Does Lilith CONTROL Alastor!? | Hazbin Hotel Episode 5 Breakdown
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Okay the 5th episode of Hazbin Hotel season 1 MIGHT be my favorite so far, and REALLY helps expand on some of the ideas and theories I threw out in my last Hazbin video. PLUS it gives us our first real thorough look at Charlie’s dad, Lucifer himself. There’s SO much to unpack in the last two episodes, so I’m gonna do a deep dive into episode 5, Lucifer, Alastor and Lillith in this video and deep dive into episode 6’s exploration of heaven tomorrow or the next day. Let’s do it!
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My personal theory is that Lilith owns Alastor's soul. It just makes sense, they’ve both been missing for 7 years, Alastor comes back and *IMMEDIATELY* goes to the hotel and offer help to Charlie, and it would explain his immense hatred of Lucifer. Why wouldn't you hate the husband of the woman who owns your soul?
In my mind, being under Lilith would honestly explain how he came out of nowhere as this unstoppable force. It's borrowed power. At least initially.
That theory could be true it may be more deeper than that what if Lilith order Alastor to help Charlie because she wants to destroy heaven and the angels. In order for that to happen they need Charlie to release her full demon powers
Well they divorced so i dont know why he would hate lulu so much ,except if he actually likes lilith as a person
Did you comment this on another video? I swear I read this exact tale in another comment section somewhere
@@Steve_SBU Yes, it's just that sometimes I get tired of writing new comments and I copy my own previous comments.
Whoever is Alastor's master - by the way he reacted to Husk's comment makes it obvious that he hates being under someone and he would do anything to get on top.
Or that he hates whatever the nature of his "leash" is to be considered a "leash".
Mmm yeah
just a theory since daddy issues deem to be a major theme of the show and Charlies parents seem to be separated, he's Lilith's significant other (perhaps their married or she owns his soul and hes more of a consort idk) and well have some emotional beats about his affection for her but her disgust of his cruelty to others.
And what's a great way to get out from under the mother's claws, then to get the daughter under yours.
Considering that Alastor can trap overlords voices i think he wants Liliths voice trapped in his radio as a ultimate source of power to harness heaven and hell
Did they say that, I thought he's just a sadist who put the screams on the radio cause he loves the radio as a showman and their pain.
See I think he already has it, Lilith hasn't answered Charlies calls, perhaps because she CANT respond
@@djeverest4078then she’d text probably
I like this thought! Sinners can’t permanently kill other sinners and yet “the overlords went missing”, he is defiantly doing something.
@@reykhan2453 Well in the episode he tells husk he will "rip his soul apart and broadcast the screams for every disrespectful soul to hear" This could be hyperbole but yea I think he definitely does something that permanently incapacitates demons. Holy weapons seem to be the only actual way to kill them so he has to have them trapped in some way because the overlords he took out aren't just depowered and hanging around except for some like Husk which he probably knew he could keep on a leash with husk's addictions.
There's an understated moment that I really like about this episode and the next. Both Husk and Angel are shown stepping up to the demons who have contracted them, showing that their moment of bonding over their situations in episode 4 wasn't for nothing, the both of them being braver in standing up to their abusers. I also find it interesting how both of them react when their abusers re-establish their power, wherein Husk pretty quickly folds when Alastor reminds him whose in charge, whereas Angel still stands proud on behalf of Nifty after Valentino promised to make him pay when he comes in to work.
Hazbin Hotel has become one of those shows where every aspect of it has me completely drawn in, between the characters and their relationships, the lore and world building, the music, etc. I definitely wanna touch upon it at some point in the future.
Well, to be fair, Alastor both has a much tighter leash on Husker when it comes to his freedoms, and the power to *actually* tear his soul to shreds and follow through on his threats.
Valentino could kill Angel, yeah, but Angel is also his top earner. He would be shooting himself in the foot. And probably the only reason Alistor didn't straight up destroy Husker there was because he still had some need for him, even if it was just to placate Charlie.
I'm thinking Lilith is the source of Alastor's power. That's how he rose so quickly after being sent to Hell. Perhaps one of the conditions was either servitude- or simply to protect her daughter. Thus, the leash.
