personally, for lower tunings I'm a seven string guy. I think more companies should make good baritone guitars, there's definitely a rise in popularity for them.
Hello from snowy New England..First time first one in...Im loving the channel...Ive never seen someone sooo happy when they play...Who needs the stink face when ur beaming a smile the whole set...? Im a drummer but watch all different types of music content because as a musician you never stop learning...Thx for all the positity and thx for STAYING METAL RAY!!!.Peace from the Northeast...
I was a 7 string player for 5 years 2012-17, once I grasped the purpose of baritones in 2017 I accepted I'm not disciplined enough to be a fast shredder & got my Jazzmaster baritone early 2018, converted my squier tele to a baritone 3 months ago & enjoy both of them very much. By this point I wanna experiment w/ a 7 string again to see how I can be creative w/ it now vs then
You by far look like the happiest person in the world when you're jamming. Pure motivation. Great video too, thank you. I've been curious about baritones for a while now and figured I'd finally do some research, and you answered every question I had.
depends on what kind of standard but generally yes. If you mean E standard then you could technically but you'd need extremely thin strings. Why would you need e standard on a baritone though? b standard is the usual baritone standard
I really wish more companies would make super affordable baritones, like Jackson JS series pricing. I'd love to get one and literally play the clean interlude part of Master Of Puppets an octave down. The only downside of baritones for me is my hand size: I don't have particularly small hands, but I don't have Mick Thomson level of stretch. Lol. :)
I never tune lower then D and I use a digitec drop tune pedal for my drop tunings works great and I can keep all my guitars tuned to standard except when I play some drop D stuff. I think the Baritone guitars are cool but I just do not have a real need for one. But I did learn a lot from this video about them more then I actually new so great video Ray.
You and the Bunn are easily the best baritone channels on CZcams, if you havent checked The Bunn out please do he's a wealth of technical baritone knowledge that goes in depth. Seems like a pretty righteous character. You got a ton of info all around whereas the Bunn goes more in depth on baritones then anyone else I've seen on the YT platform. Worth a watch
hey man. i appreciate the vid. i've played since 73 and only just now found my way to baritone-land. i got onto it after watching mark lettieri w/ Fearless Flyers and their recent Europe release on youtube. Soooo, i bought a Squire w/ soapbars to get started. i'm not a metal guy at all, but have had a good time doing what i do, but on a baritone. keep up the good work! cheers...
Love that baritone single cut by ESP, the EC-1000. Les Paul style with a proper scale length always was my dream as a teen, and boom, suddenly it was there
Your channel has made me buy a baritone( Well not made) lol. I've only played standard scale guitars. Watched many of your videos over the last 2 years and decided I wanted something different.
Send Thanks Scott Bunn for literally covering this topic on CZcams for 5 years prior to this and starting the Baritone Obsessed group that you joined in the last 12 months. I’ve been covering baritone for the last 2 years as well. It’s cool to see you guys with bigger audiences bringing awareness. It would be great if the others who have a history on this topic would be credited.
Thank you so much for this! This is the video that I wanted to watch and been waiting for quite a long... and Im just a random drummer from South America! Thanks again!
I just got a Fender Blacktop Baritone Tele, the Ghost Silver one. Super cool guitar, it's my first baritone though so Ray is my new best friend on CZcams lol.
Don't see Douglas guitars often these days. I actually bought a Douglas 6string 27" scale from Rondo a decade ago to make it my first project guitar to tinker with. It was B-stock, so I just jumped on the deal, I didn't know about baritone differences. I have finally gotten around to it, and I just got some Bill and Becky wilde pickups to get started. Thanks for sharing your insights on baritone guitar, I'm glad I didn't make a shit choice when deciding to use it for down-tuned rhythm stuff.
Thank you for finally telling us what gauge you like to use. I run my baritone with the EB 13-72's as well, I like the feeling and the resonance of them down in drop G. Stay Metal 🤘
@@xanderraymondcharles I've been looking at some but haven't dared to pull the trigger. This video probably pushes me over the edge 😁 I'll start with a cheaper one to see how it grows on me.
@@SteinG if ur just lookin to dip ur toes with 30" scale lengths, I just ordered a subzero rogue VI baritone . they go for like $350 and apart from some QC issues I heard good things
@@TheCatalystOS that is EXACTLY the one I've been looking at!! Especially that white one 😂 thanks for pushing me even closer to the edge of baritones 🤘
64 yrs young and interested in the baritone guitar,I love the crunch ...( I'm a drummer btw ). I play bass also, but next is baritone guitar 😏 ...still
Baritone guitars are great if you're used to the neck thickness of a regular 6 string guitar, extended range guitars can be a little cumbersome to play with the wider neck. Plus changing strings is cheaper and easier with 6 strings!
