Breaks my heart to hear her say one thing she's learned is that what's gone is gone, one just has to move on. Nobody at that young age should be in a place where they have to say that from experience. Life's so unfair to Monica!
Not fair yes, but not "so" unfair. So unfair would have been her breaking a leg, then a collapsed lung, followed by insomnia. Get a brain. I love Monica, but stop it with your ridiculousness.
@@markuse3472 I would suggest your poor example of "Monica breaking a leg, then a collapsed lung, followed by insomnia" (which is quite a chain or events by the way) being more unfair is totally wrong. If any of that happened it would be because of some other circumstance in life, genetics, bad luck, an accident, NOT because a crazed fan of her rival ran up behind and stabbed her while she was seated on a changeover.
@@waynelee7421 A crazed fan is irrelevant. Unfortunate unforeseen things happen to all. Seles got lazy, tired, or overcome by lack of motivation: her doing, even though it was unfortunate.
Always a special place in my heart for Monica. She's a great player and a fun person. She did overcame a lot, the eating disorder was tough. Its amazing she was top 5 player for so long with her condition.
The triumph for Monica is how she came back from tragedy to resurrect her tennis career. After being out of the game for over two years, it was too hard to return to her 1993 form but we are just happy that she came back at all.😁
Tennis won't be the same without Monica and Steffi.. did anybody know about Monica and Steffi relationship currently. I never see their meet each other in exhibition or something?
Steffi was never close to almost anyone on the tour and definitely never close to Monica - to the extent of not showing real care of Monica's recovery after the stabbing. On top of that, she's totally abandoned the world of tennis to the extent of not even showing up on the WTA's anniversary where all number ones in history were invited.
Interesting to note Margaret Court is even more abandoned and detached from tennis since retiring from Steffi. Neither really had much of anything to do with tennis when they retired. Steffi atleast follows the tour some and keeps informed what is going on, Court barely does that.
Most athletes in competitive sports are not friends. Their friendships come from other players and from other sports. Its just the way it works. They get along as respects respect, but other than that you didn't see Agassi being friends with Sampras, nor Hingis with Capriati, nor Serena with Henin, nor Jordan with Carl Malone, etc., etc., etc. What we want is Totally different than what goes on in their minds. Both are lovely ladies though.
Steffi Graf is my favorite player of all time, but I feel so awful for Seles. What happened to her should not happen to anyone. She was so sweet and humble. Too bad.
I am sure most of 1990's female players were decent people, but since only a few stand out, those are the ones we remember most. Steffi, Monica and Arantxa all seem very decent and humble people.
Right? And Graf was robbed of the possibility of regaining her #1 ranking through fair competition. Their rivalry had become a classic already and would have been even greater.
@@markuse3472Arantxa Sanchez was not a fair or humble player. She was a bit arrogant and argued almost every close call. She was the first and the most vocal of the players to not give Seles the #1 ranking in her comeback
@@Munkyjoe1 Then it appears Sanchez took every shot very serious, as it should be: it is their lives and careers so it makes sense. No one knows if the umpires and lines people wanted someone specific to win: tennis is Not a clean sport, just like ANY other sport, they are all dirty.
The sad thing is that only 2 players in the top 10 prior to her returning in August 1995 voted for Monica to be co-ranked no.1 which was Gabriela Sabatini and Mary Joe Fernandez. The rest turned their back on her which was said and gutted Monica. That is why Monica always spoke highly of Gaby and Mary Joe
@@pinkballoon8181 You are confusing it with the poll among players in Rome 1993 (!) about whether Seles should keep her #1 ranking after the stabbing. All players present in Rome voted against it, only Sabatini abstained. Steffi was not in Rome and so did NOT take part in that voting. When Seles was ready to return to the tour 2 years later in 1995 (!) there was not much (open) controversy about Seles getting a #1 co-ranking. Steffi even explicitly supported that decision. However, Selestial a**holes still try to smear Steffi with lies about these points. Well, that's how those people are. Pure skum.
It's sad that Monica had to go through so much pain and traumatic experiences. I think if she was not stabbed her career would have surpassed Margaret Court. However we will never know. As for Steffi I think she really wanted to be No. 1. I know it's not her fault that Seles was stabbed but I think Steffi could have made an effort to make it right with Monica such as keeping in touch with her and working together by uplifting each other up and being a friend and a sincere college in the game. I think their relationship would be better. Sometimes trying to care is better than not caring at all. I am sure Steffi cared but not so much. She took the opportunity in getting the number 1 spot and winning more grandslams because she wanted that spot so much. Therefore that rivalry of Seles and Graf will always be controversial indefinitely. You will never see Monica and Steffi doing an exhibition together or even being in the same day and time in a grandslam event doing some collaboration and commentary. That history brought so much resentment especially on Monica. She may have move on but the pain and the memories will never go away.
