Borderlands 3: How We Can All Impact the Road Ahead
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With the last patch for Borderlands 3 we also got a Road Ahead post with the near future goals laid out for Borderlands 3, things including Bank Space, Target Dummy, Loot Drops, Mayhem and more. I talk about how I would like these to happen but also how you can get your voice heard.
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The lootpools could also bit separated on planets on pandora more cov and dahl , promithia more atlas, eden 6 more jakobs etc and the mobthing is realy a great idea ! I am a big fan of the diablolike areafarming so it shoukd stay that way but since now the meta made clear which weapons are most desired adding bossdrops of that would be awesome!✌cheers
I mean, the idea is good on paper but put into action I dont know bro
@@michaelrosa9593 should add that i think of the legendaries be localized bit more not all rareties but i also agree that theory is a tricky thing! Cheers fortnite note
@@o0b.a.d.fluppy0o39 ok now your talking lol
The problem is that Eden 6 and Pandora are way too big with many bosses in comparison to other planets. But there's many other things it could be separated, like boss type, boss element, enemy rarity, etc. Like vault monsters could drop more relics and eridian weapons as well.
9:20 PREACH. I want that aswell. It caters to casuals who don’t want to farm specific enemies for specific loot. It caters to “in the know” players who like farming specific loot from specific enemies and then all in all, the world drop pool staying large with high drop rates means all players can be happy when unexpected legendaries drop from a mob or loot splosion or chest
So far I like the grenades in B2 more than in B3, but I am only on level 21, so my opinion may change. I am not excited about any grenade I have got yet. Basically one grenade in B3 only damages enemies, whereas in B2 one grenade will kill one or more of the bad guys.
I'm waiting for the day my skill menu doesn't take 3 years to load
You really hit the spot when talking about drops. The drop rate on the Cobra was so low in BL2 that I never thought about a similar system being introduced again. There are so many possibilities with the amount of loot in this game. Keep it up with the good ideas Derch!
I would love for them to add the ability to favorite builds, so you don't have to constantly empty the tree, and re allocate points. I would love to switch from my Elementalist build to your Sheriff Amara build, but having to empty the skill tree, and then go through my screenshots to re allocate points is such a pain. I also think it would also be cool to add a respec station before a boss fight so you can look at your library of builds for that character, and select the one that would be best for that fight.
love this
Yes
I personally would like each world to have a separate world drop pool.
That would separate the world drops to 5 sources. That would make people want to go to all the planets rather than 1 specific boss.
This idea is amazing! It's a little of both types of loot drops. Mr Derch please promote this idea. Incorporate this along with Derch's other proposed ideas and you might just have found a winning solution that keeps everyone relatively happy.
@@OldGoat-cw8he I posted this Idea on the Forums and Reddit today, hopefully it'll get some traction.
Gets my vote great idea 👍
@@stachitus I'm sure it will skyrocket, it's a good idea!
...no, that is very bad if it excludes lots of items from world drops ... only good for dedicated sources ....
.... i support idea of specific enemy type/class having higher chance to drop certain gear type, but not area restricted ...
One quick thing:
Zane’s digi clone doesn’t suffer the same issues as all other pet classes. It actually does have skills that help it compensate for difficulty increases, and generally receives most of the buffs that Zane himself gets. The issue for the digiclone is uniquely not because of scaling. This is actually a result of the AI not tracking targets as well as other pet builds and not taking full advantage of a weapons fire rate.
The digiclone scales almost perfectly with zane. I went for the clone tree for my first play through and towards the end I felt like I traded in my pet for an actual player (albeit a pretty crappy one).
15:35 The stat boosts are the most important aspect of buffing Fl4k's pets though. I have the closest thing I've seen to a pure pet build: 7/5 Frenzy, spiderant scorchers, barbaric Yawp, every pet damage boosting skill except for pack tactics and Power Inside. Even with my build, my pet struggles to hit 5000 damage. The real powerhouse is the spiderant's lava pool, which has done up to 1500 a tick. It does damage if enemies stay within the area, but that isn't a simple task without the red fang mod.
Even using the new terror anointment that adds 50% damage as fire to pets, they only melee for 3000-4000 total with a build and classmod tailored to them. And that is with matching elements, which only the spiderant can do. The Skag tops out around 2500-3000. With atomic aroma you can bring their DPS past 5000, but then Atomic Aroma is doing the majority of the work due to its AOE and fast tick rate.
It doesn't matter if the pets scale off of gear if their base numbers are too low. Right now, with over 100% damage from the skill tree, 30% multiplicative bonus elemental damage, 56% multiplier from Frenzy, and the new terror anointment adding another 50% as fire, they top out at 3 or 4 thousand. With Gamma Burst adding another 75% as radiation damage, they can reach a bit higher (too many numbers on screen to tell with certainty, but maybe 6000-6500, although occasionally 8000 is possible). But my westergun does 10k at a fire rate of over 6 bullets per second. My pets do a about a quarter of my damage per pellet, which I appreciate, but for them to be in a good spot I need them to do 25 % of my total DPS, enough that I will miss them if they disappear. At the moment, I miss them because I miss out on damage and revives, not because I miss their contribution to my damage.
