SA 2024 Election: What's at stake?, Civil Society and 2024, A Black Afriforum? (with Tessa Dooms)
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- čas přidán 7. 08. 2024
- Guest analyst Tessa Dooms explores the role of civil society in the 2024 election, the importance of voter mobilisation rather than education and the need for a Black Afriforum. Comment down below if you agree or disagree!
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CONTENTS
00:00:00 - Introduction
00:00:51 - State of political landscape
00:03:00 - United Democratic Front & Democracy
00:08:50 - Coalitions & The Voter
00:27:06 - A Black AfriForum?
00:36:05 - Mobilisation & Resources
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About me: Dr Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh is an author, scholar and founder of the Sizwe Mpofu-Walsh Xperience (SMWX), a digital, youth-centred current affairs platform. He holds a DPhil in International Relations from the University of Oxford and is a Lecturer in International Relations at Wits.
I think SA has the most sedated middle class in the world. I totally agree with you
Sedated is just the word. Couldn't be more accurate.
We are trapped by extreme factionalism which of course benefits our politicians. They deliberately blind us into and they know it. Any ounce of reasoning flies out the window. I support Voter Mobilisation 100%.
Absolutely brilliant analysis and proposals for our broken democracy.
This is something that needs to be taken forward.
One of the best episodes on SMWX.
Brilliantly done Tessa.
Not even broken democracy but non existing democracy 🤞
she is a breath of fresh air....i like her mind
Particularly enjoyed the part about "Voter Motivation".. as youth, we have to realize we have strength in numbers if we take action.
True.
Agree about strength in numbers but how do you stack that against the diversity and fracturendess of various groups, peoples and cultures in just this one country?
I like what you said "there is more power in getting one rand for a million people than a million rand from one person, think creatively about what you do with small money, small money is more important than big money, act with urgency and don't expect sponsors, don't wait for anyone's permission, we black people must be motivated by the politicians, government who don't care about us to do more
I have always thought that this suggestion is our only way out, am ready to pay that 50 rand a month to a credible formation 🤞🏾
You are speaking the truth and young ppl need to here this. Stop blaming the govt and do nothing. Time for young ppl to standup and vote to change all these nonsense caused by greedy parties holding back the country for 30yrs. Time for young and fresh mind to take over.
Agree 💯
@phumlamazibuko 3oo3, What you saying is the Naked truth. I mean it has been quite a long time our children being respectfully aloof hoping that the elderly my age will do the right thing teaching them how responsibly the Gvnment should be run, (I'm saying my age bcs I'm over 70 years of age) now to our shamefully astoshment they did what wasn't expected of them to do as Elders, as parents, they stole and did exactly the opposite, self enrichment they got into the Gvnment World beggars, today they are not even ashamed to be identified as billioneers not even millioneers, they are not even remorseful, they are corrupt to the core and by the look things they are so Insatiable and showing no signs of repentance. Now i 100% in agreement with the sentiment that young people must forcefully remove thieves out of power, they messed the whole country, NOW ENOUGH IS ENOUGH, YOUNG PEOPLE TAKE OVER THE GVNMENT THIS IS YOUR FUTURE.
I love what you are doing with the Channel ❤❤❤❤
Thanks! 🙌🏽
Ive never felt so heard.
Well spoken ..apolitical tone yet very political.
Tessa 🤜🏿 well said and Spot on.
BLF is the "black" Afriforum. So much so that the real Afriforum once got BLF deregistered.
Please get Andile Mngxitama on the show 🙇♀️
andile will only come in and say, malema this, malema that....but i love love andile.. he just needs to focus on the real issues and stop holding grudges with his fellow blck people....but he is a very smart black conscious mind...
@@fin2-em2mf if Malema is all you hear then you are missing the message and he is not wrong for pointing out why Malema is a danger to us because the first cardinal pillar in EFF manifesto suggests land will be expropriated conditionally. Go read how it is phrased.
@@kago.s Let EFF expropriate what they can....then people like you and andile will expropriate the rest...
Brilliant analysis!
Definitely right we do need Black Afriforums that will support all Black people in the world, with the money it makes and churches shares money and insurance, policy money's
dare I say, Malema and Floyd are the closest to have come in building and equivalent to Afriforum.
