So click that subscribe button! Has this fuel issue happened to you with your classic…? Or even a modern, say a van that needs the door open to access the flap…?
This is not just BP. The rules for dispensing fuel are published and quite detailed. The BP staff did as the rules state. Granted, some rules seem trivial/excessive in today's world. Another, that if applied, winds people up is for motorcyclists. When refuelling you must not be sitting on the bike. Rationale when this rule was made was perhaps that if you spill fuel over the sides of your tank it will ignite on the hot engine resulting in you toasting your bits before you get off the bike. Now, imagine you have an off road bike and no stand. Gets a bit awkward trying to put fuel in whilst holding your bike up if you cannot sit on it. There are many, many seemingly silly rules that all fuel dispensing staff should have been taught. Most fuel places seem to only apply the rules they want and don't fully follow those that are published.
This is the same company that tells you on a sign next to the pump to switch your phone off, next to a sign that tells you to “Pay by Phone”. You can’t make this shit up. 🤪
it would be interesting to go into the office and say that you are trying to pay by phone but the call isn't going through because the phone is turned off, do they authorise you to leave site before paying so you can get to an off site area where phones ARE allowed so you can pay by phone.
Just buy a fuel can, then stand there hogging the pump whilst you keep filling it, paying, tipping it into your tank and repeat! They'll soon get fucking bored of that! 😆
Once the fuel has started to flow, then open the bootlid and continue filling up as normal, unless they are watching you, I doubt that they will kill the pump!
@@jonathanellis1842 Now I have learned something. I had never heard of "jobworth". According to Wikipedia: A jobsworth is a person who uses the authority of their job in a deliberately uncooperative way, or who seemingly delights in acting in an obstructive or unhelpful manner. It characterises one who upholds petty rules even at the expense of effectiveness or efficiency. I've encountered those type of people and didn't know they had a name for that behavior.
Besides being a pain to do, I would not want to have to carry around fuel can that could leak or emit fuel vapors in my car. I really dislike the few times I need to fill fuel cans for the snowblower or generator.
The original saying of "The customer is always right" was in reference to the market, as in what is popular and gets bought. Its been twisted to mean "the customer is always right" at face value. So technically, if enough people complain about this issue or boycott/shop elsewhere, the customer would be always right. Its kinda like how "Jack of All Trades; Master of None" got twisted to mean its better to be specialized in one thing, when the original quote is "Jack of All Trades; Master of None, though oftentimes better than a Master of One."
@@vietnamrebel wait till you learn "blood is thicker than water" is EXACTLY the opposite. its actually "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.” so literally chosen allegiance is stronger than a dumb blood bond.
@hyndscs Yeah, what determines taste? Popular opinion. My phrasing is a bit different but its essentially the same. If people don't like your product, no matter how good it is, it doesn't matter if people won't buy it. That would include boycotts, cause it'd be distasteful to buy from a bad company
This ban is all due to some accidents at these service stations. One of BP's service stations burnt down with a fuel tanker in Melbourne Australia a few years back, where a lady was filling up an illegal container in the boot of the car. The static electricity ignited the vapours, and the whole service station went up, with the Fuel tanker at this site. Clean up bill cost millions. That's why this has been brought in. Last few years there has been at least 6 Service stations that have gone up due to the negligents of motorists. I do feel your pain, most of us suffer for others stupid ignorance at these sites, even with all the warning signs at the pumps.
The lady should never have filled an illegal container . A safety regulation already existed to prevent accidental fire . But it can still happen with legal a container if panic ensues and it gets spilled following a fume ignition flash . Also the static electricity danger regions are known about like in Calgary Alberta where you get zapped touching doors .
@@Philip-hv2kc Yes but many people do things they shouldn't at the bowsers. Also many service stations also do not take hazards seriously, yes static is the biggest danger at the service station, and at fuel tanks. That's why these policies get put into place sadly.
I live here, I got to see the oil first hand and its effects. But it was not BPs fault, never was. It really wasn't the drillers fault either. No one could have expected the gas pocket that caused the blowout. Those things are going to happen in a modern energy using world. We can always go back to the caves I guess.
@@Dannysoutherner And yet, Schlumberger pulled out the day before as they considered the operation as unsafe... Encountering a gas pocket should've been managed safely, it may have been an unexpected circumstance but encountering gas pockets is to be expected when drilling for oil so it's not an excuse for the disaster. There's plenty to say that it was BP's work culture that was at fault...
I read the reports at the time. No one had ever encountered this type of pressure before. BP held the lease but another company did the exploration drilling that went bad. I don't work for BP but I still don't see how they caused it. Then, like now, we have an energy hating president who would like nothing but to take cars away from the public. What better way than to shut down oil drilling?
As my late father used to say - and he died in 1979 - “Common sense is a commodity In extremely short supply.” That gains more and more credence by the minute.
Excellent point. Apparently it's not confined to Earth as I recall a quote like "The total amount of intelligence in the galaxy is constant, but the population is increasing".
@user-js4vx3by8i > As my late father used to say - and he died in 1979 - “Common sense is a commodity > In extremely short supply.” That gains more and more credence by the minute. One saying I heard once was "Common sense is like a superpower round here".
@@anonnona8099 I bought our office manager a coffee cup emblazoned with "Common Sense is a curse because those who have it are forced to deal with those who don't".
Used to work in a petrol station, we only had to check 3 things - not smoking, not using mobile phones & if using a fuel can that it didn’t look dodgy 🤣
How do they (the clients) pay if they can't use their phones? Seriously, I know quite a few people who don't carry bank cards anymore. It's always pay by phone.
Geoff, here's what you ought to do (it would make a funny video). 1- Go to BP fill a plastic petrol can. 2- Go in and pay. 3 Return to car, open boot and fill from the can. 4- Close the boot. 5 Return to step 1 and repeat until your car is full. I would pay money to see you do that😂.
@@ridbanner1407 yes it would be but it is also complying with their stupid policy while taking up a spot at the pump no one else can use while you are parked there
70% of DeLoreans have the filler under the front-boot. The first 2700 that were made had a fuel door on the front-boot/front-trunk cover. The remaining 6275 cars had a solid boot/frunk panel and cannot be fueled without opening the cargo area.
This is Bongland. Common Sense is banned. Common is a discriminatory word and using it is a micro-aggression. Sense discriminates against those who are differently abled and may do things that appear to have no logical connection to the situation at hand. Pointing out such inconsistencies in someone's actions or behaviour may be an offence under the Hurt Feelings Act of 2020. The police will deal with offenders most severely, whilst ignoring trivial crimes, such as underprivileged gangs of Scrotus Vulgaris helping themselves to your pride and joy. Evening_All.gif
When I worked for Wolverhampton Council it was very obvious that those people "with qualifications" but no sense common or otherwise we're never dismissed they were promoted sideways and up. The result "dickheads" at the top!
Hardly, as Geoff the chav himself admits he would pumping fuel right next to a fully exposed hot engine. The past is a different country and they did things differently there.
It's always BP though. I was at BP station once and the tannoy demanded I take my helmet off at the pump. I wandered in and said "What?" and got told it was company policy that all motorcyclists have to remove their helmet at the pump. I was not in the mood for the aggressive manner this was delivered in either so I asked how far the next garage was and the response was a scoffing noise and "Oh, 20 miles up the road!". He got sworn at and called a liar at this point cos I knew damn well there was another one about a mile further on. 1st and only time I've been asked to remove a piece of safety equipment on a garage forecourt in 35 years of riding. The second time was a BP at a motorway services who demanded I get off the bike to fill it up (you can't completely fill a motorcycle fuel tank unless it's upright, makes may be 20 miles of range worth of difference). I tried explaining this to the bird behind the counter but nope. Utterly ridiculous. And don't forget, BP is the company that drilled a massive hole in a Mexican oil field and released Cthulhu. B*stards.
In South Africa the idiots are shell. There is a sign saying you must get off your motorcycle and not use a cell phone, then they bring you a cell phone so you can authorise payment.