I appreciate the amount of personality that GB put into FL4K's pets. I like that they each have their own dedicated role and utility. I can appreciate the different circumstances each pet is most effective in. However, in no other game has GB given an aspect of a characters kit so many ways to improve its damage and still have it be inconsequential. The only skills they seem to have intended the pets to do damage with was attack commands, since those have the biggest multipliers, and those are clunky and unresponsive. The badass DigiJacks didn't need bolster to take on Badasses. Wolf didn't need Rolling Thunder to do so either. Fl4k's pets need Gamma Burst just to deal with trash quickly. This is ALMOST entirely an issue of scaling. Adding another 100% multiplier to the pets would only increase their damage by 1000 (because the fire anointment only adds 500). Considering their slow rate of attack, slow movement speed, and limited utility outside of giving you healing and Frenzy stacks (which is vitally important, don't get me wrong), an extra 1000 damage is not going to make or break their usefulness.
I just want to be able to spend 48 skill points and have a pet that can approach me in power. Gaige, Jack, and Wilhelm all had that. We just need GB to make it happen for FL4K.
About the per-character/shared bank: It would be great if the revamped the bank UI to have three tabs-Shared Bank, Personal Bank, and Backpack. And totally agreed about keeping the world drop pool as it is now.
Be nice if every character just had their own bank
@@t2i4m6m8o How would you trade items between characters though?
@@user-xv9kb2vs5f I do understand the shared bank is convenient and nice to have, it would'nt be a necessity though, I have all 4 characters on TVHM but I find I do most of my farming on my main (Amara) I feel it takes away the playtime for the other characters, just my opinion, being honest though both would be nice the more space the better, I had to create 6 extra characters just for inventory and im still maxed out with gear especially now with the new terror gear 😬
Love the personal stash idea. With limited sort options in the UI it would make organization much easier. Separate all your Flak gear from your Amara gear for instance.
I would just like cryo not to be next to useless on anointed, as cryo Zane its frustrating sometimes and I would like to hold F or G to auto deploy my dome to myself without having to pick it up each time and I'll be happy.
edit: also pick up as trash option would be nice
what you say about adding loot to Proving Grounds maps is exactly what they need, great idea!
Hopefully the new loot drop stuff will be a nice mix of dedicated sources and world drops like how you mentioned. I loved farming runs like the dust and knowing where to go/who to kill if I wanted something in particular, but I also enjoy the surprise of seeing a legendary drop and not knowing instantly what it is. It would be a shame if one of these went away in favour of the other.
I agree with having assigned drops still world drop. Especially considering the upcoming dungeon-like Takedown having bosses broken up by mobbing segments. There’s a certain excitement associated with world drops that exists in BL3 because you might find that drop you’re looking for from literally anything, but there’s also the unfortunate nature of being at the whim of RNG.
The only thing I’m scared of is the precedent set by the anniversary event pools for item types. Farming Demoskaggon, Force Troopers, Gorgon Queen were fruitless relative to efficient world drop sources like Slaughter Shaft and Graveward. There’s just so many potential rolls for shield types/parts/anoints, artifact type combos/passives, class mod types/skills/passives, that with a BL2-esque 10% chance for A drop, you still needed thousands of runs to find something close to what you’re looking for from those sources.
Medyazgeflyzer yeah I agree. I want a BL2 loot pool system, mixed with a BL1 remaster world drop system. So casual players aren’t deprived of legendaries, in the know characters are catered with specific locations for specific loot, and all players can get the welcomed suprise or random world drops showing up in random places
I agree 100% on your assessment of the event specific farming. They didn't impact the drop rates enough to really even notice that they were supposed to be dropping class mods, for instance. I actually did better pure RNG Graveward drops on class mods than I did target farming for them during the event. If they are going to have dedicated sources then they shouldn't have a worse drop rate than a random boss farm.
How about having loadouts? Not just guns etc but complete builds including skill tree changes.
Anointed Militants need less Immunity! Just posted this on Gearbox Forums!
Oh yeah, that should be on cool down like an action skill
They also need to work on there a.i sometimes theyll keep teleporting and wont be able to hit them or kill them
I hate the militants that fire stage immunity is the most annoying thing ever I dont even fight them anymore, lifes too short 😁
Agreed
@@t2i4m6m8o They are the worst with invulnerability 75% of the time! But I must defeat them! lol
Glad to see you back Derch
Yeah busy weekend
I mentioned the Bank deal in a comment on a past vid of yours and what your talking about was exactly what I was thinking. The Bank is the shared space keep it at 50(more would be cool) and then each character has their own "deposit box" which isn't shared at least 50(again.. more is cool too).
ALSO: Map drop loot pools like where stuff is still assigned to bosses but also still available in the World drop loot pool would be tricky but kind of an interesting and cool idea which could add more to farming in general.
