Top 5 Cards We Can't Wait to Rotate Featuring PowrDragn! | Mtg
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- Rotation is on its way, and there will be plenty of cards we'll miss in Standard, but today, Dev and Powrdragn are sitting down to talk about all the cards they can't wait to see leave! Some of the most irritating cards in the format only have a couple more months to aggravate us, and we're here to send them off!
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Man crimson vow feels like it came out 400 years ago
I took a break after crimson vow came out and came back and was shocked it was still in standard
Bruh, you ain't lying. Too many sets all the time
@@dittmar104 I took a break right before Streets of New Capenna came out and came back a month ago and had the same feeling.
I played Magic around 1994 for a year or two. Then I just came back via Arena a week before Crimson Vow came out. It feels like I’ve been playing forever now, and I’m still in the same Standard.
In all seriousness, you guys have amazing chemistry and compliment one another. You should literally do a show like The Resleevables. Just do Magic History and breakdown what you think of sets, power level. Top 10's of various things from colors, spells in that color, etc. Channel Fireball used to do it way back in the day, not sure if they do it still today. It's always good to hear from 2 separate minds on content matter who are as insightful as you guys.
The Wandering Emporer and memory Deluge are top of my list. Actually started playing alchemy lately after not touching that format ever since it launched just to get a breath of fresh air from seeing those two cards every second game. They would have been fine if they rotated on time, just feels like the emporer especially has overstayed her welcome.
As a lover of green, Kumano randomly shutting off Goldvein Hydra for no reason really ruins my day about 3 times a day on Arena.
Only 3 times a day? lucky you!
@@defyingmara5598 * a match
The Dudley Boyz of the MTG scene lets gooooooooo
3 D!!!
The Acolytes
Awesome Truth
Why is this not pinned???
lol🤣🤣
Graveyard Trespasser sure seems a little long in the tooth about now...
I know it isn’t rotating yet (!!!) but the number one on my list will always be Sheoldred. It’s just dumb deck building-any deck that plays her will be competitive because she’s one of the best creatures ever printed.
While I wholly agree its kind of mad she barely saw play at the recent PT because of just how many other great pieces/creatures black gets at 4 mana now.
Sheoldred's just such a generic value engine that I find her a bit boring. If she stays in play, she wins the game. She's not even "good in this kind of deck" or "good if that happens" - she triggers off every card drawn in a game, and if there's one constant across formats it's that players always try to draw more cards.
That level of value stapled to a 4/5 deathtouch for 4 mana is crazy. She stonewalls most small to medium creatures and always trades up against bigger ones. She even renders smaller attacks totally irrelevant just because the player with her out is going to (probably) out-gain the damage they do.
You guys are perfect together, 3 extra cards each and some healthy preamble before showing any. Now let’s get that wrestling intros top 10!
Every single card I was like "Yep. Get that sh*t outta here.*
Such a great duo. Please keep this Tag Team going.....Also, you should discuss how Jim Johnston not being in the WWE Hall of Fame is a crime... (He wrote all the themes that made your childhood magical)
“‘Yes, do that,’ was indeed what the audience was saying.”
THANK YOU for mentioning the W/G enchantments shell. I used to play it but got sick of it for the exact reason you guys were talking about. I feel bad whenever I get salty against this deck because it’s not *actually* a problem in the meta so I’ve been feeling like a scrub for hating it
Can not wait for rotation to happen
12:13 this is my problem with those 2 cards, both are huge bombs, both in the same deck, and they are both instant speed, same cost. Not only that but they favour opposite plays, if you are worried about deluge finding a sweeper or removal/counter you need to play fast and emperor is gg, if you are worried about emperor you need to play slow, and passing a turn to deluge is gg.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Kamigawa legendary lands. I can't stand seeing them anymore, they are a stapple in every single existing deck. There is actually no reason at all not to play them (except for 1 deck, temur combo). It has just become stupid. And the funny part is that 90% of the time, you'll just play them as regular lands, but still they will be there, in your decklist, and it's been 3 long years of Eiganjo, Otawara, Boseiju... they have to go for good and never come back.
big agree on this, Boseiju is a contender for one of the most powerful lands ever made, I love playing with them but playing against them is particularly brutal and there's never not a reason to put at least one of each colour you're playing unless your list really heavily requires basics as you said.
That's because they don't enter tapped.
I won't miss them at all. Eiganjo and Boseiju and Otawara being extra removal that white, green, and blue can play at negligible deckbuilding cost (but for the latter two, substantial money) is just annoying.
