A titanic find on this Apollo 13 computer! Amiga movie magic
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- čas přidán 10. 06. 2024
- I thought this Commodore Amiga was used to make "Apollo 13" but the truth was even more titanic!
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This is awesome. I was the VFX Director of Photography on both Apollo 13 and Titanic (the guy with the buzz cut and beard in the photo at the beginning), and seeing that old Amiga and the video tap footage after all these years brought many memories rushing back. Thanks for all the effort to bring the machine back to life and for posting this video. Tell Chris that Erik Nash said hello.
Erik, thank you for reaching out, for your kind words, for your contribution to motion picture history, and for identifying yourself in that photo! I'm a bit speechless (typeless) to have heard from people who actually brought these movies to life. Michael Karp (the motion control guru) reached out recently also. So all I'll say is I am humbled that you saw my little video about your big video. Thank you.
Christian Simpson aka Perifractic
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@@RetroRecipes Hi You have left out in 1992 from a book I read at Myers Australia. Speilberg used 52 Amiga's to the do the graphics in Jurassic Park. Retro investigate this amazing story!
This, right here, is why we have the Internet.
@@danilko1 Exactly, a friend of mine did a music cover a few years ago on YT just for some friends & family and it somehow got recognized by the original artist and he put it on his FB page and that post saw a producer and she got a record deal out of it.
Always give your best you'll never know who's watching . ;-)
What are we seeing here then? All I am seeing is a piece of incredibly fuzzy video at cinema aspect ratio. What am I missing?
Being an Amiga user for so many years. I thought, i saw everything. This film proved it wrong. Fantastic discovery!
When you've got a gal that replaces the powersupply for you - that's a keeper!
My wife is a goalie, she's a keeper.
@@anotheruser9876 So you scored? ;)
@@macartm She'd be a rubbish goalie, then. :)
@@anotheruser9876 I hear she's good with ba... I'll get my coat.
Like a charm. 😉⚘
As a Titanic and Amiga aficionado, this video was a home run on many levels for me... a few minor timeline clarifications: This specific machine wouldn't have been on the set of The Abyss. The Abyss was shot in 1988/89 and the A4000 didn't appear until 1992. Apollo 13 and the Amiga 4000 are both relics of the 90s, not the 80s. Production on Titanic began in 1996, which was a couple of years after Commodore's ship sank, but of course these machines continued to be used in cool places like the film industry and NASA well beyond the death of the company that created them.
I like your pun.
Would you be happy to know both a NASA Amiga and this 4000 are side to side soon?
@@marvindroogsma7989 You better believe it!
In my last comment I said something about Peri having done a deal with the devil to land his stunning girl freind since the general laws of the universe do not tend match Amiga nerds with beautiful women who also happen to be computer nerds . But then the truth finally outs ...he flys a freaking star fighter in star wars meaning he has a considerable advantage lol good stuff. This was a truly titanic historic episode news worthy really
Kiki !
According to these rules, Ladyfractic could have easily teamed up with Wil Wheaton. I digress...
"Looking at this machine, it is very clear to see just what it's been through."
Yup, 240 volts.
one of the coolest video of the year. period
Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️
My ol' mum did some screenwriting, she was mentored at Bournemouth Uni for her degree by Tony Scott and Matt Frewer and did some good stuff before the big C claimed her, a shame as she had a genius in writing and we were all surprised at the floral tributes from quite a lot of ppl in the industry for her funeral.
I noticed the way Puppyfractic’s ears perked up every time you said “treat.”
I hope that you gave that poor, deprived pooch a treat.
Yup, she knows her British English! And she got too many!
I can't even find a broken Amiga up here in Canada. And here you are, exploring unicorns! Thank you!
Thanks, Chris (and supporting cast). This was truly amazing - As my mate in the pub said, "Lucky Bastards!!!"
Due to the amount of porn found previously on Team17 computers, should we be concerned about how sticky this Amiga 4000 is?