Great vid Derch, the fact that the community can genuinely impact the future of this game is a big deal. Loved the idea of giving proving grounds and slaughter shaft unique drops but in particular proving grounds as they significantly less appealing for gear farming compared to slaughter shaft. Adding to this, I’d like to see each proving grounds have a higher chance to drop certain items at the highest mayhem level, this would give people incentive to actually play these arenas which were hyped up before launch to be an exciting, challenging end game source of loot but in reality is pretty underwhelming compared to slaughter shaft. So much potential for proving grounds that I feel hasn’t been realised yet, hopefully we see a positive change for them
Chuck 80 and Sljm are pretty much gods to sal players lol. On a serious note though as a flak player if you want flaks pets to be tanky you need to spec into the master tree not many people. Not many people seem to spec into it. Flaks pets get ridiculsly tanky if you spec them right espescially with the buff to barbric yawp.
You can also get crit flak decent healing if you put points into rage and recover, equiping the augment that lets you keep the health regen after fade away ends and using the spiderant. With all that you get decent. healing.
All my healing comes from an Otto idol artifact. Just got lucky to get one. I run a rakk build no points into the master tree and I hardly ever go down.
@@billythegoatthorton idol helps cuz it stacks with the rakk healing. I use an idol to. I was strickly speakiing about people saying flaks pets cant tank. When they can if you spec into master tree. I usally use a rakk and fade away build. With 10 points in the master for some gun damage and healing for my pet
@@teddysaures9540 ahh I gotcha. I don't use the health regen on my rakks either though. I use extra charge and 2 bonus rakks. For maximum damage. I have 4 charges of rakks on a 5 sec cool down so it works great
@@billythegoatthorton yea with your idol and the damge you get from rakks you should get more thsn enough healing. Could probably get more if you use the spider ant
@@teddysaures9540 ive thought about the spider ant but right now I'm using the gunslinger jabber
agree with the pet balancing. it feels like the way theyre balancing things is just upping the damage on some gear.
The idea with assigned drops for special mobs is pretty good, For example we could assign the shock-bound legendaries to special mobs/minibosses in Lectra City or have items like the Back Ham have an increased chance of dropping from Guardians on their planet. I wouldn't mind if they gave some bosses multiple drops as we already had that. For example how about having Gigamind being the source for multiple science/intelligence-based guns like the Boring Gun, the Musket and so on? And how about giving some bosses that have currently just 1 drop 2 to 4 instead (Mouthpiece could have all the "music" guns, which might include the Hellwalker)? On Mayhem 2/3 legendaries drop often enough that it wouldn't make farming too tedious.
But I would also "free" the legendaries that are exclusive to specific enemies, so that everything could drop as a world drop as well, but hunting for specific enemies would still be rewarding as you would know what you get and how to get it.
Regarding the pets: Fl4k has enough ways to keep their pets alive, but they lack in damage and that was even the case on normal mode very early game. One reason for that is that Gearbox gave the pets very low damage output to not throw off the balance of early game parties. However the bonuses the pets can get are not enough to stay relevant (damage-wise) on Mayhem levels, which is why I think that the pet bonuses at the end of the master tree should have been bigger, especially "Endurance". In addition to that I think that "Dominance" while an awesome skill in concept, does nothing for the playstyle (and role-play-wise it even conflicts with Fl4ks character, but thats besides the point). I would have given "Dominance" a secondary effect to spur the pet on while you have a "sub", which should give the pet a multiplicative damage buff. Because, as of right now the best damage build for the pet goes without Gamma Burst, but with the Gunslinger Jabber and "The Power inside".
Moze has the problem that IB isn't a secondary entity, but she becomes Iron Bear, so that thing should do damage and have a lot of armor. It doesn't need the dozens of fuel bonuses we have right now as it doesn't survive that long, it needs damage and survival. My idea was to have Iron Bear have multiple healthgates, so that each time a massive attack comes in, it only looses a set amount of armor (20% of its base). The Bubble shield should have a capacity and also reduce the damage IB takes when it gets broken, so that it basically works as a fifth healthgate. I would lower the base amount of fuel IB has by around 50% to increase its damage big time, so that IB feels like a short burst of badassery instead of an "O shit"-button.
Zane needs more damage for his drone and/or ideally a reduction in cooldown time. The longer cooldown of the SNTNL does throw off the rhythm of some builds, which makes it not really the best action skill, even though in theory it should be. His clone is already in a much better place than before and can be an effective tool, but you need to know where to place it or it gets rushed down. Here a slight increase in health as well as maybe a 30% damage increase would be enough. But the pets aren't Zane's problem, its his own damage output and some weird skill behavior. If he had some more damage in his "Under Cover" and "Doubled Agent" tree as well as making "Violent Violence" less of a disgrace of a skill (20% Fire Rate on a 5-point kill skill? Really? Give it gun damage!), then he could be strong enough. Also, Anointed being immune to cryo damage isn't making it any better. They should really think about that again honestly.
Hey there is a pretty fun loop in splinter lands, you got tarantella, road hog, Phoenix, and one other I think.
That little side cave with all the spiderants in it. 1 of the side missions you end up there. Good little loot spot.
My main change I wish they wouldnt of changed was the old UI. It was so much sleeker, easy to navigate and no input lag. Plus another little touch that's been touched on is seeing what COM your using similar to how it was in bl2 and the presequel.
