TSI & FSI Valve cover gasket re-seal - A3/GTI
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- čas přidán 3. 10. 2020
- Today we take on a slightly more in-depth repair which involves repairing my sealant style cam cover gasket! There hasn't been an in-depth tutorial on how to do this yet so hopefully people get good use out of this one!
Needed Information for this repair:
Vacuum Pump Gasket: bit.ly/3U6jjr9
Genuine VW valve cover sealant: bit.ly/3FRLsOm
Cam Cover Bolts: bit.ly/3hbOJOg
Cam Cover Torque Pattern: f01.justanswer.com/kyleskraut...
Cam Cover Torque Spec: 8nm + 90 Degree Turn
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Dude, that is something I have never heard of.. I''ve been in the Audi / VW forums for a long ass time.. However , glad you got her up & running..
Thank you for making this video! Helps a ton and saves me money not having a shop do the repair
I've watched a few of these videos and yours is one of the best. Thanks for posting and being so thorough with the discussion/comments. Super helpful.
Crazy to think that the valve cover gasket also serves as the main caps for the camshaft!!! Gotta love the good old German engineering!!!
This is exactly what I was looking for. Thank you for putting this video together 🙏
This is exactly the type of help I needed. This video is a literal blessing
Need to do this soon as well. Just weeping at the moment but in time will get worse. Great work and also saved you a couple grand 👍😁
Hopefully I can help to save others a couple grand as well, glad you enjoyed the video!
Exact engine as mine right down to the cts mods. This was quite literally the perfect tutorial for me. Thank you!!
Didnt wanna foot the $900 bill for this to the vw dealer so watched this video and had a semi easy time appreciate this vid ( ive never worked on my car before lol
A lot of people think that working on cars is super hard, I just tell people it’s like Lego for older people but with tools haha, thanks for checking out the video!
@@ThatGuyTyy fuck yeah
@ThatGuyTy as long as you have the necessary tools required,specs,and what to replace on reinstall... you can pretty much do it yourself!!
hows it holding up?
this job at VW costs 4300 bucks right now
Here goes my second time on a different tsi gti. Good refresher.
Very clean engine bay! Thanks for the video, I need to reseal my GTI soon and after watching you video I have a little more confidence in myself!
Happy to help! Thanks for checking out the channel, hopefully more helpful videos will be on the way soon :)
@@ThatGuyTyy Hey dude back agian! 10:09 is there any type of gasket that goes around the valve cover before you lay the sealant?
Nope! Just the sealant, only real gasket goes on the timing cover
been needing to do this, glad to see someone with a tutorial. did a 4motion swap on my gti, think i can handle this too lol
Dam that’s fire
I have a 2013 Tiguan with the same engine and issue. I watch this video over and over, till I'm ready for attempting surgery.
hows that going? im about to do the same to my 2011 cc
I have successfully resealed the valve cover, replaced timing cover gaskets and inner o-ring, replaced vac pump gasket and all of it’s associated o-rings. And no oil leaks. The cover ,the timing cover and the vac pump were all leaking before. As of now currently no leaks. Took a couple of weeks after coming home from work I’d work on it. Luckily I had another car to drive.
Good stuff bro! Hopefully it lasts!
I have an 09 CC with a TSI motor as well, and I just looked underneath my motor today and saw it's dripping in multiple places and I can smell the oil burning where I know it's at least coming down from behind the motor and I'm hoping to God that it's not a turbo leak or anything like that. And then upon further inspection I look behind towards the cam cover towards the back and there's a bunch of residue back there and I'm thinking that it's now leaking and doing the same exact thing that yours was.
My question is was your leak coming on the ground was it spread out looking like it was coming from multiple spots when it hit the ground or was it just one little puddle? Because mine on the ground looks like it's running down towards the back of the motor from what I can see without getting under the car and it's leaving a drip spot in multiple places as the oil is running down taking the path of least resistance to the ground and that's leaving a drip pattern that spread out. I'm going to run some UV dye in my motor and drive it do an errand or two and then come back with the black light and see if the act of leak is coming out of that cam cover cuz I hope to God that that is the problem that I have because that would be the best possible link to have and nothing else at this point.
@@tedg3721 Mine was it just a single oil spot on the driveway. I’m just guessing about your situation may be needing a rear main seal.
Thanks, dude! I did that following your video. The only issue I had was that several valve cover bolts were over-torqued and the heads stripped when I tried to remove them. I had to use a screw extractor. Another thing for those who gonna attempt this to plan enough time to shear away that old gasket material, at least two hours.