His ill intent there may be to use Charlie as leverage for freedom somehow. Thus the deal. But since she said no, he couldn't leash her. So he keeps himself close and useful. And dear to her.
HE rose to power decades ago. They only went missing 7 years ago. Only now did Alastor go seek out Charlie. So Lilith didn't own his soul when he arrived in Hell. That doesn't mean she wasn't the source of his power though. I have a theory that lines up with yours, with just some expansion=
set up= 1. From Helluva Boss we know humans can/will worship/deal with demons while still alive. The mom of that Murder Family, Martha, was starting to change while she still alive (after all, after 2 seasons, we've not seen any other human with sharp teeth or red eyes...let's not forget Martha's earings also changed).
2. Lilith went to Hell without dying yet is a demon. We know she is NOT a Sinner demon since they can't reproduce.
my theory=
When he was alive, Alastor practiced Voodoo (popular media version of it being dark magic, not the actual religion) maybe had Lilith as a patron to get power. He may have started to change while alive, like Martha, but like Martha, he was killed so became a Sinner demon. But due to his magic, he was more powerful than normal Sinners.
For some reason not yet revealed, He got on the wrong end of Lilith 7 years ago. She won and now owns his soul.
Some others theorize Lilith has seen a build up of the Exterminators and has been working on something behind the scenes and she sent Alastor to Charlie to prepare for a confrontation with the Exterminators.
@@Katzztarim assuming alastor almost died by fighting with Vox and made a deal with Lilith to be alive/recover it would make sense since
Vox almost won he said
@@nolife097 I think vox was the one that lost that fight because after Val says that Vox says “fuck you” that doesn’t sound like something you would say if you almost won
@@Katzztar Could be she gave power to him and allowed him to rise up, then them disappearing together 7 years ago was her initial cash in on her deal.
But I do like you theory as well! I suppose we'll have to wait and see xD
@@asmonday1790Valentino says to Vox in stayed gone “you still pissed he almost beat you that time?” Vox managed to beat Alastor in a fight they had some years ago, could potentially have been 7 years ago
Alastor is described by Viz as a “mama’s boy”, Lilith was meant to be the mother of humanity, but she is called the mother of demons. His infatuation with her as “the Mother” would make complete sense.
Yeah, that only reinforces the fan comic backstory of Alastor in my mind...
@@Lazyspaceout yeah, that’s what I said
@@LazyspaceoutThey never said they were the same. So either cough up a fuckin' point, or reread.
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No need to be rude
@@Lazyspaceout There is no need for anything, but anything happens nonetheless.
It was so awesome to see Lucifer finally make his debut in the show! And even though he thinks that Charlie's mission is impossible, At least he supports and loves his daughter!
yeah he's great even without weird al's voice
I wonder if Alastor is going to try and make a deal with Charlie in exchange to get his own soul back from Lilith
It could be reason why he wanted deal from Vaggie
A thing to notice is that when Alastor looks at the Morningstar's family painting, he's not looking Lilith up and down. He first looks at Charlie, shifts to Lilith and refocuses on Charlie squinting, implying some sort of goal that can only be achieved by approaching Lilith's daughter.
I love the Dad off between Alastor and Lucifer for Charlie’s approval ! Even though we all know Lucifer could fold Alastor like laundry if he really wanted too.
Hear me out! How does a dime-a-dozen human sinner like Alastor gain so much power in such a short time where it becomes notable to the residents of Pentagram City? I would think that it could be done, but not without help. I think very early in his time in hell, Alastor could have sold his soul to Lilith in exchange for power. He gets the strength to climb the ranks in Pentagram City and Lilith gets to control one of the most powerful sinners in hell. But that's just a theory, a game theory (rip matpat, he's not dead just retired or something)
Hear me out, he was a cannibal serial killer while alive, maybe he sold his soul then.
Yeah that actually makes sense
There is a theory that an only power Alastor has is using a Voodoo magic and control radio. All his power is actually Voodoo's abilities, like portals, tentacles of monsters, spawning minions, controlling shadows etc. So he could have spawned in the hell, he used Voodoo magic and got in a deal with Loas, voodoo gods, to become their represent in hell and make them rule over it.
So he got in a conflict with Lilith and they agreed to attack Heaven together.