Absolutely stunning. Footage from the Amiga was pretty good too...
Heh heh heh
I'm deeply amazed, this is one of the most relevant Amiga discoveries so far... wish there were more details abou the ARexx part :)
I come here for the retro computers, but absolutely love you guys' sense of humor ❤️ Eee uuu eee uuu 😂
Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️
Same here. My wife and I often get silly like that at times.
Reminds me of an incident back in my publishing days. One of the ancient web presses went down during an important print job because the i80486 based controller died. My friend in IT traced it back to a finally failed power supply, but couldn't get her hands on a matching one soon enough to finish printing in time to collate and ship by the due date. I remembered I had a 486 pc sitting in the basement I hadn't used in years and lent them the power supply. My IT friend and the facility engineer got it installed and plugged everything back in, but forgot the outlets were industrial 220 rather than the 110 the power supply was designed for. It blew up and the engineer had to borrow one from his son's vintage computer collection. Fortunately, it didn't damage the controller and they were able to get the press back up and running.
If that machine contained behind the scenes of the infamous salad bowl drop scene, or when Tom Hanks Corvette stalled, or when Blanch said "Are you SCARED?!", I would have offered $1,000,000,000 for it. Those are by far the best scenes in all of movie history.
"If you aim for the stars..." you might end up at the bottom of the ocean.
This is simply awesome. Those Amigas keep on giving! I also love how happy you guys are on finding the Titanic footage.
I came here not knowing what to expect. In the end. I was awestruck! that is some amazing footage you've stumbled upon! and we all are much richer from experiencing this!
Wicked cool to see the many things Amiga's were used for. Everyone just looks at them and thinks games but there is more to the story than just games.
The company I work for in France used Amiga 1200 in interactive kiosk. The last one was pulled out of service in 2012. Theses kiosk lived outside. I've seen board with corrosion, so much rust and yet they still boot to kickstart !
Granada Studios in Manchester, UK used Amigas to allow guests to record scenes in the Rover's Return pub in Coronation Street using blue screen.
The London Transport Museum used Amiga CD32s for interactive kiosks. I read about so many other weird uses in the years of reading Amiga magazines in its heyday, sadly forgot them all though.
So you basically managed to find lost footage? That's amazing
23:22 I have to say I'm truly deeply touched. I had (and still have) an Amiga, I loved Apollo XIII and also Titanic and in this right moment I said to myself: Oh my GOD! Thanks so much dudes...
"I'm literally breathing in Tom Hanks right now" hahaha, that made me laugh!! GREAT video!
Only it turned out he was actually breathing in James Cameron.
With a side a of Bacon, the Kevin type.
Now please find the Amigas they used for "Babylon 5" or "Seaquest DSV" ... If there are Lightwave models ... would be awesome
I actually saw one guy trying to run Babylon 5 models on IRIX machine. Of course it didn't work as routes to textures and other stuff were different on Amiga and Irix and guy actually told so, but this was an experiment. I believe you can find those 3D models relatively easily as a single guy in Russia managed to do that without much of an issue
This isn't exactly new. Samuel Cockings, who does trekyards, somehow got his hands on the CGI models they used in stargate.
Dr. Terra as someone who built a lot of those seaQuest models I can tell you that by today’s standards they’re not at all impressive. What surprises me the most was how many we actually made at the time, and how we were basically making them as we built them. Also we didn’t use 4000s for seaQuest. We used 2000s with 040 accelerator cards, 32 mb of ram, which was a considered a fast machine back then. We had two workstations each and we’d model on one and render on the other, and then switch back and forth since rendering a still image to see your model could upwards of an hour depending on complexity.
@@teealso Now the computer I have would be like magic to you back then. You couldn't conceive of the rendering power my system has. Shit, you were still using VHS tape and standard definition at the time. 🤣
@@teealso This is actually really cool to read this from someone who actually worked on one of 90's shows. I loved Seaquest when I was a kid, so it's interesting to get information on how it was made.
