Antikythera Mechanism: The ancient 'computer' that simply shouldn't exist - BBC REEL
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- A hundred and twenty years ago, divers discovered a shipwreck off the island of Antikythera in Greece. What they found changed our understanding of human history.
The mysterious Antikythera Mechanism has captured the imagination of archaeologists, mathematicians, and scientists ever since, even inspiring the plot for Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny! Now, using the latest 3D x-ray and modelling technology, experts are unravelling the secrets of what this machine may have been capable of.
Video by Harriet Constable
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It's a bit unsettling to realize that advanced tech will not necessarily prevent a civilization to fall. And that when a civilization falls, its technological knowledge just will be forgotten.
You my friend have hit the nail directly on the head. How much knowledge have we truly lost over the centuries/millenniums. No civilization is protected from demise and I fear we are edging closer to a major collapse of world civilization. Here in the USA we are worried about pronouns while dangerous people are playing dangerous games all around us.
The Romans invented cement but this knowledge was lost after the fall of Rome only to be rediscovered in modern times.
Yeah, but that pic of my ass posted on the internet will be there forever...... go figure.
Yes although we will likely leave a pretty significant footprint digitally and physically. I reckon our civilisation would be able to be discovered pretty easily
Almost impossible now because we have written our knowledge almost everywhere and in different forms
Just goes to show our ancestors had the same brains we do, capable of astonishing achievements and great leaps forward. Present day arrogance needs to be seen in this light.
Crazy to think they knew some of the stuff we know today.
Considering they wrote dozens of religions that sound primitive it surprises me they had understanding of engineering and astronomy.
@@SelfImprovement1111 I don't get you, wdym with primitive religions?
It was even more impressive back then to make such sophisticated machines when they didn’t have knowledge that we have of modern technology to guide them, it really is crazy how astute and perceptive the ancient people of the world were back then.
@@homerosouza2353 lmao all religions are “primitive” even the current ones. But you get what he means
@@bryansantillano I completely agree with you, but it sounded like he just consider the old religions to be primitive. Maybe I just misinterpreted him.
I remember doing a report on it when I was in middle school. I emailed the head researcher with some questions and he graciously answered all of them.
May you share details of your report and the researchers answers?
@@PS_ItsMe he was in elementary school bro..
@@user-pg1ns1tf3oSome people save interesting stuff from their childhood, though
@@user-pg1ns1tf3oCan it run doom?
@@MitchellTheMitch Great question and probably.
Imagine how devastating it was to lose this in the shipwreck back in the day.
5:26 It was not
According to this video, this mechanic was common so if it was lost at sea wouldnt there be many others?? What happened to all the makers and inventors of this item? DId they all die without passing on their knowledge? Wouldnt this invention be written in hundreds of books, wouldnt people build upon it like how clocks are being built to this very day from hundreds of years ago? I feel like some information is missing
It was probably a great loss but they speculate it might have been a prototype on an experimental Greek warship or exploratory vessel; it just further puts it into context how similar people have always been. I like to imagine that everything would have felt just as sophisticated and as advanced as it did today throughout human history. You’ve got to imagine as well that for something like this to be on a ship in the first place, they weren’t worried about losing the ONLY mechanism they had.
@@sew_gal7340They speculate this was a very secretive technology. Even if it had been written about, you’ve got to consider how many libraries have been charred into the gutters by enthusiastic Christian mercenaries and other barbarians. :’(
@@Linkolitethat's a good point. This might have been a prototype or being shipped to a wealthy person or king. Can imagine devices similar to these could've been put onto ships for navigation yet this one they say is predicting sky observation well into the future, so I'm not sure exactly what they wanted to do with this. But would have been amazing if they'd used this technology to make navigation devices for all their ships and each ship had one. Just would've been amazing like a fleet of ancient ships with "modern" technology.
I can imagine the greek dude who made it talking to the ship captain like:
"This is a never before seen invention that will revolutionize how the world sees the stars, it can even predict eclipses. So please, for the sake of scientific advancement, don't sink."
"Yeah, like that's gonna happen."
I thought it would be amusing if it was a child’s toy. Just imagine the look on their faces if they deciphered the language and it read , For children 10 yrs old and up. Lol.
it wasn't designed out of the blue, Scientists agree that there must have been predecessors! So while it might have been important science other machines like it probably existed at the time, maybe even better versions of the same machine so it might not have been important or even unique we just don't know much about it, and none of these alleged predecessors have ever been discovered either. They just must have existed because no one makes technological leaps to mechanical computers over night lol
As hes talking they just take it from him and toss it off the ship lol
@@EggEnjoyer How did NASA lose such a technology. I am confusion
@@pixiedust6630 by being idiots and not storing data. There is a reason why we have been using russian/Soviet rockets
120 years ago that was still the most advanced computer on earth.
Not necessarily depending upon definition. There were 'computers' made in the 18th century, they just weren't as versatile and ofc not electric.
@@whohan779 Charles Babbage, eh?
I would argue that an abbacus from 4000 years ago was more of a "computer" than this thing.
@NITERAGERS You're wrong, the first proto-homo-sapiens came on this planet approx 150,000 years ago who were the survivors of a battlestar known as galactica. They interbred with the local humanoid species which had evolved naturally.
No it was not. It was broken and corroded and missing a bunch of stuff.
It's like saying a broken smartphone is an "advanced computer". No. It's an expensive and very thin brick.
While the Antikythera is clearly a marvel, I’m impressed with how far 3D Xray has come that we’ve been able to uncover all the mechanisms and inscriptions!
Seriously😂 or the fact that I’m watching this video in 4k while communicating with you halfway across the world all on a thin little device I can fit in my pocket. Funny how far we’ve come
The sad thing now is that CZcams is deleting comments they don't like.@@favray
@@kevinreyimperial722 Exactly!!.
The mechanism could've been invented by some group and was kept classified which may explain why nobody wrote about it despite possibly having more than one device in existence.
What's scary is that we might have the same thing going on today. Someone out there in the world may have invented a device that is completely out of our time, and none of us know about it besides them.
Current day version would be the Skunkworks division at Lockheed.
Good point that, and rather worrying at the same time.
That's a spooky thought 😮
Oh, well..
We all should just expect that PLENTY is being hidden from us.
This is an exciting thought, but not a particularly plausible one. We are now too complex of a world, for individuals to be able to make any advances, let alone an advance that is beyond the ken of universities or large corporations.
It really makes me wonder where we would be as a civilization if we never lost so much ancient knowledge. a gear based calculating machine was literally millennia ahead of its time, losing this technology might have actually set us back centuries
So did burning the library of Alexandria 🤦♂️
It's happened time and time again through out history. Generally at the hands of religious zealots.
@@SilvaDreams Actually, there were lots of libraries like the one in Alexandria and they faded not because of religious zealots but because of apathy. It was expensive to maintain those libraries and scholars and when kings wanted to go to war, they let the libraries mildew. Most fires were accidental and the reality was much less exciting than people think. :)
theres a time machine back then rremember?