Good info on this one! I wonder if yours has been done before as the torque spec shouldn’t be too tight, but true about the scrapping! Lots of gasket removal needed
@@ThatGuyTyy Any recommendations on tools/materials for the cleaning process? The VW manual recommends using a rotating plastic brush
Great video it was super helpful with the sealant tip. 20 bucks from the parts store instead of the 90 from Germany.
Thank you so much bro ❤️
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Well done
How’s the cts catch can set up working? Haven’t put mine on yet, wondering if it’s really worth it
I’m in the middle of doing mine! So far so good. Easy process
Do u have to use a special tool to hold the cams ?
@@Warkilla007 no, after that use the car for about 4 months and then i sold it to a friend he still using it without any problem
@@whoiamx2 so u didn’t have to readjust timing ?
@@Warkilla007 no
@@whoiamx2 I’m trying to do it myself u think u can walk me thru it ?
Yo did you seal around the bolt holes? Highly recommended
is the same process for the S3 8v?
During the gasket leak, was your exhaust tapping or popping quickly and shaking a little
Damm i did a oil change a week ago jajaja check my oil , nothing gone this video is very helful is auto and manual the same ???
Friend of mine has the same problem for the 1.8 tsi but is it a liquid gasket or are there solid gaskets for these engines?
5:08 how did you remove that line? I am about to attempt this job and trying to figure it out.
Hi, just found your video. I just picked up a 2018 VW Golf Alltrack with only 17,123 miles from Carmax Interior and and paint are in excellent condition, but after driving it for a day, I notice a slight smell antifreeze when lift the hood and looking closer at the engine I can see on left side front valve cover which after watching your video, I guess it must of been leaking and someone recently replace it. At that low mileage, wonder if I need to rethink keeping this car. Any input would be appreciated. Thanks
Was it easy to remove the valve cover?
wow thanks!!!!
Good vid
Hello friend, I would like to do this job but I am afraid that the camshaft will move by accident, I understand that they are completely loose, right? How could you prevent your position from moving? Do you think it is necessary to change the bolt? I understand that this must be done since these screws are made of a different alloy than steel and can suffer alterations in the tightening
Hey, Great video! Question: Do you have to decompress the cam chain tensioner and lock it, so there isn't much tension on the cams or does the cam bridge hold it in place enough to where it won't damage the cam bridge? I'm about to do this right now, just curious if I should take off the lower timing cover and decompress the tensioner. It seems like the bridge should be more than enough to hold the cams in place though. Thanks for the help again, Cheers!
I’m getting ready to do this job as well, and from all the forums, videos, comments I’ve seen it looks like as long as your careful the cams aren’t going to jump just go up and down a little
What engine have u got? Your videos are really helpful so far, waiting on my stock Rev G DV to arrive and then will be fitting that. Already got ram air induction kit. But do like your filter, looks better.
3:29 He mentioned he had the 2.0T TFSI CCTA. It's the Gen 2 Audi / MK6 VW 2.0T
So far it's been a solid Intake set up, I haven't had any issues with it so it really comes down to design as an upgraded intake has been proven not to really do much in terms of performance!
Nice video! Reading through the comments, it looks like you initially used non-VW sealant, still had a minor leak, then took everything apart again and used the expensive VW sealant. Is that correct?
Doesn't the engine need to be set at TDC before removing the cam cover? Otherwise some of the cam lobes could be significantly engaged which would create a reaction force on the camshafts. They don't normally like that or always behave when then retightening everything back down.
Why take off the high pressure pump but noticed you put it back on?
3:39 The other engine code for this engine is CBFA. They are almost identical but the CBFA has Secondary Air for emission standards. There are a couple of other minor differences between the two. I have the CBFA. I think California was the only state in the US that required that extra emission qualifier.
Joshua M ah ok, I’m from the UK.🇬🇧 I have the 1.8tfsi petrol EA888 / CDAA doing a few upgrades slowly but surly. But your videos are very useful as there is not much difference when it comes to where the parts are and how to change them. 👍🏼
@@ashleyhardy6799 Oh no, not to be confused--I'm just a viewer like you. I'm not the video creator.
He has some great videos though =)
Joshua M oh ha ha my bad.
Ashley Hardy No, no worries-just wanted to make sure the credit goes to the right person 😁
Doing this tomorrow on my S3 8p
howd it go?
what did you do to clean the gasket mating surfaces where you applied the sealant?
Just a razor blade and some brake clean
Do you need to lock the timing before taking the valve cover and timing chain cover off?
Not entirely necessary, but I would recommend it if you have the tools and confident that you don’t move the cams or touch the chain
I have had elevated oil temperatures (based on MFD readings) on my mk6 GTI another 10-15 degrees Celsius more than when I first bought the car. I also did a mountain run and the engine bay was smoking and oil temp at 119 degrees Celsius. Do you think this is also my problem? Thanks!
