ANGLESET The easy way to set up machines to cut angles
Vložit
- čas přidán 7. 07. 2023
- In this video, we show the design, make and use of an aid to setting angles on all machines in a home workshop. Free plans available
To download a copy of the plans/drawings, please use this link:
drive.google.com/uc?export=do...
Channel artwork: Ryan Toomey - Věda a technologie
All, please go to the description for a link to the plans/drawings
Hi Jon this a great article. However id like to know how it can be applied to cut angle slotting on the large flat surface of a workpiece which is what i need to do soon. In other words angle slot being perpendicur to either the length or width of workpiece. I really like the use of article on a lathe compound to set for taper angles. Anticipating your answer.
I will download it and get a quote from one of those online CNC shops. Would be a cool tool to have. Thanks for the Idea! Could you also uplad the Freecad file?
Free plans?
@@janeblogs324 yes, just click on the link to download
By using pins 38 and 39 as a sign bar add a sleeve to give an ofset of 1/2/2.5/3/4 degrees will alow to allone degree settings pluus 22.5 and 37.5 Roderick
Brilliant idea Jon. Will definitely be looking to add this to my hobby shop tools. Thanks for generously providing plans. Regards from Australia
Thanks Colin👍
This is an angle block system that is similar in basic function to a simple indexing system Joe Pie demonstrated about 5 years ago in a video titled _No Indexing Head...Not a problem - Take a look_
I really liked that fixture Joe demonstrated and I wondered if it could be applied to angles.
I really like this solution.
From Australia well done.
Hi Tony, thanks for the comment and feedback, not sure I have seen Joe's video but will take a look. Cheers, Jon
@@jonsworkshop No probs - keep up the good work. 👍👍
That's a very handy tool. It's obvious there is a fair bit of thinking in this one.
Hi Rusti, thanks for the comment. There certainly was some head scratching done, not least learning a new CAD system lol. Cheers, Jon
Hi Jon Great idea. Thank you for sharing. To make your idea even better.......consider placing two 90 degree cutouts in the base at your required spacing to suit your vice. If you do your maths correctly lay a gauge pins in these cutouts to jack up your angle gauge. Just make one gauge pin greater in diameter. The aim is to add 0.5 degrees to all your readings. By this simple modification you can double the number of angles. So all your angles are now in 0.5 degree increments. Hope this helps. Cheers from OZ.
Your idea is a good one for sure. To add to your approach the fixture could be fashioned much like a sine bar for any angle you need. Then the 5 degree increments would be added to the base angle. Again, your idea is a good one.
Nice Vernier function 👌
Hi John, thanks for the comment and suggestion. There are so many ways to adapt this basic concept, and yours is a great idea. Cheers, Jon
eyup Jon
Great concept and kind gesture for the drawings, grey cells are well excersiced now😂😂😉😉👍👍👍👍
bfn
Kev
Hi Kev, thanks for the comment. They are now, keeping up with emails lol. Rod, back! 🤔😁
Brilliant idea, thanks for your generosity.
My pleasure David👍
Jon, I’ve downloaded your plans and had a quick look over them. Great idea. Thanks for your generosity in making them available.
Hi Andrew, thanks for the comment, happy to help. Cheers, Jon
Gday Jon, that’s a brilliant idea and a really good project to do, thanks for sharing mate, cheers
Thanks Matty, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
Sweet Jesus where has this tool been all my life.
Brilliant, thanks for your generosity.
Thanks!
I am willing to wait for the plans if you can add the holes for MT 2,3,4, and maybe 5. Great piece.
Thanks very much indeed. Make sure you email me please with your comment below. Cheers, Jon
@@jonsworkshop Where is your email address found?
@@deechase5195 hi, it is on the intro and outtro screen on every one of my videos, i can't put it here in the comment section as CZcams will remove it. Thanks
OK, I love this already, and the video hasn't started yet. A huge thanks in advance, Jon.
I’ve just stumbled across you channel Jon… 👌
This one will be on the to do list 👍
Thanks Jon, and I apologise in the delay in sending you some coin, as promised. I am about to embark on the project. Again, such a great idea and I doth my cap for you. Best regards Geoff Bertolini.
Hi Geoff, thanks very much indeed, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
Very nice and generous! Thank you.
I second the idea that this was very well thought out in order to be a marketable item. Good luck, Jon.
I expect I’ll be seeing this in SHARS catalog one day
This video has been up for almost a day so there's doubt in my mind there's a Chineseium version in the works as you read this.
