5 Reasons People Hate TRIVIUM
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Trivium quickly rose to some fame with their earliest albums, but soon found that with fame comes the ugly side, too. Many fans just love to hate Trivium, and even though I've been very unkind to the past three albums, its because I genuinely feel the band can do better. But others have far more personal or silly reasons for despising Trivium. Lets examine 5 of them. - Zábava
Conclusion from this series: Everybody hates every band ever.
Nobody likes anything.
People always shit on everything thinking their life is better its so pathetic
+coverkillernation you should do one on the almighty... Mastodon (or why people love them)😉
mastodon is HIGHLY overrated.
+Daniel “S” Lahner I really like Mastodon, but can totally understand why someone wouldnt
Am I the only one that enjoys every Trivium album?
with me
No, me too!
even Ember to Inferno is nice!
very few bands or solo artist do i actually like more than 2 or 3 songs and its the opposite for Trivium i only dislike a handful of their songs
Im with you!
It's possible to hate trivium?
I love them, they are my favorite band!!
+I just like Metal So ya my favourite band as well
+Jay D Ya people are haters...
no they arent,they are one of the bands you like,dont become a fan girl.
+trillriff-axegrinder Fan Girl? Lol good one XD
What makes this band great is that they aren't afraid of going new directions. Each album has a unique sound and vibe to it. Call it an "identity crisis" or whatever you may like, but they are not just churning out Ascendancy for each new release.
Nobody hates Trivium, they have nothing bad about them
Landon Rocker exactly
unfortunately a lot of people hate trivium for stupid reasons
Yeah. Probably the "hail underground-hail satan" type of idiots.
Trivium is a constantly evolving band. They are extremely talented and aren't going anywhere anytime soon. Fuck anyone who thinks otherwise!
chaos8585 TRUE AF 🅱🅾ℹ
5 reasons people hate the ENTIRE Metalcore genre.
You trying to make him do a BlackMetalWerewolf? :P
Well, one is that it's easy to associate the entire genre with the bands that fill every emo kid's wardrobe.
I'm personally not a fan of the genre, it's just not my thing, but there are a couple of bands I've heard that I think are okay, and I wouldn't say the entire genre is just bad.
+The Sickness
He talks too fuckin much
+The Sickness
He's Canadian ...
+The Sickness
Therefore, when it comes to why Americans hate anything, he doesn't know what he's talking abOOt
Trivium is so fucking talented that I could careless why people hate them.
5 Reasons people love....
I'll give you a hard one: Limp Bizkit
+Jenocide Majins Ya know whats worse? I like them but would love to see another's reasons.
+Jenocide Majins finnaly someone who doesn't hate limp bizkit
Bizkit's first album was actually really nice
+Ezekiel Herrera It was all good till Gold Cobraz. It had it's ups but boy, weren't 4 bein more downs, it would have been a solid album. Still can't wait 4 the next album, hopefully later this year, or the start of next.
Their early material sounds like Metallica?
*Listens to Pull Harder On The Strings of Your Martyr*
Nope, that sounds nothing like Metallica, try again CKN.
Listen to The Crusade, that has a lot of Metallica influence. I still love it though
He's listening things that people say, not his personal reasons, and commenting on it. I think The Crusade was a direct Metallica ripoff, but any other album is not.
Jordan Gallaher well their first show was a talent show where they played master of puppets
shaka_lutherking haha try again. I adore Metallica, but Crusade's riffs are More Creative and technical than anything met ever made
shaka_lutherking I don’t think it was a Metallica ripoff. I would say “influenced”.
Top 5 reasons people hate Dragonforce.
1. They can't beat through the fire and flames in guitar hero lol
good thing i can
I don't hate dragonforce but I can't listen to them thanks to guitar hero. fuck you guitar hero. Listening to everyone play through fire and flames over and over.
Only idiots play guitar hero. Go and pick up a real guitar and play the Ignominious and Pale solo.