I agree especially bc one of his main powers is his voice, just like liliths. no one mentions how vox can trick people with his voice either. voice is a very main thing in this series
I definitely think Lilith is using alistair to support the hotel. Why? If they both went missing for 7 years and lillith beat alistair in that fight then she could gave spared him in return for gis soul. I also think she's using the hotel to distract heaven and raise havoc in the clouds so she can prepare for the ultimate goal, the overthrow heaven
Yeah… the thought occurred to me. Maybe in this universe there still is a devil with ambitions for power over the world, we’ve just been too busy looking at how different the usual culprit is that we’ve been completely ignoring that this version of him might have been a pawn…
I noticed that Vestial mentioned hearing that Alister was killed by an angel 7 years ago. I'm thinking that maybe Lilith saved him and had him regenerate after 7 years, in order to help Charlie. Alternatively, she may have made a deal with him while he was dying and saved him, and now he's under her control.
*Zestial
As alastor is aroace it really shows that you can be devoted to someone without it beign linked to romántic attarction. Great video!
Viv only confirmed him as ace. So him being aro might not be true. Tbh id be disappointed if he's not actually aromantic in the show. Then it would be RIP to the few aroace rep I thought was in this show 😭
Lilith is probably going to be the 'save the best for last' character that would appear in hazbin hotel
Something i dont see mentioned enough is lucifers design, i actually appreciate that he heavily subverts what the normal ideas of lucifers appearance to be, obviously it makes a lot of sense as we know what charlie looks like and his design is very reminiscent of her, but him being shorter, bright, positive colours, and with a mostly happy demeanour, but also occasionally showing his immense strength so we dont forget. He is in charge. Gteat work vivi, the first four episodes were good, but these last two released really sold me on the shows potential
I just can’t get over how fast this is going. I know they only have 8 episodes to tell so much and it’s driving me nuts. I miss the 22 episode days. I wish we got to see all the months we skipped.
This series has been good. But honestly i think they needed more space and episodes to better stablish the pacing and problems
It really sucks that corporations don't allow artists room to breathe, because this series deserves it
I agree. I dont blame Viv or the team cuz they can't control that part. It's gotta be hard to cram all this info and lore and music into 8 episodes. Idk if the 2nd season will have more.
@@qualityconcepts5762mmm yeah that’s partly why I was a bit confused by the 8 episodes part
absolutely!! the show feels very rushed and i don't blame the team. I doubt they had any control over how many episodes they got
Yeah it should have been 16 episodes.
honestly I'm so glad you mentioned that alastor is aroace. it's so often looked over when talking about theories/shipping that it's just nice to have it mentioned that if the lilith has alastor on a leash theory was real there would be no romantic connection to it
I personally have a theory regarding Lilith’s absence and what her possible goal might be. In the opening narration of “Overture”, Charlie describes her parents as rebellious dreamers and states that after they were cast down into Hell, Lucifer lost his will to dream while Lilith thrived and went on to empower Hell and its denizens. We also know that Lucifer has seemingly decided to occupy his time and energy on frivolous projects and hobbies, such as his theme park Lu Lu World from Helluva Boss’s “Loo Loo Land” and his rubber duck collection in “Dad Beat Dad”. Seeing him fall into this rut of depression was what probably led to her splitting from him, as Lucifer was no longer the dreamer she fell in love with.
And during the seven-year absence she somehow managed to get Alastor indebted to her. And in exchange for his freedom, he needs to help her with her master plan of not only rallying all of Hell to rise up against Heaven, but also having said uprising be led by her alongside her family as a united front. She plans to do this by way of getting Charlie to truly see and understand just how unjust and unfair Heaven’s system is and helping Lucifer get his drive back, thus getting the rest of her family on her level. Because (if we are to believe what Charlie has said about her mom) Lilith is already a great queen, but now she needs her husband Lucifer to be the king that Hell needs, and her daughter Charlie to be the future leader it deserves.
if alastor is working for lilith that might be interesting itd explain why this overpowered nightmare wendigo is hanging around and helping charlie other than simply being bored.
It all fits.
Now the question arises, What is Lilith Endgame
Kill heaven?
