Chris Poland on How Much He Made During His Megadeth "Peace Sells' & Circle Jerks Days - Interview X
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Chris Poland talks about the financial differences between Megadeth and Circle Jerks.
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I still have an autographed Peace Sells promo poster with all four signatures framed. PK
Peace sells but who’s paying? Megadebt
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Probably why it took him so long to clean up to.
I LIKE IT😊
Met Chris Poland when he was in his band called Damn the Machine. This was after "Return to Metalopolis" came out. Both releases are phenomenal IMO. BTW he was a super cool guy to talk to.
I saw Damn the Machine live once, opening for Voivod. I think that was in '93. DtM had a pretty good self-titled album, and put on a good show.
Chris is a lot older than Megadeth. He was born in '57 which makes him an old school jazz guy. Same as Gar. I was lucky to see them on the Peace Sells Tour and they were amazing. The best lineup of Deth. Chris is the greatest guitarist I've ever heard other than Alan Holdsworth. The man is clear out of this world. And he's a natural self taught musician which are usually the best.
Yeah, I'll take the Killing/Peace Sells line-up over any subsequent one. Poland had a unique approach to phrasing with those crazy-ass bends and flurries of jazz-inflected notes. And Gar Samuelson was in a class by himself. Monstrous instrumental talent. Mustaine hit a freakin' grand slam with those guys, even if they weren't the most reliable people.
@@reprintranch Yeah it's a shame. He had to fire them coz they were stealing his gear to buy smack. Luckily Chris got himself clean but Gar succumbed to liver failure due to all the drink and drugs he'd done over the yrs. Smack played a massive part in Megadeth formative years. Chris was actually asked back in 1990 but refused coz they were still doing smack and he was off it by then.
Gar and Chris were part of a fusion trio that played New York for years before they ever set foot in Megadeth. Superb players.
I saw that tour also. If I remember correctly.... Megadeth opened up for Dio. But I may be confused. Because I saw tons of concerts back in the 80,s.
Wow
I saw the Circle Jerks when Poland was their bassist. He looked like he was having fun. It was a great show.
Fuck yeah, cool!
$200 a week sounds rough, even back then it really wasn't much. What he did get out of it was his most recognised work of his entire career, without Chris' Megadeth work, I doubt half his current fans would even know about him. A really talented guitarist, that old stuff still sounds fresh.
That's what Randy got in Ozzy. Vivian Campbell was paid $100/week.
@@steveeckert8396 I think Jason Newstead was on $500 a week in 87. Makes you wonder what's up when the guy selling t shirts is making more than the musicians.
@@tog2842 because the musicians the bands hire are employees of a business, they did not create the business themselves, they just have to play music as basic replacable employees!
And they get to become famous just by being an employee, I'd sign up for free as well as so many others.
Offer and demand. They could pay a dollar a week and the lineup of musicians would be miles long for that tyoe of exposure.
@@johnc1666 there was no Megadeth before Chris Poland though. He helped craft that original sound and band identity.
@@WhyTheHorseface what are you talking about? There's a reason Poland doesn't have that many leads on the Peace Sells album, and it's Dave doing most of the solo's. Dave had most of the songs written before Chris even joined the band. Megadeth was a 3 piece when Poland saw them, they were performing like that. They had Kerry King sit in on some gigs before Chris ever joined the band. Chris was basically there to play rhythm while Dave solo'd. Go look at all the songs and look who does the solo's. The only song where Chris has more solo's then Dave is on Peace Sells, every other song is Dave doing most of the solo's. Dave was still in his lead guitar mode on those first two albums. It was Gar that gave them their jazz feel with his drumming.
During peace sells day Megadeth was a opening act, The bands first big album made everyone rich but themselves, What they had was a habit and instruments
I saw them headline during Peace Sells. They played 12 songs. That was almost all their songs from the first 2 albums. Overkill opened up for the Taking Over album.