Actually, you will find it IS required for you to get off your bike and place it on a secure stand for fuelling . It was standard at our company (NOT BP) . We had to do CPL courses and in the HSE section it was forbidden to authorise a pump while the rider is astride the machine OR not securely on a stand. Most pumps or canopy pillars will display the do's and dont's and it is clearly there . Sure enough , one busy afternoon many vans and cars on the forecourt where the pumps closest to the road are obscured at the best of times gets authorised and a biker slipped , bike went over and he got momentarily pinned under his bike with fuel glugging all over him ...hot motorcycle too .....(you see the problem?) we had to get the spill kit out all because he was too lazy to put it on the stand . In the mean time , the WHOLE forecourt HAS to be shut down until the spill was dried up and disposed of. Which means cones at the entrance and exit to prevent people coming in . Thus lost business .The person that authorised the pump got a reprimand from the manager . Im a biker myself and the amount of times I have had irate brothers coming in complaining about not being able to FILL their tanks right to the brim if its on the stand.. I dont think I have EVER filled to the brim on any of my bikes since adulthood .
@@gpo746 In 35 years of riding I've been ordered to get off the bike once, therefore, I put it to you that concern for a bikers safety isn't shared by many who don't secretly want "Respec mah authoritaaaar" to be their family motto.
Come over here to Cyprus! Garage attendants (most of them friendly and polite) are filling up your car, at no extra cost. And the petrol is cheaper here. (Only when the garage is closed, you have to fill it up yourself. Terminals then control the payment as well as the opening and closing of the pumps. And so far these terminals don't check where the filler is and whether doors are open...)
Wait a minute! The pump has to be authorised? That is literally unheard of in Germany. You go to the fuel station, pick a pump and just like that the refueling process starts and you pay afterwards. No extra authorisation is needed.
Not just a classic car problem. I had a 1995 Mitsubishi Express. The filler was inside the passenger door. So you had to open the door to get to to it. Reason for the design was no locks required. So some vans will also not be allowed to fill. My sister-in-law has a VW Beetle and you have to open the bonnet to fill that.
On some older American cars the fuel cap is under the rear license plate or one of the tail lights I wonder if that would be allowed? Which you probably wouldn't be driving one of those there they wouldn't fit on a lot of roads lol
@@redtra236In the 70's & 80's having the filler cap behind the back plate was quite common. It actually makes sense since you can fill up at any side of the pump. My 87 Fairmont was like that. When I got my 89 Orion it was on the side and it was a pain. My neighbours Humber had it behind the left reflector in the break-light cluster.
My eldest daughter used to work at a petrol station at weekends when she was at Uni. Ive just asked her about this. She says they're supposed to come out to check. Once they've seen its not going into a bucket or some other dodgy receptical they should authorise the pump. My guess is they couldn't be arsed to come out to look. My advice is contact someone like Practical Classic magazine
I had a BMW F650 Scarver as a loan bike while my regular bike was in for an extended service, instead of a filler on the fuel tank it has the fuel filler on the right side seat fairing (actual fuel tank is under the seat and what is normally a motorcycle tank is a dummy tank used as a storage area) - had some issues with a service station near me when I went to fill it, had to wheel the bike round to the window to show the staff that, indeed, where I was putting the fuel nozzle was, in fact, the fuel filler... oh yeh and that was a BP station too This was the same station that insisted I "put my bike on the centre stand" ... on a bike that didn't have one (admittedly that bike did lean alarmingly on the side stand)
I was once driving a modified car that had a front bumper with no number plate support, so I had to keep the plate inside in the dashboard, which by local rules is perfectly fine and legal. When I went to fill at a station, they refused to authorize the pump because "I had no plate so I coudl fill up and leave". Also funny enough they made a big deal, beeing mean and stuff just because it was rush hour and there were a lot of customers. I went back to the car, turn around while beeing inside the gas station and drove backwards, because at the rear bumper I did had the number plate attached. After that they had no other choice to open the pump and let me fill it. Loved how mad they were when i went inside to pay!
Boycott BP mainly because they are most expensive. I personally can't see the issue their policy. Fill up with petrol over a hot engine, what could possibly go wrong. This is most likely down to insurance or similar. Can't see the drama personally.
@@sduk451 Oh dear. If you cannot see the problem with that policy you are clearly happy yo be acused of being a fuel thief without any evidence. How odd ! (Heat from an engine will not ignite fuel ... just as mobiles phones will not either) !
It's not BP though, it's the half wit on the till. Obviously the intention is if you're filling up a car that doesn't have the filler in the boot. Stupid people work at petrol stations.
I love how this guy prefaced the video by saying "if I came across as quite rude", so I was expecting some fireworks, and this guy was by American standards very reasoned, rational, and as the Brit's might say "jolly".
I think Geoff is of the view that as an Englishman if you don't start the conversation with "I'm terribly sorry to bother you, but would you mind awfully..." then you are but one step from unbridled chaos.
Oh, yeah! If that had happened here in the US, especially in a big city, things wouldn't have ended with smiles and well-wishes! And I'm understating it. It's good to see that people in the UK are still as friendly and good-natured as they were in the 80's and 90's when I was there last.
Unless you spray the hot engine with plenty of fuel, nothing will happen. The 2 drops that might fall will evaporate almost instantly, with too little gas to pose any risk. The R8 and R10 were safe. If there had been any problems when these cars went out, this area would have been closed off.
I only go to BP (unless traveling and one is not available), and after I start filling, I go open the hood to check the oil. I've never been told to close it while filling up.
Here in Australia, you only go to a BP if there is no alternative, as they are on average, 25-30c a litre more expensive than everyone else. Mostly fleet and company vehicles use them as they are locked in on a contract.
I agree that BP is usually the most expensive, but you can find cheaper BPs if you use a petrol price app. I have a lease car that has a BP card with it and I can also earn Qantas FF points - so I'll use BP when it's priced right.
I’m in Sydney. Metro, Payless, Budget and a bunch of other no name _servos_ are usually 10-20c cheaper than any of the usual suspects. Shop independent. Woolies and coles / Wesfarmers get too much of our money anyway The road to hell is paved with convenience
But surely that means that no car can fill up in a BP as we now have little doors that hide the petrol filler that we have to open and keep open in order to fill the car with fuel??
No this issue is about BP dictating that you have to close all parts of your vehicle whilst filling your car. What they are really saying is none of us can be trusted
Ford has a Transit van over here in the United States that the driver's door has to be left open to be able to access the fuel, my co-worker showed me and you have to open a panel basically inside the door jamb.... I just stood there and shook my head. You can probably shut the door while filling but then you can't close the fuel filler panel without reopening the door first.
Ford/Renault/Citroen/Peugeot/Opel have vans made on the same platform. Fuel door flap is designed in a way so you have to open the door, open the fuel flap, pump the petrol then open the doors to close the fuel flap. It's harder to break in and this kind of design eliminates the need for yet another lock.
@@nts_nathaniel Mercedes-Benz Vitos same thing. The newer Opel/Toyota/Citroen/Nissan ones don't, at least the smaller Vivaro, etc. Fiat Talentos and Ducatos have the flaps too.
Yeah but you can close the door while you're filling. The post office has some amount of Mercedes Benz metris vans in the fleet and they are the same way. But these people who are "just following the policy" are part of the problem. It is just idiotic to refuse sale because of that.
I just saw a video from Hayburner TV and they were able to fill up their VW Beetle at BP (in response to this supposed ban). This means that it is probably an individual decision of this petrol station, but not a decision of the entire company.
Since any salesman can write a note one time I said that I would only accept either a published document (which meant Legal had approved it) or a letter on Company letterhead signed by an Officer of the company (who would not have risked Rhee job signing off on a lie). The salesman went away.
Get them every time these woke retards think their policy is above law and it sends them in a right tizzy when their told it is as as relevant and useful to me as used toilet roll it only applies to you. If they push it I generally say 50k a year as a contractor and up front then I will listen and observe your policy if not shut up I don't want to hear it anymore.
I rather doubt these hassled shop workers have conspired to implement such a devious policy,asking for written confirmation from them seems puril go to the big cheeses ,follow the money ,I bet you'll find H.R or green policies at the root of the matter!
