Troy Baker, Ashley Johnson & Neil Druckmann discuss the Hardest Scene to shoot in Last of Us Part 2
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- The Last of Us Part II Ellie Joel Cinematic Cutscene Director Commentary
The Last of Us Part 2 Remastered Ellie finds out the truth cutscene director's commentary
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The Last of Us Part 2 Remastered Director Commentary Neil Druckmann Ashley Johnson Troy Baker Laura Bailey HaHalley Gross
The Last of Us Part II Remastered Director's Commentary Neil Druckmann Ashley Johnson Troy Baker Laura Bailey HaHalley Gross
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Whether or not you hate the direction of where the story went, no doubt we can all agree that the acting in the games are amazing. The Last of Us is no doubt one of the first series/games that looked the world in the eyes and said "I am art. Look at me. Breathe me in."
Red Dead Redemption 1 and GTA 4 would like a word with you.
Definitely
@@jres1995 no bro even earlier than that. Majora’s Mask, Shadow of the Colossus, Metal Gear, Silent Hill etc. There were so many amazing artistic games before The Last of Us, GTA or Red Dead
The last of us 1 + 2 game and story line > any GTA or red dead redemption by a mile and a half
@@jordanh806 lmao RDR2 is a better story than both Last of Us games combined by a large margin
the acting in this game is just phenomenal
most modern movies can’t even match it
Thanks for uploading these it’s hard to find most of these scenes with the director commentary.
Neil does nail how Ellie making that threat of "lie to me and you'll never know my fate", which scared Joel more than the truth, trapped him right there. No matter what he would say, she'd hate him and he knew it. Even the life they built together as father and daughter doesn't take away from the fact he took away an important decision from her, regardless of the circumstances. The worst of it though being that he lied and maintained the lie despite their bond. He dreaded the day but knew somehow he was delaying the inevitable time she would view him with disgust. Even with all that, some part of Ellie still wanted to believe Joel didn't massacre the Fireflies. For he knew she wanted the deaths and choices that got her to the Fireflies be sacrificed for a meaningful purpose: save humanity whatever the cost. For her to dread being proven right about her skepticism adds even more devastation to the both of them.
This was a very organic painful scene wonderfully executed by the cast and crew.
I always thought this direction was pretty stupid and made Ellie seem even stupider. You can’t tell me how that at the end of the game Ellie didn’t know Joel was bullshitting her, you could literally see it in her eyes. She didn’t want to lose what she gained in Joel, she witnessed first hand how awful the remnants of humanity could be and seeing a flicker of compassion she grasped to keep it. They could have gone with the direction that she didn’t want to believe it but couldn’t deny the truth any longer but they didn’t.
Neil Druckmann: 'ive had those moment with my kids, where they're mad at me over something' I mean i have a feeling theyre mad at you over what happened to joel
Really? You have to stoop this low
@@arnavwagh6710 i honestly dont mind what they did with part 2, just thought the idea itself was funny
@@BoyPorcelainyou were mistaken
So, to anyone who has watched the Closer Look's video on this game, you'll know what I'm talking about:
The revised version of this game is better when it comes to this plotline. Ellie, later in this hypothetical story, gets another chance to offer her life up to a doctor who can make a vaccine with her immunity- and she hesitates. At that moment, she realizes that she never considered what her choice would be if it was her choice. And that is the turning point in her relationship with Joel, that's how she starts to forgive him.
I think that's way better than how it was in the real game.
The Closer Look’s version would be awful. It reads like bad fan-fiction with a bunch of contrivances and schlocky moments, especially the stupid evil general character and Ellie calling Joel dad. Just no. And he has the most surface level takes of all the other content he reviews. The Dune video he deleted was a great example of how botched that story would’ve been if he wrote it
That’s stupid. 1 just finding another doctor would be extremely difficult and a big stretch for a dumb moment because 2, Ellie would have 100% sacrificed herself, as she made extremely clear throughout part 2
I just don't buy into anything in this game. This scene took place 2 years before Joel died and before Ellie and Joel had their conversation on the porch where she said she would like to try and forgive him. We're supposed to buy, that Ellie (in 2 years), did not talk to Joel and avoided him?? She had no other questions?? Didn't want to fully understand what happened and what he did? No questions about Marlene? (Who was basically a 2nd mother to Ellie in the first game).
They finally have their conversation on the porch (again, 2 years after this scene at the hospital) where she expresses how she feels and Joel says he would do it all over again. Then, the next day he gets brutally murdered by Abby? It just makes no sense.