Decent livelihood should and must be restored ❤
Love this!🙂Incredibly good speech. Listening to it in bite-sized pieces over the last few days. Well done! Tessa Dooms. Some great ideas! Any chance some of it could be made into 1 min sections that can be shared on other social media platforms, if not already done so? It might be more effective in getting some of these great ideas out there. We really need change, because what we have it not working.
What you saying is not new,how you said it made me to pay attention,thank you for being a voice causing change.
Thanks for your membership. 🙌🏽
Thank you Tessa for opening our eyes. We need to take back our power now.
Great stuff!
I whole heartedly agree with you Tessa. i had the same though running through my mind just after the election of the president.
AfriForum, is there for black and white people.♥🙏
Let's not lie to ourselves
Excellent idea!
Agreed, we need our afriforum
Great idea on us as voters coming together and not seeing elections as an individual activity. Collective power makes sense more if we have to hold politicians accountable
My gratitude to you Tessa. I've learnt so much from this, more than I Thought I knew. I love the concept of 1 rand from a 1m people.. Not the other way round. What absolute brilliance. My only concern is can this information be taken to those underprivileged in shacks without the means... I suppose that's where mobilization comes in. I pray and hold thumbs for your spirit OF ACTIVITY and insight. ❤❤❤❤❤
Black Afriforum? Save it where? They'll just close your bank account.
And eat the money...
What a best analysis..❤️❤️
Tessa Dooms is a gem for us as civil society and voters in South Africa. This is a wake-up call for all of us who had this biased approach to party politics. We need more civic education as a community to take our power back. The NGO sector during Apartheid always had civic education in communities. Post 1994, the ANC government changed the international donor landscape to curb the support for civic education. They knew between 1990 and 1992 that they had their list of duties on what was to be done. We honestly cant let the X be abused to enrich themselves.
I believe the moonshot coalition is the best hope for us. We need to work together for the common goid of the country.
Why not join the existing Afriforim and them a stronger speaker for all of us.
Wont have a voice in afriform if your not white ....So your competent and upright of character great ... still no say for you
Beautiful house, Congratulations....i hope u enjoy Ur stay in the Motherland....welcome to South Africa 🇿🇦🇿🇦❤️
The topic 🎉🎉🎉🎉
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@@_SMWXCapr Town Colored people voting DA need to stop vilifying black South Africans. Its politicians of any color who are opportunistic Satanists.
Damn 🎉Sister 🎉you spot on and unpacked it all❤
A forward looking forward thinking attitude is an absolute requirement. No-one can change the past we can only build a better future by bring focussed in what we want our lives to be like going forward despite the the mess this government is creating. We desperately need our kids to be well educated and to be able to think for themselves. Afriforum's success lies in staying focussed on their goals in the here and now. A good example to follow.
Honestly very interesting, have you guys considered starting a radio station? According to PWC radio still reaches 88% of communities in rural areas?
Well articulated i think wen we casted ur votes in 1994 we thought revolution has come 2 an end Gosh wat a surprise in the 30 years of DEMOCRACY.
One wonders who is listening to you Tessa? I hope the listening leads to pragmatism. ACTION!!!!!!!
Wow 🙌🏾💪🏾
I strongly agree with you Tessa, this toxic Political Stronghold we all feel, must be done away with on a civil societal level, Politicians wield far more power than they should.
I also strongly agree with you, Political Leaders somehow come across as clumsy idiots, but they are highly technical guys, with even higher, technical teams, Political leaders are extremely calculating, they clearly understand South Africans are relatively stupid, unscrupulous Political Machinations, Pronouncements and Rhetoric get's the job done.
I also agree with you, voters are stupid, and they are kept stupid on purpose, Politicians won't conscientize voter's, it's not beneficiary for them to do so, it serves them no purpose to do so, i agree the responsibility is civil's.
Lastly, im not yet sold on the idea because,we aren't new, to black sellouts,i also don't have anything to lead me to believe, just like Politicians, robber barrons won't infiltrate these societies or their leaders, until i see this unwavering leadership at display, it will just be the snake taking a new form or wolf in yet another sheep's clothing for me, because, those currently strangling us,will continue doing so with their new proteges or stooges, let us see it at work on a small scale, before we roll it out on a wide scale.
Lol. This 🙌 Hit home and rang TRUE.
But please, I'm part of the electorate but I'm not stupid😂 That was quite sharp
Edit: Stooges??😂😂 Haven't heard that word since high school. We are in serious trouble with you.