They also feel rather luck-based. As something that's usually a 1-of or MAYBE a 2-of, I always sigh a little when one of them hits. "Lucky you, you hit that 1/60 card in your deck".
Couldn't agree more! Still rocking Atsushi. Crying when it gets sunfalled. Have not seen farewell in a minute because standard is even faster then before.
Hell yeah! More Powerdragon. And yes, I would watch the wrestling entrance videa.
I like the celeatus, it perfectly embodies the heart of an earth bending master.
"There's positive jing when you're attacking, and negative jing when you're retreating!” “… and neutral jing when you do nothing!"
I 100% understand the folks who are completely done with selesnya enchants. Enchants are my favorite so I crafted it day 1 of KND before there was even a meta, & then it just kept winning. Set after set after set I never needed a new deck.
It's only now that I'm coming back after a good length break that it seems kinda unplayable, & fair enough. I won too many games for too long with that thing.
Kumano and farewell just reminds me that death triggers font really matter in standard. Not that this changes with sunfall still being here, but maybe all the aristocrat tools will finally find a home
Yeah, they probably need to really tone it back with exile removal unless it's an oblivion ring style effect.
Huge agree. So many decks I want to build which make use of the graveyard and literally none of them matter. Especially now with RIP being a 2 mana graveyard hate forever card, at least golgari gets a lot of enchantment removal.
I always called the new capenna fetch lands Family Lands cus of the mob families
Really can't argue with anything on this list it's all true. When we see something too much it's had it's time to shine and it's time to go. I wish they would do a mandatory early spot rotation on a handful of cards every 6 months just to see things shift around. Love these commentary vids you and Powerdragon do keep them coming!
I wish we had madness cards to use with Blood. Not sure why they didn't do that...
You guys should collaborate and make a video on “If we made a set”. The story, power lvl, go to a new plain or back to an old one, etc..
You guys know MTGs history and you guys could really dive in deep on lore or power lvl and why you pick high or low power lvl. We all know the stories and WOTWC have been spiraling. Two content creators that really know magic would be a lot of fun to hear how they would make a set and see if we can “fix” the game we love. If only in a fantasy land with you guys 😊
It'd be cool if you guys did some kind of series where you challenged each other to use different decks on the ladder and then compared notes. Talked about what worked, what didn't, etc.
I found the Farewell player today in BO3 standard against Azorius Control.
Top decked Farewell twice right when needed (lethal next turn) to wipe out my entire board state and pretty much took over from there both times due to card advantage.
The real problem with Thalia is that it encourages playing other cards like it. If it was just a single legendary creature that taxes your spells by 1, you can fight through that. But then they throw Invasion of Gobakhan on top of that. And Annointed Peacekeeper on top of that. And before you know it, you're sitting there unable to play Magic.
A lot of these cards are pretty much just focused on control. Which is crazy considering aggro is ending games by turn 3.
This has happened to me maybe twice a week on the ladder? Whereas 10 times this week I've hit the new artifact control deck. If you just pack incidental lifegain or some removal you can withstand aggro very straightforwardly.
Im definitely curious to see how the format will change with rotation.
Taking a quick look at the most played lands on mtggoldfish, 13 of the top 25 are rotating, 5 of the others are basics.
I'm going to predict some more aggressive decks running fewer colors. Having the enemy fastlands opens some doors but losing all the two-color slowlands that enter untapped WAY more often is a big deal. All the slowlands kind of don't have drawbacks after turn 2 and honestly, most Standard decks can survive T1 with a tapped land. I've only found stuff like Shattered Sanctum to be awkward when I keep an iffy 2-lander after a mulligan & then don't topdeck into a third land (or get another slowland).
The painlands i've found painful (haha) to run more than 4 of or to try and lean on for color-fixing beyond 2-ish colors; if you're in 2-color and need to tap 1-2 colored mana out until you draw into something better it's fine, but if it's later in the game and that's your only (say) red source the damage can pile up. The fastlands REALLY stink to play as land 4+; I've found those turns are the more pivotal ones that hurt to have tapped mana.
I hadn't realized it with the triomes, but the cycling mode is something I think that deck will miss. It's not cheap, but playing against Domain I've lost matches where the cycled Triome finds the removal or something needed to stabilize.
I'm a bit burnt on Standard and I'll probably take a step back from it until rotation. I'm really sick of seeing all the cards mentioned in this video. Wandering Emperor can absolutely fuck off forever.
