Breaking News | Wireless Bike Brakes Are A Reality!
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- čas přidán 2. 08. 2024
- We all know about wireless shifting and dropper posts, but why haven`t we seen wireless braking yet? While watching his children playing with RC cars master inventor Blake Samson had a light bulb moment! He turned the RC remote sideways and noticed that it looked similar to the grips and brake levers on a mountain bike, and the idea came to him. Wireless brakes are finally within reach, but how will he turn his 'braking' edge idea into a reality? Anna Cipullo talks to Blake to learn the process of creating the world's first wireless mountain bike brakes.
⏱️ Timestamps ⏱️
00:00 - Intro
00:42 - Why wireless brakes?
02:05 - Where did the idea come from?
03:40 - How does it work?
06:26 - How did you build them?
14:32 - Riding with wireless brakes!
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A I really like this and B if it is well executed why not... The part about the brakes being on as a sort of default no power position reminds me of a lorry where if air pressure is lost the brakes turn on...
nope
just in time for the solar maximum! I really hope that NO ONE follow this "dream". If your wireless dropper fail, it becomes an normal one. If your wireless gears fail, your bike becomes a fixgear bike but if your brake fail...
Never Never Ever!
Wednesday Thuesday Friday is going on for ppl that are so crazy.
I Hope for him the Battery is always charged and the servos nerver failing him. Oh and he only drives where only a tree and himself can get harmed.
@@oscargarcia9665 In this case he would have to carry his bike as the brakes would be locked in the braking position...
I absolutely love his ingenuity and the way he thought about this and came to a solution. Im still unsure about a wireless brake setup though, but having built in fail safes like Blake did is a good touch. Congrats on this!
He is truly a man of science! Blake's done an amazing job 🤘
@@gmbntech Its simple: formula one and motogp don´t use wireless brakes.
I love that they had to explain that brakes used to have cables. Making me feel old.
Cable actuated disc brakes are the best of both worlds. They give you solid braking power in nice and bad weather, and you can repaird them aside of the road.
Yeah but electronic brakes aren't the next thing lol. Hydraulics aren't going anywhere because nothing is better. Get real.
Once EMBN get hold of this, it will be a bike that will ride the trails itself, while you sit in the nice warm Cafe with the RC controller.
Look at the presenters they already look like they don't do any actual riding.
No way will I ever feel like I trust this.
Me too but my do we trust a cable/hydraulics, is it just because it physically there, we trust electronic wireless gears
@@reecedawson6113 Cable/Hydraulics tend to stay working and are very well proven.
Wireless can be broken in so many ways it's crazy.
Finally, wireless gear doesn't work/stops working mid ride you can probably still pedal granted in a potentially inconvenient gear. Brakes stop working/run out of charge at the point you need to stop... Well, it's not pretty.
To be honest I'm not really convinced by any wireless technology. Charging these things and making sure battery health is good is way more of a pain in the butt than maintaining a physical system that needs very little tlc.
@@Playwholeday Only issue is none of those things affect safety in a fundamental way. Nice try though. If you want them you go for it.
No electronics at all for me, except the headlights
@@PlaywholedayGo try these brakes on black downhill track and we will see who has headache and spinal problems😂
I always wanted to build this for a handcycle. Would really be nice to eliminate all cables from the cranks, and you could always have a backup to hand on the frame.
I was sceptical at first, especially without the haptic feedback, but Blake showed what control levels he has with an amazing ride. As a disabled cyclist, this would be a great thing to explore due to my weak finger strength, but probably more on my motorbike than my mountain bike. I think that Blake could well be the next Mike Boroughs, both them have or had crazy ideas that eventually become common place. Great work Blake and GMBN.
Haptic feedback isn't something you would need. You don't get any feedback regular hydraulic brakes from the hydraulic fluid or cable housing, whatever you feel from the brakes is transmitted through the frame and fork so in that sense a electronically actuated hydraulic brake system would be no different.
You could build in a high resistance point on the trigger and have it adjustable, this would be like setting the bite point. Think like a cam plate where the tolerance for the trigger becomes tighter.
@@v8srock I get the idea but the resistance on the lever be a fixed aspect of the brakes and have the system adjust how much of that lever throw you need (force on the brakes) based on how fast you are going. All kinds of ways to do it with a fully electronic system.
it'll be funny when someone else's frequency matches yours and brakes for you 😄or when you have RF transmission issues
Just adds to the fun!
absolute nightmare
robbing biking out of its soul
This is unbelievably cool. If a sram/shimano or another brand don’t take you onboard I will be very surprised. This has got to be a worlds first for sure! Awesome work Blake!
We think it is! Would you buy some? How long do you think it will be before this is a production product?