Maybe in this universe we were looking at the wrong parent when it came to the biblical devil’s ambitions…
@theheroneededwillette6964 interesting thought, I thought hazbin was taking some inspiration from you know, the Bible and Religion and creating its own universe with diferent rules etc
That would be a very clever twist
It could be to get full control over ALL realms living and dead. Maybe even recruiting Charlie to help, in media the kids *are* often stronger then the parents after all...
I've been workshopping a theory that Alastor and Lilith's connection goes back further than the 7yr gap. If he made a deal with her soon after he manifested in Hell, it could explain his unprecedented amount of power and how he was able to topple so many previous overlords. Not sure what Lillith would get out of the deal but like I said, just something I'm workshopping.
I do believe that Lilith owns Alister’s soul. There is a lot of symbolism of him being a cannibal. Eating that Deer. Him having Deer Horns. Him talking about devouring people. Then we saw him straight up eat demons. Wendigo also eat people and have deer horns while also gaining the power of the people that eat. So I think Alister does the same. He kills and eats people and gains their strength. My theory is Lilith wants to use Alister like a nuke. Have him eat and devour Winners (not Angels, but the people that go to Heaven) and thus you have something with both power from Sinners and Winners. He has always said that he doesnt believe Sinners can be redeemed. That isnt the same as not thinking it will not work.
Wendigo also copy voices and Alastor steals voices.
2:53 I like how they destroyed that „Charlie x Alastor“ ship (shame to anyone who ships them) by saying he’s like a dad to her
I think it's a trash ship, but I don't think that'll stop people 😭😭
Technically, it's been destroyed way before that when it was confirmed Alastor is AroAce.
Though Vivzi did give shippers a pass for shipping characters outside their canon orientation. And considering people ship Angel with VAL, I'm pretty sure the ship's still sailing.
@fallon-1542 dude it was destroyed when Alastor was confirmed Aroace💀
i like how you think that matters. ohh its destroyed. oooh you hear that? the shippers will just have to stop shipping them now. no fanfic, no fan art, no couples costumes. darn.
Jokes on you I have massive daddy kink , more for me lol
I really want to know what Lilith's endgame truly is. This all seems counterintuitive
I usually assumed that lillth uses her voice and his radio alastor power would be terrifying why kill someone who can amplified your power
The pilot and the lilths story would naturally make sense
Just the roles are reversed
What if the leash holder is Adam? Adam and Alistor echoed the same sentiment about sinners. As Alistor said in the pilot how the life humans had before was their only chance. Adam's song even says, too "had the chance to behave better". They have almost word for word the same philosophy about the human souls.
If Alastor wasn't aro ace I'd assume he's secretly dating Lilith, mostly because that'd make his beef with Lucifer so much funnier
That would actually be a cool AU to see, even if we'll never see it in cannon for blatant reasons
Man, I really wish for this show to get s2. And s 3 and 4. That is if when s2 happens, it will also have only 8 episodes
Season 2 is already confirmed!
I looked online last night and season 2 is underway, I do believe.
LET'S GO
@@Johnny2CellosIt's good to know. But then how much is left to be uncover in the story, seance even with s2, they have to rush it.
1:00 Oh hey! My shout out! Happy to support! No flashy graphic though? (I'm kidding, it's completely fine 😂)
This is a great breakdown and I completely agree about this season desperately needing more episodes. Episode 4 (and the b-plot of episode 3, kind of) were the only episodes that actually felt like it was actually about the residents of the hotel improving as people. So it's hard to fully believe Charlie telling her father that this hotel will work since I feel like we don't get to see it enough. As interesting as the side-plots about the overlords are, I think focusing on the residents of the hotel more would fix a lot of my problems. A lot of these arcs feel fast-tracked which is a shame since I do like most of the other parts of the story's execution!
AH SHIT, I work with multiple editors and totally forgot to give them the heads up that I needed this added here. I'll give ya another with the proper graphic!
Really appreciate the support
@@Johnny2Cellos Haha you don't need to give another shout out, I was just joking. Happy to support even without a shout-out!
I never noticed the detail of alastor viewing lilith in the pilot, great video
In episode 3, Zestial mentions rumors about Alastor "falling into holy arms." If he was planning to topple Lilith, he might be chained to someone in heaven. Just a theory.