Great video guys. Agreed with most of the cards too! I don’t mind farewell as much because it doesn’t see any play but I’ll be happy with it rotating too. I hope you do this every year.
So nice when you guys do this !!
The viewers demand a podcast with the two of you
I always love the collaborative videos you guys create together ... how about the Top 10 Jank cards you will miss after rotation? Keep the great content coming!!
Sunfall is also #1 on my PLEASE GO AWAY list, #2 Atraxa.
I can't believe we still have _another year_ of Atraxa after this rotation. The only silver lining is that the disappearance of the Capenna tri-lands might cut the legs out of the Domain deck.
@@FatboyGengiz But not for much since Leyline of the Guild Pact will become more used than it is now in order to replace those Triomes
Me too but sunfall doesnt rotate
yeah they went a but overboard on exile effects--probably as a downstream function of reanimate stuff being too difficult to balance
@@alpha34098 I doubt that Leyline can pick up all the slack for Domain. Sure, it's great from opening hand but what are they going to replace to fit 4x Leyline in the deck? They're not going to cut 4 lands for Leylines and they don't want to hard-cast it; it's pretty expensive to get out that way and they'd far rather resolve a 4-mana ramp spell to get to 6 mana than hardcast a Leyline.
Great lists. I always learn something from you fellas
I feel like Farewell has been played almost never played ever since Sunfall came out. Love hearing your opinions but it seems that you just don't want to play against control.
I haven't seen Farewell in months.
yep
@@FatboyGengiz I see it in lists as a 1-of, a sort of Sunfall #5. Probably doesn't get cast a lot because Sunfall's 4x more likely to get cast, but it's there.
Shame Commander is stuck with it forever, but at least Standard is free of it soon.
Yeah, I basically haven't seen it in ages, and graveyard usage is super high right now. Farewell is just too expensive for the meta and has been for a while?
In BO3 we still see 1 or 2 Farewell in sideboards of control and domain lists quite often. It seemed like it dropped off almost completely when WOE came out but has been creeping back since then.
I really resonate with every choice, except of one. I just don't get the addition of Farewell in this list, because it's never really been more than a 1-of in control decks. I would definitely add Wedding Announcement instead. It's just in every white midrange deck since it got printed and it's so annoying to play against.
Last year before WOE the top tier of Standard BO3 had Atraxa Domain and Esper Control playing 4x Farewell (and 4x Sunfall) for pretty much the entire summer. Some of us still have Farewell trauma from that time.
Yep, glad the tri lands are going. Will be interesting to see if the 4/5 color decks get hurt.
I actually agree 100% with all the choices AND placements. Once rotation hits its going to be a very different landscape for sure.
It would be really cool to see you two do duels in Arena with various decks! Themes, favorites, whatever!
Would be cool to see a speculation video of what kind of unique archetype decks will be able to flourish once Farewell is gone.
I'd love to see you two discuss cards you're looking forward to brewing around after rotation. Cards that maybe look cool but couldn't shine with cards like Emperor and Farewell hanging around, and might be cool to try out in their 2nd/3rd year.
These collabs are always awesome. More!
Love the venting about these annoying cards over powered brokenness that should have not been in standard so long
The thing I really hate about 'Farewell' is that is supercharges Planeswalkers and Superfriends type control decks. In my opinion Planeswalkers were a mistake and have changed the way magic is played in a negative way.
He is super special! Thanks for putting this together!
Please put together rankings of best Wrestling Entrance Themes
YES! FAREWELL is my no 1 by a long shot! Couldn't agree more 😘
Mono red/hyper aggro discourages fun decks just as much if not more then Farewell.
Hyper agro is one of the few answers to monolithic control. People just don't.
Like monolithic control but it's just as good and just as oppressive. The only other reason is that it isn't fast... Because people don't know when to concede when the game is under control
Surprised to see Farewell over Wedding Invitation & Emperor.
Pretty much every deck can get through aggro if they get their main pieces outside of pure control. Pretty much no deck can withstand repeat sunfalls if they're unlucky enough to face them. Idk why control players are so salty/lie about aggro being oppressive of jank when its simply not true.
I don’t even play much magic anymore but I love this gruesome twosome!
Hell yeah! You two are my favorite youtubers.
Start that wrasslin podcast!
Great video, brother!
yall are killin it. talk about fav tribes you'd like to see make a competitive revolution.