Megadeth headlined a couple of times during the Peace Sells era, around 84' and Killing is my Business they were opening acts
In the 80's and thru the mid 90's I did the same thing. I would buy guitars from pawn shops and people throughout the midwest ship them to LA to my cousin and triple my money - then the internet fucked everything up.
There is/was a small chain of stores in WI that was sort of quietly infamous for that, up until about ten years ago. They'd buy basically anything Fender USA or Gibson or Rickenbacher they could get from broke musicians... and sell them to rich idiots in Japan. You had to know someone who worked there to get a look at anything decent before it got shipped overseas.
Gotta love the Circle Jerks being a hardcore punk band full of wily capitalists.
Lol ikr? I can’t blame them. You gotta keep your lights on regardless of what your politics are. Plus running water is nice. 😁
When musicians make money is the one time capitalism isn't okay in America. Such a stupid talking point.
What is the implication of this comment? Not every Punk/Hardcore band are socialists. The Circle Jerks through out their entire run weren't a politically active band lol
Yeah, it’s not like they’re like those hypocrites Rage Against the Machine.
@@regortex3364 what’s wrong with RATM?
People you'd expect to be paid a lot because they are metal superstars are criminally underpaid. I think Gene Hoglan, one of the all-time greatest drummers ever, makes like 400$ a show with Testament. Figure 20 shows a month, for a 3-month tour leg. That's 60 shows. That's 24 000$. Before taxes, for not having been home for 1/3 of the year. So unless you tour all the time (and most musicians don't), they're lucky if they make more money than a manager at a local fast food joint.
Dave Lombardo left Slayer cuz he was making $40k playing for 9 months a year in the biggest thrash band ever.
This isn't so much a thing now, but back then bands got a good chunk of their money off album sale royalties as well as merchandise. I'm pretty sure Gene made better scratch than some fast food manager.
I’m mean it’s Testament. Limited crowd. Limited money. They probably make 50k a year. Chump change.
@@jeffjackson9679 not much more
@@brandonharris9160 Really? Living on a bus going to a new city every day might be fun when your in your 20's but it's really gotta suck in your 40's and 50's.
I'm starting to get into this channel. Love the content its awesome. I'm glad this channel popped up in my algorithm. Subscribed.
Welcome. I'm glad, too. Thanks for listening.
Same here. A lot of interesting stuff that I've never heard before.
I like Chris' humility in playing bass for the Jerks (whom I like about the same as 'deth). To hear a much less accomplished player play guitar and just support the music with bass, what a great attitude!
@Clint Cannon A great punk player, but Chris Poland's jazz/metal technical virtuosity is another level. That doesn't mean it's what I prefer to listen to usually, but it is what it is.
Bass is awesome
NOW..... Everybody's Going to Be Looking For Their Van And Traiier!!
R.I.P. Nick
Take Care Chris.
Best guitarist of all Megadeth guitarist!!
Oh yeah man never clicked a link faster in my life!
Me either
Dave pays out money ($200) like Gene Simmons.
Gene and Paul paid more than that. Dio on the other hand was proud of paying Vivian Campbell $500 a week.
@@rticle15 You clearly have not read Dio's book.
@@THSBIAJKK I havent read a lot of books but I heard him say it with my own ears. He said he was making Vivian famous, so he felt justified in giving him crumbs. Forget the fact that Campbell created the guitar work to the greatest songs Dio ever recorded. Im a fan of Dio. Just totally disagree with that practice.
@@rticle15 I'm a guitar player and a gig like Dio is like winning the lottery. No pay in money is required because you get a type of pay that is much more valuable for any musician : rock star status.
Now if you're greedy, you refuse the job, there are 12000 in line behind you because you are just a replacable employee of a major business named Dio.
But he accepted, and instead of having earned 100k a year, lets say, he earned a spot in music history which allows him to be a famous rich rockstar to this day.
That's how the music business works. You want a regular pay, go work at the bank.
@K-Pine440 🌲 not solely, but it looks good on a portfolio.
Being the lead guitar player of a band of this caliber, you make history.
After that if you play your cards right, you can stay in the game.