My 29.75 inch gretsch baritone is going to be done at the luthier tomorrow. Got some fishman will adler's put in. I can not WAIT to hear the difference from those cheaper mini humbuckers to the best I can get. Drop G is going to be very tasty
Awesome video bro , I appreciate it. I can't stop buying guitars and wanted to get a HB Amarok but they are pretty much copies of a c1 platinum and I have one. Then I find out they make a baritone Amarok and was gonna order it but was unsure whether I would like it. I just ordered it thanks to you 🎸🤘🍻
I have always played a 6 string along with bass. Although I tried an Ibanez 8 string out at a shop the neck width is my issue. It was thicker than my Fender P-bass.
Great explanation, man. I've been looking to get into playing doom metal, and when I upgrade guitars to something WITHOUT a Floyd Rose, I'm going to downtune it to C# Standard, on a skinny top heavy bottom set of strings. I see no point in going down lower than that on a regular scale lenght guitar, but I've been wanting more and more a baritone. I know they'll already sound HUGE under distortion on B standard,but you downtune even lower! I'm amazed.
my next guitar will be a baritone for sure! I was thinking a 7 string to do lower tunings, but I think I'm going to go the baritone route since I'm used to 6 strings and I won't have to really learn anything different but I will get a 7 string down the road.
So, to expand on what Ray said earlier with there not being a set start and endpoint for baritone scale lengths, there's honestly also not really a set definition, more just, guidelines. For me, baritones are both a scale length and a tuning. Anywhere from 26.5"-30" on a 6-string (minimum increases on a 7- or 8-string, but I'm focusing on 6s) and tuned anywhere from B standard/drop A to F standard/drop Eb. I cut it off there, bc once you get to E standard/drop D1 and lower, it's what's known as a bass vi (vi as in the roman numeral for 6, not as in the first syllable of, say, violet, for those unaware). Any 6-string in that scale range is a baritone guitar, yes, but they can also be used for normal tunings. For example, Austin, from Trogly's Guitar Show, tunes his baritones up to E standard, because he likes the increased string tension. Buckethead tunes his to Eb standard, because he doesn't have a baritone to tune low, he has a baritone because the dude's tall as hell. Similarly, normal guitars can be put in baritone tunings, though it's ill-advised beyond drop A. That said, I've seen people do drop G on Gibson scales. In fact, actually, I think Lee Malia of Bring Me The Horizon is one of those people. Don't quote me, my memory's trash. But, a baritone tuning doesn't make it a baritone guitar. Simply put, baritone guitars are just *optimized* for baritone tunings. They don't need to be used for those tunings exclusively, and they aren't the only ones that can be tuned that low. There's another youtube channel, The Bunn. Dude's all about baritones and tuning low, has been for years, and is an amazing source of info and entertainment. Anyways, that's my unintentional mini essay on baritones. All y'all take care, and stay metal \m/
Just picked up Squier Paranormal Series Baritone Cabronita Telecaster felt so good. Only have at it at a B right now but might try A sharp after watching this video
Love this video. I really have been debating on getting a baritone. Also I hope you get a chance to check out some of the Chapman baritones this year. They have 3 or 4 different ones on their website available.
The only baritone I've played is a Danelectro 29.75" Baritone and that thing was unplayable. It was so painful for me to reach the first fret. Felt like I had to stretch so far to even play the thing. Maybe a 27" baritone would be better for me. I do love me some drop A. But I find a 25.5" scale to be way easier to play but sounds a lot worse for super down tuned stuff. It could also be that my pickups aren't that good for low tunings.
Hey, to add on a limitations of baritone guitar surprisingly it is a bass! In range from drop G# to drop E it is pretty hard to get good sounding bass on octave lower and in unison bass would be too high to beef up mix. IMHO best tuning range would be up from standard to drop A for octave bass and then drop e and lower so you can get unison bass. Second thing I would say is that certain chords sound better and some sound worse on a baritone. I mean something like a Am chord would sound pretty dark one octave down so you would need adjust position which would be around 7 fret on 4th string and it would not sound more tense than on standard scale in basic position. For me personally, best of both worlds is seven string in drop d tuning with low E.
Thanks for this video! (Well, all of them haha) Just got my first baritone guitar (Squier Jazzmaster, prob your fault LOL) and wow, it feels like a new toy hehe, getting inspired and getting ready to create!