I just had an idea! If the show said that Alastor rose to power by killing overlords + stuff and is trying to have a stronger paternal bond with Charlie than Lucifer, what if his plan is to replace Lucifer by killing him? So then he can become powerful enough to take down Lilith and get his soul back?!? That's my theory!!
Killing the king of hell would take *some fire power* but he dose still have that deal with Charlie, he could make her give him her power, even just for a while, to kill Lucifer
Yeah Alastor definitely purposely said that dad stuff to annoy Lucifer 😂
My theory is since demon can’t die (except angel weapon) Alastor instead of kill others he absorb them 7 years ago he absorbed Lilith and spent that time regaining control but not full control
That would throw Hell into disarray, as Lilith is also a source of power for most of Demonkind. It's an interesting theory, but because of how Lilith fits into the Hell Heirarchy, idk if it's possible.
@@Yamatonix11 i know the show said she empowered demons but that could be more in the term of boosting morale similar to what Charlie is trying to do
What so he's just Majin Buu now?
Keep in mind that Alastor was a serial killer in life. Him going after overlords might be part of that; serial killers tend to have a specific type of victim they like to go after. Alastor might be after Lilith because killing overlords just doesn't scratch that itch for him anymore.
Or maybe he isn't after Lilith, but he's after angels. Specifically powerful angels like Adam or Sera. Maybe he was gone for seven years because he was working with Lilith to figure out how to kill angels
My guess is that Alastor sold his soul to Lilith. The leash comment is the thing that kinda makes me think so, because so far leashes have been used in the show so far for one thing, representing contracts involving souls, examples being angel dust’s chain leash to Valentino, and in the very same episode Alastor’s leash is mentioned, Husk’s chain leash to the aforementioned Radio Demon.
Now for me the question is just about under what circumstances did Alastor sell his soul to Lilith, and when. The first guess is of course during the seven year absence, but another theory I have is that he sold his soul for power when he first met Lilith, which would explain how he became instantly powerful upon manifesting in hell.
My theory currently running is that Lillith IS Alestor. My reasoning is more in the parcel that Alestor seems to be an almost carbon copy of Lucifer in style, astetic, even toothy smiles.
But in the most recent episodes it was mentioned Alestors Radio show was more of a torture session to those he imprisoned. My suspect is the earie shadow that follows 'Alestor' is actually the radio demon himself trapped in his own show. And Lilith bringing demons together with her voice fits more under the 'Welcome Home' Song as 'Alestor' gathered an audience in just a few minutes of coming back on the air from a 7 year hiatus
this would be SUCH a plot twist and im here for it
My theory is that once Alastor got into hell he stayed on the down low for a while until he met Lilith and he made a deal with her in exchange for power. I feel like something bad was going on and Lilith needed to deal with the issue and decided to bring Alastor with her hence the 7 year absence then I assume Lilith ordered him to look after Charlie while she was gone. Perhaps Lilith is dealing with something that could cause problems in the next season but who knows. I’m curious to know if Alastor actually cares about Charlie or just wants to use her to break free from Lilith contract. Could be both. If it is to break free tho that would make sense why he wanted to make a deal with Charlie in order to use that as leverage to get Lilith to set his soul free.
I cant stop listening to "you didnt know." This show is so good.
This show ever since i saw it 5 years ago instantly got me ADDICTED and bro Alastors voice is not that hard to understand its really not
I believe that since we knew from the pilot that Lucifer told Charlie never to make deals with demons maybe he warned her cuz Lillith made a deal with some random demon who's Alastor and since then she went missing and Lucifer never knew who that demon was, it's possible that this deal was for Lilith to own Alastor's soul so he can have such powerful abillites and she was the one to sent him to Charlie's hotel while she's gone doing something we don't know yet
Well I just figured, what if Lilith took a chance with Alastor and their deal meant he actually replaces her in hell? Given the 8th episode and that Lilith went on a heavenly vacation she might have had enough and then randomly a suitable host for her vast power arrives and boom, he gets her powers AND responsibilities and she gets his freedom to do whatever she sees fit at the time. That'd be a cool motive for Lilith making the deal and also for Alastor the psychopath to be so eager to break free from the chains of Lilith's responsibility of keeping Hell in a decent state and possibly keeping an eye on Charlie as well (although I really get the vibes that he wants to use Charlie for her powers, not that she's a part of his contract whatsoever).