Such a sad story it s such a shame for her, tennis and us fans to have been deprived of all the matches the Seles/ Graf could have been it should have been the 90's rivalry like the Navratilova/ Evert of the 80's instead of boring matches because Steffi worked so hard to catch up with Monica that when Monica was absent she didn t have much opposition .
"such a shame for her, tennis and us fans to have been deprived of all the matches". Yes the tragedy was for the public of tennis lovers, the immense loss of all the potential matches Seles should have produced. And it's not just the Steles-Graf battles. Seles, even after the stabbing, could have avoided wallowing in self-pity and obsession with revenge against the aggressor and the unfair German justice system. Instead, she could have given absolute priority to her self-preservation as a top tennis player, getting back immediately to training and competition. Exactly as Petra Kvitova, another left-hander, did after she was stabbed in the hand by an intruder. Petra's injuries on her playing left-hand were even more serious than Monica's. Nonetheless, with more mental strength, Kvitova was back in action 5 months later. By contrast, Monica wasted 2 years and 3 months in idleness and junk food binging, wasting the precious growing years between 19 and 22. It is still hard to understand why her father/coach did not interfere to save his darling protegee from self-destruction. Had Seles's response been more mature and less juvenile, she could have gone on being a contender in the 2000s until age 35-36, around 2009-2010, She would have figured in all the rivalries with Henin, Sharapova, Venus and Serena, and all the other top-10 players. This is what the tennis world lost, and that is the real tragedy.
Add a comment… Nigel McKenna 0 seconds ago Monica Seles came back to tennis under very tough circumstances. For that to happen to you in a public arena in front of a large crowd how do you deal with something like that? She was still a competitive player on her comeback, but a few new players were entering the scene, including Martina Hingis, the Williams sisters and of course Steffi Graf was still there... God bless Monica Seles
Monica was at her best in 1991/92. In those two years she lost 3 of 4 matches against a slumping Steffi, two badly so. Her only win was a 10-8 in the third set (FO 92 final). 88/89 Steffi was far, far, far better than Seles ever was. Only Selestial nutters and the usual US Steffi haters would say otherwise. Thankfully they are in the minority and Steffi is generally seen as the greatest ever world-wide.
That is stupidity. They were both professionals. Both playing women's, not girls, tennis. They had been playing tennis since little kids. They had both played this whole tournament, beating others away from the tournament. They played the final match of the tournament. Steffi won. Celebration is a must. No other player in tennis REALLY believes that "stabbing" was what made Seles not win more slams but one afterwards, no matter what they say. It was a little cut, nothing more.
@@markuse3472 I agree with you 100% on the main point. But calling it a "little cut" has no impact whatsoever on Graf's exultation at winning a grand slam, which was the justification of her whole life. There's always a loser in those finals. After all, Seles won the 2d set 6-love, and if she had won the match, she certainly would have exulted even more than Graf. It goes with the territory. Coming back to the seriousness of the wound, in fact, in her two books, Seles never shows the report of the two surgeons she flew to visit in Vail only two days after the stabbing, Dr. Hawkins and Dr. Steadman, at the Steadman-Hawkins clinic. And she remained always vague about the physical data (muscles, tendons, ligaments, nerves, etc.) of her wound. No doubt, most probably for the preservation of her image as the unfortunate victim of an evil fate, highlighting the irreparable damage done to her psyche, and damping down how irrational, weak, and irresponsible her response to the attack had in reality been.
she looks like DIVA FAVSTINA the minor wife of Marcvs Avrelivs Roman emperor ...her mother was born in Pannonia (hungary) in roman coins and statues ....well best tennis player ever to me
Such a beautiful and humble human being. Thanks for posting!
Yes.
Breaks my heart to hear her say one thing she's learned is that what's gone is gone, one just has to move on. Nobody at that young age should be in a place where they have to say that from experience. Life's so unfair to Monica!
Not fair yes, but not "so" unfair. So unfair would have been her breaking a leg, then a collapsed lung, followed by insomnia. Get a brain. I love Monica, but stop it with your ridiculousness.
@@markuse3472 I would suggest your poor example of "Monica breaking a leg, then a collapsed lung, followed by insomnia" (which is quite a chain or events by the way) being more unfair is totally wrong. If any of that happened it would be because of some other circumstance in life, genetics, bad luck, an accident, NOT because a crazed fan of her rival ran up behind and stabbed her while she was seated on a changeover.
@@waynelee7421 A crazed fan is irrelevant. Unfortunate unforeseen things happen to all. Seles got lazy, tired, or overcome by lack of motivation: her doing, even though it was unfortunate.
What a sweetheart and incredible player she was
I always believed in monica i knew she would come back and her first ever game back was awesome. Monica your a legend and my personal GOAT
Always a special place in my heart for Monica. She's a great player and a fun person. She did overcame a lot, the eating disorder was tough. Its amazing she was top 5 player for so long with her condition.