@@corruptedarcher1564 not even Herman Li. He tried and failed at 2% of the song.
Is it just me that thinks Acsendency was a blinding album? Blows Shogun right out the water!! Too many ppl talking like Shogun is their best, dont f*&%ing think so!
What is this crap idea that sounding similar to another band is ripping them off. Everyone has influence they emulate, and there are only so many notes, cords, scales, and ways to arrange them. Furthermore; if a band is broken up, missing in action, or in the case of Metallica drastically changed there sound, I WANT another band to come along and fill that stylistic void.
mikezeitgeist2 theres a difference between being influences by and being derivative
I don't think someone wearing a Crade of Filth shirt can say that Trivium is a bad band.
Trivium is fucking awesome!
You missed the point.... I know this is an old comment, but he was just saying reasons why people may hate them. Not that he hates them.
Cradle sucks lol
It seems to me that Trivium has been getting better live since 2008. They used to be trash live. Solos aren't always great. But the shows are pretty good xp overall.
Ascendancy was definitely a studio magic period.
Yeah, each of them has improved tremendously since 2005, especially Matt, he was pretty terrible up until 2008.
Peter Parker
Dude practices religiously; although, the dad solos seem to be here to stay. lol
Jrocka7x That just shows dedication, I remember watching them perform Dying in your arms on the Ascendancy tour and it was awful.
+Jrocka7x trivium is my second favorite band and to me shogun is a fucking masterpiece
I love Trivium lml
because you dont have music taste
+Died Of Society What?
+Died Of Society No, because he likes the music.
+Died Of Society He/She does have music taste, their music taste is for Trivium. If you mean to imply that there is some universally accepted standard that constitutes 'good' or 'bad' taste in music then I would be fascinated to see the universal constant from which you derive this. In reality all anyone ever means when they say someone's music taste is bad or lacking is a foolish way of saying "You don't like the same things I do".
+Died Of Society or maybe because they have an opinion?
Fun fact:my oldest brother's friend used to drum for Trivium when they started out
Travis Smith?
In Waves is a metalcore masterpiece.
Top 5 Reasons why people hate Marilyn Manson
5 good topics for 5 Reasons People Hate:
1: Metalcore
2: Black Metal
3: Death core
4: Sevendust
5: Opeth
#5 has been done
+coverkillernation I must have just missed the video then. I'll have to take a look.
scope out the 5 Reasons playlist :D
+coverkillernation I checked out a few in the last couple days, mostly bands I listen to sorta regularly. I just watch Opeth and Death Metal (which was hilarious)!
+Morris Bristow nice! thank you.
Till Shogun they had balls with their music, i enjoyed all their albums till that period then they made them more mainstream but with some good songs here and there, as for their new album i like it a bit now it has grown on me.
Well hopefully the next trivium album is more like ascendancy
If you think dusk dismantled sucks you are a Justin Bieber fan. In waves as heavy as fuck songs. Not all of them are but still.
Songs post shogun that kick ass; dusk dismantled, chaos reigns, shattering the skies, skyline severance, black, in waves ,slave new world (sepultura cover) inceneration (broken world), villainy thrives, strife, dead and gone.
Go out and make your own fucking music if you don't like what you hear and find out how difficult it is to achieve their level of skill. Fucking metal elitist are everything that metal isn't about.
Agree. to me the whole "in waves" album si gold!
MELKOR "go out and make your own music" is the truest thing I've seen today, well said bro, kill the elitists
Respect
Trivium has a place in my soul as they started my interest I to heavy metal with Ascendancy and The Crusade, and I really loved Shogun and In Waves. But damn do I feel betrayed by their last 2 albums.
You mentioned Disturbed several times. Why? They're just an irrelevant hard rock band..
