A magnificent ship, one of the last true Ocean Liners. Watching her power her way through rough seas that would make most Captains seek safe harbor is a testament to the strength of the gentlemen who built her.
i AM VERY SURPRISED TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF PITCHING QE2 does in what seems only a moderate sea. Capt Bill Warwick stated that her sea keeping qualities were in fact better than the old queens saying she could steam faster for longer i n rough weather
Its because of the balcony cabins added during her refurbishment. they add more weight forward which causes the pitching. Her origional desinger practically disowned the ship after this!
That was my first observation I saw that straight away that's actually a lot worse than I would have ever imagined. too much ballast water is all I can think of
From what I´ve seen, no. The rolling, however, here seems negligible (obviously stabilizers are in action). Remember the QE2 went through a refit (from her original late-sixties design) with added suites (near the bow area) and extra tonnage. This made her actually top heavy, changed her original center of gravity and altered her original design. Obviously, her hull is sleek and still cuts through the water. From what I´ve seen of her in heavy seas, she pitches exactly in the place where she put on weight. The QM2 is more balanced in that sense, but I´d imagine any real ocean liner like the France or the Michelangelo (with their deeper draught than either the QE2 or QM2) would have a much smoother ride in these same oceans, certainly more than the QE2 here. I don´t know about the QM2, because of her size (I don´t know about her design nor am I a specialist) but she´s certainly top heavy, but the reports hold that she handles herself fairly well, better than the QE2 did.
I would like to add if I may that the QM2 is indeed a real ocean liner. What Roberto pointed above is that the France and others may have had deeper draughts. Just to make something clear, many of the modern giant cruiseships have a low center of gravity as well with engines, restaurants etc down low. Their upper decks are made of much lighter steel. Those ships however don't have the draught that liners have to be stable across the Atlantic nor do they have the engine power per weight to bust through the heavier ocean waves. Contrary to many who think this, cruise ships are very seaworthy and safe, just not as comfortable or efficient in day in and day out oceanic swells.
For sure. There´s a video (in Italian a RAI program about "i transatlantici italiani") on CZcams about Italian liners (I wish I remember where it is) and towards the end it shows the Michelangelo or Raffaello in weather much worse than what the QE2 is going through here; but you can´t notice the pitch of the bow compared to the horizon (not to say there wouldn´t be some pitch). Even the narrator comments on the seaworthiness and stability of the ship in storm conditions. I have seen other videos of the QE2, and I would not have expected such pitching from such an magnificent ocean liner. At any rate, as to how this really feels in loco, only a passenger who´s been there can tell, since different areas of the ship will have a different feel and the pitch on a longer ship must certainly feel different than on a shorter one. Regarding cruise ships, my reading confirms your comments: obviously the engineers calculate lighter tops and lower center of gravity. They aren´t top-heavy, but there is, however, the question of windage due to a higher surface area (I´m sure this can affect pitch and roll). Interesting about enginer power, which is also a factor: one needs a quicker vessel and more power to get through the North Atlantic, because some weather is bound to slow the ship down. The older ocean liners cut deep into the water (i.e. their deeper draft), and this is something which definitely makes a ride smoother. Definitely the QM2 is the most advanced ocean liner ever: a modern design that adds the balconies - this is what passengers want - but an absolutely solid ship from fore to aft...and fast and powerful and tough. From what I´ve seen and read, she rides better than any other ship.Her bulbous bow also seems to be a recent inovation and her whole design takes into account the especially trecherous waters of the North Atlantic which cruise ships will avoid like the plague.
A magnificent ship, one of the last true Ocean Liners. Watching her power her way through rough seas that would make most Captains seek safe harbor is a testament to the strength of the gentlemen who built her.
We did’nt run for safe harbour in wild rough weather! Ex seaman.
The real iconic queen in the ocean!
Never again will another be seen on the open seas
This is my favorite video of QE2. She is really handling the rough weather as well as to be expected. But she is doing a great job.
I was on board! And back to Southampton as well!
The Only One Of Her Kind. The Very Last Of The Great Superliners. Long Live The QE2. Graceful.
Not a patch on the Great Queen Mary.
Looks more like a large Ferry.