The triumph for Monica is how she came back from tragedy to resurrect her tennis career. After being out of the game for over two years, it was too hard to return to her 1993 form but we are just happy that she came back at all.😁
Absolutely. She could've been too traumatised to make it back...
She was never stronger than in the first 14 months after her return.
Sadly then injuries caught up with her. Her dying father also was a big burden.
Seles forever...
Forza Monica Seles...
Goat
Tennis won't be the same without Monica and Steffi.. did anybody know about Monica and Steffi relationship currently. I never see their meet each other in exhibition or something?
Steffi was never close to almost anyone on the tour and definitely never close to Monica - to the extent of not showing real care of Monica's recovery after the stabbing. On top of that, she's totally abandoned the world of tennis to the extent of not even showing up on the WTA's anniversary where all number ones in history were invited.
Interesting to note Margaret Court is even more abandoned and detached from tennis since retiring from Steffi. Neither really had much of anything to do with tennis when they retired. Steffi atleast follows the tour some and keeps informed what is going on, Court barely does that.
Most athletes in competitive sports are not friends. Their friendships come from other players and from other sports. Its just the way it works. They get along as respects respect, but other than that you didn't see Agassi being friends with Sampras, nor Hingis with Capriati, nor Serena with Henin, nor Jordan with Carl Malone, etc., etc., etc. What we want is Totally different than what goes on in their minds. Both are lovely ladies though.
@@ignaciollanosgonzalo7317 Can you tell the date and venue of this WTA anniversary meeting?
@@markuse3472 Good point. Competitiveness is the dominant drive and dictates feelings and emotions.
Steffi Graf is my favorite player of all time, but I feel so awful for Seles. What happened to her should not happen to anyone. She was so sweet and humble. Too bad.
I am sure most of 1990's female players were decent people, but since only a few stand out, those are the ones we remember most. Steffi, Monica and Arantxa all seem very decent and humble people.
Right? And Graf was robbed of the possibility of regaining her #1 ranking through fair competition. Their rivalry had become a classic already and would have been even greater.
@@markuse3472Arantxa Sanchez was not a fair or humble player. She was a bit arrogant and argued almost every close call. She was the first and the most vocal of the players to not give Seles the #1 ranking in her comeback
@@Munkyjoe1 Then it appears Sanchez took every shot very serious, as it should be: it is their lives and careers so it makes sense. No one knows if the umpires and lines people wanted someone specific to win: tennis is Not a clean sport, just like ANY other sport, they are all dirty.
@@markuse3472 a lot of players get bad calls and brush it off, but Arantxa was too annoying with all close calls.
perfect player of all time!
I miss her on the tour so much!!! I love Serena and Venus too but the WTA w/o Seles just feels a little empty.
The sad thing is that only 2 players in the top 10 prior to her returning in August 1995 voted for Monica to be co-ranked no.1 which was Gabriela Sabatini and Mary Joe Fernandez. The rest turned their back on her which was said and gutted Monica. That is why Monica always spoke highly of Gaby and Mary Joe
I thogth only gaby voted
I thought Gabrielle abstained.
Monica's fellow players who voted against her are a disgrace.
No one voted against Seles getting a #1 co-ranking. At least not Steffi, she equivocally supported it.
@@pinkballoon8181 You are confusing it with the poll among players in Rome 1993 (!) about whether Seles should keep her #1 ranking after the stabbing. All players present in Rome voted against it, only Sabatini abstained. Steffi was not in Rome and so did NOT take part in that voting.
When Seles was ready to return to the tour 2 years later in 1995 (!) there was not much (open) controversy about Seles getting a #1 co-ranking. Steffi even explicitly supported that decision.
However, Selestial a**holes still try to smear Steffi with lies about these points.
Well, that's how those people are. Pure skum.
MONICA SELES WAS GREAT US OPEN !!!!
It's sad that Monica had to go through so much pain and traumatic experiences. I think if she was not stabbed her career would have surpassed Margaret Court. However we will never know. As for Steffi I think she really wanted to be No. 1. I know it's not her fault that Seles was stabbed but I think Steffi could have made an effort to make it right with Monica such as keeping in touch with her and working together by uplifting each other up and being a friend and a sincere college in the game. I think their relationship would be better. Sometimes trying to care is better than not caring at all. I am sure Steffi cared but not so much. She took the opportunity in getting the number 1 spot and winning more grandslams because she wanted that spot so much. Therefore that rivalry of Seles and Graf will always be controversial indefinitely. You will never see Monica and Steffi doing an exhibition together or even being in the same day and time in a grandslam event doing some collaboration and commentary. That history brought so much resentment especially on Monica. She may have move on but the pain and the memories will never go away.
seles tennis goat forever
Such a sad story it s such a shame for her, tennis and us fans to have been deprived of all the matches the Seles/ Graf could have been it should have been the 90's rivalry like the Navratilova/ Evert of the 80's instead of boring matches because Steffi worked so hard to catch up with Monica that when Monica was absent she didn t have much opposition .
