Owning this stove could land you in jail

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  • čas přidán 13. 07. 2024
  • Curious about the British Army Hexi stove? Find out why owning one could get you in trouble with the law in this eye-opening video!
    0:00 intro
    1:38 the new law
    2:15 BCB fire dragon
    4:22 outro
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  • @swagmanandy
    @swagmanandy Před měsícem +354

    They got us through the shitstorm that was the Falklands, so sod'em.

    • @roughwalkers
      @roughwalkers Před měsícem +7

      🫡🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿💂‍♀️🇬🇧🗡

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +8

      Thanks for watching

    • @gordonlawrence1448
      @gordonlawrence1448 Před měsícem +2

      some think the gel stoves are better. Let's face it neither can be used for cooking. Personally I use a primus like they use on high ascent climbs with Isopropanol because it's capable of cooking and the fuel is way cheaper even if the stove is eye wateringly expensive.

    • @terencejay8845
      @terencejay8845 Před měsícem +4

      We had an orienteering exercise that had an overnight wild camp, plus using a hexi stove - Tommy Cooker - to make a meal and brew tea. Very efficient both to carry and use.

    • @dilwyn1
      @dilwyn1 Před 28 dny +3

      Well said

  • @_leyrd_.
    @_leyrd_. Před měsícem +425

    So there's people being stabbed all over the place and they're actually bothered about people using what they deem to be the wrong camping equipment. This country really is in trouble.

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +14

      Thanks for watching

    • @MR.TB67
      @MR.TB67 Před měsícem +19

      Probably down to shareholders of the new products 🤭

    • @bengreen171
      @bengreen171 Před měsícem

      yeah, you're right - they've taken literally every policeman off the streets and are doing a house to house search right at this minute to find out who's got illegal fuel - because we all know the government is only capable of doing one thing at a time.
      Don't be so silly.

    • @petetimbrell3527
      @petetimbrell3527 Před měsícem +16

      That's not what the ban is about. Hexamine is used in explosives.

    • @_leyrd_.
      @_leyrd_. Před měsícem +24

      @@petetimbrell3527 Ok, but why is it suddenly a problem? Explosives have always tended to go bang and hurt people/ damage stuff. What's changed to make it an issue now?

  • @richardcarey169
    @richardcarey169 Před měsícem +198

    Loved my Hexi stove, never a problem in two decades of Army Service, just don't cook in your tent, unless you are Military Police and have had your cerebral cortex removed

  • @cuhurun
    @cuhurun Před měsícem +88

    Banning Hexi blocks ?
    Yep, I'm ex army, Royal Anglian.
    So pleased I emigrated many years back. Britain has become a nightmare.

    • @gfuentes8449
      @gfuentes8449 Před 29 dny

      where to? if i can ask

    • @cuhurun
      @cuhurun Před 29 dny +2

      @@gfuentes8449 : Eastern Europe.

    • @Steve24339
      @Steve24339 Před 28 dny +2

      @@cuhurun I fancy Russia now. You know where you stand with a good dictator!!

    • @cuhurun
      @cuhurun Před 27 dny +1

      @@Steve24339 ; I tend to also worry about certain 'western' governments, the sort who instigate, fund and support military coups, such as the one which occurred in the Ukraine back during 2014.
      Always tends to cause a bit of a ruckus, especially when the hard-line next door neighbour takes no s___ from anyone.

    • @Steve24339
      @Steve24339 Před 27 dny +2

      @@cuhurun I remember the words of another old soldier, (fictional), "Were doomed Mr Mannering, were doomed".

  • @Jack_Warner
    @Jack_Warner Před měsícem +144

    Back in 2017, I was cooking some bacon and eggs, in Ashdown Forest, Sussex. Two female dog walkers reported me to a warden, who swiftly arrived on the scene to tell me that I wasn't allowed to use a camping stove between certain months. I was using a Coleman Dual Fuel stove. It was a damp morning, so no chance of setting the forest alight, but he told me I could cook in the back of my van. I could see his point if I'd lit a fire, and the undergrowth was dry, but he couldn't see my way of thinking. Anyway, he drove off as soon as he'd gone, I finished my cooking where I'd started. There are so many people looking to grass on others.

    • @petetimbrell3527
      @petetimbrell3527 Před měsícem +62

      Me and my mrs were "caught" lighting a small bbq fire by a nasty old bat last week.
      She said she was going to report me to the landowner and the police.
      I told her that not only was it my own field, but also that she and her dog could fu*k right off because she was trespassing.
      Always rewarding, that.

    • @robanderson473
      @robanderson473 Před měsícem +10

      ​@@petetimbrell3527Ha, nice one!

    • @Jack_Warner
      @Jack_Warner Před měsícem +14

      @@petetimbrell3527 Brilliant! I really cannot tolerate a grass. Someone grassed us up to the council for putting up a stable on our own land. It wasn't causing any problems, as we are isolated from other properties. It was just someone walking by with their dog.

    • @gregtaylor6146
      @gregtaylor6146 Před měsícem

      Were you EVER told 'no' as the spoilt brat you no-doubt were ........??

    • @angelah2083
      @angelah2083 Před měsícem +9

      I wonder what gifts the dogs had left behind to pollute the forest?

  • @MadDogSurvival
    @MadDogSurvival Před měsícem +223

    We are policed by consent….. most of us do not consent to our current police !

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +7

      Thanks for watching

    • @ChasingMasons
      @ChasingMasons Před měsícem +13

      Finally, someone else who knows how it really is!
      Godspeed brother.

    • @MadDogSurvival
      @MadDogSurvival Před měsícem +5

      👍🏻👍🏻😎

    • @redpillnibbler4423
      @redpillnibbler4423 Před měsícem

      🎯 spot on.
      The police serve the government not the people.

    • @MDM1992
      @MDM1992 Před měsícem

      I never consented to 99 percent of the bullshit legislation they pass without our knowledge.. the more you read the more you want to riot.

  • @RagingPaganFilms
    @RagingPaganFilms Před měsícem +79

    Oxalic acid has been banned as well. It's now illegal to possess rhubarb.