@@gmbntech I do love my wireless stuff on my bikes. Brakes would definitely be something I’d have to get my head around and used to but definitely keen to try!
I think the reason wireless brakes haven't caught on yet is they simply can't not work. If gears stop working or there is a malfunction it's whatever & might work on the next shift. If brakes don't work you are knackered which could make the companies liable.
@@Rzarecteh if you cut line or tube completely on (regular) brakes it the same thing. So yes there are some things that make the odds that they completely fail much higher could you thru redundancy make them just as safe???
@@nomad-pq4yw8iy7vHow many times have you cut through your brake line? I’ve been riding disc brakes for 20+ years, it’s yet to happen to me. But if I was riding and the brakes failed because of a connectivity issue or the battery crapped out that’s a big problem. And I ain’t willing to test that.
I f**kin love Blake, he’s literally the coolest dude ever. Hes the type of guy you really just want to hang out with!
In my 38 years on this planet I have only grown more and more doubtful of trusting electronics. Especially wireless stuff. Just thinking about wireless braking in high consequence terrain is giving me PTSD 😅😅
It's okay, trees are pretty good at slowing us down... 😂🤕
Pre traumatic stress disorder?
@@lizlopez6784 haha exactly! 😄
Heck yeah I'd try it! And how awesome is it that Blake did it before any of the big name companies! Now begins the improvements and further innovation! Blake, patent as much as you can on it!
Exactly! Hope he makes money off of it...i' would be down to buy and try it
Absolutely incredible out of the box thinking Blake! I hope you are able to parlay this into some nice royalty checks for you and your family! Now its only a matter of time before we see wireless brake systems being the norm. Well done sir
Conceptually, a work of art. Well done man 👏🏻
I love this! Good job Blake, shadetree mechanics!
Just make them a subscription service also and it’s a home run
nice!
Subscription services are so cool. Imagine company ending support for your brakes so they stop working when you are on a black trail.
Stocking up on Magura MT5 now...
Absolutely brilliant!!!! Well done Blake.
Been waiting on this for TT for some time!
Brilliant can’t wait till it’s fully built and in the stores well done
Always thought about this being possible whilst out racing my RC, and you went ahead and did it! Fair play, nice work Blake! 👌 You can also get a little module used for when the RC car goes out of range it puts the servo to a predetermined position (Brake on), this could be another fail safe for if you drop signal/ handlebar battery dies/ battery falls out.. DM if you want to know more- also have CAD& 3D printers so I can help you out if you need to get anything made
Module is used in RC boats, when they lose signal, they turn and hopefully pick up the signal when the boat gets closer.
What do you know!!?? Eventually they will even make a bike that doesn't need to be peddled. Have to start out with assisted first. And then we will wire ourselves up so we can enjoy our virtual ride, scuba, space walk, s--,
BUT - I always enjoy you Blake - thank you for sharing your fun (and innovations) with us.
Motorbike?
@@54RKY
That is the natural results of adding on all these new fangled gadgets is an electrical motorbike, which is called an ebike by some.
Just give me the best/most practical mechanical/driven and energized completely by the rider, me! OH - I already have that in my Commencal & Neuron. LOL ;)
@@drmoynihan it was in response to "what next a bike you don't have to pedal"...... Sort of sarcasm
Subscribing to them is just a great thing. ThEir the first people who develop the wireless brakes while many big companies arent doing. You Rock!!!!
Great video guys. While I love the look the look of no cables/hoses I just couldn't ever be comfortable without brake hoses. ❤
Great video! Would love an uncut POV video of you riding with the wireless brakes.
Excellent job. Well done gmbn and Blake for doing this. Looking forward to the mk2 and trying it for myself. Got any plans yet?
We'll be working on it as soon as we can pluck up the courage 😅
Love this Blake, love the evolution you did, using off the shelf bits. Heath Robinson, but brilliant! 🔋
Blake... Your amazing and you made one of first steps👌
was tried years ago
Amazing Blake ❗️You are the best 🏆
Absolutely amazing! You beat me to it Blake! Good on you!
🏎️💨
Nice work mr Samson 👊🏾
The world needs more Blake Builds content 👍🏾
Oh and, a video of Mr Ashton controling your brakes on a black diamond trail would be top content 🤣
Yaaay🎉 bikes are now 20k!
BEC is to increase the voltage from the receiver to power a high powered servo. RC car guy here
This is pure genius. I am now going to build similar for my Cessna. I will let you know how it went once I’ve landed.