Ellie is an emotional person. And we see this in the first game. An example would be how she wants to talk about what happened with Henry and Sam (Joel pushes the idea away by saying "Things happen, and we move on") and they dont discuss it.
Point being, Ellie would have wanted more here. And their conversation on the porch heavily implies that they did not speak about any of it since this scene at the hospital where Joel comes clean.
Make it make sense. The writing in TLOU2 is a mess.
I don’t think the game needs to over explain things to get its point across, like her breaking down outside the hospital after she realizes what Joel did, I think we can assume that she knows Marlene is dead. That moment in the aftermath where they discuss Henry and Sam is an example of Joel compartmentalizing his feelings and shutting Ellie down, gaslighting her, something that he does in this game in certain scenes.
This confrontation outside the hospital and her last conversation w/ Joel on his porch puts everything into perspective. When Joel is killed, it becomes clear to Ellie that she wasted those last few remaining years resenting and ignoring him because of the incident w/ the fireflies. Ellie’s revenge mission was fueled by her guilt in not forgiving him sooner and making amends while he was still alive. I think when Ellie finds Abby in the pillars w/ Lev, she gets to see firsthand a lot of Joel in Abby, the protector who grew and had a change of heart because of a kid, something that I think influenced her decision in letting her go.
@@kush6846 I think you well explained the EMOTIONAL part of the scene but unfortunately this should never exist in that way... it sad that the writers crate this only for emotional part for Ellie and and ignore all the logical errors with the paicing/characters decisions of the story and fast traveling issue + too many coincidences (in all the game) and it's one of them... for me it's one of the most unbelievable scene simply by LOGIC: Ellie by age 16 traveling ALONE by herself knowing her past experiences of being kidnaped; potentially raped and killed again; RISK it all and go from Jackson to St. Mary's Hospital in Salt Lake City, Utah so it's around 280 miles/450km (x 2 because the characters need go back to Jackson) is a major fast traveling/paicing issue - the danger is gone when in part I it was hard to get here; seems like Ellie is well prepared herself and magically knows the map of the world and find that place without 0 errors; have infinite access to the food etc.); so the probability of Ellie not being in any danger in that kind of travel is bothering me because in my opinion it's more believable that guy who was hit with the light 7 times will be hit again then this event xD + 2 x because moment's latter Joel show's up and magically finds her (at this point that travel could be major 1-2h part of the game but it was only like a 2-5 min. cut scenes but it still doesn't make sense in my opinion) and of course the writers used him here with the sad face and he didn't bother to explain a shit just "the cure would killed you so I stopped them" - well it's miss opportunity for Joel to expelling what happened from A [Ellie drowning] to Z [lied to Ellie] and what he's done and how he felt and why he lied to her (at least latter in the game we have scene with him that he would do it all over again if the lord give him a chance hehe)... the events before that: that she finds Nora recording and listening about what happened from Nora perspective is a major issue of pacing and coincidence that it's Nora that we killed before this scene (I could be wrong here but I remembered it that way that was Nora voice on the recording)... 2nd problem that this place after 2 years was empty and the recording was magically there just waiting for Ellie (this place should be on FEDRA possession or be full with the fungus-zombie being)... 3rd that this scene impaling that she wanted be sacrificed for the cure but she is not realizing that Marlene and Jerry were the ones that took that chance from her by simply not waking her up and Joel was in "protecting daughter" mod because it goes back to Joel not telling her what happened so she's mad at him and blame him for everything - because the writers need an drama between Ellie/Joel to make part II in their mind "work"... hehe I'm curios now if this scene will happening in TV series; if the showrunners have minds they at least will change the location to delete fast-traveling and coincidence issue hehe xD
Have a nice day :)
@@mokate9 your always going to have little contrivances in order to make the story work, I don’t think it’s that big a deal just seems like nitpicking, so yea expect characters teleporting to one location after the next especially in the show
@@kush6846 hehe It was not nitpicking for me hehe... It was exactly my 1st thinking when I played the game and saw the scene back in 2020 (I blame my ISTJ personality when "Thinking" dominated the "Sensing" hehe)... well Details make story great; this scene is unfortunately not well executed (and a lot of other ones too) in my opinion and don't work overall for me; and it's seems to a lot of pp too... :) hehe
I don't like what happened hence the writing is bad. I never heard of 2 people not talking to each other. I'm smart
i loved troy performance i wanna meet him 🫂
Ellie being so mad at Joel for a white lie is crazy to me. So she wanted the fireflies to kill her without her consent? She was ok with them beating the shit out of joel and pondering killing him?