"such a shame for her, tennis and us fans to have been deprived of all the matches".
Yes the tragedy was for the public of tennis lovers, the immense loss of all the potential matches Seles should have produced. And it's not just the Steles-Graf battles. Seles, even after the stabbing, could have avoided wallowing in self-pity and obsession with revenge against the aggressor and the unfair German justice system. Instead, she could have given absolute priority to her self-preservation as a top tennis player, getting back immediately to training and competition. Exactly as Petra Kvitova, another left-hander, did after she was stabbed in the hand by an intruder. Petra's injuries on her playing left-hand were even more serious than Monica's. Nonetheless, with more mental strength, Kvitova was back in action 5 months later. By contrast, Monica wasted 2 years and 3 months in idleness and junk food binging, wasting the precious growing years between 19 and 22. It is still hard to understand why her father/coach did not interfere to save his darling protegee from self-destruction. Had Seles's response been more mature and less juvenile, she could have gone on being a contender in the 2000s until age 35-36, around 2009-2010, She would have figured in all the rivalries with Henin, Sharapova, Venus and Serena, and all the other top-10 players. This is what the tennis world lost, and that is the real tragedy.
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Nigel McKenna
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Monica Seles came back to tennis under very tough circumstances. For that to happen to you in a public arena in front of a large crowd how do you deal with something like that? She was still a competitive player on her comeback, but a few new players were entering the scene, including Martina Hingis, the Williams sisters and of course Steffi Graf was still there... God bless Monica Seles
I felt badly when she was stabbed. I never got over it.
SELES IS THE GOAT..IF NOT STABBED WITH KNIFE BY GRAF FAN
If your wet dreams help you to live your sad life so be it.
Well .....Now that im mature,
Monika at her best was prob the best ...
Maybe Nav at her best wouuld be a great one
Monica was at her best in 1991/92.
In those two years she lost 3 of 4 matches against a slumping Steffi, two badly so. Her only win was a 10-8 in the third set (FO 92 final).
88/89 Steffi was far, far, far better than Seles ever was.
Only Selestial nutters and the usual US Steffi haters would say otherwise. Thankfully they are in the minority and Steffi is generally seen as the greatest ever world-wide.
I like both Graf and Monica, but there was no way Graf should celebrated in front of Monica like that after she won that US Open.
That is stupidity. They were both professionals. Both playing women's, not girls, tennis. They had been playing tennis since little kids. They had both played this whole tournament, beating others away from the tournament. They played the final match of the tournament. Steffi won. Celebration is a must. No other player in tennis REALLY believes that "stabbing" was what made Seles not win more slams but one afterwards, no matter what they say. It was a little cut, nothing more.
Markus E k
Holy shit .A theif robbed 10 rupees from my home once . But his entry in to my home is hell a experience and a trauma for 3 months
@@MrRahul47 true
@@markuse3472 I agree with you 100% on the main point. But calling it a "little cut" has no impact whatsoever on Graf's exultation at winning a grand slam, which was the justification of her whole life. There's always a loser in those finals. After all, Seles won the 2d set 6-love, and if she had won the match, she certainly would have exulted even more than Graf. It goes with the territory.
Coming back to the seriousness of the wound, in fact, in her two books, Seles never shows the report of the two surgeons she flew to visit in Vail only two days after the stabbing, Dr. Hawkins and Dr. Steadman, at the Steadman-Hawkins clinic. And she remained always vague about the physical data (muscles, tendons, ligaments, nerves, etc.) of her wound.
No doubt, most probably for the preservation of her image as the unfortunate victim of an evil fate, highlighting the irreparable damage done to her psyche, and damping down how irrational, weak, and irresponsible her response to the attack had in reality been.
@@MrRahul47 The two can't be compared unless one is stupid.
she looks like DIVA FAVSTINA the minor wife of Marcvs Avrelivs Roman emperor ...her mother was born in Pannonia (hungary) in roman coins and statues ....well best tennis player ever to me
What happened to her is one of the most unfair things in the history of sports.
There have happened a lot worse things to many other sports persons.
Seles was mentally not very strong which is sad.
@@carrerau7138 says the guy who claims his favorite couldn’t play well for 3 years because of bad articles in the papers. Seek help Gunther
@@jujumusique1305 Tell us - what was bad about those articles?
What do you know about it?
At the US Open American crowds should be 100% behind Seles instead of leaning towards Graf. What a disgraced!
Yeah, well, your biases and prejudices were thankfully not considered.
Why should New York crowds respond to your own feelings? Absurd