I'm surprised we have wireless brakes already! Great job Blake it is inspiring that you have turned out such a great start to the next big thing in mountain biking. I cannot believe I just watched that on GMBN today!! Bravo mate
Calm down
@@dystopiaisutopia I'm unsure of why you remark to "calm down" about something I think is exciting. Please elaborate on your suggestion, why should I calm down?
@@RayHarmonBecause it's a stupid thing they made for views.
@@dystopiaisutopia I don't agree with your view on the ingenuity of this design.
It was tried years ago@@RayHarmon
In the future you can solve the lever feel , being linear, by using progressive spring rates and decreasing mechanical advantage levers. AWESOME JOB BLAKE!!!!!!!
Great! Finally a step into the future. Big compliment for this first implementation. All the electronics will soon be in the handlebars along with a battery for the front. Instead of servos, hydraulic pumps may be integrated into the brake calipers. Fantastic!
by each passing second we step into the future, what are you even trying to say?
Something NO ONE NEEDS OR WANTED.
Blake you GENIUS!!!!!!
This has to be the most JANK bike mod I've seen in ages. I absolutely love everything about it.
Technicaly they are hydraulic brakes with additional crap and you gonna struggle to make that additinal crap smaller. I have hard time believing, that anyone would preffer bulky calipers over two hoses. While I was wrong plenty of times in the past, most probably wireless brakes would have to have some advantage over hydraulics to caught on. For that you'd need to outengineer that hydraulic calipers, which honestly I don't think can be done with current tech.
Hydraulics:
+ work without batteries
+ don't need to be paired
+ self adjust for pad wear
- hoses
Your wireless construction (even after refinment, if the priciple ramain the same):
+ no hoses
- always heavier that equivalent hosed version
- additional failure points
Awesome, I see this coming soon 🙌🙌🙌🚲🚲🚲💪💪💪💪💪
Blake the mad scientist at it again! Loved this vid!
Brilliant, Blake!
Incredible 💯all you need now is to come up with the look. Some kind of casing and maybe signature decal, be awesome 👍🏼
Such a great innovation❤
Blake is a gem!
Blake is on the fire! 🤓 What a project.
Amazing work!!
I was wondering.. maybe if you add a bushing of sorts behind the brake lever (similar to skateboard bushings), that could add the needed resistance to make the lever feel like hydraulic brakes. This might give the soul you're looking for.
Again, great work! Can't wait to see where this goes.
Nice work
This has been bouncing around my head for years. Flying/driving RC, riding MTB but never put the two together. Well done Blake, stick with it mate.
High end transmitter (TX) with dual rates, exponential and end points. Different braking "modes" for different trail types could be setup, expo S curves for sensitivity/modulation and back/front bias, adjustable bite point, fail safe settings in the event of signal loss or low voltage ... TX programming will blow your mind.
Low latency wifi servos (no servo wires required to RX) with control arms (titanium turnbuckles from helis or cars) on ball links instead of cable, short servo arms for maximum mechanical advantage ... Blake's E-Brake Mk2 could shine.
Add proggressive springs to levers to get that feedback feel.
For proper 'failsafe' brakes like a Lorry or train, you need brakes that are held fully on and the mechanism pulls them off when its powered up. Pulling the lever then shuts the mechanism off and allows the spring to put on the brakes. That way if the battery mechanism fails the brakes come on.
Deadman brakes
Genius/Crazy Idea Blake!!!
Impressive, Blake. Even more so considering you are not an electronics expert.
It's good to see there is a fail safe for the power loss point of failure. The ongoing issue will be addressing all the other potential points of failure and coming up with solutions for them.
V2 on the way when we can get the nerves to do it!
Yes i would give it a go. Its pretty cool!
Wow, honestly impressed
I think this is possible if the safety feature is installed like breaks will auto lock if running out of battery.
that's some fun garage work :)
Nice Blake. Good on ya!
Really, really cool stuff.
That is awesome!!!
It's a cool thought, and plenty of room for improvement (first thing I'd do would be alloy leavers and make the cockpit a bit more compact). I'm just not sure I'd want to hit some of the bigger trails without the feedback.
You can get force feedback (look at driving simulators as an example) but I don't know if you can get it to be compact enough
you are a genius Blake !!!!!!!
You'd want some sort of loadcell setup on the lever like you have with higher end sim racing brake pedals. Otherwise, it's way too difficult to modulate pressure.
FINALLY BLAKE IS BACK!! Now I watch 👀!!
Best vid I've ever seen about bikes. With an ebike, you could connect directly to the internal battery. Just a thought.
I don’t care what anybody says, Blake is a genius. I hope TRP, SRAM, and Shimano gets in touch with Blake and gives him some backing and recognition. No joke
I love the simplicity of cables.
That's too awesome!