Two thoughts after watching this.
One: Love it when data is backed up and made publicly available like this. Seen too many cases where "collectors" refuse to back up game data because it "might hurt the value" of the physical vessel of that data.
Two: Now I looking at getting a copy of Battle for Naboo and wondering if I can get it signed somehow...
Thank you for your kind words. Means a lot! 👍🕹 Feel free to email me (link in description) for getting that cool game signed ;-)
Thank you for your kind words. Means a lot! 👍🕹 Feel free to email me (link in description) for getting that cool game signed ;-)
Heh, I still have to buy it first.... but you may get an email after the holiday postal crush is over.
AAAHHH, this is so cool. This is history. I had and loved my Amiga, cannot ell you how much this video makes me happy.
Someone found the harddrives from Amigas that had renderings from Babylon 5
I just love how jank the power buttons are on these older machines XD
That was AMAZEBALLS! Thanks so much for showing us the journey of that 'found footage'.
I almost bought that A4000 on ebay. I would have spent whatever it took. Glad you guys got it!
How much did the Amiga sell for?
This was one of your best videos ever, PF. Good work. Also, Lady Fractic needs her own retro channel.
Thanks!!
And this is her channel ;-)
I'm thinking did you intentionally fry the power supply to get Ladyfractic on the video lol.
The Amiga 4000 was the last of the Amiga line and more specifically it was purposefully designed to run NewTek's Video Toaster, which was an incredible piece of video editing hardware and software. In the later years NewTek used to sell the machine branded as Video toaster with a very colorful graphic badge on the front of the box.
The computer used the Motorola 68040 processor, there were some third party company's who utilized the Motorola 68060 processor and for a brief time the PowerPC processor and sold these computer on a board to slide into the Amiga to make it more powerful.Once Apple decided to use Intel chip processors it was game over for those processor lines.
Amiga's were very sensitive to electrostatic discharges and even sometimes pulling out a monitor cable or even a joystick out of the back port incorrectly would cause the controller port to blow out.
So you always had to power off your Amiga before doing such foolhardy things. The Amiga 500 and later on the Amiga 1200 were more robust. Maybe because their cases were plastic and the 2000, 3000 and 4000 were metal.
Apple had to switch to Intel. Microsoft purchased all the PowerPC chips for the X-box. I had one of the first Toasters.
I miss my Amiga 1200. The day of the Northridge earthquake I made a call to the company that made the 12 gauge math co processor board. I mis-dialed and got an old timer who laughed his ass off when I called and asked about his 12 gauge.
That video input card with the ribbon cable connected to the PAR is the DPS TBC 3 (Time base corrector) in case you wanted to know. I totally forgot about the ARexx implementation in my software. Good memories. LOL
Amazing stuff. Really makes me wish I'd gotten to know the Amiga better back when it was current.
Some fondly memories are made, that you’ll never forget. Thanks for sharing!
I immediately destroyed my power supply, in hope she will appear to fix it.
If only she was single.
We'll keep dreaming my friend, let's have a drink ;)
@@Blue_Noah when she said here's one for the dogs, I was already thinking about the 2 she gave us already 😲
Nobody cares that you have a penis
Only the Amiga makes it possible. Absolute awesome find.
Seven Of Nine fixing computers... nothing unusual to report :D
Loool! No wonder her face was familiar. She totally is Seven of Nine!
More like ezri dax tbh
I just logged on to watch the power supply fix. WINNING.
Came to this channel for the Retro PCs, came out of it realizing I've seen his face in some Star Wars movies and a Harry Potter film. Damn!
But it was also the The Phantom Menace. Atleast though he wasn't Jar Jar.
I'll repeat some previous comments but watching all off your videos and a lot of other retro channels (being it Amiga, C=, Atari, Sinclair, Nintendo, whatever) this is your's best video ever and probably one of the best if not The best one in retro computers scene this year! Period!