So... Do you like Trivium or not? It's hard to tell. I agree, everything after Shogun went a little downhill. But... In my opinion, In Waves was a very good album. In fact, I see a lot of Trivium fans on CZcams specifically, who believe In Waves to be their favorite, and their best album. I enjoy EVERY Trivium album. But... I believe after In Waves to be where they sort of lost themselves. I find some songs on their last 2 albums to be very enjoyable, but overall, they aren't the albums I listen to.
I had the same sentiment. I still think there is too much David Draiman on VF for me to listen to it, but Silence is pretty good after a while now of listening to it. They described it as modern classic metal, which makes a lot of sense now that I know the album. Some songs are merely ok, while others are great. I think they or maybe their label wants them to write more radio type metal to bring in more $$.
agree 100%
Julian Boyce Hmm. Yes, i can see that.
Yeah I feel the same...everything after Shogun....meh
I met a guy who said he hated Trivium, he told me I should listen to "I wrestled a Bear once" so.... y'know.
BTW "IN WAVES" was post "Shogun" and that album fucking rules.
I I saw Trivium live with Arch Enemy. They put on a good set. Not really my thing when it comes to metal music. But still all and all not a bad live set.
OHHHH Good god Your joking???
IWABO is the shittiest most retarded band ever..... Im not saying Trivium has been good latley, but Triviums first 4 CDs alone destroy anything IWABO will ever make
dude ive been a fan of them from Embers came out and they are always amazing as can be every cd is different in feel and showmanship and thats what keeps them good is cause they can do it all
Another great video. Keep it up!
I saw them live last october and it was INCREDIBLE. They hit every note and Matt's singing was excellent, the mosh pit during "down from the sky" was unbelievable. Got to meet them backstage as well and they were all really nice dudes.
@AutismoGamer Damn 6 years later someone replies to this comment, figures that you have Autismo in your name, because you are definitely on the spectrum responding with a dipshit reply like that.
Okay so like, I listened to Trivium before I even had internet and thought they were a Metallica clone.
I agree 101% with the post shogun comment......and I have a Trivium tattoo!!! That I got pre shogun!
A pretty huge Trivium fan here but I have to say this:
Every time they do interviews they're like: "Oh we're just a heavy metal band" "Our influences are Iron Maiden and Pantera and Megadeth" yet in every song when the clean chorus kicks in it becomes obvious that they're heavily influenced by 2000's nu metal/alt. rock movement (Slipknot, Deftones, Papa Roach etc.) that was almost universally hated by "true" metalheads. You're not "just a heavy metal band" bruh. I hate it how all these "metalcore" bands deny their obvious influences just because it's not cool to like nu metal.
It is inevitable to hear similarities in music of the similar genre. I have always loved Trivium and still do today, they are trail blazers and if they are influenced by those bands you mentioned, they're doing a way better job at producing good music than any of them.
Matt has said that In Flames is one of his favorites bands ever. You clearly haven't seen much of their interviews. Besides that, by saying "influences", they may be reffering to what bands inspired them to make music. I think they say they're just a heavy metal band because it is so much easier to say that than have to explain every single "genre" their music can be considered.
Trivium has a song called "Iron Maiden" as a tribute for the band...
you can't claim to know their influences, the only people that know who influenced their sound are the band member themselves.
+REGISZILLA Know your roots, it's a cover not a tribute song, it's originally a Maiden song from their first album...
I'm almost 40 and I like Trivium. I don't think that they reinvented metal or anything, but they're a decent band. Their studio albums sound fresh and tight. The Metallica homage doesn't bother me either. I was never a fan of growled or screamed vocals anyway. So if Matt Heafy sings in falsetto, I wouldn't care.
Nice...my old band Bombbreeder opened for them...was a great show with a great turnout....their stage manager tried to cut our set short...so we played a 5 minute song directly into a 7 minute song and made sure we fulfilled our 30 min slot. Good times.