It's a dream gig for which thousands of young guitar players aspire. I'll pay to play one night with them at their prime!! And I can play any of those solos.
2 of my favorite bands
I was in a real Circle Jerk once.
Last one who busts,has to lick it up 👅
@@Raw-guitar yeah I bet you volunteered for that
Were you the center piece!?
How was it?
People say and I agree Rust In Peace was the best Meg line up but I always thought Chris was one of the coolest Meg guys too 🤘💀🤘
Saw Megadeth 3 x with the Chris and Gar lineup, fantastic band in those days. Also got to be in the Wake up Dead video, talked to all of them except Dave M who was to messed up to converse. If you watch the video, look at Dave's eyes...
if this is true you are a legend
@@thrashislife2654 absolutely true, i can be seen in the beginning of the video when the fence gets knocked over, i have a Megadeth shirt on white body black sleeves, and through most of the video i am standing on the far left up against the stage. 1 shot from overhead im in the middle of the frame . It was a pretty cool deal, my buddy won tix on KNAC to be in the video, McMartin Aviation hanger, Burbank Airport
@@jkbearhunter good job you werent the 'Guy slips , and i swear to god he had a bra on'
If yer never watched 'Decline of western civilisation pt 2'
You wont know what i mean.
Great story. Wake up dead & in my darkest hour was on repeat when i taped sum heavy metal show on VHS. Musta seen that 100x. Only saw RIP line up. Gutted i missed Peace Sells tour.
@@armondtanz HAHAHAHAHAHA YES!!! HAHAHAHAHA
No mention of what was going on in their lifestyles at the time of Peace Sells...?
I know I have read a little more to the story than Dave just not paying him enough. Chris is a living legend, why can't we focus on that? Underlying vibe of just trying to throw some shade on Dave, as usual.
Poland and Samuelson's contributions is what helped form the Megadeth sound we know and love. Gratitude to both. ✌️💰
We've all read on Dave whining about the boot he got from Hetfield and drummer dude. Took him many albums to get over it. Probably a blessing to be away from Dave and his insecurities .
@@navaskin , I would imagine it is.😊 Chris is a great guy, it's the interviews that get old. Same goes for Mustaine. If you're a fan, these stories are old and tired.
Chris is such a unique player.
snap# those warp speed fusion licks...ouch. Credit to DM, he knows how to pick 'em.
@@brendanoneil3489 you're right. Chris was the least "metal" guitar player Mustaine could have found. Same with Gar. People always ooh and ah over Marty but in my opinion Chris was the man.
@@JoeyArmstrong2800 me trying to learn 'peace sells' , those licks... czcams.com/video/7MzEcvjPQ6I/video.html
What’s that song at the intro of video?
What he said about van vs bus echoes what Joel of Toxic Holocaust said. You rough it out and you end up with more in the end.
It just shocks me how many of these talented rock musicians from the 80s, 90s get these great gigs and are so underpaid.
It's because they owe their labels money from that huge generous advance bands are given when they got signed. Until it's paid off most bands won't see that much money unless their record goes platinum or they make a second record that sells more than the first one.
Have a look on CZcams as to what Dave Lombardo has to say.
That was because at the time, major record labels had a powerful grip on the industry, distribution and mainstream culture. At the time if you wanted your band to be rockstars and make a good living making music.
Dont bite off more than you can chew🤷 music is a business. If im a record exec and i give u a generous advancement for a tour you BETTER have my money when you come Off that tour.
You also gotta take into consideration that many of these talented rock musicians had nasty habbits with opiates that eat through your money.
Return to Metalopolis is an awesome album.
Easily the baddest dude that band ever had
Marty Friedman
I never would have guessed he made more with a less popular group, i assuming it depends on who is handling the Money
many times it was the Record company. which did the Famous TRICK heres a Million in Advance - 7 months later OH yeah you own us 1.5 Million.