Wow! what a treasure!
Thanks for showing this to us - the retro community!
Thank you SO much. It means the world to know you guys get what I'm doing here. :-D
so sad to see a glorious A4000 treated as a common old "piece of hw". ;(
It deserved a much better care
Nah, it would be much better if they'd been ubiquitous like commodity hardware. Then the company might still be alive.
Actually the desktop A4000 was a piece of junk. It was cheaply made, and far too cramped. We had a 4000 with PAR like the one in the video (internal 1gb par drive) and we had to run it with the cover off or it would overheat. The 2000 though, that thing was a tank!
Seeing Puppyfractic is a treat for us all.
Epic find! Congratulations, and thanks for taking us along on the adventure!
As soon as I saw Lightstorm Entertainment, I thought "that's James Cameron's production company. They weren't involved with Apollo 13!"
Apollo 13 was released in 1995 in theaters what a great film it was
WOW. It's not everyday you come across a find like that! SUPER cool. Hope you all have a merry Christmas!
Funny how these “ieku ieku” sounds Ladyfractic makes actually have a meaning in Germany because there was a scene in the famous “Werner” cartoons where they searched for a special lubricant because the car they were driving made exactly these sounds... Maybe other viewers from Germany recognise that cartoon.
czcams.com/video/IDV-T4OfPTs/video.html for reference
Dagegen _nur_ originohl Oldsmobile 98 Regency andikwietsch!
this comment is more important that the whole video. thanks for sharing
huh huhuhuh You said, "Special lubricant!"
Na, IEKU IEKU IEKU eben!
TRULY TRULY..... EPIC!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*Almost no one else* could have done as good a job of it as you have!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
AMIGA....... FOR... THE... WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is so cool to see one of the developers of the old games.. i love Chris, like Ron Gilbert for example.
"Such an impressive heatsink. If only we'd had such heatsinks at the Battle Of Trafalgar!"
Wow!!!!! How incredible ... so many memories.
Amiga is your best AMIGO from now on I think...
Thank you for sharing. The Titanic on the Amiga is beyond amazing.
This is the second episode I've seen of your data archeology work. Thank you so much for this. I hope that y'all are fulfilled with more opportunities to do this kind of thing.
Thank you for this. I really enjoyed this and your music is literally perfect for this too. Thank you!
I thought only Commodore management could give me that sinking feeling...
Guys that is absolutely amazing! Only Amiga makes it possible :-)
Amazing video!!! And the repair by Lady Fractic was a pleasure to watch!!!!
This is mind blowing! Easily my favourite vid of yours yet!!!!
Wow. I am very impressed by Lady F's skills around electronics. In HS, my girl-friend told me she picked out the best Christmas gift for me. I was sooo psyched, I could hardly wait. The gift, however, turned out to be a green sweater. It felt like a gift for her. In turn, I bought her about 8 games for the Atari 8 bit which I wrapped and gave her. I was not our finest hour.
Haha OMG
The Amiga didn't only saved Apollo 13, but the earth in the 2009 movie "Quantum Apocalypse", not bad.
This video was excellent! Thank you very much for sharing the content. I hope someone is able to read the data from the last drive. Thanks again.
One computer that I built in 1980, was shown on Disney's original TRON (1982). It was in the scene where Flynn is zapped into the 'Grid'. I assume they used it (Version 2 case that we made) because it did not resemble anybody else's models (big boys of the era) and our company was a victem of the high interest rates by 1982. Only a few hundred were produced, But I still have one in the version 3 case. I was it's designer.
Very cool!
Thank you for taking the time to make images of the drives and making them available or downlload! Very cool. Thanks!!