Do you really believe that _every_ employee, at _every_ company, is obliged to produce *written legal evidence* for _every_ policy that _every_ Karen wants to see, _every_ time? 🤦♂
@@maxhugen I only did that twice. Both times when I knew that the salesman was lying to me, and that I was the one who was going to get in trouble at work if I believed their bs.
in sweden no problem, w e have classic cars from all around the world here, even cars where the standard fuel filler position is underneath the hood/bonnet or trunk
This is so alien to me. Belgium, most pumps are fully automated, put in your card, the pump starts, put the nozzle in, click the "keep pumping until it's full" catch on, walk off and sit in your car for a minute. If the catch is broken, jam your tank cap in the trigger to keep it on. It still can't overflow. Technical difference aside, the lack of common sense here is scary.
You've managed to avoid the health and safety brigade over there for a bit then. Trust me they'll come, plus the CCTV and other checks to make sure you are not stealing the fuel.
Here in the UK it's automated as well, but the staff can disable pumps. Mostly it's supposed to be about preventing a recognised pump and dash criminal from using the pumps but also for health and safety if they see underaged people trying to operate the pumps or someone filling up unsafe containers. I remember there was a guy in Texas that was pumping fuel into wheelie bins carried in the back of his pickup truck.
@@scrambler69-xk3kv Use chip or RFID cards instead, then they can't skim as they are encrypted. If there is combined magnetic and chip card readers, there could be a skimmer on the magnetic portion, but theres a solution: Take a neodymium magnet, and swipe it along the magnetic strip on your credit card. It will erase the magnetic strip, so the skimmer can't read it. Then you pay by the pump but using chip or RFID instead. Can't be skimmed. Its much better to pay by the pump as they can't hog the prices. Some untrustworthy gas stations have a price on the sign and pump, but then say "ooh we set the price wrong" and then forces you to pay a higher price. By paying by the pump, they can't ask for a higher price unless the price is "obviously wrong", then they can post-charge the card. But such post charges can not be done so often either, so if a gas station tries to cheat the system they lose the ability to post-charge. Then the card aquirer will say, you have to be more careful when setting prices, now you have to swallow the loss for the incorrect pricing. So its MUCH safer to pay at the pump, because then you pay as advertised, not what the clerk decides at the point of pay. Thats the risky thing with paying AFTER you have consumed the goods, they can just claim "ooh the prices on the sign is wrong". Thats why you always pre-pay, if they ask for a unreasonable price, you can always abort the transaction. Hard to abort the transaction if you already filled up and theres disagreement about the price.
I had a 1968 Renault 10 in 1971, which was before self-service was legal in my state (Illinois). I'd have to get out and open the trunk for the puzzled attendant. But the best thing about the Renault 10 was that you could start it with a crank! I had to do that many times until I replaced the battery. Another feature was the front seats could slide all the way forward and then fold back to turn the entire interior into a flat mattress. All this plus 35 mpg! The only bad thing was that it was hard to get parts. Still, I wouldn't mind having it now.
Another feature in the Renault 10 is that the locks are impossible to pick! A lesson I learned the hard way on a snowy winters evening, engine running (for cabin heat) went out to get snow off the windscreen and the door closed softly after a few seconds, took the recovery guy 20 attempts and about an hour to get the door opened, after first telling me that this was his final attempt before smashing the side window 😂 Now my house key and car key are always separated 😎 One more feature is the radiators expansion tank is a big jamjar made from very thick glass, when that goes boom, it sounds like being hit by a big artillery shell, and clean underwear is needed! (Never ever try to make it pull a caravan half way through Europe!!) 😮🤣
@@sgtommyc Pickproof locks might be a good selling point - Except I don't think anyone ever wanted to steal it! I ended up buying another two Renaults - Model 5 "LeCar" - and the radiator expansion bottle was thick plastic. I still have one on the basement. (Why, I don't know.) But what I remember about the radiator was that there was no drain on the bottom - as if they never intended you to change the antifreeze! They were fun to drive, though. And good in snow.
@@ROGER2095 The 5 was way better than any of its predecessors! The 8 and 10 was rivals to Fiats 500 and 600, and the 4 was Renaults answer to Citroens 2CV, while the 5 was a run at VW's Polo 😊Here in Europe they were all great cars for their time, they would haul a family of 4 to anywhere on the continent and serve as traffic friendly commuter cars outside the holidays, and they didn't break your bank account 😎 The cars you'd consider cheap back then (over there) were as expensive as Jag E-type over here 😮
@@sgtommyc Other than getting it repaired, I was very happy with my two Renault 5s! Quick, easy to drive, easy to park, roomier than you'd think, high gas mileage, good in snow, and one of them had a giant sunroof, which I really enjoyed, especially when driving in the mountains. If they were still in business in America, I'd gladly get another one.
Looks like BP's think tank is catching up with the stupidity of governments. Although the positioning of the filler neck,over a hot engine,is a pretty stupid design.
Apparently it was quite common in older cars to have the filler pipe in the same area as the engine. Potentially dangerous, yes. But I bet people were more careful not to spill when filling back then too! haha
@@soundseeker63 I have had petrol boiling on an exhaust manifold before. But not a good idea if you spill some over the plugs and then start up without a good contact.
I had a pull by a copper for "having a unroadworthy car" ...Why unroadworthy? Because it was smoking and for me "revving " my engine I replied "of course it does, its a Trabant !" I had to educate the copper and tell him it was a Two stroke , still looking baffled he said " So , what " I replied... You ADD oil to the petrol .... thus it smokes and being a 2 stroke it revs freely and highly . I had to educate him further by popping the bonnet and showing him the fuel tank.. RIGHT ABOVE THE ENGINE. The fuel gauge was a plastic dipstick , I opened the filler neck and dipped it , he smelt it and jumped back when he realised it WAS petrol in there . He didn't want to know after that , told me to get on my way .. Had an issue at one petrol station where I was refused and I used the plastic jerry can from the boot to fill it up , made a farce out of them as when I paid I kept doing it in 2 liter lots just to piss them off , going back and forth to pay . The silly old bag serving said "why don't you FILL the petrol can ? " My reply, "why don't you just let me fill my tank "? . Funny, because next time I went there she never said boo to me and just let me crack on and fill up my tank .
Positioning a filler neck over a hot engine? What, you mean like most motorcycles? It’s not that rare. Even my chainsaw has its filler above a hot engine
I worked in a place that had a lady transport busybody 🙄 checking lights etc, she said no vehicles would leave the yard without lights and a mechanic would come once a month to sort anything..... we use to change our own bulbs and told her this and her response was "we weren't qualified to do that 😂 She didn't last long there😊👍🇮🇪
Pretty much everywhere in the United States you just pay either the cashier or the pump itself with a credit card and pump your own gas. So long as you aren’t just spilling fuel on the ground you are left alone
I'm 71 years old and have to show my ID at the store to buy beer. In this wonderful (sarcasm) new world we live in where CCTV cameras are dirt cheap, and internet bandwidth is abundant, most big companies have cameras everywhere and monitor the goings on at a store any time they want. As such, employees are faced with the prospect of minimum wage (or overseas contract) corporate drones watching over their shoulder and reporting them for breaking the "rules" despite the fact that they have zero context on the situations they are observing. They are just protecting their jobs (or the jobs of the store manager) from the upstream Karens.
It happened to me once in a shopping centre, a young sale's promotion girl asked me if I was over 18 , I said no and walked away laughing my head off I thought it was really funny I'm 65 haha.
You're lucky. I'm in my mid 30s and still have at least another 4 decades of this madness to go. This is why I'll never quit smoking, what's the point lol.
Im a tree surgeon. I won't use BP, they refused to authorise the pump to fill our Jerry cans whilst in the back of a landy. So I removed the cans and they still wouldn't authorise the pump due to filling jerry cans 😅
BP and all petroleum petro dollar and world governments are obviously owned by the same family but i still havent been to Bp in years has it really gotten that bad what an odd thing maybe theyre going to turn into ev stations or something
Perhaps in some states, in most states in the US you pay for at the pump, pump your own gas and nobody gives flying crap... you can even pump gas at stores after hours at many locations with nothing but a security camera probably on you.