Also, vending machines were amazing in the presequel why the sudden change though?
And lastly, with the abundance of legendary gear I wish a feature like the grinder would return. I personally loved that feature.
I can go on.. but I'll go to the forums to share more.
Build load outs would be cool, so for example you’d be playing one shot Amara and then instantaneously be able to switch to melee (maybe make it only accessible outside of combat)
On the topic of FL4K's pets and damage that doesn't scale with gear in general, FL4K's rakks can do really good damage on Mayhem 3 because they get FL4K's neutral damage boosts and certain augments on COMs and gear, namely incendiary damage and splash. If FL4K's pets got FL4K's neutral damage and maybe some of his gear boosts, that would be enough on it's own. Not sure what to do about Iron Bear though
The rakks are the example in how to do them right
@@Derchlands For sure, though with the pets specifically I think making the attack commands more quick and responsive to use would be huge, which would probably take being able to assign an attack command button, and making the AI for those commands better, the latter of which is easier said than done
They actually do to a degree. Certain mayhem modifier effect the pets (both melee and gun, though I'm not sure which gun perks specifically). It's actually beautiful when you get one of those positive modifiers, pets start doing 3000-400 damage at base, easily taking care of trash mobs without much help and without needing Gamma Burst. With Gamma Burst, they can do a tremendous amount of damage to badasses.
It needs to be a universal multiplier to effect the pets though, meaning it can't just be something that applies to Fl4k only. Outside of the bonuses on the pets themselves, only mayhem modifiers can apply this boost to them.
I think a cool thing to have as far as loot drops should go, if there are 60 bosses/unique enemies in the game, and each one can drop 1 Legendary Gun and 1 Legendary Gun and 1 Legendary Item, that means that 120 of the 200+ have a dedicated source. The remaining 80+ legendaries COULD be all world drops, but you could even split that up further by having 20-40 of those remaining legendaries be put into exclusively Loot enemy pools, like the Pearls in BL2. And if you want it to be more like BL1’s drops, you could take some of the remaining guns and items and put them into specific Badasses (ie. SMG’s and AR’s for regular Badasses, Shotguns and RLaunchers for Heavy Badasses, etc)
There’s definitely a lot of room to create Variability in Legendary drops, I just hope they keep the drop rates where they at and don’t lower it again lol
Great conversation with Moxsy.
Thanks
I think we need to see the Mayhem Modifiers that change Gun+ and - damage more separated like you have one gun type with a + and one with a - because sometime I wanna run a map with my Shogtun and AR or sometimes with pistols and snipers...or what have you...I just think the piling they did was to see how things were going but I'd like to see a broader spectrum of things like that.
The thing that frustrates me the most about mayhem is how non elemental damage gets screwed, there are more modifiers affecting it negatively compared to anything else. I have a lot of good gear for fun sniper Fl4k build, but playing it is a chore. Even trying to reset is annoying, because you're almost guaranteed to get non elemental nerf
My main problem with Mayhem mode is that the chance for equally positive mods means that Mayhem 3 is not always harder than Mayhem 2 - and 2 is not always harder than 1. There's a little bit too much randomness involved there. Instead of progressively greater difficulty, you get progressively more random swings in advantageous or disadvantageous modifiers. It's - well - it's Mayhem! There's something to be said for that, and I do enjoy it (usually) - but I think the degree of difficulty as you go up should be a little more consistent.
Love the idea of introducing more Cobra style loot drops (increase the chance tho lol) also keep the world drop level around where it is now (maybe reduce it if every boss and group of enemy gets dedicated drops)
Oh damn, hell yes I'd love a way to live roll Mayhem. That's a great idea. Call it 5-10 eridium or something. I'm on console, and that is a very frustrating thing. I don't want to spend that much time watching loading screens. I tend to just play with whatever modifiers I get unless they're truly awful for my loadout, but still.
Having such vastly different modifiers does kind of exacerbate the lack of bank space too. I like to keep cool gear around even if I'm not using it anyway, but having to keep multiple entire builds around so I can switch on the fly without spending 15 minutes in front of the bank and in loading screens between characters really pushes the limits we have. Eventually I'll have enough characters with specific loadouts that this won't be that much of a problem, but right now.... Ugh.
I was thinking that the other day. Its a real chore to load different mayhems but I think they did it so you cant run through to a boss on mayhem 1 and then fight the boss on mayhem 3
I agree with another tab in bank for each vault hunter would make things less messy. Also white anointed is a waste. Also the jabber with smg i wish i could switch which one he has thats all.for mayhem i have an idea be able to turn it on and off from anywhere and each time you switch it on and off the mods change. Oh and the weapon grinder would be an awesome addition i think gives a chance to turn eridium and guns we arent using into something we want or will go hmmm wonder what this will do. It was the best addition to the game from the pre sequel imo.