I visited two colleagues when they worked on the film. For everyone who thinks they didn't use cgi in 1996: They had a (windows) NT department and an sgi (silicon graphics) department (and apparently some amiga's). The NT department was mainly lightwave3d, at the sgi department they used wavefront and nuke which was their in house compositing software, later sold to the foundry. If I remember correctly they didn't film the scale models under water, they just used a lot of smoke to get the right effect. They had 2 models at the same scale to film the transition from the wreck to the version of the ship before it sunk. For the live shots they built the decks at 3/4 scale somewhere in the desert. They composited the falling people after the ship broke in half from actor to 3D dummy to a splash they filmed by throwing rocks in the harbor. Feel free to correct me and add more info!
forton nope you pretty much nailed it. The live set was in Rosarito, Mexico. They only made one side of the ship though, and depending on the side it was meant to be they printed all the signage backwards and then flopped the print.
So many vids in my "watch later" because of Christmas, I hand picked this one too watch with lunch today. So glad I did. Wow at your Star Wars story mate. That's fantastic! And the A4000 find.... Ah crap at the 240v goof. Dude nooooo :( good job you have the wife to fix it :D. Fantastic find on the HDD. WOW! Mate to see that footage rolling so smoothly on such a relic of a machine is testament to how awesome the Amiga was for it's time, and how far ahead of the game it was. Where was apple back then in the movie business? No where. On a production note, great work on the music composition too. Uplifting tones at just the right moment I'm the right quantity. Loving your work more and more! All the best for 2020 mate.
Cheers mate!
Watching your videos are always a pleasure. I grew up with these machines in the 80s. Your videos bring back great memories. Thank you! Looking forward to seeing you cross subscribe thresholds as the channel grows.
Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️
All You need now is James Cameron to offer to come on an episode on your channel to discuss the footage further
I'm down!!
Retro Recipes that would be amazing, try your best to get him on here
what a great and historic Vedio you create here, as if it not just enough to have the Amiga 400 ,but also the same one that used to make the movie it self. This is like A dream come true for anyone, how luke you are Perifractics's Retro. It's so exciting and full of memory that you find original material from the movies that considers to be one of the best in the film industry. Thank you very much for this Nice clip.
Wow. Yes I will be playing that on my 4000 with par card. I am really excited!! Thanks so much. Keep up your good work.
If you manage to get it working drop me an email via perifractic.com as I have a request! 👍🕹️
You have found the "Heart Of The Ocean" she's sitting next to you
You're not wrong
@@RetroRecipes Just don't throw it in the sea!
impressive surprise after a long and winding road of preparations.
well done.
Amiga made a good product for its time. Even the old Commodore 64 with it's interchangeable cartridges worked well and was simple to operate. Just because they are considered obsolete doesn't mean they were junk. I think I still have an Amiga system in the basement. My children played games constantly growing up.
For a while TVNZ in New Zealand used, an amiga system for weather graphics and was considered ahead of its time when they used it.
Ok, this is weird.
I'm subbed to the channel, but this is the first thing that has come up in my feed in months, even though you've put out a bunch of video since.
Damn it youtube! I want my chips dipped and my recipodes well done, not medium rare!
Hahaha try turning on notifications or follow my social for updates perifractic.com/contact 👍🕹️
Fantastic disk backup job and psu repair! Happy holidays!
Incredible how the data is still intact on the harddrive after all these years.
If that was an SSD the data would have leaked away by now after so long not being powered on.
@@The65c02 I dont understand how a magnetic surface can retain its information over such long timeperiod though.
@@Marius-vw9hp There are plenty of 8 tracks still in working order.
@@Marius-vw9hp The old lower capacity drives seem to live on, likely due to the data being spread over a larger surface area. Some say after 30 years the data would be lost, others say up to 70 years. There are magnetic tapes from the early 70s that have been read with ease. I still have floppy disks from 1987 that read just fine. As for SSD's I've had one become totally unreadable after sitting in a draw for 6 years powered off, after formatting I could write new data to it. .