QE2 Un des plus.beaux paquebots a avoir sillonné lAtlantique
I would enjoy my time on the top deck if I was there. This is how a true ocean liner handles rough weathers. :)
i AM VERY SURPRISED TO SEE THE AMOUNT OF PITCHING QE2 does in what seems only a moderate sea. Capt Bill Warwick stated that her sea keeping qualities were in fact better than the old queens saying she could steam faster for longer i n rough weather
Its because of the balcony cabins added during her refurbishment. they add more weight forward which causes the pitching. Her origional desinger practically disowned the ship after this!
That was my first observation I saw that straight away that's actually a lot worse than I would have ever imagined. too much ballast water is all I can think of
Schönes Schiff !! Schöne Aufnahmen!! Wird wohl nie wieder so zu sehen sein!!
Wonderful footage!
The view we had for a week. We feel very privileged
wir waren dabei und es war wunderbar...
QE2は、縦揺れが多いと聞いていましたが…本当なのですね!
That picture is QM2
Being the last run they should have given that thing everything at had an even turned it up a bit more make a record run go out on a high
May we know from which ship this footage was taken?
Queen Mary 2
Does Queen Mary2 also have such high pitching and rolling?
From what I´ve seen, no. The rolling, however, here seems negligible (obviously stabilizers are in action).
Remember the QE2 went through a refit (from her original late-sixties design) with added suites (near the bow area) and extra tonnage. This made her actually top heavy, changed her original center of gravity and altered her original design. Obviously, her hull is sleek and still cuts through the water.
From what I´ve seen of her in heavy seas, she pitches exactly in the place where she put on weight. The QM2 is more balanced in that sense, but I´d imagine any real ocean liner like the France or the Michelangelo (with their deeper draught than either the QE2 or QM2) would have a much smoother ride in these same oceans, certainly more than the QE2 here. I don´t know about the QM2, because of her size (I don´t know about her design nor am I a specialist) but she´s certainly top heavy, but the reports hold that she handles herself fairly well, better than the QE2 did.
Owh!! Best information sir....thank you...
I would like to add if I may that the QM2 is indeed a real ocean liner. What Roberto pointed above is that the France and others may have had deeper draughts. Just to make something clear, many of the modern giant cruiseships have a low center of gravity as well with engines, restaurants etc down low. Their upper decks are made of much lighter steel. Those ships however don't have the draught that liners have to be stable across the Atlantic nor do they have the engine power per weight to bust through the heavier ocean waves. Contrary to many who think this, cruise ships are very seaworthy and safe, just not as comfortable or efficient in day in and day out oceanic swells.
For sure. There´s a video (in Italian a RAI program about "i transatlantici italiani") on CZcams about Italian liners (I wish I remember where it is) and towards the end it shows the Michelangelo or Raffaello in weather much worse than what the QE2 is going through here; but you can´t notice the pitch of the bow compared to the horizon (not to say there wouldn´t be some pitch). Even the narrator comments on the seaworthiness and stability of the ship in storm conditions. I have seen other videos of the QE2, and I would not have expected such pitching from such an magnificent ocean liner. At any rate, as to how this really feels in loco, only a passenger who´s been there can tell, since different areas of the ship will have a different feel and the pitch on a longer ship must certainly feel different than on a shorter one.
Regarding cruise ships, my reading confirms your comments: obviously the engineers calculate lighter tops and lower center of gravity. They aren´t top-heavy, but there is, however, the question of windage due to a higher surface area (I´m sure this can affect pitch and roll). Interesting about enginer power, which is also a factor: one needs a quicker vessel and more power to get through the North Atlantic, because some weather is bound to slow the ship down. The older ocean liners cut deep into the water (i.e. their deeper draft), and this is something which definitely makes a ride smoother.
Definitely the QM2 is the most advanced ocean liner ever: a modern design that adds the balconies - this is what passengers want - but an absolutely solid ship from fore to aft...and fast and powerful and tough. From what I´ve seen and read, she rides better than any other ship.Her bulbous bow also seems to be a recent inovation and her whole design takes into account the especially trecherous waters of the North Atlantic which cruise ships will avoid like the plague.
The qe2 stabilisers look absolutely useless on this footage
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