Hey Ray! I'm from the mouth of the Yukon River in Alaska. I've been watching your channel for a couple years now and that fender baritone you have is one of my dream guitars. Are there different baritone scales that you like for different tunings? I've never played one because I'm a Les Paul or any single cut type of guitar player. I really like 25½" scale guitars though but don't own one. What string gauge would you prefer for a Les Paul type guitar?
I'm a bassist that likes to play guitar as well, I've got a baritone cabronita (B-B tuning ) it's kind of a natural counterpart to my 5 string basses. I also have a Bass VI but I find the baritone more useful
I guess PRS has the 277 and Fender's got the Cabronita, but imagine having models like Subsonic Strats get their overdue rerelease. Hell seeing the big brands commit to new baritone models would be so sick, like a Fender Subsonic Tele/Jazz, PRS SC277 or McCarty 277, and possibly a reissue of those beefy Gibson LP baritones from the early 00s
I just sold my Squier Cabro Barry. Just didn't really vibe with it. Didn't help that the first baritone I ever played was my buddy's semi-hollow PRS 227. LMAO! I think the non-Bigsby Gretsch 29.75" Barry's going to be the next one for me.
Gday Ray cheers for the awesome content mate love from Australia I’m a big Van Halen fan, on the topic of baritone have you seen the epic ‘Spanked’ baritone double neck? Keep killing it with the content mate 🔥🤟🏻
Hi bud, I'm not a complete beginner but tried to play several times over many years but its only now I'm truly getting the hang of playing after all these years, so i have a schecter hellraiser c-1 six string and love it but i want the heavy brutal sound. (carcass /paradise lost sound) But my big question is do i go baritone or 7 string plus im 6`6" big guy so yeah I'm really torn on what road to go down??? thanks for the cool content peace out!
GREAT video. I'm torn between trying a 7-string or a baritone. I'm bored of the standard 6 string and want to gravitate towards slow thick, meaty, sludgy riffs. Why did you go with baritone instead of 7-string? THANKS!
Greetings from Vermont 🍁 I’ve missed playing a multi scale guitar and I am about to grab a baritone guitar by Gretsch. Can’t beat $500 for a decent guitar!
Hey Ray, is there any particular model you would recommend, in a somewhat intermediate price range? Liked the video, as always good job man, keep it up :)
Nice! Been in drop C for around 22yrs. Wanting to build a baritone to get more massive low-end to complement the C tuning. What would you tune the baritone to for that? Herndon.
Hello Ray, thank you, and may I ask what it is you are playing at about 5:45? is it on one of your albums?? Ive just rented a Gretsch JET baritone, its lots of fun! thanks again
I play in Drop B on a standard 6 string guitar with a floyd rose, anything lower than that is too low for me. I use GHS Boomers 10 thru 60 gauge. BTW, My guitar is a LTD Model F-200
Hi Ray :) I've been playing for 30 years, but I'm new to the baritone. I have an Ibanez RGD320 26.5" scale guitar(Drop A# tuning). I think the pickups are too weak. I've only one chance because of my budget. Actives, passives, EMG, Bare Knucle, Seymour Duncan, Fishman Fluence...? I'm so confused. I need your advice. Thank you for this beautiful channel by the way 😎
Top 5 Baritones under $1,000? I have been looking, and trying to find one that is a quality build for the price. PRS 277, is that a good one for an intermediate player on a budget?
Dumb question but I learned to play by ear and not real savvy on chords. That being said I built a custom baritone for myself and would really like someone to help me out on transposing your basic standard chords such as G, C, D, Em, Am, Bm, F. That way I have an idea when I’m creating music or playing along with standard tuned folks. By the way my baritone is tuned in basic B to B tuning. Any help much appreciated!🤘🏼🫶🏼
I have a subzero rougue vi guitar that also has a 30" scale, and the low wound string on the baritone slinky set from ernie ball was too short for the reverse headstock. I feel like this is important to point out when buying string for scraaaazy scale lenghts like this.
As someone new to playing would you recommend a baritone. I can only justify getting 1 guitar atm, but they definitely produce the sound and type of music I want to play. Should I play it safe and buy a more standard guitar, or go for "the deep end" and a baritone.
Hey Ray! Been following your channel for about a year now. Love your content. I’ve been gravitating towards a baritone myself, you might be to blame for that! What tuning capabilities would a 26.5” scale length have?
My 7 string has a 26.5 scale length. I can tune it down to drop A or D standard with 10s and it's fine. I never really go lower than that though, so I can't speak on that.