Hi Kimber, thanks for the comment and feedback. Lol, it's probably already in there!! Cheers, Jon
@@dennythomas8887 you are so right lol
@@dennythomas8887 ANGLeze + Vario.tec + Tormach + Kurt + snapjaws have beaten them to it.
Fantastic design. Definitely going to make one!
Thanks i don't know if my brain can handle anymore stuff but please keep puting it out ,there's a lot of us out here with all the gear and no idea and without the like of YOU and joe ,mr pete and so on we would just be polishing old iron ,thanks
Hi Martin, thanks for the comment, I will do my best😀
Dear Jon, Great idea and bless you for your generosity.
Hi mate good to see you back matty and me thorough you had gone missing 😅😅
Hi Trev, yup, still this side of the grass, don't worry 😉
Thanks for the videos, some money for the shop and a token for the angleset plans
Hi Stephen, thanks for the comment and support, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
Thanks Jon, an excellent idea - thanks
Very welcome
Thanks for making the plans available.
No problem 👍
Brilliant idea Jon, very handy piece of kit... I'm adding it to the list..
ATB....Cheers
Thanks Dean
Thank you for the video and the great idea.
Thanks Bruce
I Like it ! Beauty.
My first visit here, I'm in. Subscribed. Thank you.
Thanks, you are very welcome here, I hope you find the content interesting.
Excellent setting tool, very well designed and made, great name "AngleSet".
Like the idea of through holes, zero chance of bottoming out, obviously dowel length minus 1mm of block.
Brilliant job Jon, must have been a very blonde in a black dress, or 2 (Guinness).
Love your dads Sine bar unit, very nice.
Never heard the expression "Too Baggy", ref oversize reamed hole, definitely a localism 😅.
Thanks for sharing and best regards from the Black Country.
John.
Thanks
Hi John, thanks for the comment and feedback. Baggy must be a Lincolnshire thing then lol. I guess I could have used Max Grants 'Cock in a shirt sleeve' lol🤣🤣🤣
Wonderful video, I have downloaded your plans and in the process of making my own angle plate. Thanks from Alabama
Brilliant! I need one of these! I owe you a Guinness.
Hi mchiodox69, just ping me an email demanding drawings and I will get something out to you 😊
Great job Jon. Many thanks for the drawings. You are generous with us. I will do it asap .
Didier - Britany - France
Thanks, no problem. Cheers, Jon
Love it. Definitely making one.
Thanks for passing your brain child along! Well thought out.
Greetings from Kansas USA.
Thanks, much appreciated
Dear Jon, thanks for presenting this great idea. Your sequential approach is excellent: Introduce the topic, demonstrate the finished part, technical drawings, manufacture and finally demonstrate its use. So many CZcams presenters dive into a half hour video making something without giving the viewer a clue as to what they are making. Frustrating. Your approach should become the gold standard in presentation sequence. Cheers.
Thanks for the great feedback Peter, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
Thanks for sending the plans Jon.
Hi Gary, thanks very much indeed, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
Brilliant thinking. 👌🏼👌🏼
Oh, so it’s not a cribbage board? 🤔
Nicely done Jon 👍!
I think You have achieved Joe Pie level, Sir! Brilliant!
Ha Haa, not quite lol. Cheers, Jon
Great thought and design Jon . Thanks for putting the effort in . Cheers Ade.
Thanks Ade, hope you are feeling better mate
Jon, a quick research on Q1 and W1 steels, the letters denote water and oil, with the W1 being a bit cheaper than the O1 plus some discrepancies between them on hardness and toughness.
Enjoyed the video very much. I have only needed an angle gauge a few times over the past years. I use a similar method to make one off's, I think I got it from Joe Pie. Calculate the sine of the angle and use the DRO to drill two holes, with the sine being the offset, pin the two holes and mill the angle resulting.
Well done Jon, take care and cheers!
Hi Howder1951, thanks for the comment. Trigonometry is a wonderful tool, you can solve most problems with it😊
Thanks! This is a nice DIY project.
Hi, thanks very much indeed, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
Thanks for the plans Jon, going to be making it today.
Hi, thanks very much indeed, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
This is a fantastic bit of tooling. Thank you so much for putting the time into this project!
Cheers from Canada
Hi bhein67, thanks for the comment, you are welcome. Cheers, Jon
Great idea Jon. I have been contemplating a set of angle blocks for a while, but as I rarely need them I haven't pulled the trigger. This looks like a perfect first job for the CNC (so that'll be in about 5 years time!) I'll definitely be adding the Morse Taper angles to it, that'll be very useful.