    • @blueband8114
      @blueband8114 Před měsícem +20

      Shit, I ate homemade Rhubarb crumble the other day. My arse is now a controlled chemical producer

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 Před měsícem +2

      😂👌

    • @iggzistentialism8458
      @iggzistentialism8458 Před měsícem +1

      Only oxalic acid 10%+...I think you're good

    • @doonhamer252
      @doonhamer252 Před měsícem +1

      @@blueband8114 embrace it like the first time nookie..

    • @AndyHullMcPenguin
      @AndyHullMcPenguin Před 29 dny +4

      @@iggzistentialism8458 So what you are saying is that I'm fine, so long as I don't over cook the rhubarb, but the moment I do, I end up on a watch list.

  • @robshirewood5060
    @robshirewood5060 Před měsícem +119

    Hexi saved my life in a blizzard with a broken ankle on the Brecons without it i would not have hot brews to keep me going, oddly enough my father suffered the same injury nearby when he was in the TA. I still use the old hexi stove he had but with different fuel and i also use the BCB with Firedragon.
    I find putting a little cooking foil into the bottom where you put the fuel gel stops me having to clean up the hard black mess it leaves behind, and it can easily be put into a trash bag to take home.
    I painted the bottom of my mess tins with heat proof paint because the black gets hotter quicker and boils faster, i also have custom lids that i got on ebay, same with my BCB mugs and stand.
    Threatening people with prison over something so petty, when a simple explanation would advise them to trash them safely is overkill and unwarranted. There are far more important misdemeanours and crimes to be dealt with

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +9

      I agree. And some useful tips as well. Thanks for watching

    • @LeslieWells-qz2tb
      @LeslieWells-qz2tb Před měsícem +5

      Yes there is, hurty words online, real crimes don't matter any more.

    • @therespectedlex9794
      @therespectedlex9794 Před měsícem

      *Brecon Beacons
      **Bannau Brycheiniog
      Only old tarts and autistic doctors say the Brecons.

    • @moorshound3243
      @moorshound3243 Před měsícem +4

      I hate fire dragon fuel, it just doesn't work as well.

    • @pauls3075
      @pauls3075 Před měsícem

      @@moorshound3243 And yet we have seen it demonstrated very well on this video. Maybe its you thats the problem.

  • @michaeledmondson5100
    @michaeledmondson5100 Před měsícem +51

    Politicians make these idiot laws. I suggest that being a politician should be made a crime with a minimum sentence of ten years with no parole.

    • @jakewright4394
      @jakewright4394 Před měsícem +9

      and a hefty fine that would ecompass every penny they get from the public purse too!...

    • @georgeallen8781
      @georgeallen8781 Před měsícem +8

      well said bud, totally agree

    • @thomasmusso1147
      @thomasmusso1147 Před 26 dny

      It's people who first vote these idiot politicians into power.
      The people then also become idiots when they repeat the exercise, voting once again for the same idiots.

    • @Graeme_Lastname
      @Graeme_Lastname Před 18 dny +1

      Yes, yes yes! But only ten years?

    • @michaeledmondson5100
      @michaeledmondson5100 Před 17 dny +1

      I did state
      MINIMUM sentence of 10 years​@@Graeme_Lastname

  • @suffolkcamper4047
    @suffolkcamper4047 Před měsícem +157

    Soon leaving your house will land you in jail the way things are going lol.

    • @lw1zfog
      @lw1zfog Před měsícem +33

      they tried it in 2020 & will likely give it another go, if allowed.

    • @suffolkcamper4047
      @suffolkcamper4047 Před měsícem +22

      @@lw1zfog They're just itching to try it again. I suspect next time it'll be climate bs that's the excuse.

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +3

      Thanks for watching

    • @regd.2263
      @regd.2263 Před měsícem +2

      You will have to ask permission George Orwell 1984, yeah OK he got the date wrong but was right in what he predicted.

    • @diarmaidok
      @diarmaidok Před měsícem

      See "Rosa Koire Behind the Green Mask" to see what Net Zero/UN Sustainable Development is all about-zero Private Property-Zero Privacy and the UN and Chatham House [aka Illuminati Worldwide HQ] have planned. They want all public airports in the UK apart from Heathrow closed by 2030 and that closed by 2050. Basically the people that control Blackrock, Vanguard and State Street want the few assets they don't yet control-our houses cars and private property. Watch UK Column News, Redacted or Russell Brands videos about "The Great Reset" it is the New World Order/Revelation 13 Global Government with cashless economy a system called technocracy based on Universal Basic Income and carbon credits.

  • @bigfish5118
    @bigfish5118 Před měsícem +47

    Single use plastics, forcing them in where they never were before. Priceless.

  • @azbushcraft283
    @azbushcraft283 Před měsícem +58

    I guess the police have solved all other crimes, stock up now and tell them bollocks

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks for watching

    • @stuc.6592
      @stuc.6592 Před 27 dny

      The police didn't make this law and I'd surprised if they ever enforced it on your average camper or hiker. If you're carrying two dozen packets in a carrier bag down the high street then you'll probably have questions to answer. It's just closing a loophole that could be used by a bomb maker. The fuel will disappear fairly soon from the shops as it becomes common knowledge and we'll all be using the new stuff without any fuss.

    • @orderofmagnitude-TPATP
      @orderofmagnitude-TPATP Před 25 dny

      Police are petty and you are far too ignorant to believe this
      ​@@stuc.6592

  • @Proper-Kernow
    @Proper-Kernow Před měsícem +31

    The police dont know current laws let alone new ones relating to camping.

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks for watching

    • @user-TonyUK
      @user-TonyUK Před měsícem +3

      I never saw the Police about when I was Hiking the Pennine Way or the Coast to Coast, both of which I have done in both directions.

  • @fishbiscuit2000
    @fishbiscuit2000 Před měsícem +97

    Well it doesn't seem to have been publicised widely. You can find them still for sale on plenty of UK sites .

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +6

      Yes I have seen them. There is more detailed information at gov.uk website

    • @KAISERDJG
      @KAISERDJG Před měsícem +10

      yea its legal to sell them... like knives, but you cant carry a knife about and for some stupid reason you cant carry these fuel tablets.