@@eshbena I was referring to the suppression of technology more so than just libraries burning down. That came by the limitations of the building materials being wood and fire the only light source... and paper (Or it's animal skin variant) was hard to make and doesn't last very long due to mold, mildew, insects and so on (plus the inks fading)
What's extra amazing is how small and delicate this device is - I went to Athens just to see it and was blown away. The craftsmanship and mathematics required to create such a thing is astounding.
As it is inexplicable. That this tech existed so long ago, defies the rest of what we assume ancient life to have been.
Oi oi ;)
@@nixl3518 that wasn't ancient life it wasn't that long ago lol
Genesis 11:6
This channel has a series of videos where the creator makes one with the tools that would have been available at the time. It's a really interesting watch.
czcams.com/video/ML4tw_UzqZE/video.html
This generates so many questions: how did they cut and assemble the tiny, clock-like gears? Why didn't this technology lead to other, similar devices and 'calculators'? Why haven't more been found?
Metals are often repurposed for things like spear heads, or jewelry, or bullets, or statues... Also, when was the last time you used a landline telephone?
1. Metals where way more valuable back then (bronze/brass) so it was often repurposed
2. There was no fast traveling or social media to share knowledge fast and easy
3. People spoke different languages and often didn't travel far from their birth place (language barriere) hard to share knowledge if you can't communicate in detail (no google translate)
4. There was not much interest in the space and reasons for things (Gods where made up to explain the unexplained) it's way easier to say "because god" to everything, and explain every question with "god" especially back then where almost everyone was religious, so these precious metals in their eyes had better uses than mapping the solar system. Researchers also believe this "computer" was a gift to a greek lord who was a astrology nerd.
these are just my opinions and ideas, because the craftmanship to make something like that without machine precision down to the millimeter and the mathematics is just a combination that was rare. Academy's where a new thing and only a luxury of the wealthy back then and not something widespreed. More than half the world still lived in caves and hunted wild animals with wooden spears, Europe was way advanced than rest of the world with maybe some parts of Asia and Egypt as exceptions
@@juuk3103 This is my take too. Imagine Da Vinci was able to build a successful prototype of his helicopter design, which proves what is possible but would have had limited value compared to modern helicopters because of things like the strength, weight and durability of the available materials at that time, as well as the ability to give it sufficient power. Everybody expresses wonder and bafflement at the invention that is way ahead of it's time and precisely because it's so far ahead of it's time it remains nothing but a curiosity.
Watch clickspring's antikythera series.
Mabye it was dropped on the sight by an other passing Ship much later and mabye the mechanism belonged to a Swiss clock maker, you cant C14 the mechanism,
I like that the inventor of the mechanism gave his invention a built-in instruction manual, extremely thoughtful 😂😂😂
Or her
@@gdredd9587most def a guy
@@gdredd9587 nah
@@chickensandmuskets nah it was a woman
@@FaeiryneFaun nah all they know how to do back then was make them olive oil and sweep really think a woman had knowledge of how a gear worked
That's exactly what I've always thought about history that in those days, very advanced technologies were made and then after a generation or two, lost completely simply because of lack of communication and lack of storing information. Now imagine how many great minds would have come into being and gone without leaving any footprint.
And imagine how many great minds will be completely connected via the internet in 100 years. All of them.
Future innovation is going to be unimaginable.
@@bennyl7224 exactly, innovation will accelerate exponentially
@@bennyl7224 You confuse the need to be educated with the need to prove to others that you are educated. I would submit that there are many educated people today who could contribute by publishing what they know but simply refuse to do so. One very good reason is that a person who has made a discovery doesn't want it to be used for the wrong purposes by others. This is why 1/2 the scientists in the Manhattan Project regretted that they ever helped to develop the first atom bomb. What the modern Internet does in that regard is to spread what you learned or developed to more of the wrong people. The "wrong people" today are primarily Greedy Capitalists who will use what you teach them to make as much money as possible, as quickly as possible regardless of your original intentions. One reason why the machine in this video has remained such a secret since Antiquity may be that the person who developed made sure that only a few, "well intentioned people even knew of its existence. There is a difference between being smart and needing to brag to other people about how smart you are. Think about it.
@@JosephKulik2016 I say the "wrong people" today are terrorists.
There was ancestors who would have been as smart if not smarter than Einstein
03:10 for those wondering why they'd fly the huge x-ray machine and not the booksized object, it's because despite astronomically small chances of a planecrash or a ship sinking, there's plenty of x-rays in the world but only one single known object like this.
I figured the machine was priceless.
Still the x-rays-machine brought to Greece was one of a kind back then, but it COULD be rebuild in case of an accident during transport, in opposition to the Antikythera mechanism, as you already yourself noticed. The greek ministry of culture didn´t allow it to be moved away of the museum, and that was, of course, a correct decision..
Makes sense but i think, just a small bump in the object could be prejudicial to its delicated state, thats really why they did it.
@@klausbrinck2137 For more reasons than one though - cultural theft is still something the Greeks are smarting about with bits of the Parthenon all over the world and outside of Greek national control.
@@mnomadvfx I don´t understand what you mean by "smarting about". I´m no english-native-speaker... Greece has bad experiences with foreign states and its cultural inheritance...
Now, I have to wonder that when this device was completed, wouldn't they have to meticulously set everything to the exact current date, star and moon phases, planet positions etc., for it to be accurate? If that's the case, it would be on a whole other level of mind blowing besides just making the thing in the first place!
I mean all they had to do was tinker around with how many teeth to put on a gear to make some little indication move around the real hard part is all the planetary gears connecting them all together since it Displayed multiple things
This is how Indiana Jones’s story got inspired from
During World War 2, many soldiers noticed strange looking objects in the sky.
@@majestic7768 Sorry, that was me
Yeah it was cool
@@tankman5783It's a bird, it's a plane, it's tank man!
As someone who has studied Ancient Greek astronomy, I’m not that surprised. They were highly sophisticated; it’s a modern arrogance that we think we’re so much more intellectually advanced than people in the past.
We’ve got robots landing on Asteroids Billions of miles away. I have more conversations with my friends across the planet than my next door neighbour. Humanity only started in the last century. before that we were just animals.
@@JGrant60 that's shallow af. I think there's nothing new in this world. Our customs and standards change, but 100 years ago there was probably a guy babbling about how humanity only started 100 years before and people before then were just animals. We stand on the shoulders of giants.
@@JGrant60 This is probably the most ignorant and pompous thing I've read in a very long time.
@@JGrant60 that's ignorant as hell
@@JGrant60 Scientist or mathrmatican or anything they call in the past are brilliance. Its just our time, their time in this world are limited. So we human just accumulate knowledge from what been discovered before to come up with newest technology nowdays. There are step to take.
Saying "animal" is such animal thing to do
I think it is totally conceivable that we will have another dark age. How many of us really know how to create and maintain the technology around us.
Made by Atlantean technology
Possibly, but we’re really too sophisticated for all of our technology to be lost and we go back to medieval times, because there are actually people who know how to make things, and machines and technology is so useful to us that it would be necessary to keep it around through a dark age as to not be at a disadvantage to everyone else
Those days only a handful of people or just one. Today it's millions of people. Until 90% of population is destroyed I highly doubt it.