Let's not forget that HD's back in the days cost as much as a computer today and the materials and build quality was next to none compared to modern standards, i.e. quantity before quality. Take apart an old SCSI HD and do the same with a modern SATA and you'll be surprised how simplified they are today - and why old HD's will still work even after sitting idle for 30 years. When IDE overtook SCSI as standard in home computers this is when we begun experiencing catastrophic HD failures, but they were much cheaper so we all went for quantity... Most mechanical HD's today seems to last 3-5 years depending on use. Have lost too many during the years...
Video Assist History Alert - Gerry Anderson, he of Thunderbirds, Stingray, Captain Scarlet etc, was a huge user and pioneer of the role of video assist. They also shot on film so had to be completely confident they got the takes before moving onto the next shots. The puppets were apparently such a pain to sync the mouths with the dialogue track that they couldn't wait for the dailies to come back, they needed to know there and then. It's detailed in the excellent documentary Filmed In Supermarionation that came out 5 or 6 years ago and is a must-watch for any fan of those programmes!
Wow, what a epic find. You guys are so entertaining when you do these kind of videos but to find movie history like that is on another level and so well presented. 👏
Thank you for your kind words! Means a lot 👍🕹️
@@RetroRecipes No problem, i enjoy watching your videos a lot , Just never commented in the past as my channel is about model planes, Incidentally their is a young lady that seems to be trying your style of commentary when talking about her C64 very strange indeed.
@@RcAircraft Thanks. Well they say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery 😊
@@RetroRecipes Too True. ;-)
Wow that's really impressive. A real star ocean.
Sad to think with them chucking a lot of stuff away how much images,files and videos have disappeared to do with shows and movies
charming as always! love you, guys!
I really hope his dog got a treat after this :)
He gave her a CDTV to chew on.
I love the awesome history discovered in these videos.
I'm sure sooner or later someone will figure out how to play back the files without the card.
And as someone who is a *HUGE* Titanic nerd (and the movie is one of my favs), this was an amazing end-of-the-year gift!
Yay!
Well this was EVEN more Awesome than i could've ever wished!
I remember the days that we had a PAR for the first time (Intern at 3gitaal, The Netherlands), it was crazy expensive but amazing to render lightwave images and play them realtime using the personal animation recorder en record them on Betacam in studio quality. (before they used single frame capturing) Amazing find! And extra proud to own an Amiga 4000 now.
This is truly amazing.
Amazing find! I heard you mention the AREXX scripting language. I used to program that for my Amiga BBS using TransAmiga BBS software back in the '90s. It was a really nice, easy to use scripting language. Powerful as well. I had entire online games (BBS doors) written using nothing but AREXX. The Amiga 4000 was always my dream machine back then, but out of my price range. I owned an A500, A1200 and A2000HD and still miss them to a certain extent. They were used quite a bit in TV videos at the time. I remember the weather network used one for all it's weather displays. I knew this because one day, live on the air, their Amiga crashed and when I turned the channel, there was that famous GURU MEDITATION ERROR flashing on my cable TV. And I was like, kewl, they use an Amiga! I use an Amiga! ;)
Love your wife by the way. Quite a talented gal.
What a find! Thanks for sharing.
What an amazing find! Thanks for sharing!
Interesting. The hard disk that appears at 27:44 looks like a SCSII model, used on a PVR Perception board, the hardware that replaced the PAR board, from the same manufacturer. I worked with a PAR on an Amiga 4000 and then started using a PVR on a windows PC, later. Very nice video, by the way.
You're right it is! I didn't realize until after.
This is truly amazing
Brilliant video. A truly amazing find.
This really is a part of history.
WOW! Well Done Gents! Priceless!
Now that’s freaking awesome
Great story. Watching a recording of a recording of a recording of the video of the titanic was cool. I would have thought it would be possible to transcode those videos into MPEG, AVI or whatever. I can't imagine it would be too difficult because it's likely to be a very rudimentary proprietary format that just serialized the data in each frame along with a timestamp so it would be a simple matter to re-write it to MPEG because there are open-source libraries for writing to these newer formats.