I would try changing the oil, and filter. Also the pcv valve could be going causing added oil temp? I’m not sure but it doesn’t sound like a gasket issue. You would be leaking rather than running hot.
Torgue to yield bolts need to be replaced. Most online outlets have the bolts and sealer for under 40$.. Well done 😊
Great Video! Is there a reason you used a gasket maker and not the original OEM gasket?
For the TSI they don’t use a one piece gasket, the factory gasket is also a liquid style anaerobic gasket! The reason I didn’t use the OEM gasket sealant was due to the cost of the gasket and many forum users having better success with aftermarket sealants for longevity! Hope this gives some insights, thanks for checking out the video!
@@ThatGuyTyy perfect. Can you provide more information around your PVC delete, manufacturer and part number? Link a video if you have one about it.
@@jonathandeily3909 czcams.com/video/g5n_PnijUaY/video.html&ab_channel=ThatGuyTy !
Tienes el número de parte de la junta?
Which tools are needed for this repair ?
I have a 2009 audi A3 2.0t do I need to take the fuel pump to?
Thank you.
You only have to remove the high pressure fuel pump
So you did this without locking the timing using that special tool you mentioned? How?
As long as the cam gear doesn’t move on the chain it’s not entirely necessary, I just didn’t want to show how to do it without giving the proper information on the correct procedure
Are the cam cover bolts supposed to be replaced with new ones?
Yes! New bolts are required as these are stretch components
Good guy💯💯💯💯🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
What do you do about the cams popping up because of the tension from the chain
Yo I ran into the same issue
Torque?
So it’s a little late as you posted over two years ago; but did you also change timing cover gasket?
I did not!
I have 2015 passat 1.8 tsi. Is this the same steps? My passat leaking same place and smoke bad asf.
It should be if it’s a 1st gen Ea888 or 2nd, I am not sure about 3rd
Would this apply to a longitudinal TFSI?
Yes
I got a vw cc 2.0t 2009 do I need to watch this
Yes it’s the same engine
Why didn't you record applying the sealant? Why? It's okay.
So there is no gasket. The sealer is the permatex/silicone...?
What roof racks do you have? And does your car have a sun roof?
factory audi rack and yes! I have the sunroof and moon roof!
@@ThatGuyTyy what is that model number on that. I’ve been looking for one but haven’t had good luck on tht. Someone sold me one that I had to put rails on my car and I was not about to do that lol. Very appreciated and keep up those vids
Anyone have a list of tool to do this job? would help a lot
I will make one and put it in the description, no specialty tools needed, should be good to go with everything you have in a regular “all in one” tool kit
Did I miss the part where you put the new gasket sealer on??
Yes I didn't film doing it with the new gasket sealer, however the exact same process
So I did all of this…. And I thought I did it right … but I have all multiple misfires . And I’m all cylinders … and also the code p0506… what did I do wrong
How do you do the priming procedure
I’m not sure what you mean by this, like prepping the surface for the gasket or starting the car?
Is this the same as a 09 Volkswagen passat? I need to replace the Valve cover gasket and the only thing I got was the Timing belt cover gasket and a Tube of selant basically Gasket maker. So the Valve cover doesn't get a Actual Gasket it gets Gasket maker sealant?
It should be the same, just confirm the part number on the valve cover
@@ThatGuyTyy I wasn't talking about the parts. But I just figured out I can't believe a Passat doesn't have a actual Valve cover gasket only uses Sealant which I used Hondabond for it..I don't usually work on other vehicles besides Honda but I was doing a favor for one of my ladies
you may not see this, but i’m trying to find the valve cover bolts
How did you get the aluminum valve cover off? Mine is stuck on the orange plastic part above the timing chain
Lots of patience and kind of just rocking back and forth, the sealant should be pretty free once it doesn’t have bolt pressure on it!
@@ThatGuyTyy thank you very much bud
Happy to help! Goodluck!!
im still not sure why you would need to possibly re time the chain.. if anyone could tell me worst case scenario while doing it this way let me know & what to avoid.
Cam could possibly skip a tooth or two and since its an interference engine the valves can come into contact with the pistons which can wreck an engine.
How did you preserve your timing after removal of the cam bridge? Did I miss something?
I don’t think he took the cam bridge off
The "valve cover" IS the cam bridge...
how long did this take start to finish about?
About 6-7 hours!
Does anyone know the part # for the gasket?
VW specified valve cover ("cylinder head cover") gasket sealant is :
D 154 103 A1
So did it stay sealed? I used permatex on mine but not the same "flavor" leaked bad. Resealed it with grey rtv and leaks but not as bad.
And what is the priming procedure?