Hi Olly, email sent, I will have a go for you ahead of DXF export when I get a few minutes lol. Cheers, Jon
@@jonsworkshop thanks Jon, email received. No urgency for the DXF, I won't get to it for a while. I could recreate it from the drawing, but there's a chance of human error (nothing to do with lazyness!)
@@jonsworkshop Hi John, could you share DXF or cad file, please?
Thank you very much, this is much needed for an old, retired, clumsy hobbyist like me !!!
Bloody great idea
I would like a set of your plansThanks!
Thanks Bob, hopefully sent. Cheers, Jon
Unexpected useful tidbit: plunge a center drill to full depth, so you don’t need to have a center-cutting endmill :-)
(Great design on the jig too!)
Hi Dave, thanks for the comment, yes, for shallow pockets a centre drill will do fine, for deeper ones you may need to follow with a drill. Cheers, Jon
Very clever idea.......Thanks
Thank you very much for taking the time to produce the plans. I know all too well the effort that goes into them.
Thanks Gordon, much appreciated.
that is so simple and easy, I may have to make one, thanks Jon.
Go for it!
Clever design, Jon.
Great idea john there are so many great ideas from different people I would have not thought of that myself lol.
Thanks Dermot
fantastic idea 😁👌👍
mt addition would be the icing on the cake 😁
thank you very much for sharing this
My pleasure 😊
Cool idea.
Hi, thanks very much indeed, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
Fabulous bit of kit there Jon. Very clever!
Thanks 👍
Great idea. Joe Pie had a similar method but for only one designated angle.
I’ve seen a commercial jig like this for setting a table saw miter gage. I’ve been planning on making a copy but this looks a lot more versatile.
Thanks John, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
Your video really explains it very clearly
THANKYOU for sharing the drawings
My pleasure 😊
Hi Jon, Great to see you back doing some 'proper' work hahaaaa! Very well thought out idea 👍👍
Hi Del, hope you are well. Point taken, looks like your views are shared lol. Cheers, Jon
Youre a fantastic teacher John...would you consider a short video explaining how to overcome the neg/pos backlash readings for us poor fellas who dont have a DRO..regards from SA
Hi Leonard, thanks for the comment and feedback. I will put it on the list for future tips videos. Cheers, Jon
Thanks Jon. A brilliant piece of work. Top of my project list,
Hi, thanks very much indeed, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
Just brilliant Jon!
Great idea. Outstanding work. 😉😉
Well played Jon! 👏
Thanks Dan, did you email me? I have had so many I haven't had time to figure out who's who. Just ping me a mail saying 'plans please' and I will catch you in tomorrow's tranche. Cheers, Jon
@@jonsworkshop All set Jon you got me via email already. Thanks again!
Many thanks for that inspiration Jon! I have now made my own version on a slightly larger plate (114 x 40) but only drilled the left hand holes with the datum hole about 30mm from the right end. Just flip the plate over to get the opposite hand. It means the holes can be a bit further apart, so made them 4mm dia. I'll send you a drawing & .step file.
Hi, thanks for the comment, I think it's great that people are re-designing / modifying the concept, superb stuff. Cheers, Jon
Awesome!!
Thank you!
That is a cracking idea Jon . looks like it was invented by someone who used to run a Ward peg board lathe ! 👍👍👍
Hi Max, lol, it's almost like you knew lol. They weren't Wards (can't remember the make) but spent many hours setting and running peg board autos. Cheers, Jon
Thanks for all your work on this Jon. Much appreciated.
Hi, thanks very much indeed, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
A very high quality presentation. Thank you for kindly sharing the excellent drawings and being the spark to ignite additional great ideas from some of the commentaries.
Hi, no bother, glad it is useful. Cheers, Jon
Great idea and work. Thank you very much!
Thanks
Thanks very much indeed. Cheers, Jon
Nice one Jon, looks like I have another project 🤗👍
Hi Terry, thanks for the comment. Lol, I will keep inventing them for you 🤣🤣
Brilliant idea and execution Jon. Well done.
Look forward to building the Angleset, it will be very useful.
Thanks for the comment. Be aware of the 45 degree x position error on the left hand side as you look at the drawing, it should be a minus X not a plus. Good luck
Hi Jon.Thank you for the plans down load hope to make it at later time when I have finished the work
With my DRO. From Brian w.germany
Very clever idea, and well executed!
Love it. That is a must have for some of us that see a STOP sign when it comes to sine bars. I would love a set of those plans so I can build one myself.
Hi, thanks for the comment. Email me if you haven't already and I will send out no problem. Cheers, Jon
@@jonsworkshop thank you. I emailed you so I will look forward to getting them and getting started on the machining. That really is a great design. Can't wait to build it.