Record companies pay out advances to bands on how they feel the album will do. But bands won't see another dime until the record label makes it's money back on the advance. Not defending the label but they take all risk by paying for all the cost associated with making an album, as well as promotion/marketing, so yes they do need to make their investments back. But they always say the first thing a band should do is hire a lawyer. There are a lot of shitty labels out there and a lot of young bands will sign shitty contracts because they're just happy to be on a label.
@@Gregbaltzer yeah i know it's a Corny Business, just sucks to see many Bands got screwed over throughout the Years.
@@Gregbaltzer Th move is to NOT take an advance but take a bigger portion off the back end. Jewel made bank on that first album because they offered a $1,000,000 advance and she turned it down..she didnt want to be in debt for the rest of her life so she countered with give me a bigger percentage of the back end and she got the biggest percentage deal of any artist at the time.....now shes debt free and making more. And she turned that million advance down when she was literally living in a van down by the river.
@@markherring3513 Yeah, but when you're a beginning artist and young metalhead with probably barely enough money to buy food for the entire band, which is common, than most people will take the advance, because it'll be a long time before royalties start coming in. Most metal bands aren't gonna be offered a $1,000,000 advance. Most times is probably just going to be in the 10s of thousands area. Most young metal bands aren't on major labels. Hopefully by the time a major comes you've got a good lawyer to read the contract.
About 30 seconds after clicking the link all I could think is "I'm bored" but after a minute or two I realized I was in A Room With A View.
He who writes the songs, gets the cake.
I wonder how far they could have gone with the guitar buying scheme?
Now let's hear from Dave Lombardo
Dude, at least the first two links have no sound at all. And there is no way to notify you of that because comments there are turned off.
I have no idea what you're talking about. I just clicked the first two links in the description and both worked. Comments are turned ON on my link to the Megadeth Producer excerpt, but I did notice the Death Angel channel has their comments turned off. Did you check your volume?
@@fullinbloom Thanks, man. You're right. I don't know what happened on my end bc I was able to hear this video but not the other two. False alarm, I guess.
@@SINC0MENTARI0S Cool. Glad it worked out.
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Ah, I hate hearing about musicians making squat when they contributed so much.
Btw, if you can get in his ear please tell him that the comment section is what makes a YT community. Edit - Good or bad...
Smart
Especially if you travel a lot, buying things cheap in one place then flipping them in places they are worth more is just a genius idea.
It doesn't have to be illegal stuff!
Sometime the system does work in your favour.
Chasing the sun is a fantastic album, check it out.
I remember seeing somewhere where Dave Mustaine said Chris Poland could play "circles" around him.
He said it on VH1's Behind The Music. That always stood out to me as Dave has rarely (if ever?) paid that kind if compliment to anyone else.
@@SeaToSkyImages That's interesting. He also praised broderick saying that he's the best guitarist the band ever had. Do you agree with him?
@@SeaToSkyImages if you say rarely!? Then you pay to much attention to rumors and highschool drama.
I would say Dave's been to damn nice to them while shoulder all the bad.
All the other band mates seem to have no accountability for their own actions. Just blame Dave.
Maybe he did not make any money, but he became inspire of the band's two first records legacy..
Yeah but what if someone breaks in the trailer and steals those guitars
Same as if they stole their cash.
insurance. Throw a few bucks down cover your ass. Especially if its a routine.
These guys were all a mess in that original lineup. They were on herion and whatever they could score all waking hours. Apparently Gar and Chris were selling guitars(Dave’s) and gear before shows to get their fix leaving them to scramble before the gig to even make it happen. I even read they were so fucked up at their own album release party for Peace Sells…. that they all got into a brawl in the back of a limo and Dave is quoted as saying he “kicked Chris in the face multiple times”. They were all completely out of control and I’m going to go out on a limb and say I don’t think any of them were thinking about tomorrow or saving for the future. I loved that lineup. Too bad they wanted to kill each other.
Man I love all your videos and interviews but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD please change this damn backing track that loops after every 10 seconds!
I love space chicken.
200 a week in the 80’s is about 500 a week in 2021 that’s not that bad lol
It's not that good, either.