Hreat post, thank you for this info. My question is, I love tuning low, and I own a seven string. What are the benefits to going baritone guitars VS. like eight strings of modified seven?
I just got my Bass VI. I understand most people use em for low tunings, but the idea of having a lower octave rhythm guitar is extremely appealing to me. But I predominantly play in Dropped C#, any idea what string gauge would be good for a 30inch scale length? The Bass VI kinda uses all wound strings for a full octave lower than standard E. But I think Loathe and other bands use the Bass VI with baritone strings. Trying to find a baritone set that can get me to a comfortable Dropped C# without being full wounds like the typical Bass VI string set.
Hey Ray! You should try the "SubZero Rogue VI Baryton" (30'' scale lenght) from Gear4Music in U.K. They look so cool in Polar White with the Maple Board and Black Block Inlays !! ... and you're right,.... it's All For the Riffs !!!!! Greetings from France !!
I want to start playing more in the drop B and maybe lower like A, but all my guitars struggle to stay in tune that low. I don’t know what guitar would be best for it
Hi, cool channel and best wishes from Hamburg, German. One question: What tuning would you recommend for a baritone guitar, when the band plays in dropC?
Hello from West London. I’ve a MiM VI Pawn Shop which is baritone set. It’s backed up with a new-ish Squier Bari-Tele. But my question is AMPS!! What amp for heavy baritone guitar ?? I play heavy rock in a stoner doom Sabbath type vibe with a bit of metal and indie thrown in. Any suggestions welcome as I’m frankly baffled. Currently playing an Ampeg Rocket and a Peavey Bandit. This due to current budget rather than choice. That said it sounds ok.
you should check out THE Bunn channel would be a solid baritone collab, 26.5 is solid for SHREDDY baritone, 28.5 is as far I would go cuz 30 is a BASS VI short scale makes chording complex but do do drop F GREAT one of my buddy swears by it.
"You have the ability to tune super low". That's all I needed to hear 😀
A wild agufish appeared! Would love to see a Ray/Agufish collab in the future!
I concur.
lololol
personally, for lower tunings I'm a seven string guy. I think more companies should make good baritone guitars, there's definitely a rise in popularity for them.
I love 25.5 thats why i don’t tune much below B
Have to love those 7 string of course bro!! own a Washburn Evertune 7 string, but dont even know the scale for it lol which scale is yours bruh?
@@jomesias no idea
@@jomesias If you have a regular 7 string the scale should be 25.5, cause there’s baritone 7 string guitars and the scales are like 27 to 28.
Hello from snowy New England..First time first one in...Im loving the channel...Ive never seen someone sooo happy when they play...Who needs the stink face when ur beaming a smile the whole set...? Im a drummer but watch all different types of music content because as a musician you never stop learning...Thx for all the positity and thx for STAYING METAL RAY!!!.Peace from the Northeast...
Hey hey! We got snow down here in Philly as well! Thanks so much for the kind words! Stay warm up there!
You know who else is from New England?
Staind
Famous for using baritone guitars.
Listen to “open your eyes”
I was a 7 string player for 5 years 2012-17, once I grasped the purpose of baritones in 2017 I accepted I'm not disciplined enough to be a fast shredder & got my Jazzmaster baritone early 2018, converted my squier tele to a baritone 3 months ago & enjoy both of them very much. By this point I wanna experiment w/ a 7 string again to see how I can be creative w/ it now vs then
go ahead bro
I have an Agile baritone guitar with a 30" scale, borderline short scale bass. Total game changer. Super bright, crisp, piano-like tones.
You by far look like the happiest person in the world when you're jamming. Pure motivation. Great video too, thank you. I've been curious about baritones for a while now and figured I'd finally do some research, and you answered every question I had.
Can we tune a baritone guitar to standard tuning? That’s the only question I have. Thank you for the wonderful video
Capo on 5th fret 👍
depends on what kind of standard but generally yes. If you mean E standard then you could technically but you'd need extremely thin strings. Why would you need e standard on a baritone though? b standard is the usual baritone standard
I just ordered a 277 last week can’t wait for it to get here. I use to have a viper Ltd that got stolen way back when.
На третий день поисков, наконец-то (!), нашелся вменяемый чувак, способный внятно разъяснить про баритоны. Спасибо, друже!
I really wish more companies would make super affordable baritones, like Jackson JS series pricing. I'd love to get one and literally play the clean interlude part of Master Of Puppets an octave down. The only downside of baritones for me is my hand size: I don't have particularly small hands, but I don't have Mick Thomson level of stretch. Lol. :)
Man that riff at 5:45 is unlike anything Ive heard before, that's how to do a baritone!