    • @petersimpson633
      @petersimpson633 Před měsícem +7

      Checked the link, it's true- identified as 'a newly regulated pre curser' for making explosives

    • @user-bi8ko7kc6h
      @user-bi8ko7kc6h Před měsícem +3

      @@KAISERDJGbut it’s legal to carry a knife IF you have a reasonable reason e.g camping. Are the fuel tablets illegal to carry or own?

    • @JG-fv9bv
      @JG-fv9bv Před měsícem

      So in order for anyone to legally be anle to use a Hex block they'd need to get an EPP License ...utter madness ......makes you wonder if this is about slowly drop drip removing people's ability to be self sufficient and also so the Government can stock up on such items for when they declare war against Russia and send hundreds of thousands of the country's youth off to the meat grinder in Ukraine in the planned never ending war .

  • @tekknorat
    @tekknorat Před měsícem +31

    In a dystopian world is there anything that won't land you in jail?

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +2

      Thanks for watching

    • @lpj55
      @lpj55 Před měsícem +3

      Even asking that question could be enough to get your collar felt!

    • @gfuentes8449
      @gfuentes8449 Před 29 dny

      lots of things.
      Firstly if you're a woman you have immunity from prosecution. If you're a migrant and have the luck to get a white female judge, you will rarely go to prison.

  • @davidbradley6040
    @davidbradley6040 Před měsícem +130

    this along with knives and forks can get you arrested in UK. we have no legal rights ,just things that haven't been banned yet.

    • @charge4780
      @charge4780 Před měsícem

      Legal is nothing against COMMON LAW.
      STANDING IN OUR SOVEREIGNTY

    • @jimtaylor294
      @jimtaylor294 Před měsícem +3

      What's even more absurd is you need ID to buy knives or other bladed implement if under 25... yet you can buy a lump Hammer or other potential bludgeoning weapons with no checks whatsoever 😂 .
      It's almost like banning people from using certain tools in everyday encourages more misuse of said tools, not less. If it didn't then yobbos should all be walking around with hammers and other improv' weapons.

    • @Celtic-blood
      @Celtic-blood Před měsícem +2

      Welcome to the land of NO!!!!!!

    • @athewake
      @athewake Před měsícem +2

      We are all just surfs in a continuing feudal society controlled by the landed gentry.......

    • @andrewlancefield3730
      @andrewlancefield3730 Před 27 dny

      No you can't....

  • @richardmason4941
    @richardmason4941 Před měsícem +39

    A lot of Military people are going to be in trouble then!! this stove is part of their 24 hour ration pack when they are on exercise!!

    • @trinitytennant838
      @trinitytennant838 Před měsícem +6

      Correct I have used these many times in field exercises around the world….. what a load of BS

    • @oddjob7821
      @oddjob7821 Před měsícem +7

      You will find the law is applied only when it suits those in power.

    • @dr_chicken5911
      @dr_chicken5911 Před 28 dny +2

      Makes Perfect Sense, Should only be used for their intended purpose and not leisurely by divvies!

    • @stuc.6592
      @stuc.6592 Před 27 dny +4

      The military already use a huge number of things that a civilian can't, there's clearly an exemption for military use.

    • @wiggy5209
      @wiggy5209 Před 25 dny

      Heaven forbid that military folks under much closer scrutiny and more training with less rights ever get an advantages over civvilian school children..... It would be okay to use until our surplus has been used up ..because thanks to the budget ....we dont really have funds to waste them ....
      What we have is filed/logged more .,held under greater scrutiny and where we could do stuff with it ....would be far more limiting that that available to civvis

  • @betweentwomillennium5057
    @betweentwomillennium5057 Před měsícem +58

    The reason that they don’t want people to have hexamethylene tablets is because you can make hexamethylene tetra amine. You mix the hexamine tablets with hydrogen peroxide and add citric acid and it makes a primary explosive for blasting caps. You also can make cyclonite for C-4 explosives. Hexamine can be made by mixing formaldehyde and ammonia together to get the hexamine condensation product. This is the same BS as why they said that methyl ethyl ketone was carcinogenic. Because people could mix it with hydrogen peroxide and at a few drops of sulfuric acid and make a primary explosive. If the government realized that C-4 could be made from apples, and it can be, fucking apples would be illegal or found to be carcinogenic.

    • @bannor_murphy369
      @bannor_murphy369 Před 28 dny +3

      Thanks nice to know why 👍

    • @JackFrost008
      @JackFrost008 Před 28 dny

      can't eat apple seeds but nobody does anyway

    • @dennis8196
      @dennis8196 Před 25 dny +1

      Well that's the dumbest statement I have read this morning. ​@@JackFrost008the seed are the best part, full of fibre, more fibre than the skin.

    • @meshapious1597
      @meshapious1597 Před 24 dny

      @@dennis8196 Apple seeds contain b17 which kills cancer !!! (Go-figure why they banned it)...

    • @normanhall324
      @normanhall324 Před 24 dny +3

      You have to consume an awful lot of apple seeds to do harm?

  • @jwsuicides8095
    @jwsuicides8095 Před měsícem +109

    Prisoners talking:
    I was found with indecent images of children on my computer and got 4 months.
    I sang a Christmas carol in a public place and got 12 months.
    I had a hexi stove....got 2 years.

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +5

      Thanks for watching

    • @puddleduck4924
      @puddleduck4924 Před měsícem +4

      What!!!? Yall cant sing Christmas carols in public????? Also, why was hexamine outlawed?

    • @lowkey1969
      @lowkey1969 Před měsícem +5

      @@puddleduck4924 Can be a precursor to an explosive.
      Just as many household chemicals are...:)

    • @MrPDoff
      @MrPDoff Před měsícem +3

      ​@@lowkey1969just dont get caught buying fertiliser and collecting it in a diesel car....

    • @lowkey1969
      @lowkey1969 Před měsícem

      @@MrPDoff And Not For Official use...