Something most peaple forget is that Alastor physically cannot kill Lucifer, as he can only be smited by a higher ranking angel meaning anything of demonic nature probably cannot kill him
I definitely think having 10 or 12 episodes would be better for the first season at least. but I think Amazon wants to keep the episodes consistent with some of their other adult animated series like invincible and Fairfax for example and probably only had enough money in their budget for eight episodes. Overall I think Hazbin hotel is phenomenal and the stories and musicals are fantastic. I can’t wait to see how the first season ends.
I think Alastor is a sorta joker type of character that was tricked by Lilith into taking care of Charlie and he hates it especially given he was a mixed black man in his former life. So like you said i think he is trying to use charlie to screw over Lilith. Hell i can see him pulling a joker and becoming charlie arch nemesis in a way with her actually redeeming a sinner but then alastor tries to ruin by making the Hotel worse and for Lilith i think she's been attacked by Eve.
2:36 En-deer himself
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I've thought about this since the pilot tbh. Especially with the way alastor looked at lilith in the family photo
in the pilot the scene where alistor first came in and vegiie talks to charlie about it you can see alistor looking at a painting of a charlie and his dad and mom alistor looks at the painting than turns his head to look at lilith
Honestly, I wanted a full 24 or at least 13 or even 10 season more than anything but I love that we got this at all after YEARS of waiting, speculating, and fantasizing about what it might become
Guessing Alastor fell to holy arms, and lilith made a deal for his soul to save him. Now Alastor wants Charlie's soul as leverage to get out of the deal
Im dissapointed lucifer at the end did not do a "oh btw, i can vaporize you anytime"
My own wild Hazbin theory: Anyone else notice that when Charlie got mad Hell itself shook? If you know about Hellaverse lore you know Hell is actually "alive" too, that's why the buildings have mouths and eyes. When Executions kill sinners their "soul energy" is absorbed into Hell itself. What if Charlie, as the first Hell-born being, has the power to control Hell itself? A power not even Lucifer nor Lilith would have since they're an angel and human.
I think we migth be surprised by Eve. She exists, she had a big role in the creation of Hell, she was mentioned in the first episode, we have seen Adam, and yet, nothing about Eve.
Lilith is eve.
@@soulofcinder7392Start of the series says otherwise
Its likely eve became the mysterious character roo (root of all evil) as she took the apple
@@soulofcinder7392Lilith was Adam’s first wife until she disobeyed him ect so she was cast out and became mother of all demons ect. Eve was the second really. Show might chose to portray things dif
Im starting to wonder if Lilith made a deal with Alastor when he got to heaven to help him topple the other overlords in exchange for his soul. So when she left seven years ago, so did he, and she sent him back to help Charlie when she opened the hotel
Competely unrelated but was that bobs burgers in the lrogressive ad i just got before the video?
I love the Charlie Daniels band reference in the first song with the golden fiddle.
I think that alastor made a deal with lilith when he was alive
Just a thought
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9:29 Right!? Same! Both HH and Helluva Boss are sooo good! I recently watched both with my younger sister. We watched the first 4 episodes of HH, and then sometime later HB. We binged all 15 episodes of the latter that are out so far in one sitting.* I love them! We'll probably be keeping up with them pretty regularly. Definitely left me wanting more (in a good way).
*Edit: And we watched ep. 5 & 6 of HH relatively soon after they dropped, ofc, heh.
Honestly i have a personel theory and it does go to what you said about kinship, alastor and lilith could be related through blood or one i think that could be more possible is lillith could have found alastor injured from his fight with vox, and worked to repair him and i think lilith could have freely givin alastor this second chance with a promise that he'd look after charlie should he see her, and alastor more then likely could not come back for the 7 years because he was aclamting to the power he recived from lilith and i think by doing what she did i think lillith could have gave up her life to repair alastors injurys.