I know right that shit was unreal 🤣
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I never tune lower then D and I use a digitec drop tune pedal for my drop tunings works great and I can keep all my guitars tuned to standard except when I play some drop D stuff. I think the Baritone guitars are cool but I just do not have a real need for one. But I did learn a lot from this video about them more then I actually new so great video Ray.
You and the Bunn are easily the best baritone channels on CZcams, if you havent checked The Bunn out please do he's a wealth of technical baritone knowledge that goes in depth. Seems like a pretty righteous character. You got a ton of info all around whereas the Bunn goes more in depth on baritones then anyone else I've seen on the YT platform. Worth a watch
Been following you for a while now and it’s crazy you put this video out cause I just bought my first baritone! Jericho Fusion 6 Evertune!
hey man. i appreciate the vid. i've played since 73 and only just now found my way to baritone-land. i got onto it after watching mark lettieri w/ Fearless Flyers and their recent Europe release on youtube. Soooo, i bought a Squire w/ soapbars to get started. i'm not a metal guy at all, but have had a good time doing what i do, but on a baritone. keep up the good work! cheers...
Love that baritone single cut by ESP, the EC-1000. Les Paul style with a proper scale length always was my dream as a teen, and boom, suddenly it was there
There was a local band here in the 90s called oil filter that used bass strings to tune sludge deep. They were rad.
Your channel has made me buy a baritone( Well not made) lol.
I've only played standard scale guitars. Watched many of your videos over the last 2 years and decided I wanted something different.
Send Thanks Scott Bunn for literally covering this topic on CZcams for 5 years prior to this and starting the Baritone Obsessed group that you joined in the last 12 months.
I’ve been covering baritone for the last 2 years as well.
It’s cool to see you guys with bigger audiences bringing awareness. It would be great if the others who have a history on this topic would be credited.
Thank you so much for this! This is the video that I wanted to watch and been waiting for quite a long... and Im just a random drummer from South America! Thanks again!
You exude such joy when you are playing! Awesome!
Gracias mister !!!
best explanation of a baritone guitar yet. Great video!
I just got a Fender Blacktop Baritone Tele, the Ghost Silver one. Super cool guitar, it's my first baritone though so Ray is my new best friend on CZcams lol.
Don't see Douglas guitars often these days. I actually bought a Douglas 6string 27" scale from Rondo a decade ago to make it my first project guitar to tinker with. It was B-stock, so I just jumped on the deal, I didn't know about baritone differences.
I have finally gotten around to it, and I just got some Bill and Becky wilde pickups to get started. Thanks for sharing your insights on baritone guitar, I'm glad I didn't make a shit choice when deciding to use it for down-tuned rhythm stuff.
Great content! I dig your approach to heavy music, chill 'tude and overall excellent content. Thanks!
Thank you for finally telling us what gauge you like to use. I run my baritone with the EB 13-72's as well, I like the feeling and the resonance of them down in drop G. Stay Metal 🤘
Don't have a baritone yet but this is fixing to get interesting. Pretty sure I'll be looking at baritones at the end of this vid 😁
I hope this video helps you my dude!
@@xanderraymondcharles I've been looking at some but haven't dared to pull the trigger. This video probably pushes me over the edge 😁 I'll start with a cheaper one to see how it grows on me.
@@SteinG if ur just lookin to dip ur toes with 30" scale lengths, I just ordered a subzero rogue VI baritone . they go for like $350 and apart from some QC issues I heard good things
@@TheCatalystOS that is EXACTLY the one I've been looking at!! Especially that white one 😂 thanks for pushing me even closer to the edge of baritones 🤘
@@SteinG i ordered the white one last week. Should be here next week hopefully 😄
Pat Obrien from Cannibal Corpse put me on baritone want one ever since
Excellent !! Thank you for that !! Cheers !!
64 yrs young and interested in the baritone guitar,I love the crunch ...( I'm a drummer btw ).
I play bass also, but next is baritone guitar 😏 ...still
Baritone guitars are great if you're used to the neck thickness of a regular 6 string guitar, extended range guitars can be a little cumbersome to play with the wider neck. Plus changing strings is cheaper and easier with 6 strings!
My 29.75 inch gretsch baritone is going to be done at the luthier tomorrow. Got some fishman will adler's put in. I can not WAIT to hear the difference from those cheaper mini humbuckers to the best I can get. Drop G is going to be very tasty
Man I really appreciate your opinion.