@@jamesgabor9284 However, technologies we have are so complex that very few people know how to do it all. For example, an engineer might know how to make a building on paper and be certain that it will hold in place, but this engineer doesn't know how to physically build this building, where to find the raw materials needed or how to actually make concrete and steel. Without our complex economical society, most technologies we have are impossible to make
@@PG-3462 Yeah it really depends. Some stuff that's very widely used and had a large number of people trained in all aspects of their creation and use probably won't be forgotten. Stuff like the internal combustion engine won't be forgotten because loads of people have a good understanding of how they work. I think the technology at the cutting edge could be at risk of moving backwards though, because of how specialised it is. Like for the semiconductor industry, there's only one company in the entire world capable of building the machines capable of manufacturing the latest silicon chips. If a lot of that workforce retired before training the next generation, if the company went bankrupt or if there was some damage to the scientific record of their technology like by a solar storm then we could easily fall back ten years in electronics development.
It belongs in a museum
so do you
@@NoTimeB4 nah, he got it, that's from the movie too. the dude that stole the cross says that to Indy when they're on the Boat.
It's literally in a museum...
@@Jordi_Llopis_i_Torregrosa96indiana jones much?
You belong in my basement
Wow, the Antikythera mechanism i😍 It's incredible to think that this ancient computer was created over 2,000 years ago. I am so grateful for the fascinating discoveries that continue to amaze and inspire us
It is an analog mechanism that describe the solar, lunar and planetary movements visible to the naked eye. It's not a "computer", some clocks in the 17th century were already doing better...
@@jadawin10 OMG, do you even realize how stupid you sound? The Antikythera is dated to around 2 century B.C. and you`re saying that it was surpassed 1800 years later. It`s like discovering that the ancient Romans had cars and saying that we are better today because we have airplanes and space shuttles. I`m guessing your IQ is about half your shoe size.
How does the Antikythera mechanism come close to resembling a computer. Though I do believe there is nothing new under the Sun.
Imagine how many such artifacts are still undiscovered! And has impact on our understanding of ancient world!
or how many got discovered and thought to been something not old and thrown to the side lol
I’ve always figured we picked up on things too fast for this to be our first bout of technological advancements. It’s pretty obvious to me that we’ve come from something more than “hunters and gatherers.”
We also came from more then just a happenchance of a big bang.
Does this make you stop laughing at those Ancient Alien TV shows?
Me neither
If they had the technology to create that device, you can be sure that they had already been creating small machinery like that for years. There's almost certainly more devices like that to be discovered.
What's amazing is how people assume that we know everything from the past and underestimate the talents and abilities of the ancients. That they required extraterrestrial intervention for any sort of technology that surprisingly sophisticated.
It is possibly created by a crashed Alien. It (him/her/they) created this to know position of the stars so that they could find the shortest path to go home.
@Warren - You’re 1,000% correct! If it doesn’t fit they’re close-minded narrative, they disregard it. Along with TONS of evidence of a worldwide flood, fresh body parts on dinosaurs, finding villages in the coldest of places today, etc.
And I’m not saying aliens did it but the ancient Egyptians never once claimed they built the pyramids in hieroglyphs. Mainstream science and anthropology doesn’t want you knowing there was a more vast and rich history then they say
This somewhat reminded me of Horizon Zero Dawn... The ancients...
@@richardv9648 You all are dumb. This is a simple machine. It is not inconceivable that the Greeks were using gears and could have become modern within a few hundred years had the Romans not attacked.
who's here after watching Indiana Jones And The Dial Of Destiny ? 😁😁
Me
Yo. haha.
Wild
It sucked.
Me
Chris from the CZcams channel Clickspring has built a replica of the device using period construction techniques, all the way down to making his own files and drills from raw metals and making the dividing plates to accurately make the gears. He took a few years off of posting the videos after starting it, I think because he decided to make it a PhD thesis. He's recently started posting the videos again.
Being able to manufacture such a devise is almost as impressive as the devise itself.
Yeah, that's what people primarily underrate. If people thought of computers 500, 1000, 1500 years ago (and one can argue that every generation had mathematicians who conceived of "algorithms"), they simply wouldn't have the electronic/mechanical development to produce these in any PRACTICAL or mass-distributed kind of way.
Everyone has a smartphone not just because we have the technology to make smartphones, but because it's relatively easy to make millions of smartphones for cheap and every precursor to the smartphone since the first telephone and personal computer were also that way.
device*
@@user-ol5bj4dm2v basically what you're saying is that progression of knowledge does HAVE to happen in some kind of order, because seemingly if you try to just skip ahead of all the other things such as electricity, then you will lack the resources and understanding to successfully create what we know today to be a mobile phone or a modern computer.
i have never doubted human intelligence of the last few thousands of years, because really they're not much different than we are today on an evolutionary scale. i moreso doubted the historical fact that whenever we have had to start from "scratch" when it comes to a field of science, we have had always had to convince people that what you're producing is useful, or hell even just not useless.
(the introduction of religious faiths absolutely being one of the things which harmed the idea of useful production and human progression as it could very simply be substituted for FAITH which has literally never gotten anybody anywhere EVER in itself, and in fact with certainty caused the degredation of any potential sciences trying to be born within their faith based living.) --- basically faith had created a way to turn an absolutely use-LESS event into things which they find meaning and comfort in, just to stop exactly where they are and progress no further.
@@ImHeadshotSniper Not all faiths are the same and not all religions are the same and neither religion the same as faith. I will stop here about that because it will just devolve into useless arguments.
However, it is true that knowledge does not progress linearly, nor is knowledge that is developed kept. Just a possibility: Even though billions of people around the world use cell phones, if all engineers and scientists were to disappear suddenly, it is not likely we will have cell phones few decades later unless there is some record of knowledge.
@@classictutor i'm WELL aware that not all faiths are the same, however i strongly disagree that religion is not the same as faith. (i apologize that you wanted to stop there, but here i go devolving into "useless arguments")
i understand that there are other uses of the word religion, being "particular system of faith or worship" or the other definition "ascribing to supreme importance", and the common definition we know as worshipping a supreme being.
the thing that all of those definitions for religion have in common is its basis on faith in an idea. opposingly, i understand that a lot of my "knowledge" is also based on my faith in people who've obtained the knowledge.
the only difference being that religion is entirely anecdotal, and often fails the test of experimentation and evident proof, whereas my faith in "science", even if it prove itself incorrect later on, at least it has the ability to do so, whereas deistic based religions function entirely based on an initial set of assumptions, often a story with its own moral reasoning, and sometimes it is later "corrected" to be more morally acceptable, but never corrected to be proven to be any more factually true!