Should have joined Poison
Hahah Killer!
Richie Kotzen made a killing in Poison financially, but he wrote that whole album pretty much!
How much money in heroine did you consume. In megadeath?
Megadeth never sounded the same after that album. Come to figure it was gar and Chris with Jazz influence that brought that sound to the music.
Look folks , Chris Poland is lying his Azz off . He was getting way more than 200 a week in Megadeth . He was spending probably twice that amount per week on slamming his arm with Heroin as he was a hard Heroin addict for as long as he was in Megadeth . I mean on top of that the guy basically stole , and pawned Megadeth instruments and gear just to feed his Heroin habit . Chris has a lot of balls to even compare Megadeth with the Circle Jerks . It's not even a comparison . Megadeth as a band are Iconic in Metal history in general for the last 38 years now , with or without him . The Circle jerks were a fad that came and went .
The Circle Jerks used to play City Gardens in Trenton NJ constantly.
great venue! saw black flag and the dead kennedy's there too!
This guy was the best Megadeth guitarist behind Marty Friedman.
I still put him ahead of Marty. No bash on Marty, but Chris is one of the GOATs.
Marty had a very hard time playing anything off the first 2 albums. Also the demo for Polaris with poland is fucking awesome
@@ayahuasc-emusicwithfeeling4456
Every guy since has had a hard time playing Poland's stuff. His technique is so unique it's virtually unreproducible.
People always mentioning marty covering stuff by chris but it would be interesting to hear chris covering martys stuff.
@@Powermad-bu4em check out Txampi, he makes the best Poland's solos covers imo.
That's what Dio paid Vivian Campbell, too. It must have been standard. Of course the band covered all cost of living while on the road, I'm sure, so that $200 was disposable income, but still.......
Peace sells, so far so good so What best 2 album's but I'm not supporting megadeth anymore after mustain fired David ellefson for the stupidest reason
What a shame,that really sucks,didn’t Lombardo feel the same about the money situation in Slayer,.... and that’s why he left.I find this really annoying.👎
Theres no hero in heroin.
Technically there is.
It's insane to think that Poland was paid $200.00 a week when he was in Megadeth. I would love to know if he was signed to Capitol Records or if the arrangement was similar to when WASP was signed to Capitol. I believe for WASP only Blackie had a real record deal. The other guys didn't??
Dave paid him as a sideman, not an equal band member.
@@dmitryowens that's fucked up
Chris and Gar were there from the beginning. F Greedy Mustaine.
What a prick.
@@angryagain3801
Especially after how he treated Dave Ellefson.
@@angryagain3801 jesus christ, do some research. Capitol was known for being greedy in the 80s. All the "big" acts they signed were just ways for them to pocket as much money as possible. Megadeth were only a few years old at that point so 1.) they were making less despite growing more popular, 2.) they were signed to a record contract (not just mustaine, but all of them) and had to pay back the label, and 3.) the most profits they'd make, if any, were from touring and since they still weren't headlining a ton during the Peace Sells tour, it was next to nothing. Now? Sure, Mustaine can pay whatever he wants since he literally owns the band. Back in the 80s? not so much.
It was Dave's signature on the contract....all the other guys were hired guns.
200$ a week?!?! And what was Dave making?
the rest
It always pisses me off how much people swing from Marty Friedman’s nuts saying he was the best. Chris Poland is the best megadeth guitarists and owns Marty
marty has covered all chris solos, how many marty solos has chris covered?.
@@duncandistortion Did Chris Poland re-join Megadeth ?
Marty didn't played all Poland solos, and "covered" its just a way to don't say that he fucked up Chris solos like all Megadeth guitarist did.
@@jasonsabourin2275 LOL
@@themechanix8804 your reply makes no sense & foul language is uncool.
Why does a van and trailer make more than bus and truck?... Just better gas mileage? Easier to find parking?..