Good idea, Jon. Simple to use as well. Looks like it could be a future project. Cheers Tony
Hi Tony, thanks for the comment, let me know when you are ready and I'll send you the latest plans, I think there's improvement time yet. Cheers, Jon
Thank you Jon for the work put in. I didn't know about your channel until this video popped up on my feed. I'll check out your channel in more detail now. And I subscribed.
Hi, thanks for the comment, I hope you find the content interesting and Informative. Cheers, Jon
Got the drawings jon great idea and video keep up the good work loving the vids
Thanks Graeme, just be aware the 45 degree position on the LHS as you look at the front of the unit should have a minus X position, not a positive. Good luck, very useful bit of kit. Cheers, Jon
Hi Jon. A wonderful idea and it has many applications and a time saver.
I like it. Well thought out and easy to use. Nice job!
Thanks Tom, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
Hi John, Great idea. I have struggled for several years to get any accurate angles on my milling machine other than 90 and 60. Like you I have a import mill on which is not easy to set the head angle so I don't move it unless absolutely necessary . Thanks for the download of the plans. Will come back to you in a couple of months when I have made the "angleset"
Cheers from Western Australia
Hi David, thanks for the comment. I hope you find it useful, it's already earning it's keep in my workshop 😊. Cheers, Jon
That’s a fantastic tool! Great video Jon!
Jon, an ingenious tool and professionally made. You clearly have confidence in your vice surfaces (tramming). Accurate work setup in the mill is something I'm only just beginning to explore. I'm much more confident on the lathe at this point. Thanks for sharing. Cheers Paul
Hi Paul, thanks for the comment. Yes, I am pretty confident I understand my Mills accuracy now, but it's accuracy or lack of squareness to itself in any plane will affect an angled face output regardless of the method used to set up etc. As you progress with your mill, you will 'get to know' how it behaves and you can then work round/improve some of the misgivings. Cheers, Jon
Great solution Jon and a well made tool. Thank you for sharing sir.
Joe
what a great idea Jon. Thanks for sharing your awesome work
Well thought out piece of kit Jon
Absolutly brilliant. Thank you for all your hard work on this. And to offer it to the world even more amazing. I wish you all the best. Thank you.
Thanks Mike, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
Great work on this one Jon. Well though out and the end product is fantastic. I have angle blocks and as you say you need 3 hands to hold everything in place and clamp down the work. This is a really good idea.
Thanks John, let me know if you need the drawings. Cheers, Jon
Great idea 👍👍 I will put it on my workshop projects to do list. Regards Peter.
Thanks Peter 👍
Such a great idea, and expertly machined. Thank you for sharing. 👏👏👍😀
Thanks Andrew
This was a fabulous video. I have been stuck a few times trying to set angles. Nice Video.
Thanks for the comment, much appreciated. Cheers, Jon
Hey Jon. A top notch video for a top notch tool.
Definately something to have in your toolbox. I to have one of those mills and really dread changing the angle of the head to get theright milling angle but this is a game changer for that.
Cheers 👍
Kurt has something like this for their 6” vises. It’s a jaw. I have a 4” and there is nothing for that size. I made a simpler one than theirs, and yours, but it seems to work well. I like this one.
The trick to have something that will allow you to mill to a paper thickness is to make two jaws. The one you set to goes to the fixed jaw. The other is exactly the same, except that the holes are a small amount larger. Now, when you put the work in, the excess length of the pins go into the holes in the second jaw and you don’t need a number of different length pins. If you make the jaws thick enough, that will cover a fair amount of work thicknesses. The pins don’t have to as long as the part is wide, just enough to hold it straight
Hi Mel, thanks for the comment. I have tried with a 3" block with only 0.25" pin stick out, as long as the faces of the block that meet the two jaws are parallel, it works well. I tapped the moving jaw (casting not part) after tightening to settle the lift and it worked very well, admittedly on a one off test. Cheers, Jon
Nice one Jon 👍👍👍
Very well thought out bit of kit.
Very clever! Thank you for sharing you ingenuity! Impressive!
Hi Ron, thanks for the feedback and support.
Great idea!
Something else just occurred to me. I was thinking about how cool it would be if this included a finer resolution of angles, say 1deg increments (instead of 5).
That obviously isn't viable, the block would be impossibly perforated.
But if you combined the typical 1 through 5deg angle blocks from the block set you referenced, even the 1/4 and 1/2deg blocks, which are relatively short in height, then you have a MUCH greater resolution.
I suspect you figured this out, but it didn't seem to make the video.
Did I miss it?