i think if they had some kind of target system they could keep things as is and make everyone happy for example you could select the maker of the gun lets say dahl and then select let's say pistols whenever legendary or purple drops it would have a drastically higher chance of being a dahl pistol or whatever you target
I watched the whole Twitch stream w/ Moxsy the other day. Lots of good discussion, but most BL CCs are ignoring the elephant in the room, no not the nerfs; the incessant little bugs that really subtract from the QOL in the game, and the others that break builds or things that don't work as intended. AbbyHour posted a 7 min video on multiple build smashing bugs regarding FL4K's pets, a member of BL: The Complete Picture found a bug where the +1 to Experimental Munitions on a Moze mod was not yielding the +20% bonus fire damage it was still only 10%, they in- or unintentionally broke Moze's Vampyr-her only healing skill, countless hours lost in SlaughterShaft/Star and CoS to restarts due to enemies glitching into walls after they spawn, the list goes on. I say to GB the same thing I said to Massive regarding The Division2: Before you even THINK of giving me any new content that may or may not be as glitch ridden as your base, or worrying that a few pieces of gear are a little OP: FIX YOUR SHIT! I didn't pat $100 to be a BETA tester....and this Haunted garbage goes till December?! I'm tired of it already. I'd have rather payed $5 and had the choice of whether I wanted to have to kill 2 things for every one, and IDC how great the terror build is, I'm NOT playing w/ that green haze on my screen all the time.
December?! No way, man. The terror shrieking and green haze like you said, on my screen until December!
Those take time to fix and they are working on them. I don't have much more to say on them other than if we all report them the faster they can get fixed.
btw absolutely NO health regen for enemies. I might quite the game if that's the direction they go.
Finally just got Amara to level 50! I can't wait to copy your build!!
I'd like to have more sorting options, especially that in bank has only 2 of 3 actually working.
Speaking about the dedicated loot drop i know they were saying boss for loot drop but what about the Zer0 and Hammerlocks targets that you hunt down across certain locations. They could easily give spacific loot drops to those enemies too.
Many of those already do have drops, I think they all do
@@Derchlands well i know only like 3 of Hammerlocks hunts, the Varkid, Skragg and the big Dino one on Eden 6 drop spacific gear but I've hunt the dino one several times, my first tine was the Faiser, and after that i got the Garcia shotgun several times from that Dino one.
@Derchlands no no no. There is judge Hightower, DJ deadskag, antalope, blinding banshee, swarm host, crush jaw, cylestro and atomic. That’s 8/21 unique enemies (legendary hunt/target of opportunity targets) who don’t drop specific legendaries. I ain’t no mathematician but that equates to about 40% which is a lot more then the 0% that u stated
I'd say lower the world drop a bit (cause its already good) and add back dedicated drops. So you still get the occasional world drop and your drop that youre looking for
Assigned loot drops are ok if the drop rate is rewarding. Killing one enemy 20x to get specific item is just mindless, i would rather get that item as a world drop just by killing mob enemies, assuming drop rate is high enough and gear is well balanced. I'm totally fine with the current state of drop system being similar to BL1 cause I think it was actually better. Instead of killing Terry 500 times to get a decent Hide i would totally just use gib to fully enjoy the best playstyle BL2 can offer. Although as you said the game needs more well designed mobbing maps, the Dust is fantastic example for that, easily one of my fav. Personally im disappointed that Athenas has just one map...
I'm fine with more modifiers being added to the pool so there's an increase in variety with the Mayhem, but I don't want more modifiers being active at once. Already we see overlap with modifiers and it can really suck when guns get double nerfed
Agreed 100% with your talking points.
What if they added additional bonuses to pet skills that scale with the amount of pet skills you are specced into? For example, if you fully spec into a pet skill, your pet gets a 10% dmg boost. If you fully spec into 2 pet skills it gets a 20% dmg boost. If you fully spec into 3 it gets 20% dmg and 5% health regen etc. I think that would be a good solution because it doesn't make your pet too OP early game either because you don't have all these skill points. What do you reckon?
Lex Anarchy this is smart
Why cant we use eridium to alter legendaries like use eridium to add elemental damage or fire rate etc
i are not think that
very well put together ma man
Despite the PR nightmares that Gearbox had to deal with up until release, they still choose to listen to the community and take the time to read our input. That deserves a massive amount of respect becaue most dev's nowdays give a toss about money and thats it. Big ups Gearbox for doing it proper.
If you look at the released game it was 99% fan feedback. We should of all known they were listening all along. TPS was much the same
True.. Gotta say I'd rather a more OP level kind of setting for MH4, as you say build breaking modifiers is just not good
NEVER apologise for not making a video
I think they already have the system ready for adding specific drops to specific bosses/enemies - even multiple drops. How many times have you killed Beans and gotten multiple Westerguns? Personally I've gotten 3 to drop from him at once. All they need to do is keep that system, with a roll per item in their pool (maybe with lower chances than they are currently, cuz seriously, 3 legendaries from a side quest named enemy is a little nuts), so we know that if we only get a drop that we don't want, it didn't take the place of the thing we wanted to drop. Crowded loot pools don't have to suck. Maybe I'm mangling exactly what's going on behind the scenes in the afore-mentioned Beans drops, but I thought that's how they had set up the raid boss from Lilith's DLC - IIRC, it had multiple rolls for its legendary/rainbow drops, so getting one drop wasn't a zero-sum game with the rest of its loot pool.