  • @TheBorderRyker
    @TheBorderRyker Před měsícem +37

    TWO YEARS for having a few hexi blocks??? That’s insane!

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +5

      Thanks for watching

    • @LeslieWells-qz2tb
      @LeslieWells-qz2tb Před měsícem

      Yes it is, but you can steal and rob people and get less time in prison, that's our government for you.

    • @thecardboardsword
      @thecardboardsword Před 29 dny +1

      Wouldn't happen in the real world. You can still buy hexi blocks everywhere. Dunno what they're on about

  • @jackdimond7810
    @jackdimond7810 Před měsícem +8

    Heating rations on hex stove with your SA80 (I did my 3 star shoot so I had an LSW), is just so nostalgic!
    The good old days of cadets!

  • @paulworgan6599
    @paulworgan6599 Před měsícem +26

    I guess I’ll have to burn mine
    😂
    😂
    😂😂😂

  • @monty_sultana
    @monty_sultana Před měsícem +12

    The blocks themselves can be used to make explosives that is why the Uk government has banned them since October the metal stove itself can still be used

    • @paulleary8594
      @paulleary8594 Před 26 dny

      Haha what bullshit ,lookat what they make rockets out of , are they gonna ban sugar?

    • @wiggy5209
      @wiggy5209 Před 25 dny +2

      The blocks could've been used for that ...all of the time they were around ... I can only imagine that they raided a terrorist group with stuff like this as their primary explosive and so that's why it's being changed?

    • @monty_sultana
      @monty_sultana Před 25 dny

      @@wiggy5209 too many bloody immigrants n only getting worse in the UK we can’t enjoy camping without some idiot moaning

  • @andrewhughes8687
    @andrewhughes8687 Před měsícem +13

    I think the law prevents businesses from buying or selling without a license.
    As I read it, not a lawyer, it isn’t illegal to have them. Just buy or sell them.

    • @TheMcspreader
      @TheMcspreader Před 12 dny

      Just as well you aren't a lawyer then because you have that almost completely wrong.

  • @125ZJK
    @125ZJK Před měsícem +16

    You took me right back to the mid 80's with this. Hexi Blocks and 24 hour rat packs...

    • @steadynumber1
      @steadynumber1 Před měsícem

      I first came across the hex stove when my brother produced one on a cycling holiday we took in the Peak District in the 1960s. Nice & easy stove to use.

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem

      Thanks for watching

    • @stephransley4371
      @stephransley4371 Před měsícem

      Is hexamine the same stuff as firelighters?

  • @scotty5717
    @scotty5717 Před měsícem +18

    They dont come wrapped in an England or union flag,so the police wont bother you..i certainly wont stop using them from my local army&navy store

  • @brendanstoran7555
    @brendanstoran7555 Před měsícem +14

    The prisons are full, are they going to release a serious criminal to lock up someone for using a stove?😳😂😂😂

    • @laurapirrit6722
      @laurapirrit6722 Před měsícem

      They're obviously not going to release anyone. They're just going to build a giant wall around the entire country and turn it into a giant open air prison managed by Pascal Sauvage.

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +2

      Thanks for watching

  • @joejugashvili3616
    @joejugashvili3616 Před měsícem +5

    Reminds me of the time I asked for TWO boxes of Paracetamol at a pharmacy before going motorhoming on the continent. Being prepared gets you a stern look from a pharmacist. Likewise when I was doing some fiberglass work. Only acetone I could get was a tiny bottle of nail polish remover. Oh, well. Single use brushes. Back in the day, when I was doing a LOT of fiberglassing, I had a 25 litre drum of the stuff.

    • @gypsygem9395
      @gypsygem9395 Před měsícem +1

      You can probably still get that drum online, much like the Hydrogen peroxide that's also disappeared from pharmacy shelves. Mind boggles

  • @Taffwildmanofthewoods
    @Taffwildmanofthewoods Před měsícem +16

    I can remember in my army days substituting hexamine blocks for Kendal mint cake. The new recruits struggled to light it and the rest of us rolled around laughing.
    I suspect one would need a lot of it to make an explosive powerful enough to cause harm. Additionally, why is it only in 2023 someone thought of banning it?
    Cheers 👊

    • @Rosco0754
      @Rosco0754 Před měsícem +4

      I saw hexiblocks been dipped in chocolate and given to Bosnian kids in 95. Looking back now it was a sh*t move.

    • @trevormillar1576
      @trevormillar1576 Před měsícem

      What happened when they ate the hexi blocks?

    • @macstarr6207
      @macstarr6207 Před měsícem +2

      That's a gem 😊

    • @johnnycooper7019
      @johnnycooper7019 Před 28 dny +2

      Wicked bugger! I did the same bloody good drills (LMFAO) Best Wishes Johnny

    • @Taffwildmanofthewoods
      @Taffwildmanofthewoods Před 28 dny +1

      @@johnnycooper7019 The army has gone shit now, no pranks allowed for fear of bullying.

  • @responderman
    @responderman Před 24 dny +6

    Whatever the reason they have for making it illegal who on earth is going to police it because you can't get a policeman out to your house after a burglary let alone you cooking on a stove in the middle of nowhere.

  • @paulkinnear705
    @paulkinnear705 Před měsícem +8

    After 8yrs in the service, I can’t believe this!! I now live down under and can pop to Bunnings, or the local shop and buy Hexi firelighters by the box!! Nuts!!! 🤦🏻‍♂️

    • @R0d_1984
      @R0d_1984 Před 28 dny

      Glad you're with us mate, though it's getting worse here every day, i can't believe us Aussie are putting up with this sh!t, urbanization seems to create weakness.

  • @ellenclayton5955
    @ellenclayton5955 Před měsícem +8

    Imagine being in prison between murderers and rap!sts for this.....

  • @Drew-Abbott
    @Drew-Abbott Před měsícem +14

    I've never heard of this law change. I don't bother with gels, making my own is cheaper and they last longer. Wood shavings and wax

  • @markbooth1117
    @markbooth1117 Před měsícem +8

    Sod that. I have been using hexi since the 1980's when I was a squaddie, now a civvie I still use them when out and about on a wander in the hills. If they want to nick me, I will be in a valley far, far away from any roads, etc. burning the evidence (for a nice brew) and they can come and find me (if they can, out of their nice warm patrol car). At least you can also burn the cardboard wrapping on a box of hexi blocks,so no waste. You can't burn that plastic crap on the Fire Dragon Tablets, so much for no waste and saving the envi.ronment.