I have an intriguing one for you. 5 Reasons Why People Hate Black Metal
Because it's stupid
Because its elitists fans who think anything other than Black, Thrash, or Death Metal is "not real metal"
I don't enjoy most Black Metal because of it's satanic focus (Yes, I am a Christian.) and some bands just have vocals that cannot appeal to me.
One reason is it's full of elitist pricks
+Lord Metal I know not all fans of black metal are elitist but I seen a lot of them are
Love Trivium. Saw them live in 2012, it was one of the best days of my life.
You should do 5 Reasons for limp bizkit. Bet it would be priceless
1. They have taste
+ima fagit good point
There's gonna be much more than 5
What song is in the background?
Trivium used to be my favorite band. Once they lost Travis Smith it went down hill from there. They're kinda picking back up again, but they will never ever top ascendancy.
I honestly think they peaked with Shogun, but Embers and Ascendancy came at a special time in my life when I was going to metal shows every weekend. When Roadrunner Records was doing the Road Rage tour in 2005, I went to several of those shows (which had two shitty bands and then 3 inches of blood and Trivium) and that was right when Ascendancy was big so I definitely have fond memories of hearing those Embers and Ascendancy songs often.
I do agree with the top reason. I got into Trivium in 2013 when Vengeance Falls first came out, and I still love that album and play my busted case copy of it to this day, I was really disappointed when Silence in the Snow came out last year. This caused me to explore more of their older stuff like Ascendency and the Crusade which I now find myself listening to quite often. While Vengeance Falls is still my favorite Trivium album, I think that if I had started with Ascendency, that would probably be it instead.
bro where did you get a thornography cof t-shirt ?
You are spot on, I did enjoy In Waves, it had a bit of their heavier style, and a bit of their radio rock style. "Built to Fall" ruined them though, I feel like they strive to make every single song as radio playable as that. Their last 2 albums have been garbage all over the place, very boring riffs, some songs have potential to be awesome songs, but oh yeah "screams wont work for Trivum" anymore. On the Shogun DVD Matt said they pushed themselves to make their best work, they must have used 100% of their creatives juices on that album because nothing since has been anywhere near as impressive instrumentally.
John Perini What about now... The Sin and The Sentence? IMO that redeems them again. It’s fucking brilliant.
@@wonaldgrump9654 sin, deadmen and itcotd are all bangers imo.
Why so many dislikes? CKN wasn't saying that he himself hates them.
I will say that shogun was definitely their best album, silence is probably their second best. One major problem is that they keep firing and hiring people into the mix, and that can disrupt the flow of the overall band, and I mean, you can see how that happened with Megadeth, their best albums were during the 90s because they had a stable lineup. After that things got really haywire after firing nick menza and letting go of Marty Friedman, and then sifting through dozens of new players. Honestly, if trivium wants to be truly great, they got to find a good and stable lineup, and find a consistent sound. Shogun and Silence are both good in their own right because both have really good content, but sound completely different. Trivium is literally trying to sound like two different bands, and that in it of itself is enough to create a split in their fanbase between the hardcore complex songs of shogun or the melodic and mainstream sounding songs from silence in the snow
Ascendancy > Shogun
Vengeance falls was one album that took up quite the extended residency in my car's CD player, something about that album that I could just drive and sing along to that made my trips go by quicker
you should do 5 reasons why people hate killswitch engage. Because I honestly don't know why their perfect blend of melodic choruses and hardcore verses make them one of the greatest of this current era of metal
I love Trivium, they will always be my favorite band.
Long time, die hard Trivium fan here. Yup, they reached a glorious pinnacle with Shogun then began soaring downhill.
I saw Trivium live earlier this year. The audio tech messed up the vocal volume a little, but other than that were great.
Their latest material doesn't shine a lot, but Shogun is still in my personal top 10 favorite albums of the 2000's.
I was just wondering if you could do a mash up. 5 reasons people hate / love King Diamond... I personally love the King, I grew up loving him. I like that each song can be listened to individually but each album tells a full story.... thanks, love your videos
CKN: #2;They became popular
Me: REALLY NIGGA?!! I dont even listen to Trivium, but that has to be the dumbest reason to hate a band I've heard this year!!