You started strong but fell off a bit towards the end. Emperor bybfarvis the #1 pick followed by #2 Wedding Invitation. I just wish Haughty Djinn was on its way out too. Loved the video!
I’d be keen to watch you guys vs with janky standard decks!
Always love the Dev x PowrDragn collabs ❤
I love that you are doing colaps :)
Classic "Top x" video! Top 5, actually top 11! Lol
Love to watch both of your content!
Alchemy has been Farwell free for a year ;)
We should’ve stayed two year rotation. But WOTC needed to get rid of overstock by delaying rotation.
Personally I'm a fan of the bigger card pool - Extended was my favorite format back when it still existed
@@Goldy01 I am fascinated by that. I only came to magic because I heard of the panacea of rotation. The absolute worst thing about other TCGs is that the cards are forever so every card must be balanced against every other card and decks have incredible longevity while also jacking up prices. If magic were trying to be consumer friendly they would try and make standard the premier format again so that prices would settle and the game wouldn't be so oppressive to get into.
Great list, however, I don't see Farewell anymore. I scoop on turn 5 after getting Wandering Emperored, into a Sunfall. :)
Haven't played standard in a long time. What sets are rotating
Hey, I was "like" #700!
Very fun video, guys. You're a great team.
For the cards you’ll miss at rotation - if there was a way to summarize a play/board state that featured each card
Predictions / deck ideas for what will work with new standard and Bloomburrow. We already have plenty of animals like otters, rabbits, etc. we can use to build decks with.
I'd like to see videos with you two together where you talk about positive stuff. Your favorite cards, your favorite art, your favorite whatever.
Upcoming Vids:
-- 5x cards you'll miss when rotation happens
-- Top 3 best/worst/overrate cards in each standard set (NEW, SNC, DMU, BRO, ONE, MOM, WOE, LCI, MKM, OTJ)
-- Better affordable card replacement (to replace top3 cards from second bullet).
this was a dope Standard. one for the books. Adds some more cards and rebalance and you a good cube format.
I love this so much!
Yeah, you two would make a great podcast. Even if an episode was about wrasslin' every few, I would probably still listen to it (: Seems like one a month on each of your channels (so two a month total) would be a nice pace that would make it special and not have you strapped for coming up with topics. And then a bonus game play episode with you two on live commentary where you are giving us analysis on plays and lines while you are playing; couple play a BO3 for reals and then a couple more games where you just talk us through everything from each side.
Aside from both topics you two mentioned like 10 cards that will be missed and what a 3 year roto means -some other good topics would be;
- how designing for EDH has effected standard
- what archetype is almost good enough, but just needs a piece or two to come together and maybe speculate on what the ideal card would be to take it to the next level; or what card(s) need to get banned to let free
- both do a deck tech with some sort of weird restriction (or roto safe) and then battle them out
- BO3 sideboard tutorial and just great sideboard cards for playing against the popular decks in standard currently.
- Just general trends in standard
- look back at a standard of yore - maybe even some game play with a couple popular decks from that time
Triomes rotate and we will for sure see more mono and dual colour decks.... i think 3 colour decks would maybe fall by the wayside....
the thing about farewell and commander is that this doesn't do the absolutely inonimable.... it doesn't exile lands, so commander players think it's fine.
remove all the options and replace the entire text for "Exile all lands" and then, immediately, people will start punch you in the face for running it.
we can't talk about commander as if the banlists and actual play patterns made any sense at all.
i'm with you guys the most about wandering emperor. and i play this card pretty much every time i fire up arena (UW control in standard), but i still cannot wait for rotation. Farewell - at least this card isn't really being played that much anymore. like i dont even play farewell in my UW control deck in bo1. but i do agree with every card on this list to some degree. harvester, yup. i think they could have just rotated ONE SET out of standard, whcih is NEO, and that would have also solved tons of the issues cuz look how many cards that we are sick of are from NEO.
There are some decks that will go away with rotation and I cant wait. Alchemy rotation is coming along with standard rotation and I cant wait!
me trying to play a Matzatlani deck and my opponent has farewell 😮
Farewell should have cost WWWWWW or 2WWWW. The casting cost doesn't balance with the effect. Too cheap and easy to cast for the power level.
See also, sunfall.
I find it interesting the entire actual top 5 is all (partially) white cards. Not that the color is particularly more tiring, it's just got a lot of really good tools for aggro, midrange and control, with some overlap, so it felt like it was always present in the past few years, even during the Grixis dominance. With that said, plenty we'll be happy to see go in other colors, as the honorable mentions (and personal experience) show
As a green player by preference, I'd just love to see a green card which is deemed oppressive/annoying for once. (I know jukai naturalist is on here but its lowest for a reason).