Was just wondering about this subject, good timing :)
I own the Epiphone Machinehead baritone V and the Line 6 Shuriken 27 I love baritone It break me out of ruts I get with the 24.75 or 25.5 inch necks
Just got me a Solar Baritone and having a blast with it
Bro your voice sounds just like The Dooo!!
Awesome video bro , I appreciate it. I can't stop buying guitars and wanted to get a HB Amarok but they are pretty much copies of a c1 platinum and I have one. Then I find out they make a baritone Amarok and was gonna order it but was unsure whether I would like it. I just ordered it thanks to you 🎸🤘🍻
I have always played a 6 string along with bass. Although I tried an Ibanez 8 string out at a shop the neck width is my issue. It was thicker than my Fender P-bass.
Thanks this is the first video where someone didn't just pick up a baritone and start shredding with no explanation and just saying Issa low
Great explanation, man. I've been looking to get into playing doom metal, and when I upgrade guitars to something WITHOUT a Floyd Rose, I'm going to downtune it to C# Standard, on a skinny top heavy bottom set of strings. I see no point in going down lower than that on a regular scale lenght guitar, but I've been wanting more and more a baritone. I know they'll already sound HUGE under distortion on B standard,but you downtune even lower! I'm amazed.
Started as a bass player switched to baritone because the band I joined already had a bass player and I wasn’t gonna switch to guitar.
my next guitar will be a baritone for sure! I was thinking a 7 string to do lower tunings, but I think I'm going to go the baritone route since I'm used to 6 strings and I won't have to really learn anything different but I will get a 7 string down the road.
I find baritone too "plinky" sounding compared to a 7 in the same tuning. Too much tension.
@@vorpalblades At what tuning, with what strings, playing what? You just can't go around the internet generalizing like that brother smh
Great video and outlook! Worth a follow for sure :)
those riffs are sick bro!
Love ❤ the shirt!
Thanks for the video. I appreciate your knowledge and definitely respect your enthusiasm.
Fender VI: a 30" scale length. Some would argue it is a bass and others would argue it is a guitar. You are in E (one octave below standard E).
@agufish Should do a video to explain how a standard tuned guitar AND baritone sound TOGETHER?!
So, to expand on what Ray said earlier with there not being a set start and endpoint for baritone scale lengths, there's honestly also not really a set definition, more just, guidelines. For me, baritones are both a scale length and a tuning. Anywhere from 26.5"-30" on a 6-string (minimum increases on a 7- or 8-string, but I'm focusing on 6s) and tuned anywhere from B standard/drop A to F standard/drop Eb. I cut it off there, bc once you get to E standard/drop D1 and lower, it's what's known as a bass vi (vi as in the roman numeral for 6, not as in the first syllable of, say, violet, for those unaware).
Any 6-string in that scale range is a baritone guitar, yes, but they can also be used for normal tunings. For example, Austin, from Trogly's Guitar Show, tunes his baritones up to E standard, because he likes the increased string tension. Buckethead tunes his to Eb standard, because he doesn't have a baritone to tune low, he has a baritone because the dude's tall as hell.
Similarly, normal guitars can be put in baritone tunings, though it's ill-advised beyond drop A. That said, I've seen people do drop G on Gibson scales. In fact, actually, I think Lee Malia of Bring Me The Horizon is one of those people. Don't quote me, my memory's trash. But, a baritone tuning doesn't make it a baritone guitar.
Simply put, baritone guitars are just *optimized* for baritone tunings. They don't need to be used for those tunings exclusively, and they aren't the only ones that can be tuned that low.
There's another youtube channel, The Bunn. Dude's all about baritones and tuning low, has been for years, and is an amazing source of info and entertainment.
Anyways, that's my unintentional mini essay on baritones. All y'all take care, and stay metal \m/
Just picked up Squier Paranormal Series Baritone Cabronita Telecaster felt so good. Only have at it at a B right now but might try A sharp after watching this video
dude, that shirt...piper!. great video, have a PRS 27.7 and love it. also have a schecter7 and a PRS Holcomb 7 and i'm torn between 7's and baritones.
my 30 inch baritone is arriving tomorrow. gonna have that in drop d or c (an octave down lmao)
I subscribed...I hope to live the dream someday soon also! Rock on!
Love this video. I really have been debating on getting a baritone. Also I hope you get a chance to check out some of the Chapman baritones this year. They have 3 or 4 different ones on their website available.