i was not very familiar with exactly what i was trying to explain so i googled it, and really i'm just trying to say that the only way you can truly "know" reality, is by logical inductive and deductive reasoning, because even if something greater than our sensory abilities exists, that is a problem that we need to solve by producing instrumentation with the ability to detect such theorized things
we all begin this journey of inductive and deductive reasoning with solipsism and the idea that we all know for sure that exists is ourselves (i think therefore i am type idea), and it is up to us to use our 3d reaction based bodies to figure out consistent, repeatable reactions that we can only then surely say we KNOW to be true.
of course if you choose to believe that even our reality isn't real (like simulation theory), i really think that's no different than believing that Heaven comes afterwards, because if deistic prophecies are true, then there literally is no point to achieving things and progression in our real life. that's why WE create purpose, and no invisible deity could EVER give purpose to our planet EVEN IF THEY EXISTED, because if they do exist, then they sure as hell have absolutely nothing to do with the continued survival of our species.
we could literally all be wiped out by a rogue planet tomorrow, there is nobody going to stop anything like this from happening, and just because it hasn't happened DOESN'T PROVE THAT THERE IS A GOD!
if we knew ahead of time that we were going to be wiped out by said rogue planet, there would STILL, and perhaps more than ever be religious people thinking that for some reason that the actions that they took in their puny pathetic life actually makes a difference in their "fate" after they've died. the fate is that we fade out of existence and our consciousness as an energy gets drained of what is required for it to survive.
i think this rogue planet example, and thinking about the fact that hell, even i'd probably suddenly become religious if i saw a massive planet coming towards our atmosphere, prove that religion and faith is a tool for CONFIDENCE (as well as control, and while i was just about to comment about how control was irrelevant to the ideas of religion and faith themselves, i absolutely think that there is ALWAYS a purpose to control people of a faith or religion.)
---the difference between my knowledge being controlled by scholars and scientists opposed to baseless faiths is that science has an incredibly strong base relative to religion, especially considering the fact that like i previously mentioned, science disproves itself, whereas if you attempt to "disprove" a faith or religion, you all of a sudden become defined as not being religious to said faith or religion.
If you delve into the history it's amazing how close the Ancient Greeks and Romans came to inventing steam power and likely kicking off the Industrial Revolution 1,700 years before it actually happened. Makes you wonder what type of world we would live in today and if it would be better or worse, if things like trains, machinery and electricity were invented in 100AD instead of 1800AD
Dig deeper.
It may have hastened climate change before we could deal with it. Metallurgy has been progressing this whole time (because of war, oddly the same reason this technology was lost 🤪) and the alloys to make it possible just came to pass. Electricity was definitely used around this time too, check out the Baghdad Battery. Again, 🥳 but couldn’t even do close to what we have now due to material sciences.
I like to believe it’s better it was invented later because world relations had time to develop more.
@@It-b-Blair The Baghdad Battery was likely used in electro-plating, that is applying a thin coating of gold/silver to jewelry and other objects. Which is fascinating in and of itself because someone invented batteries just to make shiny rocks even shinier.
As a side note, I read a theory once that metal-working was invented as a side effect of making pretty pots. Copper ore produces a lovely blue-green color and, undoubtedly, as a side effect of making potter glazes there would have been hits of smelted copper left over for the potter to mess around with in their free time.
Does the slow collapse of the Western world mean that we were almost about to invent something ground breaking aswell?
I'd be amazing to witness the events that lead to that device sleeping underwater for thousands of years. What happened to the ship, it's crew, where were they going?
They got transported to ancient Greece with Indiana Jones.
They were taken out by our immortal overlords who have been killing people who have created inventions since the beginning of time because its a threat to their control, obviously 😉
They stole it
Amazing. Thank all for working on this find.
Wait, this thing had an intact user manual?! And it was as kept with the original device all this time… most impressive 👏
Probably also included the entire schema and manuals on how to do the repairs.
Ahem, apple can take note #RightToRepair
Even Ancient Greece gave us a chance to read the docs
That'll get you a little extra $$$ on ebay!
*batteries not included
But did they RTFM?
Imagining my descendants in 2000 years finally re-discovering how to read the data from a hard drive, only to find that it contains a stash of dank porn.
I don't want to burst your bubble but how do we know it was the Greeks who invented it?
They could have found it somewhere else and brought it to Greece.
This particular gear wheel was a calendar (there is a documentary about it).
The gear wheel itself was actually invented by the Egyptians in Alexandria who, according to ancient scriptures, got the design from the Persians.
Before the Greeks "invented" the gear wheel they invaded Egypt. A lot of the inventions the Greeks take credit for are in fact invented in either Persia or Egypt. After Alexander the "great's" conquest of Egypt and Persia a wave of "new" inventions began to appear in Greece. Don't give yourselves too much credit...
@@professormoriarty6875 Yeah! You tell those ancient Greeks old son!
Sadly, hard drives wouldn't be able to last that long and retain its information. The first issue would be the length of time the hard drive was powered off. The second would be if you could keep it powered on occasionally, like once every few days, it may be able to last for a long time. But the issue is, something with the hard drive would fail before even 500 years. And the last issue would be, after having almost 40-50 people watching over it over their entire lives, there would be a possibility that someone would forget it in a box for decades, especially with age and forgetfulness. Thus information would get corrupted. That is very different from being able to see a 3d scan vs trying to 3d a hard drive to get information within it. Plus a powerful scan could probably ruin everything stored on it.
However, if it could be transferred over that time or maintained on the internet, first thing I would think is the possibility of it being my great great great great.... grand parents that have been long gone. Plus it may be used for education purposes, because incubators may be the only method they allow in the future with how crazy people are today.
@@professormoriarty6875 Imagine taking a joke so seriously.
Ancient Greeks were smart, so were ancient Egyptians, Persians, etc, I mean, they were all within a short distance of one-another.
Its not a D-measuring competition, I mean, if it were, the Egyptians surely win, massive pyramids, tombs, etc.
Calm your ego, its a cool device, and figuring out its origins is kind of the point.
@@professormoriarty6875 jealousy is something you come across very often when it has to do with Greeks.....you just have to swallow it or you may bite your pritty tongue....sometimes that hurts.
CZcams is like the coolest library ever
The way professor is telling the story, is mind blowing.
Amazing to consider how much technology has been lost or destroyed over the ages due to war or other events. Technology has frequently been reset by numerous civilisations. Gives pause to think our own advancements may one day be lost.
With the way our society is going because of leftist influence, it's very likely our civilization will have to be rediscovered just the same.
Supposedly we're moving towards one now
I heard someone say in the context of stocks, “given enough time everything ‘generally’ trends upwards. But given an even longer time, everything WILL go to zero.”
Idk, thought I’d share.
The things we make our technology out of will be around for a very long time. There will be plenty of evidence of our time.
Data Vaults in space…
So long as the satellites remain intact and working…
Well then even if all humans died one day then some civilisation later on will probably eventually gain access to the data stored inside them and push them forwards
"If the Greeks had understood their creation they would have reached the moon in 300 years"
Imagine that, the burning of the library of Alexandria and the collapse of the Greek empire stunted society and our world in ways we can only begin to fathom.
So true. It pains me to know how much information and history was lost forever in the burning of the Library of Alexandria. Tryuely saddening.