Just looked at their page, sound ain't 4 me, but in terms of being popular, Mushroomhead and Cannibal Corspe have them beat in terms of views
+Jenocide Majins Which song did you try?
+kevin willems I know, but it's a stupid reason to hate a band. Thats the same mentality that make the community so self-destructive, like who cares if HU has more views than say Cannibal Corspe for instance? If you like it you like it no need 4 jumpin ship at a certain point in popularity.
***** Do you like heavier music? Because I can recommend that you try listening to any single released off of Shogun or Ascendancy.
+kevin willems True my nigga
I remember loading up the RRU DVD and what was the first thing you heard ... mhm ... that is gone now ...
I can understand why people hate them. Personally, they're one of my favorites. I've seen them twice. First time was amazing, they played well and the crowd was into it. The second time was good but the crowd wasn't into it because they were there to see Volbeat.
whats on his t shirt?
I may be wrong I may be thinking of another band sorry for the confusion
they have definitely found their identity with silence in the snow.
I totally understand the identity crisis issue, and with people thinking they are becoming stale. But what exactly is wrong with making a different sounding album each time? I think that's what's keeping them relevant. And despite the differences on their post shogun material, the sound and writing style is still distinctly Trivium. I honestly have not yet found another band that sounds just like them, at least enough to really argue that their sound is "stale"
seen them 3 times, not noticed the inconsistency,liked old material better, but not hate them
saw them twice this year and they killed it both times. one show the whole floor was a pit for an hour and a half
I really don't understand how people don't like vengeance falls. Love that album
Hey ckn have you ever heard of pitch black forecast?
I saw them live in 2016 and holy crap they were amazing all the tones and everything was awesome
i saw them live at a metal festival here in Denmark and it really felt like they didnt want to be there.
They gave a energy that they were just playing the songs they were payed for and then just get the fuck out of there.
I don't know much about this band other than their last album flawless, but I like bands when the "crossover" and actually sing melody!
I don't hate Trivium, I dislike the turn they took with The Crusade being too alike with Metalliica, but even from Ember all the way to now with the exception of that album these guys got it nailed
They did a pretty good job at Motocultor 2015, at any rate.
5 reasons people hate AC/DC?5 reasons people hate Bullet For My Valentine?
Didn't think many people hated AC/DC or BFMV?
I've literally never heard Trivium but here I am
I'd like to see Periphery. Maybe after their album is out. :3
Yeah, I see them get crapped on for a lot of stupid reasons. Same with TesseracT.
+Andrew Malphurs TesseracT has the misfortune of having a suckass vocalist but aside from that they're pretty cool.
Dan?! But his vocals are amazing! Ashe isn't quite as good if you're talking about him.
I've only heard bout to or three songs. Not sure which singer I was hearing but his voice sounded really thin and whiny.
Probably Ashe. Listen to One or Polaris but preferably One. I think you'll be more impressed.
Loved this band when I was in grade school. I still listen to Shogun and Ascendancy from time to time for nostalgic reasons.
shogun only felt peaked since they tried to make it complex but they don't care about that as much as overall improvement and they're already talented they've proved that and they've always changed little things they like that and appeal to many different types of people
I know that they got a pretty good rising in the beginning, but i had never even heard of trivium until a couple years ago. If they were so popular, how was i the first person I know to discover this band?
Trivium is one of my favorite bands of all time. I don't care what others say. I'm going to be a die hard fan for a long time.
Saw them (and met them) last october. They were very good, and played songs from just about every album.
reason #6) they inadvertently stopped production of any further releases from Crotchduster.
Trivium is amazing live now, seriously they have all got so good live. Do yourself a favor and see them live.