Allister is the or a wendigo the cannibalism in the deer motifs are kind of what I'm basing that off of
Alister wants to harness he voice through his broadcast and control hell and getting close to her daughter is huge to helping his plan
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Charlie’s emo phase
There really has to be a good reason for Alastor wanting to even bother with Charlie and the Hotel. I just can't see him going so out of his way to help her because he's "bored".
He's admitted and has been shown he finds the whole thing "bizarre". But he wants to be close to Charlie anyway and protects the Hotel, even sending away Mimzy.
However he doesn't want to harm Charlie either. (At least not right now?) So why? Is he hiding from someone despite being so strong? Or maybe he sees Charlie potentially as a strong tool in his arsenal and for his own machinations?
I don't really see him holding any affection for Charlie even as a "dad" figure. But he definitely has some kind of an interest or connection to the Morningstar family..and for sure dislikes Lucifer.
I'm really interested how that plays out.
My only problem is Alastor has been powerful for about a century so he’d have to meet Lilith very quickly and manage to strike a deal with her something that seems odd
I think it does make sense that he tried to make some sort of gamble with Lilith and lost. If there’s one thing he cares about it’s himself so his freedom is an easy motive.
Part of me wonders if Alastor's intention all along was to make lucifer jealous so that lucifer finally acknowledged Charlie for who she is now instead of seeing her conviction as childish fantasy. Maybe alastor saw reuniting this father and daughter as fulfilling part of the deal with Lilith in watching over Charlie and keeping her safe. His expression in the song between Charlie and Lucifer seems more to me like one of satisfaction, as if he did his job.
The smile to the portrait he gives does absolutely not feel to me like adoration. It's a freakin challenge. "Imma win her over, just look and see how I use your own damn daughter".
People be hyping Alastor power too much I honestly think if he's going for Lilith he's going to get kerb stomped
no one mentions how vox can trick people with his voice either. voice is a very main thing in this series
I think he's trying to get a deal with Charlie to use it to get out of his deal with Lilith. What's a better bargaining chip than your daughters soul? A release for a release
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate that Lucifer starts playing a golden fiddle, which is literally what he bet Johnny in "The Devil Went Down to Georgia"
2:53 at of all numbers, 7 - godly, perfect number... interesting
Dude I essentially said all of this on a comment in your last video, bout an hour before this video came out Xd
My theory is that Lilith sent Alastor to protect Charlie because Lilith wants Charlie to be the catalyst for a war between heaven and hell. She knows that heaven will never agree to redemption for souls and that Adam is a vindictive asshole who would specifically target Charlie's hotel during the exterminations because it dares to try something different and that Charlie is determined to save her people regardless of the risks. It would also be thematic for how Charlie's good intentions tend to make things worse. The path to hell is paved with good intentions seems to be a running theme. She knows that Charlie is the only thing Lucifer would fight for. And with Alastor being an enslaved bodyguard for Charlie makes it a very low risk to her while getting what she ultimately wants, a war with heaven. I also think it's possible that Alastor is trying to lull Charlie into a false sense of security so she will make a deal so he could have a bargaining chip against Lilith.
If it was really Lilith, than how would Husk know about this? Would Alastor really tell Husk about it? I doubt it. And if Husk saw the deal with his own eyes, you really think he wouldn't tell Charlie? Yeah, Alastor wouldn't want that, so why would Alastor let someone who knows about his deal with Lilith to her daughter's hotel as a worker?
I think what they have is strictly power driven. Lilth most likely made a deal with him.
Alastor is going to broadcast Lilith's songs over the radio. Power boost? Motivational song? The incoming doomsday might shut off power and radio will be the only form of communication.
I can't wait to see Alastor go full demon. I am so excited to see the design of his character at full potential.
A bit imagery that feels very deliberate is Lucifer and the phoenix. That's what he was obsessed with when Charlie was a child and when we see him in the modern day I think that's where his rubber duck collection comes from. He has been fixated on this for Charlie's whole life and the closest he has come to a phoenix is a fire breathing rubber duck. An extra layer of tragedy for the character
My theory is that Alastor and Lilith are accomplices and that they get along very well to the point that Alastor considers Lilith family, and they are making a plan to change the hierarchy between heaven and hell, and for this they need Charlie.