The only baritone I've played is a Danelectro 29.75" Baritone and that thing was unplayable. It was so painful for me to reach the first fret. Felt like I had to stretch so far to even play the thing. Maybe a 27" baritone would be better for me. I do love me some drop A. But I find a 25.5" scale to be way easier to play but sounds a lot worse for super down tuned stuff. It could also be that my pickups aren't that good for low tunings.
Some baritones will have the bridge positioned deeper into the body, making the stretch to the first fret a lot less painful
Hey, to add on a limitations of baritone guitar surprisingly it is a bass! In range from drop G# to drop E it is pretty hard to get good sounding bass on octave lower and in unison bass would be too high to beef up mix. IMHO best tuning range would be up from standard to drop A for octave bass and then drop e and lower so you can get unison bass. Second thing I would say is that certain chords sound better and some sound worse on a baritone. I mean something like a Am chord would sound pretty dark one octave down so you would need adjust position which would be around 7 fret on 4th string and it would not sound more tense than on standard scale in basic position. For me personally, best of both worlds is seven string in drop d tuning with low E.
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Every play a Bass VI? I've even seen guys string those with baritone strings. Wild stuff.
they are also great for black metal
Thanks for this video! (Well, all of them haha) Just got my first baritone guitar (Squier Jazzmaster, prob your fault LOL) and wow, it feels like a new toy hehe, getting inspired and getting ready to create!
Hey Ray! I'm from the mouth of the Yukon River in Alaska. I've been watching your channel for a couple years now and that fender baritone you have is one of my dream guitars. Are there different baritone scales that you like for different tunings? I've never played one because I'm a Les Paul or any single cut type of guitar player. I really like 25½" scale guitars though but don't own one. What string gauge would you prefer for a Les Paul type guitar?
I'm a bassist that likes to play guitar as well, I've got a baritone cabronita (B-B tuning ) it's kind of a natural counterpart to my 5 string basses. I also have a Bass VI but I find the baritone more useful
Can you and “the bunn” from baritone obsessed do a collab? I think you two are the main 6 string baritone guitar channels and that would be wild!!!
I guess PRS has the 277 and Fender's got the Cabronita, but imagine having models like Subsonic Strats get their overdue rerelease. Hell seeing the big brands commit to new baritone models would be so sick, like a Fender Subsonic Tele/Jazz, PRS SC277 or McCarty 277, and possibly a reissue of those beefy Gibson LP baritones from the early 00s
I just sold my Squier Cabro Barry. Just didn't really vibe with it. Didn't help that the first baritone I ever played was my buddy's semi-hollow PRS 227. LMAO!
I think the non-Bigsby Gretsch 29.75" Barry's going to be the next one for me.
have the PRS277 and its amazing.
Gday Ray cheers for the awesome content mate love from Australia I’m a big Van Halen fan, on the topic of baritone have you seen the epic ‘Spanked’ baritone double neck? Keep killing it with the content mate 🔥🤟🏻
THEY LIVE!! Also... Rev ruuuuules!!
Hi bud,
I'm not a complete beginner but tried to play several times over many years but its only now I'm truly getting the hang of playing after all these years,
so i have a schecter hellraiser c-1 six string and love it but i want the heavy brutal sound. (carcass /paradise lost sound)
But my big question is do i go baritone or 7 string plus im 6`6" big guy
so yeah I'm really torn on what road to go down???
thanks for the cool content peace out!
GREAT video. I'm torn between trying a 7-string or a baritone. I'm bored of the standard 6 string and want to gravitate towards slow thick, meaty, sludgy riffs. Why did you go with baritone instead of 7-string? THANKS!
I have a chapman Rebea baritone，28 inches.，I tune to drop G，Fan from China！！！
Greetings from Vermont 🍁 I’ve missed playing a multi scale guitar and I am about to grab a baritone guitar by Gretsch. Can’t beat $500 for a decent guitar!
Hey Ray, is there any particular model you would recommend, in a somewhat intermediate price range?
Liked the video, as always good job man, keep it up :)
Nice! Been in drop C for around 22yrs. Wanting to build a baritone to get more massive low-end to complement the C tuning. What would you tune the baritone to for that?
Herndon.
I'm trying to do the same
Hello Ray, thank you, and may I ask what it is you are playing at about 5:45? is it on one of your albums?? Ive just rented a Gretsch JET baritone, its lots of fun! thanks again
Just bought a Descent hoping it works out as I sing baritone..noting all peeps use this ax for lead metal and crunch tunes
Just bought a Danelectro vintage baritone. Can't wait to get my hands on it. Have you played it?