No need to imagine. People who deny science and willingly ignore facts walk amongst us. The pandemic has shown us that black and white.
"Greek empire"? Which one? Also, the Library of Alexandria actually wasn't that important. It mainly held astronomical and philosophical documents, which, while important to science, wouldn't be all that useful at the time. Most, if not all, scientific technologies within the library were already in circulation and known by many, of course these teachings and sciences remained localized in the Middle-East for some time, they found their way back to Europe eventually.
If you take a timeline where the Library of Alexandria wasn't burned down, you'd still find yourself in one where it was all but abandoned, as membership for it was in peak decline, and the city was likely to fall victim of one tragedy after another. The best scenario is that the library is looted and some ship travel to the Americas comes a few hundred years earlier, but that's about it.
@@kubectlgetpo Not sure how you managed to link those two topics together
@@FoxElliott Although you most likely are correct, I wouldn't completely dismiss the information that the library may have retained. Any philosophical information that may have been lost could be important as well as other forms of information such as the way they wrote, language, history, or people that may have been recorded in many of the books. Basically, we'll never know what was lost and that's the unfortunate thing.
Humbling and great job on video
A link to the full BBC Documentary would be nice.
In my opinion, the most important message comes at the end: knowledge cannot be taken for granted.
This belongs in an English museum!
@@jamescricketson9464 lol
Ditto. Especially at 6:30. When they question the speed at which the vaccines were developed in the last year...it's not linear. Fits and starts. The right people with the right resources in specific situations.
@@chemistclips make that 6:20. In fact, this would have been a great opening line too in my opinion.
@@chemistclips all countries can buy vaccines its so cheap like 20$ a dose no right resources necessary
Imagine the other undiscovered devices they made with this same technology.
Right. I believe the Greeks would create a large-scale technological project.
@@centenarium geeks more like
Devices like this are mentioned in ancient writings. Just ask scholars of classical antiquity on the subject. We knew devices like this existed. We just didn't have any examples that were preserved or survived to the modern day. That's why this was a breakthrough.
And the term computer is a little misleading. It's more like a calculator or orrery than what we think of as a computer today. The Greeks did not have modern marvels like the ones we know of, I'm sorry to say. That doesn't mean this device is unimpressive but it's not the high tech wizard device of modern flavor like the video implies.
I imagine there weren't many. This seems like the creation of a particular genius who's work and existence have been lost to time, not something that would have been widely available in any form. This sort of technology I mean, not the computer itself. There was certainly a handful of gear driven mechanisms of course. Like the doors on the temple of Zeus I think it was? Built to open with the pull of a lever from.. I forget, steam or just hot air or something. Point is, it was really cool, and would have left common people in complete awe.
@@PandemoniumVice Yes, these devices weren't used by the common folk. They were very expensive. Eventually, any on land would be melted down for other purposes meaning the only ones that could still exist are those that were lost in sea accidents, preserved by the sea, though decayed.
I love all "documentions" of this truly unique archaeological finds.
Humans can be smart.
Best documentary about this topic I’ve seen
When historians ask the wrong question: "How did these ancient people have this technology?" instead of "What technology did these ancient people have?"
the arrogance...
historian are just story teller 😅
Literally the same question with technology being the context here
Yes, like I recently heard (but has probably been known for a long time) each generation thinks that the previous generation was stupid (or at least not as smart as them.
@@TELEVISIBLEand humans are just inferior A.I in flesh
My grandad was an engineer, he made precision gears and cogs using hand tools. It was incredibly precise work that had very low margins for error. I assume that the ancient Greeks used similar techniques. Which means they would’ve needed precision measuring devices too, such as callipers and gauges. Which then begs the question, how were the measuring devices made? How long had they had *that* technology? What else was lost to the sands of time? What did they know/ discover? Did they lose technology/ discoveries on purpose? It’s mind blowing
Well, soon as the Christians came around all that stuff was heresy and devil worship so it got destroyed and the creators crucified. Between them and Islam declaring a war on science…. Yeah, this stuff was kept well hidden. I’d be curious if there’s been any investigation into the ships remains and if they could see if the ship sank due to poor chart reading or foul play (the former seems ironic given what the ship was carrying). Was it being delivered or fleeing from destructive forces?
i dont think the ancient greeks made it;i think they found it.
i dont think the ancient egyptions built the great pyramid either;rather it was there long before them.
@@danielslocum7169 you know we can actually date these objects really well, right?
@@danielslocum7169 so therefore, aliens?
@@pyongyang5304 very possible;or could be human race was far more advanced even before greeks,romans,egyptions. language may have even been passed down.who knows?
A very well presented documentary ... I really enjoyed that most fascinating piece of history 👍😊 I also went to kithira and got myself some lovely souvenirs...A very beautiful peaceful island
OMG this is amazing. Some how they had such knowledge. We can learn so much from our past
My Granddad is one of the guys who worked on the X-Rays seen in this video!
You can see him at 3:15 and 3:24 working with the machine. If I remember, he actually custom-built a good portion of the x-ray used to make the 3D models and was their main x-ray technician. I'll have to fact-check this next time I see him, but it boggles my mind that my family is so closely involved with works of history like these!
Wow, that is amazing. Do you have Facebook?
Lovely! Small world.
You should be very proud to be who you are and wear your last name with pride
nice like
I mean, anyone can say anything online and pretend but even if it is your grandpa, that really wouldn't mean much, looking at your playlists you're an apocalypse obsessed weirdo lol if that's your grandpa he probably rolls his eyes at you.
Everyone is surprised at the fact that the Greeks had this… I am too. However, I’m hell of a lot more impressed that we can 3D scan items and go in depth and simulate them, and read and puzzle the information together. We figured out what this thing was from a clump.
saurrr trewww
I'm definitely more impressed by the artifact itself, but I understand your perspective.
@@puppytooth.v6502 and i understand and like both of yours perspective, praising the past and getting astounded from the present
Yeah thing is we can still do all this today because of them😂.I always wonder how humanity would evolve if they wern't extinct
@Mila Brujic Your first point is correct, but your second is not. Arrogance is not confined to any geopolitical perspective. It is a human failing that we all have including you!
Exquisite workmanship.
And the same technology as used in watches, clocks, engines I imagine.
That’s the dial of destiny!
Just don't even. Awful movie , absolute trash.
I wonder if they’ll ever find another mechanism like this one. It really and truly is amazing. I’m so glad that they kept working on it and didn’t give up trying to figure out what it was. Just amazing.
I've heard other and more confounding things like this have been found.They are hidden from public scrutiny due to the fact that the false history we've been told would collapse.
They have
@@mikep4033 Any name or source?
Yes they had diffrent kind of world to us nowdays and so were intrested about the planets in our solar system and thats why the Greeks named planets like Venus, Mars or Jupiter with their gods and so intelligent Greeks created devices to see planets movement.
@@jout738 I want to see any more planets maybe could give them new names as well honored by Greeks
Many of these ancient devices are astonishing. But to Arthur C Clarke's quote, it's just as astonishing how many times humanity has seemed to pull back from our next leap forward.