These questions are raised because of the deliberate omission of context so Niel could make this bad fan fiction happen. Truly the worst level of writing ive ever seen from naughty dog.
Yes she did. I think she made that super clear throughout the game.
Meh. The only reason Joel went on a rampage and killed Abbys father was because they refused to let him talk to Ellie before the procedure, then told him to leave or hed be killed. If tjeyd let Ellie make her own decision they wiuldnt have been murder hoboed. And Abby is a trash person. There's no arc, no guilt or remorse, just bites Wlliea finger and is like "Oh let me raise my trans sodekick now"
Druckman doesnt lay ground work. The cjaracters just do what he meeds to move the plot. the show adaptation really highlighted that.
Abby is a trash person just like Ellie is a trash person just like Joel, just like Marlene, just like Abby’s father. That’s the point. Abby’s journey absolutely mirrors Joel’s. Joel has killed a lot of innocent people-even Tommy says he wishes he’d rather died than have survived with Joel. Once he picks up Ellie, there’s no remorse for his past actions, but there is a sort of redemption. The same thing happens for Abby. They’re survivors in this apocalyptic world-guilt or remorse simply slows them down, or prevents them from protecting who they need to.
@soccutd77 on paper yep. But it's execution. We see how Joel went the way he did, how he was before it all, then the small steps as he changes. TBF. none of the characters in 2 have that. I didn't empathize to Abby at all, like I did Joel and Elly
@@thac0twenty377 and then Joel kills all the fireflies and lies to Ellie about it betraying her trust and robbing her of her life’s purpose. Pretty bad stuff objectively.
@soccutd77 yeah. but its motivation, which is why we still talk about it. I played single and again as a parent. I feel of Marlene had let Ellie wake up and talk to Joel he'd have let her do it, it was the taking her away and threatening him that did it. And lying to her, yiu can see it as selfish or just wanting her to have a life, not feeling she needed to die. it's a little of both, but that nuance is what made the whole last hospital scene amazing. and the doctor really should have stepped back not pulled a scalpel at an unstable guy with like 10 weapons. 2 has none of that ambiguity. I see what they were trying for, but character wise it plays very cut and dry
Why are people still thinking killing a kid for nothing is a good thing, the fireflies were fucked up and Joel acted right
What ever happen to" i feel safer when im around you "
Ellies reaction is overexagerated , the characters should of moved on from that event
Literally Joel just needed to tell her how much crazy the fireflies were and her death would have been meaningless anyway
@gaia7240 who knows if they will be successful in makeing a vaccine
The point is , ellie distancing herself from Joel makes little sense when she previously stated
" Don't tell me I would be safer somewhere else because truth is I'll be more scared "
@@mr.eternal4439- Ellie has low self-esteem and survivor's guilt as well as guilt from being immune. Her bite mark is like a tainted mark that she has immense trouble making sense of esp as an orphaned child who has never known unconditional love from a parent before. All these people died and continue to die around her (from infection and the world) and some even died for her. Her default way of processing that is shame
So while yes you are correct, the "logical" thing would be to move, the reality of things is usually much harder to navigate.
I say all this as a former therapist and mental health care worker. The pain, grief, and shame that people carry with them is nothing to scoff at. But it should always be respected cuz the pain usually carries deep lessons of love and growth. In other words, if they can manage, the trauma can help folks reach their highest selves.
Easier said than done tho
i imagine it was hard to film since the scene is a joke and makes no sense.
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@@whiteshadow0122todays writers are trash. All the original writers were push out for woke agenda to fit their narrative of a curtain group. It started with the DLC of Ellie being a lesbian, then it gottens worst with the raising the baby with god whos know you cant have babies without a man, but they did it anyways and treat him he was nothing but a fling. Non of the new characters were likeable. Splat on with the most relatable character known to men if they ever been put into that situation. Heck even red dead redemption 2 has better story ending than last of us 2, and most of the playerbase was men. The whole game was a Guilt trip towards masculinity😂.
@@forbiddenyang I don't get how Ellie being a lesbian is important for the story, but ok. It's just a story about revenge, so whether a character likes man or woman doesn't really matter to me.
Not saying TLOU 2 is perfect or anything, it has lots of pacing issues and some contradictions, but it's far from bad imo.
@whiteshadow0122 bruh she's been a lesbian since the first game keep up
@@forbiddenyanglol you've been watching too many conspiracy videos