@@danielklein5829 I think the last truely broken mono green card was Nissa who shakes the World? Even Question Beast was just a hasty 4-drop without protection
Wandering Emperor would be much less frustrating by changing the exile to "target creature loses indestructible, then destroy target creature" Exile is excessive given everything else the card does and all the exile removal in white
Edit: Gotta disagree with Farewell though... It costs 6. It either had to be this good or a modal instant (given power creep) at that cost. Hate getting hit with it (and Sunfall just as much) but it's a 6 mana sorcery 🤷♂️
I would have expected Kumano faces Kakkazan to be top1 for both, rather than being in the honourable mentions, but yeah ok. I mean… I guess everybody but monored players is sick of it.
I don't hate the card but it is very annoying and generates a huge amount of value for a 1 mana piece. Ping's your opponent, grows your swiftspear/slickshot, then becomes a 2/2 with haste. If it didnt have graveyard hate it'd still be a very good card. With the graveyard hate its an immediate must kill for any deck which cares.
As a commander I put farewell on my list of cards I get visceral about with vorinclex voice of hunger.
I got farewelled today with two submarine vehicles the Enchantment that gives merfolk and 4 creatures. They had two planes walkers. It was disgusting
We love the crossover content!
Reckoner Raid needs time for his motorcycle engine to warm up so that's why he doesn't have haste..
Side note, you two should be the perennial announcers for all MTG tournaments
The one thing from honourable mentions I didn't really resonate with is the Bloodtithe Harvester. I think you are right it's almost an auto-include in Rakdos but I think it's because Rakdos is lacking options in that slot. It's going to really struggle to fill the 2 drops after rotation if there's not something good in Bloomburrow. Kind of sad because Rakdos really got hated out of the format by bans of Fable of the Mirrorbreaker and Invoke Despair and only just made a partial come-back with Discover in LCI. I'd feel better about getting rid of Bloodtithe if it was stifling the deck creativity because of how good it is but I don't think that's the case...there's just not enough other options.
Just found PDs channel earlier today!
Of course, this issue with the Cappena Fetchlands can be easily solved by simply changing the Stacking Rules, allowing players to resolve the cards that have the same name all at once if they all activate at the same time unless something is activated in response
That way, games against Temur Combo wouldn't drag too much because your opponent will be solving the Fetchlands in a more quicker pace
Yeah if they just made it so I could bundle nissa's triggers together (as I would do in paper play) it wouldn't be an issue.
Always a fan of the gathering!
Changing the rotation for standard ruined it for me. The whole point to standard for me was to be able to play decks that aren't overpowered. If I want a turn one or two win, I'll play timeless or historic.
Also i cannot wait til farewell dies
I want to see you guys do battle with spicy brews
Was there ever a video about all the Outlaws in standard?
The worst people play multiple planeswalkers 😅 love wandering emperor in my ojer taq deck both for removal and 3x tokens :)
I think Farewell would've worked better if they'd printed it in OTJ, because it could've been a spree card. Make it cost 2W, and then W or 1W for each of the options.
I knew Farewell was going to be pick, but I also kind of think it's a strange pick. How often is it even played nowadays? The most board-wipey decks usually only play a single copy, and 6 mana is a looooot of mana in the long reign of Boros/Red aggro decks we've had in BO1, and the Esper decks we've had in BO3 where it's too easy to find and hold Ertai. Even Sunfall is getting cut in favour of Temporary Lockdown because it's so much cheaper.
I certainly wouldnt have come back to standard without the rotation change.
enchantments have been rivaling the tenacity of the cockroach even though they never got any new cards. they still just show up randomly like "damn I thought I got em all". Nope. Always more waiting behind the walls.
oh and Thalia taxing your discover cards is heckin annoying
The triomes are the #1 for me. Just so there’s at least one format on arena without those awful things. Also I am so sad about my girl wandering emperor leaving. So many good times and memories 😢
YES DO THAT! (wrestling theme)
Idea for video. Brawl vs each other or a grip of favorite decks vs each other or jank vs meta game or jank vs jank.
I get that you have to play to the algorithm and talk about what is popular, but y'all seem like long time players. What about some of the old sets and formats? Love your collabs SO much.
Best topic best creators 🥳