We will never go forward. Not when ALOT of the human population believe there's an invisible man in the sky . We will stay.... feral .
Mainly because “dysgenics” is bunk science, just like eugenics. And you’re kinda proving Clarke’s point - we don’t advance because of the sycophants of pseudoscience.
@@priapulida We didn't ignore anything. Actual science has studied and debunked the incidence of dysgenic effects in human population. It's pseudoscience.
@@priapulida if you are insinuating what i think you are, then you are a disgrace
@@priapulida away back to your Klan rally, idiot.
Well it’s great that we’ve caught up and it’s wonderful that we somehow understand it
can it run doom
Anything can run doom with the right stuff 😈
Maybe it ran and then came the doom.
This is the kind of stuff I wish I would have been seeing when I was still young in school, the large majority of the modern information/science/history I know now is from my own personal research,truly blessed to be able to have so much knowledge at my fingertips
The reality is we don’t actually *know* a whole lot about the Antikythera mechanism. This video is mostly speculation and quite contentious nowadays - latest research shows Antikythera was used in fortune telling & astrology, not for testing scientific theories - so you can’t expect schools to cover it considering most syllabuses barely have time to cover everything we know for sure about the ancient greeks.
@@matthewvaughan8192 I still remember laughing at my teachers about ancient Egypt. We're fed nonsense by our education system. The erosion on the Sphinx is clearly from massive prolonged rainfall. That sucker is at least 12000 years old.
@@troymash8109 ‘’The education system is bullshit.’’
- People who didn’t pay attention in school and then go on to become conspiracy theorists & flat-earthers….because they didn’t pay attention in school.
Schools don’t teach the Sphinx-erosion hypothesis because there’s little evidence to support it and tonnes to the contrary. But let me guess, you tend only to think of evidence in terms of what you can ‘see with your eyes?’
@K Sometimes insults are the appropriate response, not that I think my comment was excessively insulting beyond the point I wanted to make. I actually did present an argument. Re-read paragraph 2. That IS an argument. Schools don’t and shouldn’t teach every unsubstantiated hypotheses you’ll read about in quacky books about Atlantis and Ancient Aliens. Just no. & Good for you if that’s actually true; doubt it, but there’s always an exception to the rule. I’m certainly not doubting the education YOU received was bullshit - or you wouldn’t have ended up thinking as you do - which doesn’t by the way mean the entire system is flawed.
Thanks malfoy. We are blessed to be alive today in the world
The Greeks and romans were very advanced civilizations, but mass production didn't come around until much later, so it makes sense to find such artifacts in very limited conditions and locations. Lost in time due to barbaric raids, natural decay, theft, etc.
Romans rather did copy etruscan, greek and other cultures
@@skenderbegshala3247 So true they even stole their gods and gave them different names
Every thing the Greeks learned were from the ancient africans from geometry, to astronomy, to building. To be precise the KEMITES
And they all followed ancient Bharat for all the knowledge.
@@whitneylanier8744 not really
Now we know it’s a Time Machine.
5:42 I find it very funny that they thought it necessary to edit fish into this part of the video. Like… did they think we wouldn’t believe this was underwater if there weren’t fish?
Edit: By popular demand here is the video produced by Stanford University. It is very much worth watching the full 2 hour video. czcams.com/video/xWVA6TeUKYU/video.html
There is another video on this subject which is a presentation given by the team who figured out what the device is and how it works. It's hours long and very technical but if you can stand collegiate material like that the video is simply amazing. It's the best kind of science that simply seeks truth regardless of what it means to our known history. This device really changes everything we know about the ancient world. Who was smart enough to make something like this? Why didn't they write about it more? Who owned it and where was it headed when the ship sank? Were there more devices? Fascinating topic.
Link to video?
If you "can stand collegiate material like that" why are you so ambiguous LMFAO
Gimme the sauce of that video
Link please?
Give us the link for god 🍶
The pyramids etc being attributed to ancient aliens really underestimates the ingenuity of human beings. This video is another example that mankind has progressed by itself
could not agree more. totally true man
Don’t sully their ideas of magic my friend. The fact that humans did everything they admire would hurt their need to admire their own orators. I tend towards just burning museums, and hoping I set something new loose.
Just beautiful. Life is amazing.
I like seeing all the comments about ancient technology’s just being forgotten over all this time. What if the technology was purposely forgotten/hidden. Makes more sense.
The thing about bronze objects is that they were recyclable. Unlike modern times, when we throw iPhones away into landfill, most bronze items would have been melted down when no longer required. That's what happened to most of the gold and silver of antiquity, and the bronze cooking pots, weapons and statues. A barbarian coming across one of these might have sold it for recycling.
@NITERAGERS - "You people"??? 😂 As if YOU are the ONLY enlightened one bestowed with all knowledge of which you've proven nothing??😂
Extraordinary claims require extraordinary proof and the onus is upon he who makes the claim to demonstrate its accuracy in truth.
apple have got a pretty good recycling program for their products just saying. but you are right
All our materials are recyclable - the main issue is that our products are designed not to be recycled, especially using a combination of materials that can’t be easily disassembled or sorted ☹️
An astounding discovery & you are droning on like a bore.
@NITERAGERS "do" to your unfathomable arrogance, your comment deserves to be mocked.
It's clear that our immediate ancestors (within the last couple of centuries) had a pretty poor opinion of the intellectual, scientific, and technological abilities of our more ancient ancestors. The more we uncover about ancient people, the more we discover that they were pretty clever all around. Indeed, if there is one Antikythera mechanism, then there were certainly more. As we uncover more details of our very earliest ancestors I'm sure we'll discover that they knew much more about the world than we ever imagined. The Antikythera Mechanism reveals as much about our modern prejudices and ignorances about our early ancestors as it reveals the genius of those ancestors.
I think it reveals that Europe might rather be new to this and is the dominant civilization today. But previously, for a long time it was not. I won’t be surprised if this was made in Morocco or somewhere in Africa.
Just have a look at the Egyptian pyramids and you know we are not that special. The people from the past deserve much more credits than we gave them.
wohoo you understood guys the history is a lie that we have been taught to and Jesus Christ is going to pass judgements on this wicked earth soon, congratulations guys! :D now please give Jesus what is His, that is you! repent from sins and accept Him as Master and your savior, believe the gospel! and start a relationship with Him!
@@lt3742 Wtf are you talking about you lunatic?
because our human history is based at christians believe. history cannot go further then 6000 years. everything must be rewritten. because there is evidence that humankind was already advanced before 6000bc
Well it was found on a ship wreck so they need such a device to not only predict when to travel but probably help with the navigation at the current time
Im here because charlie, this seemed super interesting! Ty charlie ❤
I am not too surprised. We just seem to assume that all the beautiful Greek buildings, temples, theatres were built (almost) accidentally? They are still standing after thousands of years! Of course the ancient Greeks had sophisticated engineering / mathematical / physics / cosmological knowledge. Hopefully there will be more discoveries like the Antikythera Mechanism.
Just what I thought. It is no big deal to make gears and found out, how count of tooth is connected with number of turns. I believe they had primitive machines with gears already, so someone just made them little.