I stopped going to o e place for fuel that was suppose to give a 4 cent per gallon discount when paying cash cause all their new cashier's kept forgetting, and also cause I hated waiting over 5 minutes for them then to correctly authorize the pump. . just saying. It's the little things that make or break a business
Ha, funny story, when I was young I bought a brand new DeLorean, on the way home I stopped by the gas station here in America and I could not find the fuel filter door, I walked around the car, I could not find a fuel door anywhere, I just walked around the car pulling on everything until I finally gave up and pulled out the owners manual from the glove box, it turns out that the fuel filler is inside the trunk up front because the engine is in the back. I still own the DeLorean to this day but I do have to open the front trunk to fill the car with fuel.
During a track weekend one of my Alfasud's two dual Dellortos developed a leak and sprayed petrol around the exhaust manifold (boxer engine so the exhaust manifold is under each bank). We'll, I didn't catch fire, I smelled the petrol, hurried back to the pits, opened the hood and was terrified. It's a good thing my mechanic was at the event himself and he sealed the leak on the spot. 😅
To fill my ex army 1970 Land Rover its necessary to take out both front seat cushions (its twin tanks), lift out two metal covers, take out and pull up the tank filters then fill each tank. Its a right faff so I tend to brim it. Filling means having both front doors open and reaching in with the hoses. The trick is to pick filling stations with disinterested teenagers who are on their phone the whole time, they never look out the window😀
Maybe contact BP head office for a comment, this is a chance for the to rethink their guidance. Either that or go back and tell the it's not a boot it's a fuel flap.
it is fuel flap, the boot is guess rear engine car the boot in the front of car. flap is part body work to protect from theft as behind the flap most cars do not have lockable fuel cap unless they have no fuel flap and cap on out side. so in theory the engine cover is a fuel flap. id go back at a busy time and fill a fuel can up and then when got fuel you wanted put in to car before you move, guess what doing that way far more dangerous than just using the pump so that get the message across @@_Why_123
@@_Why_123 You mean Jim Ratcliffe , CEO of INEOS , who own BP and classic car and Land Rover enthusiast - he bought and restored Land Rover No.1 ( oldest land Rover in the world ) , before rallying it across the Sahara Desert ! He probably does not put up with nonsense .
Had similar issues here in Aus in the past. Same deal. The other one I've had was "Sir you cannot have a numberplate that flips up, screw it back down then we will authorise the pump the police have also been called". Wanted so badly to just disappear, peak hour cars honking etc. Final one I had, driving stupid remote through the outback single servo (fuel/gas station) town. Go to fill up my landcruiser with diesel because won't make it to the next town otherwise. Keep getting denied over PA. Go inside she says she is doing my a favour as I need petrol (gasoline) I state I've got a diesel. Nope. Take a picture of my fuel door, engine and bring up Wikipedia on my vehicle. Nope. Had to drive up the road and wait until the next day for someone else was working. Tried a few times throughout the day before they closed but no luck she was on from 11am to around 6pm when they closed.
Damn, that is a shame. BP and Texaco, as far as I've been able to ascertain, are the only UK suppliers of super unleaded that actually has no ethanol in it, even though 5% is stated on the pumps.
Had the same at a Shell station with my TVR. Explained very politely that the fuel tank is in the boot and they let me fuel up then. A friend has just waved a jerry can in the general direction of the counter and has the pump turned on with the boot open. Guess they didn't wonder why a 5 litre container took over 40!
See my comment elsewhere - I have been refused fuel when trying to fill a metal can because they only allowed 'cans that were made to take petrol'. Despite the fact that my can had 'PETROLEUM SPIRIT - HIGHLY INFLAMMABLE' stamped on it and had been made specifically to carry petrol (OK, in 1937 🙂), as far as they were concerned the fact that it was made of metal disqualified it from being used for that purpose. As most jerrycans are made of metal I am surprised they allowed it!
It's odd because BP in Australia do not have that rule. I often get 40-50 litres in 10l containers, plus fill my car, and every time I get the 4-5 containers out, leave the boot open, fill the containers then the car, and place the containers in the boot, and go pay. Never ever had an issue with BP, 7/eleven, Shell, or Caltex here in Australia
Sounds like they don't GAF. I think you are meant to fill the containers on the ground(?). I can't recall exactly. Something to do with earthing. Most fires at petrol stations are caused by static electric build up, then the person touches the car by the fuel filler and gets a spark.
Don't feel so bad. I rarely ever use BP in the USA unless I can get a discount using one of my two apps on my phone. You can have 5 or 6 gas stations withing a few miles of each other and you will see that BP has the highest prices per gallon out of all of them.
Had the same problem at Esso a few years ago with my military lightweight Landrover where the fuel filler is under the drivers seat. The attendant came over to inspect then used common sense. I was going to poke the hose through the window if all else failed. You just need to laugh at it all.
I have not bought fuel at a bp since 2003! Every station you go to the diesel pump is green, but not at BP! Green at a BP is regular gasoline, the diesel nozzle is black!
All early VW Beetles had their tanks under the bonnet. Well away from the engine. I could see BP may consider it dangerous filling up over a hot engine. When Service Stations gave service. The attendant would put the fuel in with automatic cutoff, (that was when we could afford to fill up our cars each time, whilst he checked your oil , naturally with the bonnet open.
I remember going to the petrol station with my mate in his series 1 Land Rover Defender, you've gotta lift up the drivers seat to fill it up. The person inside didn't seem impressed and refused sale... But he filled up his jerry can then poured it in to his tank 😂 then when he wanted to fill his jerry up again they refused 😂
The Honda range of c90 -c125 small bikes are also under the seat to fill the tank . But for everyday motorbikes anyway the tank sits on top of a hot engine, the proximity of fuel nozzle to hot engine exactly is analogous to his Renault situation, but one is permitted while the other is not .
@@Philip-hv2kc I've always wanted a honda c90, a old work colleague use to tell me of his travels on one. He told me he traveled from Preston to lands end in Cornwall via normal roads and it took him about 13 hours to get there. I never knew they had underseat fueling also
I haven’t bought a drop of BP since their “top kill” in the Gulf of Mexico. I hear that in Florida, BP stations are rebranding to Amoco, which used to be the finest fuel available in the USA. But that’s just a name, and the fuel is just mediocre. There are laws against false advertising. I will continue to buy non ethanol Marathon. Cheers.
This lady handled the situation of an irresponsible customer perfectly, the fact he put her in that situation just to make content for his paid CZcams channel is disgustingly selfish.
@@paulshanesmith What? He showed us how stupid the policy is to someone with an older vehicle. I am quite sure they would of banned the car if it was a potential risk years ago. The fact the car is still there and still running suggests it is not a safety issue, just big brother and think tanks going over the top. I am sure whoever thought of that got a gold star.
Bet that policy was made up by some graduate at BP who has never had another job just straight from university to BP lives in London, never owned a car, and uses pubic transport !
Someone at BP (in Ohio, USA) was rude to me in the late 1980s. Haven't been to BP in decades because of it. You deserve better service than BP. BOYCOTT BP.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 Not really , unless you have a high tension leak , but even then you will only get a small flash as there won't be that much vapour present .
In about 1974 a very small Fiat came in the the station I worked at. Guy just bought the car and we took minutes finding the gas filler. It was in the back over the motor. Maybe just ancient memory but I swear it was over the exhaust manifold. Guy that just bought it stood and stared. Said umm will you fill it? Me being 18 said yeah why not everyone else must have.
Meh, nearly every motorcycle has the fuel tank and filler right above the entire engine. Motorcycles bursting into flames as they're refueled is less common than an EV immolating itself just sitting doing nothing.
What you need to do is take a petrol container, fill it up at the pump, then from said container fill the car (however many times it needs), film all of this and send it to BP and show them the futility of the exercise....
I noticed a sign at the local shell garage stating simular policy, so not just BP it seems. If I still had my series 2a land rover, I would be stuffed, as the fuel tank was under the drivers seat!
I don't think that's the same thing - on the Mercedes vans I'm familiar with, you open the door, then open the fuel filler flap, then it's possible to close the door again while the fuel filler flap is still open.
strange that I've done many thousands of miles in my works Mercedes Luton is filled up at lots of filling stations including BP and no problems they must show you a proper signed letter from a high up member of the company
That is when you get enough friends to get gas at the same time with cars that have the same trunk fuel filler issue and just tie up the gas station from making money, I think the no open door issue policy will go out the door really fast.