Strife is the only song I could no doubt jam to. But no other songs really reach to me like that one
As a ten-year fan of the band, I disagree with the statement that "In Waves" and "Vengeance Falls" were bad albums (though the latter DID have a little too much of Draimen's influence). "Silence In The Snow," however, was definitely a weird album that I still have trouble really getting into. Hopefully, they turn it around with the next one, if Matt learns to scream again.
I agree, silence in the snow would've been a lot better with at least a couple of screams
The time I saw Trivium, and it was AMAZING! They were fantastic, but i have only seen them once.
Because they have never been able to get out of their identity crisis. Sounding like every other metalcore band, then Metallica, then Disturbed with heavy riffs, then an 80's rock band with all clean singing. Only recently have they been able to "slightly" get their own sound.
I've been a trivium fan since crusade and I've liked every album since:)
i think the thing with trivium is every album changes drasticlly and matt has changed his vocal style and it isnt brutal anymore with there recent albums
All great points, and I feel equally disappointed that they squandered their own success with their steady decline in quality since shogun
In waves is not only my favorite trivium album but my favorite album of all time. I think it is the most diverse(vocally mostly) and emotional which is just what I personal love in an album which I guess just means it is perfect for my personal ideal album, however I have only listened to the deluxe version which might be having an effect on it. I can't even believe this is a thing, I honestly never thought it could be a real thing to hate trivium just wow......oh almost forgot......red hot chili peppers!!!
i was asking myself about all the thumbs down, and then this guy said "post shogun materials sucks''....
People hate Silence in the Snow for some reason it's one of their best albums ever
No his name is James I'm not sure what his last name is though
I feel they came out of the metalcore. But i wouldn't class them as metalcore, first and second album.
i know trivium for a few years now.. and i liked them..
i saw them live the first time this year and since them i LOVE them !!! such an awesome, sympathic, great band with so much potential ! i see no fucking reason to hate them
having listened to trivium for some time and seeing them live once I will touch on two points you made about why people hate this band. First off the metallica sound. I don't think trivium sounds like a metallica clone however I can understand people saying this especially if one of the few songs they have heard from the band is "poison, the knife, or the noose." The first 90 seconds of this song sounds like it could of easily been lifted off an old school metallica album up until it gets to the chorus and that was exactly what it reminded me of the first time I heard it. It doesn't bother me though. With metal having been around for so long with so many spin offs and genres it's expected that at some point a band will put out music that sounds like someone else. And second, I will mention their live shows. I've only seen them live once and I thought they sounded pretty good. I would say my only knock on them live, which is something I experienced first hand as well as seeing numerous live videos, is that they are seriously lacking energy on stage. All they seem to do is stand there and just play. This is little to no effort to work the crowd or get them excited for what's coming next. The whole show is literally them just standing in one place playing while the crowd just stands there in one place listening. It's kind of boring honestly and a metal show should be anything but boring.
I personally think popular mainstream metal tries to sound way too "anthem"-y. It's an evolution of the early 2000's metal scene trying to make tracks that get into your head but aren't necessarily good. Unfortunately, instead of trying to carve their own stream, they just listlessly float along the great river. Why? Because its current flows faster.
Do people not like in waves? That's like my favorite album, though it's hard to choose exactly which is my favorite
I'm a fan of Trivium and I always defend them but I agree on some points. When you put all the albums next to each other, yeah, the last two albums have sucked. On their own, they are alright, but in comparison to the rest they do fall short. I Waves was a good album and the last one that really got me excited. I still buy the albums but I don't listen to them as much. I don't know why they want to simplify the sound. That's what made them great. You can take the screaming away, fine, but at least get the guitars to sound like they used to.
I was told they were from where I live but they're not so the person who told me this is probably thinking of another band and that's why I'm not too sure
The tickets are not that expensive for a trivium gig saw them this year and they were really good
have you done why people hate my chemical romance?
You are right. Most new sounds aren't that surprising.
I saw them live , it was really really fun and just all around great.