That’s Science for you
This device was from the 1700s it was from a different shipwreck that happened in the same spot!
No one thinks they were made accidentally. All the things you named are made of stone and marble. Of course they'd last.
Working with stone goes back much further, as good as the Greeks were at it. A clockwork mechanism for predicting the motion of the cosmos using a sophisticated system of gears and hands is entirely unheard of in artifacts from 2100 years ago. History was completely changed by this discovery; it's just that not many seem to know it.
The skill required to fabricate flat sheets of bronze to cut the gear wheels out of is impressive. It would be interesting to see if the gears are cut by drawing them and cutting or by using a tool which could rotate and cut a tooth at a time? If they could make this then surely they could have made mechanical clocks?
I don't think time was such of an important element to everyday life like today, they cared about days only. Hence why they didn't bother making clocks.
@@nobytes2 Time keeping and clocks are important to any civilization. They had very sophisticated water clocks with gearing ,that would even have birds singing when the hour changes like a cuckoo clock, but a full mechanical clock requires advances in metallurgy and a proper escapement mechanism that was not invented yet. On the other hand, the technological and scientific level of Antikythera device would be equaled again in 1356 almost 1500 years later (the wallingford clock) .
The idea of a clock and a catchment may have been missing. That was quite a breakthrough concept.
I imagine they would carve moulds and then pour the liquid metal in to them? Would be much easier that cutting the metal sheets.
might be but they don't really need a precise time-keeping during those times and if they did a sundial would have been more practical
The most incredible discovery I've never heard of (until now I guess)
I dont think its astonishing at all, its just that our ego today is much larger and complacent, that we fall backwards in shock at anything complicated in the distant past. We focus too much on our mind, and have left the heart behind, not realising that it is in fact the driver of our car.
The existence of stuff like this always fascinates me, and implies that maybe, just maybe, Our ancestors were far more advanced than we remember.
Check out Bright Insights two videos on the Eye of the Sahara, aka the Richat Structure. Its some crazy interesting stuff.
They were both advanced in their technology and their spirituality. They were far smarter than us. We are the dumbest civilization to ever exist.
Why maybe lol it is definitive.
@@akioarnold6746 They didn’t reach the Moon, we did. Claiming we are the dumbest ever is just as irrational as it is to underestimate their intellect.
Actually the average student knows more than Einstein did
I've watched a video and it contextually said something like, "we like to think that ancient people were crude because it makes us think and feel good about the progress we made". And somehow, that's true about the general assumptions/stereotypes we make about the vastly mysterious ancient world and concluded that things like these are impossible in their time.
I think it's vastly more helpful to think of the past as different countries rather than different times. Still full of people, just in a different situation. I think the temptation to think of people in the past as less smart or enlightened is all too great. They were just like us, even 10,000 years ago. Evolution takes a really long time to change things, for the most part. We've been this way all along.
@@TheSolitaryEye facts.
Humans haven’t been around long. I’d like to think we have similar personalities, ones like our ancestors. Similar hopes, innovations, & dreams.
@@casanova1838 we're fatter, dumber & weaker than our ancestors
@@grandunifier3169 I agree with you on that lol
Truly remarkable, it is an amazing mechanism, a computer it is not, an analogue calculator is a better description.
Went to visit this today on my visit the Athens - its truly astonishing in person
it's not hard to imagine people having ideas far ahead of their times, only never being acknowledged in the written record. i'm sure there are many instances like this, we'll just never know about it.
Did you ever wonder if gggee I don't know someone from another planet far away need this to travel at a rate of speed faster then light.
Maybe its more then a calculator.
Maybe it's a navigation system.
Why else would you need to know when a planet will be?
Maybe because in space you can't travel in a straight line.
I don't tho I'm just high as a kite
I once invented the spork, but I didnt realize it already existed 🤦
This is probably the 10th time steam power has been invented
And when we tell you that flying machines existed in ancient India......
you discard them by calling them *myth*
Even the whole mathematics & knowledge of Ayurveda was invented in ancient india. You can find evidences of Brain surgery & open-heart surgery on some age-old papers which didn't rot for thousands of years. There were also arrows which were described to be mass destructive (which could have been some sort of nuclear technology)
But due to numerous wars, cultural solubility & Nepotism in Knowledge sharing all of these led to disappearance of all of the ancient knowledge.
Not only in India, but ancient China, Japan, Iraq-Iran, Egypt have various kinds of ancient mysteries.
I mean it might be possible that humans were technologically advanced at some point of time then everything got reset due to reasons unknown.
@@just_a_curious_thinker "when we tell you"
who is "we" and who is "you" cus i know you're not talking to me
They didn't mention one of the most astonishing things about this machine. It made accurate predictions one where the stellar objects would be on a given date... while working from the idea that the earth was the center of the universe.
There's a longer documentary on the recreation of this object that explains how they managed to work out the movement of all the known planets, sun and moon with a single mathematical equation.
it was going through my mind wether this device was designed with a flat or ball earth in mind and/or wether it would be just as accurate at 180 degrees from greece?
what do you think?
every point in the universe is the center of the universe. There is no center technically , so the opposite is also true here where any point in the universe can be the center. Its relative, its a rather neat fact about the universe as well! take a look into it.
Many Greek philosophers espoused the heliocentric ideas as well as a spherical earth. Most obvious case is that of Eratosthenes who in about 200BC (?) got the radius of the earth pretty well right. Pity that someone in 1492 was just so ignorant!
You cannot work out the movement of all known planets sun and moon with a single mathematical equation
@@davedee6422 most people are far dumber today than the people back then, tousands of years ago finding out the earth is a planet, not a disk. If we lost internet today, our world would be doomed
completely astonishing
Astounding. I'm glad to see it is now being returned to its former glory, so to speak.
Greek astrologist 2,000 years ago: I'm 4 parallel universes ahead of you
I'm greek, and I remember we visited the archeological museum in Athens back at elementary school. It's really fascinating to see in real life!
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It never caught on in it's day because the public sometimes had problems with it. When asked about the difficulties, the head of the company, Caesar Jobs, replied "You're holding it wrong".
What else have we not found? Whether because it has been completely destroyed over time, or because it has not been discovered. It's also worthwhile remembering that the more time passes, the more objects will be degraded or hidden. I also wonder why none of these objects have come down to us above ground?
A lot and the reason being what stands the test of time, is stone, not metals. Earth will soon wake up to the realisation of how advanced ancient civilisation in due time.
1. Metals where way more valuable back then (bronze/brass) so it was often repurposed
2. There was not much interest in the space and reasons for things (Gods where made up to explain the unexplained) it's way easier to say "because god" to everything, and explain every question with "god" especially back then where almost everyone was religious, so these precious metals in their eyes had better uses than mapping our solar system. Researchers also believe this "computer" was a gift to a greek lord who was a astrology nerd. They could make a sun rotation calculator or use the metal to make 50 spear heads, 200 arrow heads or 1000+ nails to build charots, horse shoes or homes. That's my guess atleast. They lived 1 day at a time and focused on getting their next meal and worked 24/7 unlike us that have evolved into a living where you have much more time to be in your head and become curious and research and explore stuff less important than living.