They need to go another route in the future of this game and it's story than Ava
No they dont
I agree. Ava is trashhhhh. And thats said as someone who is a diehard fan. I've been around forever (and will continue to be)
We NEED a petition for
-UNLIMITED gaurdian rank (it has a cap)
-The ability to turn on or off guardian rank
- at least ONE new playable character
- 2 New higher rarities than legendary
- More BACKPACK SPACE!
- Bring back OP levels and gear (Optional for those who seek to push their characters and gear to the next level)
-Unlimited GR would be terrible as bar was.
Alot of that other stuff with time.
They don't need to add bosses to the game for the dedicated loot drops, there's a BUNCH of bosses with no dedicated drops. They should add one or two items for every boss and let the others to the world drop pool and make them more frequent for world drops. And they should increase the chance for rare bosses (roadhog for example) to spawn, I don't know the percentage, but it should be 50%.
I think quick one way (if possible) GB can boost FL4K's "pets" attack power is change "Master" capstone. Dominance is by far the worst capstone in BL3. They could of use it possible permanently double the power. Or take a page from Krieg's Mania capstone "Release the Beast" and turn them into a Badasses and boost attack power and damage reduction. Any thoughts on my idea?
Hey Derch love the content 👍 my gripe is being level 50 TVHM mayhem 3 and get level 49 drops, I got 4 in a row today one which was a laser sploder (which I was looking for) I refuse to use them you want the best gear it was the same on BL2 I hate it, keep rolling the videos out love your breakdowns 👊
Agree 100% on this, just got the annointment I wanted on a cryo laser-sploder and it was level 49, really disappointed.
@@OldGoat-cw8he I feel your pain man
...right, at max level end game you should not get gear below your level .... it's extremely frustrating when you get a rare drop and can't use it because it's too low level ..
@@AkelasanAK I know that frustration all too well, I was under the impression as long as you were on mayhem everything scales to your level obviously not now, just finished TVHM with moze yesterday and got 1 legendary drop in liliths chest a level 49 monacle sniper 🤦♂️
I'm also a bit worried if they shift the grind from "do what you like" to "farm this dude over and over". One way i believe could work is the leave the world drop pool as it is right now, but add designated categories to bosses and activites. E.g Graveward could have a higher chance to drop shields, tyreen could have a higher chance to drop SMG's, Rampager could have s higher chance to drop heavies etc etc. Let's just throw random numbers out there for the sake of discussion, say tyreen have a 10% chance to drop a legendary from the world drop pool, she would also have a 20% chance to drop a random SMG. Makes sense? I think it could be cool and still reward people like me who prefer to just play the game and still get rewarded.
About moze's iron bear, FL4Ks pets - they have issues, but it's absolutely as you say when people want them stronger without actually invest in them.. but i'm a moze main, believe me i've tried make iron bear work and i've suceeded if the modifiers alligned perfectly. But it would never actually compete with moze herself in those situations. I think moze needs a lot of work to get into a good spot. She only got maybe 2 really good class mods and 1 decent (mind sweeper) and 2 kind of really bad ones. I could see them change class mods a bit, especially since some of them makr certain builds super strong. I feel moze' nerfs have been because of her bloodletter mod. Instead of changing it, they went after the skillls that syenergies with it insanely well... which only hurts her other builds that might use the same skill but not clsss mod.
I feel youtube might be a hard place to get s great discussion going - how do i proceed with this derch? Make a post on the forums with your vid as a start refernece?
Yeah make a post on the forums or reddit
..agree with all points here ...
I'm wondering if the boss week event doubled as a field test of what a new loot pool system would look like and how it would work. I didn't do a ton of farming that week, but I did hit up Pain and Terror for mods a bit. I got my mods, but also got some world drops as well. I quite enjoyed it. I can't really speak to the other bosses.
Gearbox should have the Gun Gun drop world drop legendaries or something unique because you shouldn't spend 14k eridium and get only purple and blue guns.
5:00 amen.
What did I say at 5:00?
Personal bank per character
id like lectra city to drop the electric legendaries that'd be interesting
Once gearbox is done with all of the DLC's and Borderlands 3 becomes complete, I would like to hear that they are starting Borderlands 4. 7 years between B2 and B3 is way too long. I don't want them to spit out a borderlands game every year, but every 3 or 4 years would be fine as I want the company to get it right like they did with this game. I think they sat on developing way to long with this game. Enjoying it very much. Just keep them coming!
I want battleborn 2 before borderlands 4
@@Derchlands Fair enough. I would like to see both. Keep them coming
Derch what are your thoughts towards the Jakobs snipers? (including purples)
I feel like Fl4k and Amara are doing all the work and the snipers are good but could have a bit more of a punch...
I haven't played around with many non legendary ones in endgame yet
Side note aswell, would be great to have different loadout saves, this respec carry on is getting a bit much, I main Amara would be great to just switch from melee to elemental build
I've just given up on respecing and starting making different characters entirely and refarming everything.