  • @damianjones7554
    @damianjones7554 Před měsícem +19

    So explain, as this is the first I've heard of this law. Why is owning a standard army issue hexi block stove suddenly illegal? Surely the aluminium stove itself is harmless? Also the actual hexi block itself is just a simple fire lighter exactly the same as what they sell for the quick start of wood stove burners which many country houses still use? How is the law being broken? How are these materials suddenly after decades of safe use all of a sudden a big problem to the law?

    • @redpillnibbler4423
      @redpillnibbler4423 Před měsícem

      Obviously it’s the hexi fuel.Whole thing is beyond ridiculous.

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem

      Thanks for watching

    • @glenndouglas8822
      @glenndouglas8822 Před měsícem

      It's not a simple firelighter, it's compounds are used for bombs as plastic explosive is slightly hard to get now 😂🤣 no seriously, I know some geek's who own massive train sets and they got a simple license for £40 and now still use it but mate you ain't gonna get nicked for using it camping ya numbnut, it's if you have 7kgs in ya garage alongside other material.

    • @fredblogs
      @fredblogs Před měsícem

      I used to work on a explosive site that also made Hexamin ( don’t know if I have spelt it right) I think you will find that Hexamin gives off a harmful odour.

    • @tinderboxcreations
      @tinderboxcreations Před měsícem +3

      Domestic firelighters are kerosene resin. Hexamine is non-solvent based and can be used as an explosive precursor and is found in some military explosive and propellant applications. That is why.

  • @taffman1
    @taffman1 Před měsícem +6

    I used to wipe solid hand soap over the base of my mess tin before cooking, came off very easily.

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +1

      good tip,

    • @Corky341
      @Corky341 Před 14 dny

      @@georgeborrow4001 a wet, still warm tea bag does the job too. ;-)

  • @Nick-zp3ub
    @Nick-zp3ub Před měsícem +17

    A purpose-built stove can still cause fires if used irresponsibly, but personally I'm more worried about single-use bbqs being left at beaches and woodland. Horrible things need to be banned

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +2

      Thanks for watching

    • @stco2426
      @stco2426 Před měsícem

      Agree

    • @scottsound4711
      @scottsound4711 Před měsícem +1

      Did you know - A light or box of matches can still cause fires if used irresponsibly.
      You said - But personally I'm more worried about single-use bbqs being left at beaches and woodland.
      Yet you have never been to the beach litter picking/woodlands or wrote to an Mp or councillor about these worries
      Why ? Shall we ban the colour Red too ?

    • @Nick-zp3ub
      @Nick-zp3ub Před měsícem +1

      @@scottsound4711 I don't live near the beach or a natural park, smartass. But when I go to one I always put my litter in the bin. I never light fires or use bbqs there because I know the hot sand can burn the feet of a child or dog, and the embers could cause a forest fire

  • @carlarthur4442
    @carlarthur4442 Před měsícem +4

    The Army used them for years I've still got some I my shed , great little bit of kit .

  • @tjfm59
    @tjfm59 Před měsícem +7

    recently accured a uk army mess tin set. now i wanted a lid for each pot. went to my local grocery store. got at least 2 of the heavy foil pans. marked out the size of the mess tins on the heavy foil pans than cut them out after making sure they where at least 1/4 in - 6 mm larger on each side. put the cut foil on top an folded the edges over. store on top of each pan folding the handles over.

  • @MR.TB67
    @MR.TB67 Před měsícem +6

    The laws of this land have become absolutely ridiculous, I take no notice of the law anymore and go of common sense I will not be controlled

  • @VeritySnatch
    @VeritySnatch Před měsícem +5

    its a precursor chemical used in the manufacture of a couple of quite destructive materials

  • @Lee_303
    @Lee_303 Před měsícem +4

    It's not the stove, it's the fuel tablets that came with them. You can now buy alternative solid fuel tablets that are OK. Stoves are not illegal.

  • @ronaldfitzsimmons9902
    @ronaldfitzsimmons9902 Před 15 dny +2

    Ex Army, got to say the good old Hexi cooker ' got me through it all.

  • @hillbillymal9351
    @hillbillymal9351 Před měsícem +14

    You didnt say why having hexi blocks could land you in prison

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem

      Thanks for watching

    • @betweentwomillennium5057
      @betweentwomillennium5057 Před měsícem

      Because he amine can be mixed with hydrogen peroxide and citric acid to make hexamethylenetetramine for constructing blasting caps. This is why they took methyl-Ethyl ketone off the market. They said it was carcinogenic but it was because you could make MEK peroxide explosive. They just lied about the cancer. They don’t give a fuck if you get cancer. If they realized you could make C-4 out of apples, (and yes, you can) they would be illegal too.

    • @jonb3311
      @jonb3311 Před měsícem +1

      It can be used to make bombs.

  • @MikeGraves-pd2tg
    @MikeGraves-pd2tg Před měsícem +9

    A used Tea Bag will clean your mess tins better than any cleaning pad.

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +5

      Thanks for the (PG) tips., 😁

    • @snowflakemelter1172
      @snowflakemelter1172 Před měsícem +3

      There is literally free pan scrubs all around you, it's called grass.

    • @peetsnort
      @peetsnort Před měsícem +2

      We just rubbed the bottom on sand.bish bash bosh

  • @j.b.708
    @j.b.708 Před 10 dny +2

    In a couple years you'll be arrested for complaining about the law that says you can be arrested for having those tablets.

  • @SprocketGames
    @SprocketGames Před měsícem +16

    A lot of people use those fuel tablets for miniature steam engine models. I wonder if they are allowed to use fuel tablets for miniature steam engines. Thanks for the video!