They probably own the van and trailer and drive it themselves. Renting a bus and a truck and paying people to drive them would be much more expensive. Circle Jerks probably set up their own gear instead of paying people to do it for them which would also save a lot of money. Playing clubs as the headliner as opposed to playing arenas opening for another band puts a bigger percentage of the money earned from the show in your pocket.
1,200.00 dollars a day plus gas , and driver cost per day for the Rockstar bus
They get like 6 miles to a gallon. Big savings with van and trailer . I know , ive done both .
Punk bands might not have sold as many albums but they almost always made more per album sell and almost all profit from t shirts sells. Less music industry people mooching off them too.
@@austin_l Punk bands know the music industry is full of Juice and Juice love money.
less insurance too...less maintenance also.
If Dave was so bad to him why'd he track demos for Rust In Peace while trying to rejoin and play on The System Has Failed?
Because Dave asked Poland to record both RIP and TSHF as a session player, and in both times Dave asked Poland if he wanted to rejoin and he rejected both times
@@WhoBlah21 So he worked for free? Try again
@@Ayyem93
Session players don't work for free.
@@dmitryowens I know, that just goes back to my original point:If Dave was so bad and unfair to Chris, why did Chris work with him multiple times after leaving the band?
@@Ayyem93
Probably because it was a more high profile and lucrative option than anything else he had going on.
he left out spending loot on herion in megadeth...party
He could hardly buy a bag of H with that.
Circle Jerks fuggin rule!! Screw MegaDave and his soft metal weirdness...
Not much
I guess Mustaine was keeping all the profits for himself. No wonder Megadeth is a revolving cast of musicians under Mustaine's control. I prefer bands that stick together: you know: Alex, Geddy, and Neil - that kind of thing. Each of them got 1/3. It worked.
While I agree with you, Rush is really an anomaly. All three guys were good friends that valued their relationship just as much as their music, and all three contributed equally to the music-making and production process. None of the three traded their relationship for more fame, but fame came their way anyhow. This is quite rare. More often it is one or maybe two people in the band that become the songwriters and thus defacto leaders of the band.
In megadeth all the money 💰 go to dave pocket...plus acting like a big jerk
Ok...I know people like to have fun and act like they have any idea how any of this works but will someone actually talk REAL numbers??? Was Mustaine making $5K a show and Poland making $200??? NO. Before you claim how much someone "should" be making, maybe you should actually KNOW the numbers. By the way, there's an ENTIRE CREW; Merch, stage roadies, lighting, Sound guys, Road Managers, etc. So please tell me THEIRS salaries too, divide up what was made at every show and THEN tell me how much people SHOULD have made and how they were supposed to be profitable so they can do it again...you know, an INFORMED OPINION instead of some stupid, ignorant bullshit.
Only one person made a lot of money with Megadeth...Mr. Mustaine himself. Everyone else were just employees.
I’m sure Ellfeson is not financially hurting either
Dave Mustaine seems like a greedy selfish guy
Metal rules. Circle Jerks. Way better than megadeath
Who's narrating this? Is he inward talking? Horrible.
When you did all those drugs and pawned all your gear, what do you expect. I just lost the only respect for you I had left. Damn, man!! Smh.
Chris only made $200 a week in Megadeth because Dave Mustaine probably kept 90% of the profits for himself.
this is the most idiotic statement I've read in the comments so far. Megadeth was only a few years old by the time Peace Sells came out and they still owed a ton of money to the record label so 90% of it probably went to the label with some going to the studio, venues, etc. You realize that just because Mustaine is the band leader doesn't mean he controls everything, right? He was just as broke in 1986 and 1987 as he was in 1982 and 1983 playing with Metallica. Plus, Poland has writing credits on the album so Dave couldn't even legally keep more profits if he wanted to.
@@wcnmvp3820
Chris was talking about profits from touring, not song royalties or profits from album sales, so apparently you didn't even watch this short video. Also, the band leader does usually decide how the profits from touring are divided. Furthermore, Chris Poland had ZERO writing credits on Peace Sells. So basically everything you stated above was wrong. Gotta love clueless fools who act like they know it all when they actually know nothing.