I play in Drop B on a standard 6 string guitar with a floyd rose, anything lower than that is too low for me. I use GHS Boomers 10 thru 60 gauge. BTW, My guitar is a LTD Model F-200
Hi Rey, nice Shirt you have there
Hi Ray :) I've been playing for 30 years, but I'm new to the baritone. I have an Ibanez RGD320 26.5" scale guitar(Drop A# tuning). I think the pickups are too weak. I've only one chance because of my budget. Actives, passives, EMG, Bare Knucle, Seymour Duncan, Fishman Fluence...? I'm so confused. I need your advice. Thank you for this beautiful channel by the way 😎
Top 5 Baritones under $1,000? I have been looking, and trying to find one that is a quality build for the price. PRS 277, is that a good one for an intermediate player on a budget?
Dumb question but I learned to play by ear and not real savvy on chords. That being said I built a custom baritone for myself and would really like someone to help me out on transposing your basic standard chords such as G, C, D, Em, Am, Bm, F. That way I have an idea when I’m creating music or playing along with standard tuned folks. By the way my baritone is tuned in basic B to B tuning. Any help much appreciated!🤘🏼🫶🏼
I have a subzero rougue vi guitar that also has a 30" scale, and the low wound string on the baritone slinky set from ernie ball was too short for the reverse headstock. I feel like this is important to point out when buying string for scraaaazy scale lenghts like this.
What set did you end up using?
ghs 8 string set
3:46 I GOTTA hear you play some Breaking Benjamin, dude!!!
As someone new to playing would you recommend a baritone.
I can only justify getting 1 guitar atm, but they definitely produce the sound and type of music I want to play.
Should I play it safe and buy a more standard guitar, or go for "the deep end" and a baritone.
I have scene a contrabass guitar but it was custom made.
Hey Ray! Been following your channel for about a year now. Love your content. I’ve been gravitating towards a baritone myself, you might be to blame for that! What tuning capabilities would a 26.5” scale length have?
My 7 string has a 26.5 scale length. I can tune it down to drop A or D standard with 10s and it's fine. I never really go lower than that though, so I can't speak on that.
Hreat post, thank you for this info. My question is, I love tuning low, and I own a seven string. What are the benefits to going baritone guitars VS. like eight strings of modified seven?
I want/need that Squire.
New-ish learner here. Are baritones OK to learn guitar on or stick to standard scale length ones?
I gotta get on the baritones oughhhhh
I just got my Bass VI. I understand most people use em for low tunings, but the idea of having a lower octave rhythm guitar is extremely appealing to me.
But I predominantly play in Dropped C#, any idea what string gauge would be good for a 30inch scale length?
The Bass VI kinda uses all wound strings for a full octave lower than standard E. But I think Loathe and other bands use the Bass VI with baritone strings.
Trying to find a baritone set that can get me to a comfortable Dropped C# without being full wounds like the typical Bass VI string set.
Awesome video as always. I guess my question would be asides from the number of strings, why would you choose a 7 or 8 string?
Different scale lengths available, from 25.5" to 30".
Hey Ray! You should try the "SubZero Rogue VI Baryton" (30'' scale lenght) from Gear4Music in U.K.
They look so cool in Polar White with the Maple Board and Black Block Inlays !!
... and you're right,.... it's All For the Riffs !!!!!
Greetings from France !!
I want to start playing more in the drop B and maybe lower like A, but all my guitars struggle to stay in tune that low. I don’t know what guitar would be best for it
Hi, cool channel and best wishes from Hamburg, German. One question: What tuning would you recommend for a baritone guitar, when the band plays in dropC?
Hello from West London.
I’ve a MiM VI Pawn Shop which is baritone set. It’s backed up with a new-ish Squier Bari-Tele. But my question is AMPS!! What amp for heavy baritone guitar ?? I play heavy rock in a stoner doom Sabbath type vibe with a bit of metal and indie thrown in. Any suggestions welcome as I’m frankly baffled. Currently playing an Ampeg Rocket and a Peavey Bandit. This due to current budget rather than choice. That said it sounds ok.
Hey I had a question about baritone guitar. Can you teach me how to play one?
you should check out THE Bunn channel would be a solid baritone collab, 26.5 is solid for SHREDDY baritone, 28.5 is as far I would go cuz 30 is a BASS VI short scale makes chording complex but do do drop F GREAT one of my buddy swears by it.
When you say you tune to drop C, are you tuning to an open C or just dropping the 6th string to C then tuning it like you would typically 440 tuning?