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks for watching

    • @SteamTrainsNStuff
      @SteamTrainsNStuff Před měsícem +1

      We can't, Mamod which is a live steam toy manufacturer wasnt even told of the ban the only found out when a shipment of steam toys got going out the country got flagged due to the included solid fuel.
      Hex tablets have been replaced by a fuel gel but I'm not impressed with it at all for my steam engines.

  • @christiantamminen8998
    @christiantamminen8998 Před měsícem +18

    Ignorance is not a defence in law I believe. But if they don't ban the sales, how can they then say it's illegal? Crazy. Thanks for the heads up. I have used this stove myself. Very practical.

    • @mrdelaney4440
      @mrdelaney4440 Před měsícem +3

      If you dont know then you dont know do you, thats not ignorance whatever they try to say.

    • @letmeoffthisplanet6208
      @letmeoffthisplanet6208 Před měsícem +5

      Show how under Common law which is our law they're illegal..
      Stop allowing yourself to be frauded by illegal tactics under illegal acts and legislations.

    • @snowflakemelter1172
      @snowflakemelter1172 Před měsícem

      ​@@mrdelaney4440it literally is.

    • @snowflakemelter1172
      @snowflakemelter1172 Před měsícem

      ​@@letmeoffthisplanet6208back under your rock sovereign citizen clown.

    • @callumclark3358
      @callumclark3358 Před měsícem +1

      Er ... if you don't know something then you are ignorant of that fact. That's the definition of ignorant, least it was when I went to school.

  • @noseygits4354
    @noseygits4354 Před měsícem +6

    So it's not the stove but the hexamine that's now illegal unless you have a license

  • @NewHampshireJack
    @NewHampshireJack Před měsícem +2

    I believe I will be spending the rest of my afternoon reading the comments. We love our "folding pocket stoves." When our troops were little, they were each issued a pocket stove and for practice sessions we used gel alcohol fuel that was purchased in bulk from restaurant and catering supply shops. The gel fuel is intended for use in chaffing dishes and is very reasonable in price. We pack the bulk fuel into cleaned and recycled plastic dish detergent bottles. Each stove has a selection of aluminum bottle caps and small tins to contain the fuel and is chosen to hold the needed amount. The system is easy for field use. We do have DIY liquid alcohol burners for the adults and our maturing older troopers. We like the fact the gel fuel burns clean and does not spread in the event of a tipover the way liquid fuel does. Much safer for practice with the young ones. We would only consider genuine hexamine for serious use in an emergency situation. Hexamine is still the king of fuels for these little stoves. It is prohibitively expensive in our area due to import and VAT taxes, it is not for daily use. My brother-in-law snagged two large bags (200 pieces each) of alcohol cubes from Japan at a surplus auction but we quickly learned they deteriorate rapidly and are no good as an emergency storage fuel even if refrigerated.
    Now, may I say that the Brits I have known were a rugged, no nonsense group. One was a WW2 paratrooper and had spent time as a POW. He was small in stature but I never saw any of the local punks mess with him where we worked together. He had the "do not F&%K with me look in his eyes." It is true that you get what you vote for. I hope folks in the UK will rise up and not allow their government to treat them as servants & slaves. Take charge and tell those you elect what you expect of them. OK, enough rambling.
    Watching you from our "secret retirement location" in Bulacan province, on Luzon island, in the Republic of the Philippine Islands. Now, it is time to whack the like button and subscribe.

    • @byteme9718
      @byteme9718 Před 25 dny

      The entire reason we face these stupid laws is because of the problems US foreign policy has caused around the world including the mass poverty in the Philippines.

  • @anthonyferris8912
    @anthonyferris8912 Před měsícem +10

    You've picked a nice day for it...😂

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +2

      Just a normal bank holiday weekend 😃
      Thanks for watching.

  • @danielreed5199
    @danielreed5199 Před měsícem +25

    Using a Hexi burner requires a ration-al mindset.

  • @CarlosAlberto-ii1li
    @CarlosAlberto-ii1li Před 15 dny +1

    I used these back in the mid 60's, worked well, bought them in Army and Navy shops.

  • @inregionecaecorum
    @inregionecaecorum Před měsícem +2

    I did a quick google the other day and there are still camping outlets selling Esbit tabs. I guess eventually customs will stop them being imported and the supply will dry up, but I doubt if there are going to be any prosecutions. I doubt if the Government even know or care about this unintended consequence of the law.

  • @lindsayheyes925
    @lindsayheyes925 Před měsícem +3

    Barry has come a long way from inventing a ski suit that could double as a lightning conductor. Long may he prosper.

  • @BaseDeltaZero1972
    @BaseDeltaZero1972 Před měsícem +4

    This brings back memories. ACF in the 80's...bought all my stuff from "Callan" and "Soldier of Fortune" in Liverpool. Considered "The SAS Survival Handbook" to be my Bible. :D
    I got a stack of gear from my mates brother who'd finished up in the TA as well...he gave me a G-10 kip bag and stacks of other kit. Happy times!

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem

      Thanks for watching

    • @Howard-bj1jq
      @Howard-bj1jq Před měsícem +1

      @@georgeborrow4001 Can't you come up with a different comment once in a while?

  • @Jb-tl1yi
    @Jb-tl1yi Před 21 dnem +2

    This also affects those that have Mamod model steam engines, they used the exact same fuel

  • @Simon_W74
    @Simon_W74 Před měsícem +1

    I have a love hate relationship with Hexi stoves, They enable me to do All in Meals when I was on the Army and seemed to have enough to get you through your 24hr rat pack. Hate is I was changing a gas cannister my way as I didn't have a clue what I was doing. Just as the Hexie block was about to go out it caught the gas that had leaked out of the cannister and flames shoot up my legs (bare at the time) taking out my tents door, I had longish hair too. Had as it singed it quite badly, so I ended up with short hair and much to my Dads relief as he had been getting on at me to get it cut for ages. I wouldn't have bothered trying to change the cannister if It wasn't for a friend having an Asthma Attack, and hadn't brought their inhaler. We were going to go and get it for her, but needed some thing to light up our camp as we where camping in a wood not too far from home.
    I find it daft that they would target something that is very good at what it is meant for and it doesn't burn for that long either. Yet more Over reach in areas that really don't need it.