@@juuk3103 I'm sorry to say you are quite wrong. Ancient civilizations were very interested in space and astrology. Theres numerous accounts to this.
It makes me wonder how much further we would’ve advanced as a civilization if this (and possibly more of them) had *not* been lost at sea?
It’s like he mentioned, we probably would’ve been reaching for the stars by now
I bet a robot STILL wouldn't be doing my job.
They keep promising.
I keep waiting.
@@thebrowns5337 You don't want a robot doing your job for you, because then, you're useless to society and we can get rid of you.
lol u mean, without sky worshippers we would be 2000 years ahead. If u stop progress, things usually don't progress much. Its funny how CONservatives act more like commies than anyone else
@@AvesZephyros Robots can do some jobs but they can't do most
This is a great find that shows the brilliance of people millennia ago, but it also shows how everything can be forgotten in time, no matter how great or expensive it is.
@@priapulida Sadly most people's decisions are not based on facts, but on feelings.
the lost and forgotten part hits hard I must say
Neat tech That's brilliant to see such an ancient civilization playing around with these kinds of calculating machines
Amazing! I wonder if ancient technological advances were snuffed out by various religious orthodoxies or wars.
In Greece the culture wasn't affected a lot by the church like western Europe because the priests themselves are greek and greeks knew the value of progress.
About wars yes a lot i.e arhemides was killed he had more to offer than just war machines
no. It were the Romans that stampeded it. They saw technology for military advances (archimedes planetaria were cleverly used against the greek superstition of red eclipse being a bad omen) but other then that, the Romans weren't very interested in it at all. they saw the greek's study on mathematics and geometry rather as a waste of time; except for Cicero himself that even paid homage to Archimedes' grave and acknowledges the Greeks achievements, yet tells us by his own words that the Romans in general have no interest in them at all.
yeah, the Greeks used steam power to automatically open doors of their temples, Archimedes invented a steam power canon 1,5 millennia before the Chinese invented gunpowder.... problem was... Romans came and their notion of mathematics and science was that other then warfare was a useless endeavor. (the famous Roman Cicero pointed this out rather clearly). And then when the Romans got their arse wiped by the Germanic tribes; they had even less interest in the philosophers and knowledge of the old. In fact, funny enough most of what we know of these ancient brilliant Greek philosophers is through the Arab world; as they pretty much were fascinated by the concept of the library of Alexandria and copied it's concept in Bagdad... until they of course got beaten by the Mongols and some Imam rose up that said that work in numbers was the work of the devil; which pretty much ended the golden age of science in the Arab world.
Yes to both
yes. multiples
So some Greek mathematician whipped this up however many years ago and today in these modern times I can still only do one side on a Rubiks cube?
My future generations of relatives will be back in the cave in no time.
you are precisely perfect
A “machine” that was way ahead of its time.
Really though….it was the individual that created this majestic masterpiece of a machine who was way ahead if his time!
As a software developer im not surprised at all by mechanical discoveries like this, I think these guys are unqualified to talk about how technology 'should' have been.
4:55
This is considerably mind blowing... If only those ancient Greeks knew the potential of what they had created.
He's being hyperbolic
Yeah only a little exaggerated but the truth is the world would not be the same as it is today if they understood the gravity of the technology they created. Everything would have advanced much much faster for western civilization.
@@mattyice2099 maybe they did and their civilization fell before they could realize it. Genuinely wouldn't be shocked if something like this happened thousands of times over millions of years
@@mattyice2099 They would be able to date it to a time period much earlier than that of Ancient Greece if that was the case wouldn’t they?
@@Alec_RTR He is implying that it is possible more scenarios like this has happened before, but the technology has been destroyed by time or nature.
When the ancient artifact slips through the cracks of control...... imagine how many other artifacts there are like this out their that are hidden away in boxes.
@DEZZNUTZ 1001 thank you for opening our eyes on global conspiracy deeznuts 1001
@DEZZNUTZ 1001 like what?
We only need to keep the proof that support our current theories. The rest we can just destroy. That way all evidence wil support what we deem science
Can you imagine "losing" that instrument back then? It must have been devastating and kept us from advancing. There has to be more than one.
Wow this is mind-blowing, i would love to see if it was rebuilt
Over 2000 years ago 😮
It is one of the most fascinating items in all of history. The knowledge behind it, the construction of it and to make it work properly with any modern machinery or tools. It’s hard to wrap your mind around this.
I think it was used by the educated class that could predict and dictate religiously significant events to astonish plebs
I mean if any 1 of those gears is out of wack, the timing will be off. Even Rolex watches go out of accuracy after few months.. this thing had to been precise
@@SketchyKirbymechanical watches only. Quartz are infinitely more precise
The ancient Greeks certainly had the mathematics to build such a device. Seems they had the metallurgical and engineering expertise too.
It´s about the conception to even build a device in the first place.
@@klausbrinck2137 It probably means many other devices came before it.
@@klausbrinck2137 Greeks were quite on to it I find it quite believable wether it's a clock or compass it would g definitely helped them in travel whoever posseded one
Indeed. Not just the Greeks but also other ancient civilizations like the Indus Valley. Read about Wootz steel- a pioneering steel alloy invented somewhere in India. Now the technique is lost. Several scientists have tried to revive it but without success.
wohoo you understood guys the history is a lie that we have been taught to and Jesus Christ is going to pass judgements on this wicked earth soon, congratulations guys! :D now please give Jesus what is His, that is you! repent from sins and accept Him as Master and your savior, believe the gospel! and start a relationship with Him!
You didn’t account for continental drift!
What if ancient people were indeed having advanced technologies and they might be already exploring the universe but after they left, the earth was disaster stuck only for us to findout these technologies in excavations today
We are definitely missing huge chunks of significant technological and historical pieces of our timeline. I wouldn’t be surprised if we were way more advanced than we imagined, thousands of years ago, or even hundreds of thousands of years ago.
The technology that Aliens introduced to us.
@@cancel.lgbtq.6892 ????
We had this class that these business people came to and we each had ideas, my idea was regarded as stupid and I got a low grade, basically I said a game boy game system with built in phone and small tv. It may have been stupid but then I think about how advanced cell phones are, and their features. It wasn’t an exact cell phone but I wonder if those business people think back on that “stupid” idea.
Yes , the The library of Alexandria .... Hypatia 🥺.... so much knowledge lost ..... ☹️
@@cancel.lgbtq.6892 aliens being the only answers white colonists can think of when they heard of a "walking" easter island head
I feel like at this point someone in the future has invented time travel and just keeps popping up in the wrong years and is dropping knowledge/technology that keeps changing the timeline
Could be a possibility 😉
Nah lol
Someone’s been watching too much Rick and morty
It's actually me, I'm the time traveler
@@RealParadoxed you mind popping back in time and telling my younger self to buy cryptos lol ?
Anybody here after Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny?
fantastic and intriguing