Absolutely, I was going to post the same idea, probably far more abusively though. Come to think of it how many friends do you have with dodgy Renault that'll actually get there..... ( ho ho groan).
I don't even remember last time I used fuel station where you have to go pay inside. I can't remember which is the closest one here. I'd say majority, if not all, pumps herer are the ones that you pay at the pump and no need to go inside to pay. So you can pump the fuel where ever you want and no policies are stopping you.
BP need to talk to the staff at Corse on the A417. I regularly go there in my works defender, open back door and fill cans up with unleaded for mowers etc. with back door open throughout the transaction.
Ah, that old chestnut, "Health and safety". there's a car thats god knows how old and hasnt gone up yet, but a lot of forecourts allow electric charging? erm🤔
These were a very common rental car back in the '60s - a friend as well as my Father-in-law had them, loved driving them. Never had a fire, nor a dumb servo company.
That's what happens when someone who knows nothing about cars makes a policy. There should be an exception that says something like "unless original and unmodified design requires a boot to be open." But I suspect they'd rather lose the money than have a problem. Here in the USA I can't think of any factory cars that have a filler in the trunk or boot. We had cars where the petrol tank is the floor of the trunk (Mustang for one), but it had an outside filler. There are also cars with the filler hidden behind things like tail lights (57 Chevy) but still not in the boot. I suspect we'd have to go back pre-ww2 to maybe find that. Interesting to see the differences though.
i definitely see their point because it is dangerous all it takes is a little spill and it could go up in flames! but a solution would be get a big jerry can and fill that. i know its a hassle but if other petrol stations do this it will be the only way to do it
One of my old cars is a Trabant and the fuel tank is under the bonnet above the engine. Many a time i've seen them giving me a good look but never been refused yet. On one occasion the till person said i could see it was old and strange looking so it was probably ok. 😂 I think they were talking about the car🤣
Ironically, I had to fuel the Renault 11 yesterday, but it had a flat battery 🔋 😢, so slapped it on charge, and, as it was going to need fuel, rode to tesco with a 25Ltr steel fuel can, " No, you can have fuel, but please move your ebike away from the pumps, we don't trust it!!!" ⛽ 🚲 🔋 🔥
Well I can understand that! EVs are bad enough, but apparently ebikes and the like often use rather dodgy Lithium batteries, and account for a lot of fires which are really difficult to put out.
@@joelmartin2549 granted,but while Ebiking my way back, I kept thinking 🤔 next to me, on the other pump, was a '22 Hybrid range rover, his lithium battery 🔋 🔋 is HUGE, and, like the Ebike, is known to spontaneously erupt like a volcano too..... so, will they get banned soon too?
I work for BP in Australia we dont have that policy and even if we did we have ways around for example if I thought you where dodgy I can just ask you too pre pay for your fuel. or we have an app over here called bpme which allows you too authorize the pump and pay for fuel in that app if you have a card linked.
I had that insanity from BP with my Land Rover (filler under the driver's seat...). This "elfin safety" nonsense has gone too far & BP corporate need to sort their $**t.
It's not "elfin safety nonsense"; we are required to adhere to the rule that we must see that the nozzle is in the filler before authorising. What we NEED is a customer service attitude that sends a staff member out to check visually, so the pump can be authorised. That's what we do; and I've been sent multiple times. This is what the people failed to do in the video; they stood on the rule about being able to see the nozzle/filler, distorted it to suit their purpose with a cowpat justification, and then refused to look for a workaround. It would never have happened at our place; maybe THAT'S why we've been voted the BP Store of the Year...
I had a station in the US call the cops on me for facing the wrong way at the pumps. This station had a policy that you were only allowed to pull in with the pumps on the passenger side, which is genius because all US domestic cars have the filler neck on the driver side. Well I just ignored the sign because otherwise there'd be no way to reach my fuel tank, and continued ignoring them when they came out screaming at me about it.
@kevinbrookes6550 > If you have an odd couple of hours to spare you could sit at a pump waiting for authorization, > taking up valuable forecourt space. Having first made absolutely certain that there is no limit to the time you are allowed to remain there, because in an awful lot of garages there is, it's monitored by ANPR cameras and enforced by a parking management company, and if you stay too long, you will get a parking charge from them. Provided the signage was all OK you really would have entered into a legally binding agreement with the PMC that if you stayed for more than X minutes you would pay them £Y. In a situation like that you would have zero chance that the garage operator would intervene on your behalf to get the parking charge notice cancelled, and anybody who blusters on about not paying it is pi~~ing into the wind.
I must confess that BP has once again succeeded in the noble art of filling its management with incompetent decision makers. It must be an absolute miracle that companies like this survive at all. I assume that, as usual, it is about new acquisitions of snot puppies and upstarts with their heads under their arms. Perhaps it would be more appropriate to let such people start as toilet cleaners at the company's petrol stations and then slowly rise up the career ladder with firmness and life experience.
I used to go to Sainsburys and always stand with the nozzle in my hand waiting for the display to reset to all 000's after a garage once tried to make me pay for the previous persons fuel but Sainsburys won't authorize the pump unless the nozzle is stuck in the filler hole with the last person's price on the pump. Health and safety gone over the top.
BP are absolutely right. The design of this thing is absolutely wrong & I know of no other car that has the fuel filler in the same compartment as the engine. Even my 1931 Ford A Model has the filler cap in front of the windscreen away from the engine. I've owned cars from 1931 to 2003 here in Australia & never seen the stupidity of Renault in any other car, absolute shite!
Policies can be arbitrary and this incident is definitely eye opening, I would have asked for a copy of their policy, no doubt they would say to that 'it's online' as they sounded as though they had no interest in serving you and it was easier to simply refuse service 'because it's policy', which is order following mentality right there.
So click that subscribe button! Has this fuel issue happened to you with your classic…? Or even a modern, say a van that needs the door open to access the flap…?
My VW Bug needs the trunk to be open to get petrol
HayburnerTV did a video in response to this - you should check it out! Then put in your complaint to BP.
Thought the first Sprinters needed the passenger door open for access to the fuel cap?
Get electric instead.
This is not just BP. The rules for dispensing fuel are published and quite detailed. The BP staff did as the rules state. Granted, some rules seem trivial/excessive in today's world. Another, that if applied, winds people up is for motorcyclists. When refuelling you must not be sitting on the bike. Rationale when this rule was made was perhaps that if you spill fuel over the sides of your tank it will ignite on the hot engine resulting in you toasting your bits before you get off the bike. Now, imagine you have an off road bike and no stand. Gets a bit awkward trying to put fuel in whilst holding your bike up if you cannot sit on it.
There are many, many seemingly silly rules that all fuel dispensing staff should have been taught. Most fuel places seem to only apply the rules they want and don't fully follow those that are published.
This is the same company that tells you on a sign next to the pump to switch your phone off, next to a sign that tells you to “Pay by Phone”. You can’t make this shit up. 🤪
it would be interesting to go into the office and say that you are trying to pay by phone but the call isn't going through because the phone is turned off, do they authorise you to leave site before paying so you can get to an off site area where phones ARE allowed so you can pay by phone.
Top response.
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Democrats at their best . This is why the world is falling apart , pure stupidity .
Phone off near to the pump, its OK in the car switched on. I suspect you may be able to live without your phone for five minutes FFS.
Just buy a fuel can, then stand there hogging the pump whilst you keep filling it, paying, tipping it into your tank and repeat! They'll soon get fucking bored of that! 😆
Nice idea
Once the fuel has started to flow, then open the bootlid and continue filling up as normal, unless they are watching you, I doubt that they will kill the pump!
just go to a supermarket outside of opening hours use pay at the pump, nobody around to be a jobworth then.
@@jonathanellis1842 Now I have learned something. I had never heard of "jobworth". According to Wikipedia: A jobsworth is a person who uses the authority of their job in a deliberately uncooperative way, or who seemingly delights in acting in an obstructive or unhelpful manner. It characterises one who upholds petty rules even at the expense of effectiveness or efficiency. I've encountered those type of people and didn't know they had a name for that behavior.
Besides being a pain to do, I would not want to have to carry around fuel can that could leak or emit fuel vapors in my car. I really dislike the few times I need to fill fuel cans for the snowblower or generator.