  • @bashkillszombies
    @bashkillszombies Před měsícem +3

    Individual plastic wrapped fuel cells? That's better for the environment than cutting a chunk of hex off? Wild. Your police don't deal with real crimes anymore, but you know they'll buy some overpriced equipment for their helicopters to sniff out hex tabs or something and swarm your position if you dare carry one.

  • @mickcorbett6724
    @mickcorbett6724 Před měsícem +4

    Seems the clickbait title triggered everyone, well done.

  • @Lone_Painter
    @Lone_Painter Před měsícem +2

    Soon owning a toothbrush will be a felony.

  • @rogerhudson9732
    @rogerhudson9732 Před měsícem +1

    This is straight out of the 100ml bottle on aircraft mindset. Just because hexamine can be turned into hexogen(RDX) explosive. Even the little white German fuel tabs are banned as well.

  • @TheBuckspygmy
    @TheBuckspygmy Před měsícem +4

    Why are hexamine blocks still for sale then? Why no publicity? I have 2 kilos of hexamine. (Yes I do know it is a precursor for explosives, but so is aspirin, and many other things not banned.)

  • @philotown
    @philotown Před měsícem +3

    Mess tins are easy to clean with sand or soil. Yep old squaddie.

  • @mattsnowden973
    @mattsnowden973 Před měsícem +2

    So it’s the hexi blocks that are outlawed not the stoves, the stoves can still be used but with fire jells or similar stuff. So the blocks have been outlawed because that can be used to make bombs

    • @byteme9718
      @byteme9718 Před 25 dny

      There are countless ways to make explosives and banning hexamine tablets will not make a difference.

  • @Steve-cw2hc
    @Steve-cw2hc Před měsícem +2

    Anyone want to buy 20 packs of military issue tabs. Lol .

  • @OldNavajoTricks
    @OldNavajoTricks Před měsícem +16

    If only there was some way of disposing of the fuel..
    ☕️☕️☕️😂

  • @johntims2416
    @johntims2416 Před měsícem +18

    As if the police have time to enforce this May be a water bailiff could say something but i would not worry about using them .

  • @markkieran1004
    @markkieran1004 Před měsícem +2

    Goverment paranoia - acetone could be used in the same way to produce peroxide explosives. Oops, have I inadvertently made the possession of nail varnish remover a criminal offence.

  • @rogerd6166
    @rogerd6166 Před měsícem +2

    I always used a soggy used up tea bag to clean the bottom off my mess tins.

  • @johnweightman2002
    @johnweightman2002 Před měsícem +19

    The title is misleading. Owning the stove won’t land you in prison. You just can’t buy the tablets.

  • @m0ther0ne
    @m0ther0ne Před měsícem +3

    You forgot to tell us why they have been outlawed.

    • @inaminute9643
      @inaminute9643 Před měsícem

      That's what I want to know

    • @andyjohnson6270
      @andyjohnson6270 Před měsícem

      ‘cuz Hexamine can be used in the manufacture of improvised explosives.

  • @markdaley71
    @markdaley71 Před 26 dny

    Are these the same blocks I used in the field when on training in the reserves?

  • @franktuckwell196
    @franktuckwell196 Před měsícem +2

    We used them in the Scouts and Venture Scouts, in the 1960s/70s. We also carried a methylated spirits stove with the meths in a glass screw top bottle. Cannot you just use fire lighters instead, or are they the same thing? Long, long time since i used one now.

  • @mucy2807
    @mucy2807 Před měsícem +3

    Same - I have quite a few, which I can assure the police, I WILL be using.

  • @daveys
    @daveys Před měsícem +15

    These rules don’t stop you from buying or or a shop from selling hexi tablets. The seller just needs to keep a record of who bought the items and the purpose, if a certain threshold is reached. So if you go into the shop and buy some hexi fuel for your stove and they ask you for ID and what it’s for, produce that and tell them why you want it. It’s a response to previous instances where people have made improvised explosives and not people doing bushcraft, you’re just caught up in it.

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem

      Thanks for watching

    • @paulpapadelta7994
      @paulpapadelta7994 Před měsícem

      Collecting data like 1930's Germany( E.g. do you think your neighbour is a jew)
      They ,(The government) has an excuse to make everyone a criminal using Venders to turn people in for the ordinary use of something.
      It is like when they made shop keepers unpaid tax collectors (V.A.T)

  • @SlanderMan.
    @SlanderMan. Před 20 dny +1

    Doing literally anything in England is deemed a criminal act

  • @mrsiborg
    @mrsiborg Před měsícem +1

    I remember the good old hexi from the cadets too, good times. How would a standard firelighter block from a garage go for use in a hexi?

  • @emersonmsd
    @emersonmsd Před měsícem +3

    Only in the UK. You must have all gone nuts since I left. Yes the gel is better but making them illegal. 🤦‍♀

  • @pnyarrow
    @pnyarrow Před měsícem +3

    Hi. This is a surprise but the hexi did give off cyanide fumes. The Fire Dragon is easier to light however one can't clean the bottom of the mess tin easily with a tea bag like one could with hexi. Thanks for sharing. Stay safe out there

    • @lindsayheyes925
      @lindsayheyes925 Před měsícem +1

      Use sand or grit as a scourer.

    • @pnyarrow
      @pnyarrow Před měsícem

      @@lindsayheyes925 Sand, grass or mares tail as a scourer but not gir as it scratches too much. Personally I use half a "Scotchbride" pad.

    • @lindsayheyes925
      @lindsayheyes925 Před měsícem +1

      @@pnyarrow Fine grit - I wasn't bothered by scratches. Half a Scotchbrite lived in my RCK - the same piece for over 10 years.

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks for watching

  • @NCTurbulence
    @NCTurbulence Před měsícem +1

    We use to use them all the time in the Army Cadets in the 80's, I'm sure they still do.

  • @oesypum
    @oesypum Před měsícem +2

    We used to clean the mess tins with used tea bags.