But on a serious note, there is a lot happening behind closed doors. That if we knew, we'd wake from our not so blissful slumber.
@@JabsMajozi Apologies are in order Juzerrr,about the way i came across, izandla phez'kwekhanda.
It was Dr SMW, who created this platform, blame him, for shedding light, on these pressing matter🤣2chè, i to, agree with you.
I believe you missed "relatively", i meant (Cumulatively), meaning, very few, in essence, understand, John Steenhuisen when he speaks about being centre right, or Julius Malema when he speaks about Nationalization than those who don't, a vast majority don't have depth of understanding or meaning of that all powerful X.
Amen.
Ayeye 🔥
I am grateful to find someone whom I consider an intellectual who agrees with my silent thoughts of starting a Black Afriforum. So, who is going to start it?
YOU MUST START IT (I'm joking but I am serious)
I salute you🫡❤
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Revive Azapo maybe
Count me in on Black Afriforum. I'm happy to contribute provided the Black Afriforum won't be another organisation to protec the current status quo. I'm definitely voting EFF in the next election
"I'm definitely voting EFF in the next election" EFF hate our Afriforum and then you support a black Afriforum, I am confused? 🤔Please explain is this apartheid?
In Africa, we create the monsters then, the monsters become to big and powerful, at the end spiral we fear them being created by us through our blind loyalty.
Personally I think it is impossible to be apolitical, one takes a stand at some point, whether aware of it or not. But I agree, there is a wave of depolitisisation going on lol
Peace and Love Tessa Dooms, I am behind you.
Tell me when and what bank shoul i pay the R1, lets do it. . . To bail on us now. . . Its about time
Please, share this link as broadly as possible via all media platforms.
A Black Afriforum!!! 🤯
Knowing how well Afriforum has done. Its a copy paste with minor adjustments for more inclusion.
Please take my money Tessa for suck an organisation.🙏 Brilliant!
Shoo 😮💨 🖤 🔥
The murders of Abahlali Basemjondolo made me realise that the ANC are Afrikaaners in Black skin
it is spelt Afrikaner
@@ronelpeens7366 Whatever. Afrikaneer or Afrikaner its all associated with negativity
@@ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 why, i am a kind Afrikaner. i voted YES in 1992
@@ronelpeens7366 Whatever
@@ndwandwewasendwedwe7964 very racist for no reason ..enjoy your bitter life ok
I love Tessa but can't help feeling her plea for politicizing & reclaiming political power is impossible within a system that commodifies every aspect of life. Politics was bound to suffer the same fate of extraction and repackaging for easy consumption wherein there are insiders and outsiders. Our politics are a result of the moment within which we find ourselves and hankering for a past that never shall be is not the solution. Modern-day problems require modern-day solutions our discussion should be about reimagining this collectively and not selling an idea imagined by a select collective. This idea that we are "back in 1985" was responded to in one of the public debates she was partaking, I am disappointed that she persists with the analogy.
Lol. Let me disappoint you. I think we are kinda in the same situation as the 1994 electorate as well. 😂At least I'm not going back to 1985 though.
On a serious note, I think she is just trying to point out that SA has a history of credibly switching things up. In a dramatic way. And that we won't be the first, and therefore we shouldn't think we are incapable.
I do agree with you that every aspect of our lives has been commodified. I won't even talk about the political sphere.
Unendlebe nje unetyala.
Sitsho ngaph'e Nquqhu.
Is there a white Afriforum?
I agree fully with the caption. And the EFF is something very close to the idea. But we need a very strong lobby civil organization
"And the EFF is something very close to the idea" 🤔really! 😮
@@nedor64 truth....its just that you hate malema, personally...so you cant see his vision..you are clouded...unless of course you are a boer..then i would understand why you dont like malema..
@@fin2-em2mfFirst you idolized N Mandela then you call him a traitor, now you idolize Malema which is a fraudster so I am waiting for the day you call him a traitor as well which will be sooner than later.
@@nedor64 Wait, when did i idolize mandela??? i dont idolize malema...but yes if he doesnt follow on his word he would have sold out...its as simple as that...and the way he is moving nowadays fighting for the same arabs who hate blck people ,worries me , i dont like it...