Too scary … but, completely love Blake’s brilliant idea 🤣👍🏼
Absolutely brilliant! All this time I thought wireless breaks already existed.
Hey Blake, what about a load cell for modulation like on sim racing pedals? It might be called a micro load cell sensor? Great job Blake.!
Interesting, will have to look into it! 🤔
Fawk that.
Cable shifting, hydro brakes.
Thank you!😉💚
Blake genius!!! Love the story!!
Blake becomes officially Mr. Q for GMBN 😉
Nice video
Can we get steer by wire soon?
Also wireless suspension tuning.
Have all the things a Corvette c8 has.
Insane build Blake 😂🤘
Would I try it 🤔 yes ,I like your fail safe system that you accidentally found Blake 👊
No fail safe no riding fit me 😂
I believe this is something that SRAM, Shimano and TRP are probably developing
It's just getting over the thought of wireless brakes 🤯
Great stuff #GMBNTech
If the battery dies the rider also dies!
Very impressive. I love the British can-do attitude.
What a fun project! Love the ingenuity Blake. Does this make you the Mark Rober of mtb?
I believe the penny-farthing was the first wireless bike, but it is always fun to see Blake build stuff.
"Hacks and Bodges! Hacks and Bodges, Hacks and Bodges!" - Blake wins the Race Top this week!
Man you have a great brain. I think you need to put these under patent because after these video the industry will start really work on it - if they don't until now. Good job
HAHA! Blake you crazy, positive, energized mad man! Make sure its cloud based, so the signals has to be uploaded to the cloud from the levers, and then downloaded from the cloud to the calipers! That would make this very exiting!
so cable fade overtime ! but what become with battery with time? and cold? you do your best!you do your bossiness you sell us stuff and ideas of the industry! ty....
I’m excited by the idea and the challenge of making this work . Wish I had a 3D printer
There are some radios that are able to do ABS like control on RC cars. there also dual rate so control modulation and progressiveness. V2 is around the corner.
Pretty cool, for the soulless levers, perhaps you might want to consider the tech and processing brain in a PC/Console gaming steering wheel and pedal set up for a racing sim, the actuators there communicate resistance simulating the hydraulic feel, might boost the cost to produce, but would certainly give a little soul to those levers, there may be off the shelf parts available somewhere for other products, I don't know, the idea just came to mind as I was listening to you guys. :) Winning!!!
You should put some kind of damper on the lever so it has more resistance when you pull it
It’s a fun experiment! anyone who feels 100% confident with this idea is either insane or from bmx 😂😂 The tactile sensation of brake feel is a huge and expected. Adding that to an e system adds complexity and it comes as standard with traditional analog systems.
Keren keren... tanpa kabel rem akan terlihat lebih rapih di body sepeda.congratulation about your experiment make something different in the future.Thank u GMBN . bravo from Indonesia ❤❤❤❤
Pack my raspberry pi and the SDR and jam some bikes,cause jamming drones was so mutch fun;)❤
Excellent ingenuity. As a further development thought, you could even record braking inputs, which could be uploaded to Garmin connect through an edge computer or smart watch. I imagine as a training tool for Downhill racers it could have some value.
I reckon BLE or ANT+ signaling would be more reliable and secure, but what you’ve done is an amazing way to use available of the shelf kit.
Next step would be to see if Garmin/Shimano/SRAM would be interested in supporting refining the idea. Though I reckon fly by wire brakes might not be easy to get to market for fitment to a bike that would be used on the road or in public areas.
BrakeAce can already add that type of (and even more - brake temp, etc) data collection to standard brakes!
Awseome cool good luck i hop its works🤙🤙
Have a redundancy power as well. If the power fails then you have a backup as an added safety feature.
Awesome!
Like Cell phones when they 1st came out had no dial tone, and had to be added so people could relate to the new tech, the levers could have a spring, or something similar, that increases resistance as you pull on the lever to simulate the feel of modulating the breaks.
Are those skinny chains must be rated for especially for ebikes? I used a fat 8 speed chain and that still snapped
Brilliant, just brilliant! Pandora's box just opened! For road bikes, add a brake like for commuting and road safety.
Would probably be possible to hook up a hydrualic brake lever to a pressure sensor that would control the force being put to the rear brake. Really cool project!
I want my MTB fully analogic. I would NEVER trust my brakes to be wireless.
Maybe wireless for the rear brake but not the front cause the distance is pretty short so that's unnecessary. also，that leave a leave redundancy for safety.
@@Soras_ then you have to deal with wires 😅
@@Flexo_lyou can do barspins though 🤷♂️
@@Flexo_l It's still much compact if the front is all you need deal with. I am not confident to all e-brake.