  • @richie6496
    @richie6496 Před měsícem +3

    Don't know if I believe that I have a bag full of them

  • @swanseamale47
    @swanseamale47 Před měsícem +3

    The hexi stoves work fine with fire dragon.
    Been using mine like that for ages.

  • @stephengarrett8076
    @stephengarrett8076 Před měsícem +2

    Outrageous 😡 if that's the case will they ban all vehicles as certain people use these for unlawful use ???

  • @davidculmer1520
    @davidculmer1520 Před měsícem +2

    Surely its not owning the stove thats illegal. Its the blocks. There are any number of other fiels that can be used eith these stoves!

  • @peetsnort
    @peetsnort Před měsícem +4

    So what they're saying is hexamine can be used for explosives..?

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem

      Thanks for watching

    • @oddball7483
      @oddball7483 Před měsícem +1

      My deceased dad tried to clean an old heavily stained toilet bowl. Tried all sorts of household cleaners like bleach and scourers etc Nothing seemed to work in exasperation he stopped trying and gave up slamming the door as he left the throne room. There followed a large explosion and on opening the door to investigate found the entire bowl shattered. Problem solved.😄
      Shame a politician wasn't sitting on it at the time.😂

    • @oml81mm
      @oml81mm Před 29 dny

      Bleach and harpic mixed together is quite nasty...
      ps If you do not know what I mean look it up, but DO NOT experiment.

  • @BlackthornBushcraft
    @BlackthornBushcraft Před měsícem +3

    So it's the fuel not the stove? You can make your own fuel blocks with wax, petroleum jelly and cottonwool.
    From memory hexi tabs stank anyway.

  • @cnorris517
    @cnorris517 Před měsícem +2

    Dumped all my hexi fuel years ago cos it's nasty. Use either gel in a foil cupcake tin ( in the old hexi stove) or my MSR petrol stove now
    Also a good cheaper alternative to buying alcohol fuels is to buy those little chaffing burners used to keep food hot, last time i bought them i got 24 for £5, each one lasts about 3 hours and they come with a screw lid so don't leak

  • @saltyc3194
    @saltyc3194 Před měsícem +1

    So now instead of hex blocks packed in waxed card that could also be burned as fuel we now are expected to use something that appears to come in non reusable plastic tubs. So much for reducing plastic waste. The new law was not widely publicised. How were people supposed to know about it?

  • @rooksfoot1184
    @rooksfoot1184 Před měsícem +10

    funny a comment i left about squaddies health concerns seems to be shadowbanned

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +1

      Thanks for watching.

    • @davymac3882
      @davymac3882 Před měsícem +1

      I follow lots of people on YT and quite often I have comments removed for no reason. Often the comments are completely inoffensive.

  • @paulbennett274
    @paulbennett274 Před měsícem +5

    The authorities aren't bothered about people's safety using Hexane blocks as a fuel but they are very worried about people misusing Hexane itself as it's a chemical precursor to making high explosive, hence the ban!

    • @macstarr6207
      @macstarr6207 Před měsícem +2

      They did the same with the weedkiller sodium chlorate cos the ira were using it to make propellant for mortars!

    • @jonb3311
      @jonb3311 Před měsícem +3

      Not a lot of thinking going on here with the complaints., by people who haven't been arsed to look up why hexane has been banned.

    • @gfuentes8449
      @gfuentes8449 Před 29 dny +1

      @@jonb3311 except hexane hasn't, hexamine has. Maybe you need to do some thinking.

    • @gfuentes8449
      @gfuentes8449 Před 29 dny

      hexane and hexamine are two different things. Hexane is a common solvent used to extract food-grade seed oils

    • @R0d_1984
      @R0d_1984 Před 28 dny

      @@jonb3311 What you're missing is how long has it been around.

  • @jksandman000
    @jksandman000 Před měsícem

    Good thing those Tommies fought so hard to not have the French speak German. This was worth dying for.

  • @sobeit1927
    @sobeit1927 Před 4 dny

    An example of a lovely British summer and a lovely British government .

  • @andrewfox7861
    @andrewfox7861 Před měsícem +4

    Standard issue in military rashion packs, what's the problem

  • @user-cd4mo7rw5b
    @user-cd4mo7rw5b Před měsícem +3

    Used to be issued with 24 HR arctic ration boxes, hexamine stinks.

  • @AndriyValdensius-wi8gw
    @AndriyValdensius-wi8gw Před měsícem

    I used to have one. I bought it in the USA in 1979. It was a nifty bit of kit. It took up no space in a rucksack.

  • @tjfm59
    @tjfm59 Před měsícem +2

    on to the leagal issue of heaximine. if you have the correct recipe, RDX can be removed from heaximine. this is a primary exposlive. where as the dragon is only using a jellied alcohol. (naplam).

  • @richardking1067
    @richardking1067 Před měsícem +11

    i believe the hexamine can be used to make high explosive quite easily.

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem +2

      Thanks for watching

    • @evildiesel7850
      @evildiesel7850 Před měsícem +3

      hexamine + nitric acid + a bit of chemistry = C4 plastic explosive. I studied chemistry (only to A level) in the 80's and had a wild time!

    • @user-zs5nr8dd1z
      @user-zs5nr8dd1z Před měsícem +10

      so can diesel, sugar and any amount of other materials.

    • @darkshaman7087
      @darkshaman7087 Před měsícem +2

      So can a bit of pipping gunpowder a bulb filament and a battery

    • @mattbartlett5875
      @mattbartlett5875 Před měsícem

      Hxd

  • @Mrgingerdread1
    @Mrgingerdread1 Před měsícem +8

    Ridiculous, just use fire lighters.

    • @TheIronBrow
      @TheIronBrow Před měsícem +2

      Where is he going to get dry firewood in the rain? Way too much hassle just for a cuppa to dry anything out.
      If u mean use the firelighters on their own, thats ridiculous, they burn out way too fast. Couldnt boil a cup of water.

    • @georgeborrow4001
      @georgeborrow4001  Před měsícem

      Thanks for watching.

    • @joep5080
      @joep5080 Před měsícem

      just make "napalm" Polystyrene n petrol