@@HenryMyth I'm the same now im not bothering anymore they can stay the way they are
Idk if i messed up the build somehow... when you phasegrasp, all you skills and buffs jump up to 25. does it just not work on console, a bug, or that's just PC?
It's the com
But we already have a build test dummy! We all know it as Graveward! Lol
A test dummy is not a build test, it's a figure out mechanics test.
How many month has it been since moze was nerfed into the ground? They still haven't even tried to fix her or half her skills that are useless. Pretty safe to say they only care about what influencers say.
Why won’t they fix gamma burst revive glitch, it’s so frustrating I’ve not been able to use a whole action skill since day one and they never bother to fix it or even say they are looking into it.
They haven't mentioned every bug they are working on. Have you reported it?
For the devs: Lots of general optimization issues. Can we get 60 fps without building a PC or buying an elite console? The dynamic UI is unreliable and sticky at times, especially when looking at weapons on the ground (my weapon's stats will sometimes just stay there until I unequip it).
For the playerbase: PLEASE do not use the highest possible difficulty as a measuring stick for a class's viability. Using BL2 as a reference, the sentence "if it can't do OP10 it sucks" is objectively wrong for ignoring everything that comes beforehand. Don't do the same with Mayhem in this game. Focus on the journey, not the destination.
I just want to say this !The witcher 3 and DAINQUISITION have both unlimited bank or storage capacity so why can't we not get the same in Borderlands 3, I am playing on TVHM mayham 1 just to get slowly legendary weapons and let am still full .I hate that. We want not double but unlimited storage capacity.
Because the gear system is way different.
we have loot o grams as well could put more into that pool im not quite sure whats in there now ?
Lucians call and wagon wheel
Péter Zsédely already 3 different guns. If they were to add more stuff, they’d defintely have to increase the drop rate of legendaries from the trade in with earl
@@jamesgent5897 yeah i agree, but what is the 3rd gun?
Péter Zsédely butcher
Jesus christ derch, no one ever said that world drops should be removed for the sake of dedicated drops
I did hear it said move drops from one pool to another
@@Derchlands even if so, why are you giving attention to such stupid takes?
On the subject of Iron Bear you seem to be speaking from a place of ignorance, you don't play Moze so fair enough, But there's only one skill that boosts Iron Bear's damage and it's only by 25% and on top of that outside of the mini guns there's no reason to use any of Iron bear's other weapons. Even the earliest levels you can unlock them in normal mode they do basically no damage. Pretty much everything to do with Iron Bear needs a rework. The only thing he's useful for endgame is to save yourself from dying.
i am still waiting for the beta to end
I'm still waiting for people to stop saying stupid shit.
@@Derchlands He is not wrong though? It's just a state of AAA gaming, games get released before they are ready, when publishers say so. Bl3 had one of the worst releases I experienced on PC in years, and more than a month later perfomance is still awful, and I'm not even talking about balance, broken skills and undercooked mayhem mode that they forced on us
The issue I take with the underlying message as expressed in the first few minutes is this: an idea only needs a few dedicated proponents to create a vocal minority. That vocal minority can create work, to put it plainly, for people who do not want a change in some particular area.
There are several opinions that you express which I disagree with vehemently, and I believe I see the underlying theory that justifies them as a family (see: all the features which make the game unsolvable that you constantly criticize). Just because Gearbox isn't comfortable advocating for their original position doesn't mean I should have to on the forums. I don't want to sell Gearbox's positions without being on their payroll.
I don't mean any disrespect, and I'm not saying you need to exhaust the conversation yourself, but the conversation might be healthier if partisan language like "we need x" or "y is bad, z would be better" were prefaced as being partisan, or just substituted with their underlying arguments and you allowing the conclusions to be self-evident.
You hold these conclusions, and you have the enthusiasm to leverage your platform. But you don't speak for everyone. Please be mindful of that.
I'm not trying to speak for everyone, I was encouraging people to speak for them selves, then I spoke for myself.
I'm not sure what you were getting at in your second paragraph, can you clarify or expand?
@@Derchlands That's fair. You have spoken for yourself, and you've encouraged me to do the same. I'll concede that point and simply renew my final appeal.
The second paragraph is appealing to a family of features which all serve to make the game difficult to "solve". They include:
Severe mayhem modifiers serving to force the adoption of varied or flexible strategies
No target dummy serving to prolong the period where game mechanics remain unknown
Few dedicated loot drops serving to make it difficult to create how-tos on how to replicate another person's build
Limited storage to force players to try builds which are only selecting from an incomplete menu
Randomized passives on shields, coms, and relics to prevent one-size-fits-all best-in-slots
These features each lead me to believe gearbox doesn't want a solvable game. They want a game open to hands-on experimentation and unique to each player. Their campaign to ensure every item is meticulously balanced with its peers seems to be in concert with these goals--if any reasonable approach is equally viable, the game doesn't *need* solving.
@@Derchlands I see the paragraph at issue has two points. How imprecise of me. My other point is that game design is not self-evidently either a democracy or an adversarial process. There is a danger that excessive zeal will end a conversation before all interested parties are even aware an adverse change to the current system is something they should be mobilizing against--precisely because the process is not a democratic one. Were the process democratic, it would presumably reach a broader audience of more diverse views.
