though. I’ve seen leather being used on holdfasts before, maybe I’ll try it sometime.
Excellent review !
What latitude are you at.
I live at 64° North . In Interior Alaska. Our tree species are very similar to yours. Ive been wanting to get a Rinaldi axe and was going to get one but they were out of stock. I was concerned the 1.2 kilos would be too light but yours worked well.
I'm a member of The Axe Cordwood Challenge group on Facebook. Ben Scott is also a member there. Very good group of axemen and axewomen on there.
Are there many choppers in Sweden ?
Again, great video !! Nice axe .
Thanks for your appreciation!
I’m at 59 north. I have been looking a lot at Ben Scott, and one thing I’ve taken away from his videos is that an axe rarely needs to be very heavy. Depends a bit on the user and the purpose of the axe, of course, but I’m so far pretty happy with mine.
I don’t think there are a whole lot of dedicated ”choppers” here in Sweden, the only one I know of that competes is Ferry Svan, the son of one of our most legendary skiers, Gunde Svan. But there are quite a few axe users that spend a lot of time outdoors and on the countryside, and I will have to include myself into that lot.
I rewatched the Normal video again. A very nice video !
You had that chopping very well!
I have never utilizes the loggt weight head and long handle concept so I am Very much looking forward to getting my first Rinaldi with a long handle.
Ok, glad you like it. To me it feels like I’ve come quite a long way since I shot it, although it isn’t really that long ago. I’m very excited to see how I will develop my skills and understanding of different axes and their uses the upcoming years. And some of that knowledge will definitly come from you, as it already has.
Vous gagnez un abonné!
I noticed. Thank you very much!
@@myableways oh yhea, thank's, cool.
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@@myableways i am translate my first comment!
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I know what you mean, I have got many Rinaldi tools and it seems to me they just don't care about making consistently good axes. And it's a shame beacuse they use good steel and their tools are very traditionally made, but at the same time 1 out of 3 is finished badly or just unfinished. But I can tell you will never see a Roncola badly finished from them, and that's because almost every Italian farmer, woodworker or logger has a Roncola and they choose Rinaldi because it's the best. But on axes I must say I buy them from shops, gotta check the handle, how it is attached and so on. Anyway, good content brother 👍👍👍
I suppose they aim for mass production at a low pricerange, and that means cutting corners a bit because of the production speed. I’d get their axes from a shop too, if there were any in Sweden that carried their products. It’s always a lottery when it comes to handles if you buy from a webshop. I have some nice wood for handles in my workshop though, so I can make my own if I need to, or if I want a different handle length. Will probably shoot a video of that sooner or later … anyway, thanks for your response and thoughts, I might get a billhook from them too sometime, they are nice tools. And I’m happy that you enjoyed my video!
dents (or rolls) are quite normal for a properly hardened axe, much better than chipping because you can peen them out. Especially after hitting rocks I'd not be concerned. Seen the same happen with racing axes. Something that helps with stickiness is approaching the work differently, fell the tree and leave some branches on so the log cant spin rather than remove all limbs then start bucking.
Yes, I talked to a blacksmith friend about it just a few days ago and he said the same about axe hardening, so I’m not worried about that anymore.
Your tip to leave branches to avoid rolling is interresting. And coming from you, I feel I can trust that idea to be backed up by a lot of experience.
Thanks for dropping a comment, it’s been really inspiring to watch your videos, discovering Rinaldi axes and learn about edge bevels, just to mention some things I’ve taken with me from that.
@@myableways it was actually owen who had that idea, as even a thick axe can apear sticky if the log is light and easy to roll. Of course super thin axes arent always the best choice. cheers!
Good tip nevertheless, I’ll try it out as soon as I’m able.
It’s been interresting to try these Italian axes, very different from our traditional Swedish models. I have a few Wetterlings and Hults Bruk axes too, but I only use them for splitting. I am however thinking about getting a 1200 g head Ochsenkopf, since you’ve also made me curious about those. Future video posts will tell when I get one and what I think about it.
@@myableways which ochsenkopf model? If itd one of the iltis types id try to get a muller instead as they need less work out of the box
I’ve been looking at the one they call ”universal felling axe”.
@15:10 ...I see your mallet is in a pretty bad shape! Don't know which material is made from, but just in case, you should consider to prefere a mallet made out from apple wood: very steady, strong and durable which doesn't split easily as its grain is soo dense and compact. In my village, in Northern Italy, we actually make out of apple wood, our big mallets (clubs) used for splitting logs (hammering on axes and wedges all over the cracks). The ideal is to use the whole apple raw log diameter, including its bark, according to your size needs and the branches to manufacture the small mallets. Give it a try.
It’s a Birch mallet. I’m pretty sure it’s from Finland, since I bought it from a retired woodshop teacher together with some Finnish hewing axes. He was from Finland himself, and had been involved in house building with those axes over there when he was younger.
The traditional wood for axe handles in Finland is Birch, since all the forests are pretty much Pine and Spruce apart from that. So Birch is the best wood for axe handles there. I’m pretty sure they made mallets from the same type of trees. It’s actually holding up very good, I’ve been using it as my favourite mallet since I bought it, and that must be around 10 years ago now. I will, however, try to remember your recommendation to use Apple for mallets if I’ll make a new one.
Very Norse vibes I'm getting from it.
Yeah, it’s sort of similar to a medieval or viking axe. But hung in a totally different way, of course.
@@myableways think a linseed & beeswax blend is a good handle protection?
Does your arm say fart?
No more than your mouth does.
@@myableways lol!
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People will take you more seriously if you get a hair cut.
If you think my hair is problematic, then maybe you’re just on the wrong channel. Try watching something else instead of making rude remarks.
I judge by personality and competence, and he gets a win from me.
Thanks!