The Customer is Always Wrong here in Britain.
The original saying of "The customer is always right" was in reference to the market, as in what is popular and gets bought. Its been twisted to mean "the customer is always right" at face value. So technically, if enough people complain about this issue or boycott/shop elsewhere, the customer would be always right.
Its kinda like how "Jack of All Trades; Master of None" got twisted to mean its better to be specialized in one thing, when the original quote is "Jack of All Trades; Master of None, though oftentimes better than a Master of One."
@@DustyOrange you just taught me more in two paragraphs than I learned in one year of schooling.
@@vietnamrebel wait till you learn "blood is thicker than water" is EXACTLY the opposite. its actually "The blood of the covenant is thicker than the water of the womb.” so literally chosen allegiance is stronger than a dumb blood bond.
@hyndscs
Yeah, what determines taste? Popular opinion. My phrasing is a bit different but its essentially the same. If people don't like your product, no matter how good it is, it doesn't matter if people won't buy it. That would include boycotts, cause it'd be distasteful to buy from a bad company
It's always funny when you get told something is wrong by some "I'm in charge here" thickwit that works on feeling and not fact.
This ban is all due to some accidents at these service stations. One of BP's service stations burnt down with a fuel tanker in Melbourne Australia a few years back, where a lady was filling up an illegal container in the boot of the car. The static electricity ignited the vapours, and the whole service station went up, with the Fuel tanker at this site. Clean up bill cost millions. That's why this has been brought in. Last few years there has been at least 6 Service stations that have gone up due to the negligents of motorists.
I do feel your pain, most of us suffer for others stupid ignorance at these sites, even with all the warning signs at the pumps.
So we are keeping the fuel attendant s
The lady should never have filled an illegal container . A safety regulation already existed to prevent accidental fire . But it can still happen with legal a container if panic ensues and it gets spilled following a fume ignition flash . Also the static electricity danger regions are known about like in Calgary Alberta where you get zapped touching doors .
@@Philip-hv2kc Yes but many people do things they shouldn't at the bowsers. Also many service stations also do not take hazards seriously, yes static is the biggest danger at the service station, and at fuel tanks. That's why these policies get put into place sadly.
NEGLIGENCE not Negligents.
You're banned from using the petrol pump.😂
Boo hoo you aussies are the biggest bootlicker tyrants on earth shame on Australia
Can't blame them, I would be careful of spills too if I dropped 134 million gallons of oil into the ocean..
Mind you, the penalty for that pretty much equated to a days income for BP. They only got a wrist slap for that spill.
@@johnwang9914 and the fine they received was given back as tax credit
I live here, I got to see the oil first hand and its effects. But it was not BPs fault, never was. It really wasn't the drillers fault either. No one could have expected the gas pocket that caused the blowout. Those things are going to happen in a modern energy using world. We can always go back to the caves I guess.
@@Dannysoutherner And yet, Schlumberger pulled out the day before as they considered the operation as unsafe... Encountering a gas pocket should've been managed safely, it may have been an unexpected circumstance but encountering gas pockets is to be expected when drilling for oil so it's not an excuse for the disaster. There's plenty to say that it was BP's work culture that was at fault...
I read the reports at the time. No one had ever encountered this type of pressure before. BP held the lease but another company did the exploration drilling that went bad. I don't work for BP but I still don't see how they caused it. Then, like now, we have an energy hating president who would like nothing but to take cars away from the public. What better way than to shut down oil drilling?
As my late father used to say - and he died in 1979 - “Common sense is a commodity In extremely short supply.” That gains more and more credence by the minute.
Excellent point.
Apparently it's not confined to Earth as I recall a quote like "The total amount of intelligence in the galaxy is constant, but the population is increasing".
@user-js4vx3by8i
> As my late father used to say - and he died in 1979 - “Common sense is a commodity
> In extremely short supply.” That gains more and more credence by the minute.
One saying I heard once was "Common sense is like a superpower round here".
@@anonnona8099 I bought our office manager a coffee cup emblazoned with "Common Sense is a curse because those who have it are forced to deal with those who don't".
Dad died in 77 he always said destroy the grammar schools and stupidity will follow, not was he right!
Common sense says that you should not fill a car this way, it is dangerous.
Used to work in a petrol station, we only had to check 3 things - not smoking, not using mobile phones & if using a fuel can that it didn’t look dodgy 🤣
The rule here is that the fuel can must be on the ground while filling. If you have it in the back of your car, static can build up.
How do they (the clients) pay if they can't use their phones?
Seriously, I know quite a few people who don't carry bank cards anymore. It's always pay by phone.
Never filling at BP again!
Thanks for the lovely vid,
Cheers!
Geoff, here's what you ought to do (it would make a funny video).
1- Go to BP fill a plastic petrol can.
2- Go in and pay.
3 Return to car, open boot and fill from the can.
4- Close the boot.
5 Return to step 1 and repeat until your car is full.
I would pay money to see you do that😂.
The sad thing is that whilst that method might comply with the health and safety nazis it would actually be a lot more dangerous..
@@ridbanner1407 yes it would be but it is also complying with their stupid policy while taking up a spot at the pump no one else can use while you are parked there
It has nothing to do with health and safety. It is to combat bilking - driving off without paying!@@ridbanner1407
If you wanted to waste pump time for them just spend half hour in station shopping, that annoyingly seems to be quite popular
The staff could refuse to serve him on the second attempt and instruct him to leave the premises.
Some modern vans you have to open passenger door to fill up😂
Or driver door if it's LHD. Have seen it on a brand new Hyundai H350
@@vadim6385 Whatever 😂
True but you can close the door before pumping
@@justmechanicthingsYou can, i never do
I guess you won't be welcome at that BP then!@@mrcaboosevg6089
I seem to remember that classic VWs had their filler under the bonnet in the front.
70% of DeLoreans have the filler under the front-boot. The first 2700 that were made had a fuel door on the front-boot/front-trunk cover. The remaining 6275 cars had a solid boot/frunk panel and cannot be fueled without opening the cargo area.
Amazing how VW got it wrong for over 20 million times!
I'm with B.P. on this one, the filler neck is frankly in a daft and dangerous place and they understandably don't want a fire on their forecourt.
And yet again.... No common sense available.
Standard in 2024 UK.
This is Bongland. Common Sense is banned. Common is a discriminatory word and using it is a micro-aggression. Sense discriminates against those who are differently abled and may do things that appear to have no logical connection to the situation at hand. Pointing out such inconsistencies in someone's actions or behaviour may be an offence under the Hurt Feelings Act of 2020. The police will deal with offenders most severely, whilst ignoring trivial crimes, such as underprivileged gangs of Scrotus Vulgaris helping themselves to your pride and joy. Evening_All.gif
When I worked for Wolverhampton Council it was very obvious that those people "with qualifications" but no sense common or otherwise we're never dismissed they were promoted sideways and up. The result "dickheads" at the top!
Common sense if they had said it was because of the filler over the engine though.
Hardly, as Geoff the chav himself admits he would pumping fuel right next to a fully exposed hot engine. The past is a different country and they did things differently there.
It's always BP though. I was at BP station once and the tannoy demanded I take my helmet off at the pump. I wandered in and said "What?" and got told it was company policy that all motorcyclists have to remove their helmet at the pump. I was not in the mood for the aggressive manner this was delivered in either so I asked how far the next garage was and the response was a scoffing noise and "Oh, 20 miles up the road!". He got sworn at and called a liar at this point cos I knew damn well there was another one about a mile further on. 1st and only time I've been asked to remove a piece of safety equipment on a garage forecourt in 35 years of riding.
The second time was a BP at a motorway services who demanded I get off the bike to fill it up (you can't completely fill a motorcycle fuel tank unless it's upright, makes may be 20 miles of range worth of difference). I tried explaining this to the bird behind the counter but nope.
Utterly ridiculous. And don't forget, BP is the company that drilled a massive hole in a Mexican oil field and released Cthulhu. B*stards.
BP once upon a time was the british gov until it was privatised... But still operates like a QuaNGO.
Tell them your helmet identifies as a burka.
In South Africa the idiots are shell. There is a sign saying you must get off your motorcycle and not use a cell phone, then they bring you a cell phone so you can authorise payment.