Mine has held up fairly well, a small piece flaked off a couple of weeks ago but never cause any leaks. I since have bought the super expensive VW gasket material designed for this (the green stuff) and am gonna give it a try when I have a day or two just to see if it's really any better.
How much did that run?
The tube itself was like 150$ Canadian...
@@ThatGuyTyy hey that's super weird, I bought mine at an Audi dealership in Montreal and I only pay 40$. I was really surprised when he told me the price so I ask him if it was the same as before and they said it was a revised part so they now sell a cheaper sealant
Which sealant did you use?
Ended up using oem
you use gasket maker high temp right ? tthe red stuff
i need to do mine soon passat cc 2009 2.0 tsi
The sealant is a permatex anaerobic sealant, so it is specifically designed to set during a lack of oxygen condition, I'm not sure what the temp rating the sealant is, but it is rated for almost any gasket surface (Other than a head gasket obviously) so there should be no trouble!
@@ThatGuyTyy thanks my friend really apreciate
No worries, happy to help!
@@ThatGuyTyyafter the job you where talkking , before starting the engine the priming procedure can i know more about , before starting the engine double check or must do
when you have time im not doing it now , during the winter i store my car for thewinter here quebec canada, Passat cc 2009 2.0 tsi leak exactly like you but in front of the cover at one point i was suspect the cam positioning sensor for a leak
@JDM_Pilot 06 Gotta love volkswagens lol. Cam Position censor failed I guess, did you replace it? Did you check the wiring to the sensor? Oil will actually follow hot wires, had to replace the entire interior wire harness on a G Wagon because a transmission connector seal failed. I'm still baffled to this day about it.
Is this a 1.8tfsi or a 2.0tfsi ?
2.0t
How many tubes of that anaerobic sealant did you need?
I only ended up using maybe half of 1 tube, I bought 2 just in case but you don’t need to cake it on, just a thin layer and you’re good to go!
what gasket did you use???
Right
What is the purpose of the pcv valve delete? I thought pcv was a good thing??? It keeps excess pressure from building up in your crankcase and blowing seals and gaskets out??? Please educate me as I must be wrong on what I have learned over the last 40 something years of life. Lol. It may be something to do with turbo cars maybe??? I haven't had much experience at all with turbo cars!!! Thanks in advance. Great video by the way!!!
I actually just covered this in my most recent video, some bigger turbo cars need to have pcv deleted to allow as much pressure in the crank out as possible, most pcv deletes aren’t “deletes” per say in terms of keeping pressure in, but by passing pcv all together to let as much pressure out as possible
you skipped the most important part preppin the sealant...???
Did I miss the part where you had to lock the engine or just remove cover and you don’t loose timing?
My point also...i thought that was the whole point of this video and he just right out skipped the most important part...just like every video on CZcams...these guys truly suck...will make you blow your whole engine!!!!
@@coryjackson6034 you dont need to lock the cams lol
@eliashoolsema2862 my rear cam shaft came up tilted because of the tension from the chain hopefully when it goes back together it doesn't go boom
@@eliashoolsema2862is it because the cam bridge holds them in place?
how it is since your re sealed it with the sealant?
It was super awesome, no issues after using the VW/Audi sealant, new owner hasn’t reported any issues either!
@@ThatGuyTyy wait I thought you used the Permatex red sealant no? 1/4-1/3 of the price one?
Yoo, bout to do this should I just pay $80 for the vw sealant then?
that a VVT actuator
To do this did it have to be in timing
Ideally setting it to TDC would be best
It's a shame you didn't show the tear down process in more detail. You missed a lot of details for someone wanting to do the same job
I agree but gotta be thankful for the fact you got any video. :)
Did u have to readjust timing?
No!
@@ThatGuyTyy how long do have to wait till u can drive the car ?
good question
I waited about 24 hours before driving, it comes down to the cure time of the gasket
VW specified valve cover ("cylinder head cover") gasket sealant is :
D 154 103 A1
8:58
Should off showed how to put sealant on, does not go on every part
You should have taken the upper timing cover off first and put the can locks in.
Oh, and the thing you didn't know what it was under the cam cover was the intake can timing adjustor. Gen 1 ccta only had variable intake timing.
made it look too easy!
Bro where’s the leak ?🤣
id gap ur audi in my ram down fraser
That pedal commander give you extra horsepower?
Never heard someone talk so much I just want to know how to replace it 🤦🏽♂️
That’s what happens in the video if you watch it 😂
You forgot to mention the way the cams should align before installing cylinder head cover. And also failed to mention the importance of the thickness of the anaerobic sealant in millimeters of thickness. By the weird sensor looking thingy. And everywhere else. Folks this is an incomplete tutorial by a DIYer. Please do not follow this tutorial as it's missing numerous key processes to the proper procedure. Your VW/Audi should be serviced by a professional.