@@fin2-em2mf "Wait, when did i idolize mandela???" I hardly know any black person that did not idolized Mandela before and after 1994. You said "And the EFF is something very close to the idea" I suppose that is a black Afriforum. Why do you think Malema would embrace a black Afriforum?
i like Tessa but sometimes civil society is very disingenuous, she talks about engaging politicians about things society needs from them but EFF every election calls for society to participate in its manifesto formulation but non of them go and participate why? she talks about civil society not wanting to be politicians but head of rivonia circle Zibi which she is a director has gone and formed a political party and expect people not to be suspicious about their motives. some of her suggestions are things being done but they are done by a political party they just do not agree with. donations are easy but first lets get the middle class to openly declare which party they support without fear of losing anything. plenty middle class that supports EFF but cant say it on twitter because are afraid.
Good luck black afriforum ,maybe the penny has dropped hello anybody still home
Wow The Black Afriforum concept is a brilliant idea❗️
But the EFF is actually our Black Afriforum.
Well Afriforum is admired because it grouping of thinking Afrikaners. Who amazingly, their vision over the years has moved from protecting Afrikaners/whites to protecting the rights and seeking justice for all of the country's citizens - black or white. This indicates not only vibrant intelligence but also capacity to evolve as human individuals. I can see a black Afriforum indulging in victimhood and propogating BEE and the stealing property from the South African white citizens - lots of sentimentality and no thinking - incredible level of laziness if you ask me. Add the fact that the majority of the citizens vote with their hearts you can be sure that they're going to give the ANC, which is committed to humiliating and robbing them of a bright future. You will be surprised to learn that even the most learned black person's life is governed by superstition and obsession with the past. We revolutionary thinkers who have managed to go beyond skin colour who can work not just talk and talk.
is anyone aware Afriforum helps coloured and black people ?
More pro and effective to their own people we need a pro effective black "Afriforum"
AfriForum was established to serve and protect minority Whites' interests. Hence they are against amending Sec 25 to enable Blacks easy access to most important economic resource, Land.
si@@mphoneluvhola3059 so start it!!! that's what the afrikaners did.We don't blame and wait for others to do something.Just get pass the racist glasses.We as afrikaners are really getting tired of this blame game now
They can stop it, thank you very much. We can do with help from those who love us than from our enemies.
@@mphoneluvhola3059 The saying goes "Charity starts at home"
Well, get on with it.
NO Tessa!!!! We absolutely DO NOT need a black Afriforum. We have the EFF and they are brilliant. They are perfect but they are on the right track to restoring the dignity of black people as well as the glory of this country.
Don't you perhaps think the first test for any real black unity is being able to agree on something outside of political affiliation. Why can't both the EFF and a Black afriforum? We need a non-partisan organization that will be able to reach people outside of political affiliation. An organization that will not be possibly be beholden to internal party politics and dominant personalities. The DA and Afrifrom co-exist very well with each other. They can reach places that the other cannot reach. We can't have anyone party being too drunk on power.
@@mncemngunivalid points
Afriforum is not racist. They stand for righteousness and fairness. So by all means join them.
I agree and so is the eff 😂
Best option, join them....
Get a life buddy
only a fool will believe that
Whats stopping you forming a black Afriforum
Black forum exist
Blacks must not split their votes in 2024, if we want to succeed in changing our lives. ANC is definitely not an option. We need to amplify the EFF.
From bad to worse? I am giving up, what you said makes me believe more in the Afriforum idea and what they do for me.
@@nedor64 That's your democratic right. The are determined to fix SA and the entire continent. We are not nursing feelings here, the masses are drowning in abject poverty.
@@nedor64 focus on afriforum...and we will focus on the eff...
I though you were Zimbabwean.
@@fin2-em2mf Not a problem, you can focus on EFF and us on Afriforum, at least then we develop separately which we said from the beginning is the solution to this country's problem. With the uncontrolled migration from Africa to Europe those Europeans realized they had a problem and that separation was the only option to prevent racism and majoritarianism.
at some point black people are gonna have to have the uncomfortable chat about those of us who vote simply along racial lines vs those willing to give a chance to qualified and motivated leaders who's driving factor is a prosperous and well managed country, instead of plundering more than the previous lot.
we cannot continue down the path of denialism about the ANC's true nature.
The only only hope for you guys in SA is EFF
Disagree
No ways I disagree
Hey, madam I can feel your passion, but I am sorry you are failing to speak to an average Black citizen like me. I dont know but your language sounds foreign and DA like. I dont feel you at all. You are not talking African politics. You are talking DA politics - you are too elitist (Western?) in your approach😢. All the best.