Actually, you will find it IS required for you to get off your bike and place it on a secure stand for fuelling . It was standard at our company (NOT BP) .
We had to do CPL courses and in the HSE section it was forbidden to authorise a pump while the rider is astride the machine OR not securely on a stand. Most pumps or canopy pillars will display the do's and dont's and it is clearly there .
Sure enough , one busy afternoon many vans and cars on the forecourt where the pumps closest to the road are obscured at the best of times gets authorised and a biker slipped , bike went over and he got momentarily pinned under his bike with fuel glugging all over him ...hot motorcycle too .....(you see the problem?) we had to get the spill kit out all because he was too lazy to put it on the stand . In the mean time , the WHOLE forecourt HAS to be shut down until the spill was dried up and disposed of. Which means cones at the entrance and exit to prevent people coming in . Thus lost business .The person that authorised the pump got a reprimand from the manager .
Im a biker myself and the amount of times I have had irate brothers coming in complaining about not being able to FILL their tanks right to the brim if its on the stand.. I dont think I have EVER filled to the brim on any of my bikes since adulthood .
@@gpo746 In 35 years of riding I've been ordered to get off the bike once, therefore, I put it to you that concern for a bikers safety isn't shared by many who don't secretly want "Respec mah authoritaaaar" to be their family motto.
Come over here to Cyprus! Garage attendants (most of them friendly and polite) are filling up your car, at no extra cost. And the petrol is cheaper here. (Only when the garage is closed, you have to fill it up yourself. Terminals then control the payment as well as the opening and closing of the pumps. And so far these terminals don't check where the filler is and whether doors are open...)
Wait a minute! The pump has to be authorised? That is literally unheard of in Germany. You go to the fuel station, pick a pump and just like that the refueling process starts and you pay afterwards. No extra authorisation is needed.
Fuel theft is common in the UK, witnessed it myself a few times.
Not just a classic car problem. I had a 1995 Mitsubishi Express. The filler was inside the passenger door. So you had to open the door to get to to it. Reason for the design was no locks required. So some vans will also not be allowed to fill. My sister-in-law has a VW Beetle and you have to open the bonnet to fill that.
Yes the VW Beetle had the petrol cap under the bonnet up to 1967!
Actually the boot , but indeed many vans now have the fuel flap tucked behind the passenger door : Mercedes Sprinter , VW Crafter and other clones .
On some older American cars the fuel cap is under the rear license plate or one of the tail lights I wonder if that would be allowed? Which you probably wouldn't be driving one of those there they wouldn't fit on a lot of roads lol
@@redtra236In the 70's & 80's having the filler cap behind the back plate was quite common. It actually makes sense since you can fill up at any side of the pump. My 87 Fairmont was like that. When I got my 89 Orion it was on the side and it was a pain. My neighbours Humber had it behind the left reflector in the break-light cluster.
@@2DogsVlogs Chevy Caprice had that up until 1996 when the car was discontinued.
My eldest daughter used to work at a petrol station at weekends when she was at Uni. Ive just asked her about this. She says they're supposed to come out to check. Once they've seen its not going into a bucket or some other dodgy receptical they should authorise the pump. My guess is they couldn't be arsed to come out to look.
My advice is contact someone like Practical Classic magazine
So you are not allowed to fill fuel into anything you want it in? I used to fill soda bottles in my youth for my bike just fine
@SwedishEmpire1700 that was extremely dangerous.
Personally I would have refused to move the car until they did come out to check and turn the pump on.
Always challenge stupidity.
Are they really supposed to go out and check every single sale to make sure of what you dispense your fuel into?
@@tonycamplin8607
What's dangerous about that? Maybe the bottles were glass.
I had a BMW F650 Scarver as a loan bike while my regular bike was in for an extended service, instead of a filler on the fuel tank it has the fuel filler on the right side seat fairing (actual fuel tank is under the seat and what is normally a motorcycle tank is a dummy tank used as a storage area) - had some issues with a service station near me when I went to fill it, had to wheel the bike round to the window to show the staff that, indeed, where I was putting the fuel nozzle was, in fact, the fuel filler... oh yeh and that was a BP station too
This was the same station that insisted I "put my bike on the centre stand" ... on a bike that didn't have one (admittedly that bike did lean alarmingly on the side stand)
I was once driving a modified car that had a front bumper with no number plate support, so I had to keep the plate inside in the dashboard, which by local rules is perfectly fine and legal. When I went to fill at a station, they refused to authorize the pump because "I had no plate so I coudl fill up and leave". Also funny enough they made a big deal, beeing mean and stuff just because it was rush hour and there were a lot of customers. I went back to the car, turn around while beeing inside the gas station and drove backwards, because at the rear bumper I did had the number plate attached. After that they had no other choice to open the pump and let me fill it. Loved how mad they were when i went inside to pay!
If they do not have common sense they will get it...Let's Boycott BP stations WW. Have they heard about BudLight...
Boycott BP mainly because they are most expensive. I personally can't see the issue their policy. Fill up with petrol over a hot engine, what could possibly go wrong. This is most likely down to insurance or similar. Can't see the drama personally.
@@sduk451you need a spark to ignite petrol vapour not a bit of warmth, follow the science
@@nigellawrance2130 good point and don't disagree. I'm not a fan of BP, but I do get their stance on this.
@@sduk451 Oh dear. If you cannot see the problem with that policy you are clearly happy yo be acused of being a fuel thief without any evidence. How odd !
(Heat from an engine will not ignite fuel ... just as mobiles phones will not either) !
It's not BP though, it's the half wit on the till. Obviously the intention is if you're filling up a car that doesn't have the filler in the boot.
Stupid people work at petrol stations.
I love how this guy prefaced the video by saying "if I came across as quite rude", so I was expecting some fireworks, and this guy was by American standards very reasoned, rational, and as the Brit's might say "jolly".
Lol he really told her 😂
Agree. I thought Geoff was very restrained in the circumstances.
I think Geoff is of the view that as an Englishman if you don't start the conversation with "I'm terribly sorry to bother you, but would you mind awfully..." then you are but one step from unbridled chaos.
Oh, yeah! If that had happened here in the US, especially in a big city, things wouldn't have ended with smiles and well-wishes! And I'm understating it. It's good to see that people in the UK are still as friendly and good-natured as they were in the 80's and 90's when I was there last.
If I use the word retarded , CZcams usually deletes my comments.
This is a prime example of that. That and laziness
What nobody seems to notice is the filler is right above the battery, coil and distributor in the Renault 10 explains why those are so rare right
Unless you spray the hot engine with plenty of fuel, nothing will happen. The 2 drops that might fall will evaporate almost instantly, with too little gas to pose any risk. The R8 and R10 were safe. If there had been any problems when these cars went out, this area would have been closed off.
I only go to BP (unless traveling and one is not available), and after I start filling, I go open the hood to check the oil. I've never been told to close it while filling up.
Here in Australia, you only go to a BP if there is no alternative, as they are on average, 25-30c a litre more expensive than everyone else. Mostly fleet and company vehicles use them as they are locked in on a contract.
Closest BP to me is 189.9. Next servo is 189.9, and Mobil 191.9. Sounds like someone is full if it!
I agree that BP is usually the most expensive, but you can find cheaper BPs if you use a petrol price app. I have a lease car that has a BP card with it and I can also earn Qantas FF points - so I'll use BP when it's priced right.
7/11 FTW :)
I’m in Sydney. Metro, Payless, Budget and a bunch of other no name _servos_ are usually 10-20c cheaper than any of the usual suspects.
Shop independent. Woolies and coles / Wesfarmers get too much of our money anyway
The road to hell is paved with convenience
That's the fact , I never use BP and I drive a lot.
But surely that means that no car can fill up in a BP as we now have little doors that hide the petrol filler that we have to open and keep open in order to fill the car with fuel??
A very good point.
if geoff called boot filler flap not boot winner winner .. but i was think same
The door for access to the fuel filling tube is not a standard size so Geoff just happens to have a big one.
It's the fuel and vapour over a hot engine that's the problem, not the door.