The biggest reason I don't think Alastor is seeking Lilith's power is because it was revealed behind the scenes that Alastor is like the protagonist of the Dexter series (Antihero type), he has a strong gray moral code that he faithfully follows, and is more interested in pursuing his own "personal justice" than power, and that is hunting down powerful people who abuse their power on the weak and innocent.
My theory is that Lilith abandoned Lucifer because he broke her heart when he easily gave in to allowing sinners to be killed (Who Lilith considered her people).
And Alastor, after killing other overlords (he didn't kill Husk because he was good and he liked him lol) realized that it was for nothing because the biggest abuser of power was Heaven but it was unattainable, and that's when he and Lilith met and they become allies and friends.
Something interesting is that it is confirmed that Lilith, Alastor, and Charlie like pizza with pineapple.
Together they spend seven years planning how to usurp Heaven, and they need Charlie (I don't know why).
Husk considers this relationship "a leash" because he doesn't understand Alastor.
And yep, I know this theory has holes and doesn't explain other things, but I refuse to think that Lilith and Alastor wouldn't get along or that Alastor doesn't have some kind of affection for Charlie, Husk, and the others at the hotel (Not that That makes him be Alastor lmao).
But I could be wrong, we'll see
Fast as hell upload
and thus Alastor is the most Power Demon in Hazbin Hotel
This is a pretty interesting theory.
2:30 - my exact reaction ngl....
I would like it if Lilith turns out to be a Siren. Alastor being the Radio Demon, the AUDIO to Vox's VISUALS, gunning for the literal VOICE of Hell makes sense. And, perhaps 7 years ago, he made that attempt, only for her to win and the Radio Demon to end up playing her song.
im thinking his deal is with the heavens or any kind of higher up from hell is for self preservation. he did a rampage! whats stopping him from taking over?
If Lilith controls Alastor maybe she is the Only one who could free Husk from him
He musst. Not be free if Alastor lilith
Johnny will you talk about Godzilla minus one?🤔🤔🤔🤔
I NEED to know who controls that man
I'd still wonder if Alastor sold his soul to help Charlie and to be Charlie's protector and to the Hotel as well
Gotta be honest, the first few episodes of the series came out kind of stumbling, and I was very apprehensive about the series' ability to deliver on its intentions. However, 5 and 6 did a good job kind of finding its footing and actually allowing for some fun exchanges. I was initially not really enjoying the series how I thought I would, but maybe that'll change by the time all is said and done.
Most likely, he have been making a deal back when he was just a sinner with her.
In orrder to rise and become one of the most powerfull overlords he had to make a deal with her.
They both dissapeard because he must been crossed her over or something like that.
Alastor gets fucked up in his fight with vox, has to make a deal with lilith to save himself
Vox almost gets beaten by alastor, until alastor spares him out of pity
@@tropicality1412 that is also a complete guess
Johnny which one you are enjoying more? Hazbin or helluva?
I think if its not lilith thats controlling alaster then its the Root of All Evil. Its described as being like a primordial being and probably is the thing that came to earth in the shows opening when lucifer gave humans the forbidden fruit. Alaster is like its chosen champion to spread its will. It could also be the source of alaster's extreme power
I can't help but wonder if Alastor and Lilith missing for the same amount of time is a red herring. Out of every character so far, Eve has been discussed even less than Lilith, and Eve's sinister smile with the apple being the immediate precursor to evil finding Earth; Viv did mention years ago that Roo was supposed to be the ultimate evil, however, there's the possibility Eve and Roo are the same. This is most certainly a reach, but since Roo is in reference to root of all evil, Alastor's tendrils do look a bit like roots, not to mention how both Eve's depiction, and (what might have been) Roo's depiction on the clocktower of the pilot both having toothy smiles and touches of red, there's a chance of there being a connection, I think. Perhaps Alastor (and maybe even Lilith) went out to seek Eve for whatever reason, or Lilith sought to stop Alastor from finding Eve, and made a deal with him, or Alastor maybe did find Eve and was put under a bad contract that he wants out of, and so went to the hotel since maybe something in that contract can be broken if he helps Charlie. I'm still piecing together what role Alastor's desire to know about the death of the exorcist played in this
I have theorized that Alastor's soul was owned by someone else, and I love that my theory got confirmed
His smile seems very strained when he looks at Lilith