Relatedly, Gearbox has not been advocating for "unpopular" features of the game, merely addressing those complaints they hear most loudly. Because those with the fewest complaints have the least incentive to step in to fill that gap in adversarialism, I am not confident we are getting the best outcomes at the greatest efficiency using your proposed method. Instead, I see it producing a pendulum effect at best, where the other camp of enfranchised players mobilize in the opposite direction at a certain point, or a repellant effect at worst, where parties satisfied with the early design philosophy of the game gravitate away as vocal interests have their narrow needs met
@@Derchlands I suppose I'd just add one more thought. I have listed five features that you dislike that are all in service of a goal which can be explained in a sentence or two. It appears to be a concerted design philosophy. I would be more amenable to your criticisms (and since I am a subscriber, you can infer I am already very amenable to them) if they were rooted in a design philosophy--Derch's Vision for Borderlands 3, as it were.
It's easy to lose the forest for the trees in conversations like the ones we are having surrounding these issues. I believe you do an excellent job in this video in your discussion of pet balancing. The viability of any one aspect of a character should come at an opportunity cost. Yes, perfect, that is a principle that we can attempt to come to some consensus on. People calling for a pet buff with no principles underlying their demand? There's no conversation there. Unless Gearbox just polls us, asking, "should pets be buffed," they have no roadmap for what people really want, just a single datapoint in a sea of voices. We need to find the underlying principles we can agree on so we can receive something truly satisfactory to a wide audience.
I think it would be cool to increase Iron bears damage if you activate the action skill after a critical kill, or it can use stacks of her kills skills (phalanx etc.) that she already has and consume them to do more damage.
I hate circle of slaughter type of things in these games. Always have. I hope they don't put a specific legendary drop for that mode.
Fink's was one of my favorite parts of bl2. This makes me sad
@@Derchlands I think more people like it than dislike it. I did enjoy Fink's more than Moxxi's from BL1 ..... and why did I just call it BL1 instead of BL? lol
@@Derchlands Also I'd like to add that I might enjoy BL3's version more if it wasn't constant launcher spam. I just find that very annoying.
I really want cosmetics to be removed from the loot pool once they're unlocked. And just a reminder for some of the people in this community, crying about nerfs is not constructive change, it's just pointless bitching.
I'm definitely not on the Borderlands 2 side of loot drops. Although there were dedicated sources drop rates were way to low, which is why loot midgets were such a big thing. I like the drop rates we have now, especially if you want to get a specific version of a weapon and need to get the drop many, many times.
Why not just almost infinite personal bank space, say 9999 slots. Why even add some arbitrary limit?
Because guns in the bank or backpack take resources, resources are not unlimited.
@@Derchlands ok but I would say that the information about a gun isn't that big, its just some numbers. However thinking about it I bet that the menu lag would be crazy with too many guns being loaded.
This video really fell on deaf ears. This is what MAK has been trying to tell everyone recently. And what do you know? One of the other classic BL2 CZcamsrs made a video telling just the same thing years ago. WE can CHANGE the game. Gearbox can and has listened to us. Now all the new trash creators were paid off and the entire borderlands community thinks there’s no reason to say anything. That we can’t change anything. And they have been so damn brainwashed that nobody wants gearbox to make the games better. It’s absolutely insane how disgustingly stupid this has all become. Community wants shit games that last for a year, the devs are half adding the games, and the content creators are just sitting there waiting for the next sponsorship. If it was sunshine and rainbows then all of the old Borderlands CZcamsrs wouldn’t have left (or got fired). They knew and still know that we could have such a better experience. Yet…as said…the community…has lost the plot.
Hey, remember when I commented on your Amara vid because I wanted to have a legitimate discussion about the flaws in the game, which greatly disappointed me, and you shut it down?
You're being a hypocrite. I was trying to support the channel of a content creator who I learned from and respected, doing EXACTLY what you're suggesting people do (except on a channel, not the forums. Personally, I think having discussions on a channel is also effective.)
Encourage people to try to influence the game going forward, or stop discussion about legitimate gripes with this, objectively, very flawed game.
Pick. One.
He must have realized he was wrong considering his channel is dead now.
aaaaaaaaaaaaaand the game has gone to utter shit
This video really fell on deaf ears. This is what MAK has been trying to tell everyone recently. And what do you know? One of the other classic BL2 CZcamsrs made a video telling just the same thing years ago. WE can CHANGE the game. Gearbox can and has listened to us. Now all the new trash creators were paid off and the entire borderlands community thinks there’s no reason to say anything. That we can’t change anything. And they have been so damn brainwashed that nobody wants gearbox to make the games better. It’s absolutely insane how disgustingly stupid this has all become. Community wants shit games that last for a year, the devs are half assing the games, and the content creators are just sitting there waiting for the next sponsorship. If it was sunshine and rainbows then all of the old Borderlands CZcamsrs wouldn’t have left (or got fired). They knew and still know that we could have such a better experience. Yet…as said…the community…has lost the plot.