No this issue is about BP dictating that you have to close all parts of your vehicle whilst filling your car. What they are really saying is none of us can be trusted
Ford has a Transit van over here in the United States that the driver's door has to be left open to be able to access the fuel, my co-worker showed me and you have to open a panel basically inside the door jamb.... I just stood there and shook my head. You can probably shut the door while filling but then you can't close the fuel filler panel without reopening the door first.
Ford/Renault/Citroen/Peugeot/Opel have vans made on the same platform. Fuel door flap is designed in a way so you have to open the door, open the fuel flap, pump the petrol then open the doors to close the fuel flap. It's harder to break in and this kind of design eliminates the need for yet another lock.
Good idea. Means no one can steal fuel.
@@nts_nathaniel Mercedes-Benz Vitos same thing. The newer Opel/Toyota/Citroen/Nissan ones don't, at least the smaller Vivaro, etc. Fiat Talentos and Ducatos have the flaps too.
Yeah but you can close the door while you're filling. The post office has some amount of Mercedes Benz metris vans in the fleet and they are the same way. But these people who are "just following the policy" are part of the problem. It is just idiotic to refuse sale because of that.
my sons 2015 transit the same
I just saw a video from Hayburner TV and they were able to fill up their VW Beetle at BP (in response to this supposed ban). This means that it is probably an individual decision of this petrol station, but not a decision of the entire company.
When somebody states a "policy", ask to see it in writing, signed by senior manager/executive. Ive caught these types out a more than one occasion.
Since any salesman can write a note one time I said that I would only accept either a published document (which meant Legal had approved it) or a letter on Company letterhead signed by an Officer of the company (who would not have risked Rhee job signing off on a lie).
The salesman went away.
Get them every time these woke retards think their policy is above law and it sends them in a right tizzy when their told it is as as relevant and useful to me as used toilet roll it only applies to you. If they push it I generally say 50k a year as a contractor and up front then I will listen and observe your policy if not shut up I don't want to hear it anymore.
I rather doubt these hassled shop workers have conspired to implement such a devious policy,asking for written confirmation from them seems puril go to the big cheeses ,follow the money ,I bet you'll find H.R or green policies at the root of the matter!
Do you really believe that _every_ employee, at _every_ company, is obliged to produce *written legal evidence* for _every_ policy that _every_ Karen wants to see, _every_ time? 🤦♂
@@maxhugen I only did that twice. Both times when I knew that the salesman was lying to me, and that I was the one who was going to get in trouble at work if I believed their bs.
So old land rovers with the tank under the seats can't fill up.
And Mercedes Sprinter boxcars with the filler behind the driver's door?
Damn, my Defender has an under seat tank....
Don't use overpriced BP fuel.
It's about 4p a litre more expensive than everywhere else.
@@Craig-wp3pzWhere did you have it modified ?
Ah, but isnt the filler cap on the side body panel of the Landy?? So they should be fine...
in sweden no problem, w e have classic cars from all around the world here, even cars where the standard fuel filler position is underneath the hood/bonnet or trunk
I'd be the arsehole to sit at the pump all day...
"sorry mate, im out of go go juice"
Yep. That's me.
Not on your own mate
Me to
You must have a lot of time on your hands, if you can afford to sit at a petrol pump all day.
@@sandgrownun66 lets be honest.. these days, much cheaper than the petrol itself 🤪
This is so alien to me. Belgium, most pumps are fully automated, put in your card, the pump starts, put the nozzle in, click the "keep pumping until it's full" catch on, walk off and sit in your car for a minute. If the catch is broken, jam your tank cap in the trigger to keep it on. It still can't overflow.
Technical difference aside, the lack of common sense here is scary.
You've managed to avoid the health and safety brigade over there for a bit then. Trust me they'll come, plus the CCTV and other checks to make sure you are not stealing the fuel.
Here in the UK it's automated as well, but the staff can disable pumps.
Mostly it's supposed to be about preventing a recognised pump and dash criminal from using the pumps but also for health and safety if they see underaged people trying to operate the pumps or someone filling up unsafe containers.
I remember there was a guy in Texas that was pumping fuel into wheelie bins carried in the back of his pickup truck.
Never use my card at the pump due to information skimmers being installed on pump slots at night. Always go inside and pay.
@@dlarge6502 Or, facial recognition for a minor crime and the police coming after you.
@@scrambler69-xk3kv Use chip or RFID cards instead, then they can't skim as they are encrypted. If there is combined magnetic and chip card readers, there could be a skimmer on the magnetic portion, but theres a solution: Take a neodymium magnet, and swipe it along the magnetic strip on your credit card. It will erase the magnetic strip, so the skimmer can't read it. Then you pay by the pump but using chip or RFID instead. Can't be skimmed.
Its much better to pay by the pump as they can't hog the prices. Some untrustworthy gas stations have a price on the sign and pump, but then say "ooh we set the price wrong" and then forces you to pay a higher price. By paying by the pump, they can't ask for a higher price unless the price is "obviously wrong", then they can post-charge the card.
But such post charges can not be done so often either, so if a gas station tries to cheat the system they lose the ability to post-charge. Then the card aquirer will say, you have to be more careful when setting prices, now you have to swallow the loss for the incorrect pricing.
So its MUCH safer to pay at the pump, because then you pay as advertised, not what the clerk decides at the point of pay. Thats the risky thing with paying AFTER you have consumed the goods, they can just claim "ooh the prices on the sign is wrong". Thats why you always pre-pay, if they ask for a unreasonable price, you can always abort the transaction. Hard to abort the transaction if you already filled up and theres disagreement about the price.
WoW that’s incredibly sad. The state of the world 🤦🏼♂️
BP does have a point as in that a filler cap close to a hot engine cannot be safe
Stand there with your boot closed until the pump is authorised then open your boot!
Correct!. Collect your crystal and move to the next puzzle 👍
They can also turn them off at any time, so it would just get turned off, as soon as the cover is opened.
@@RangieNZ … “Use the Force” Geoff … (this boot is closed, it’s not the car you’re looking for move along) 😂😂😂
They would just shut down the pump 🤷🏻♂️
It's a private business. They have the right to make the rules. You have the right to take your business elsewhere.
Geoff, have you learnt nothing? Your standard response should have been 'my boot identifies as a petrol flap'
Brilliant!
🤣
This.
Haha awesome!
Big sticker on boot lid: Filler Flap.. I like it! 😂
I had a 1968 Renault 10 in 1971, which was before self-service was legal in my state (Illinois). I'd have to get out and open the trunk for the puzzled attendant. But the best thing about the Renault 10 was that you could start it with a crank! I had to do that many times until I replaced the battery. Another feature was the front seats could slide all the way forward and then fold back to turn the entire interior into a flat mattress. All this plus 35 mpg! The only bad thing was that it was hard to get parts. Still, I wouldn't mind having it now.
Another feature in the Renault 10 is that the locks are impossible to pick! A lesson I learned the hard way on a snowy winters evening, engine running (for cabin heat) went out to get snow off the windscreen and the door closed softly after a few seconds, took the recovery guy 20 attempts and about an hour to get the door opened, after first telling me that this was his final attempt before smashing the side window 😂 Now my house key and car key are always separated 😎
One more feature is the radiators expansion tank is a big jamjar made from very thick glass, when that goes boom, it sounds like being hit by a big artillery shell, and clean underwear is needed! (Never ever try to make it pull a caravan half way through Europe!!) 😮🤣
@@sgtommyc Pickproof locks might be a good selling point - Except I don't think anyone ever wanted to steal it!
I ended up buying another two Renaults - Model 5 "LeCar" - and the radiator expansion bottle was thick plastic. I still have one on the basement. (Why, I don't know.) But what I remember about the radiator was that there was no drain on the bottom - as if they never intended you to change the antifreeze!
They were fun to drive, though. And good in snow.
@@ROGER2095 The 5 was way better than any of its predecessors! The 8 and 10 was rivals to Fiats 500 and 600, and the 4 was Renaults answer to Citroens 2CV, while the 5 was a run at VW's Polo 😊Here in Europe they were all great cars for their time, they would haul a family of 4 to anywhere on the continent and serve as traffic friendly commuter cars outside the holidays, and they didn't break your bank account 😎 The cars you'd consider cheap back then (over there) were as expensive as Jag E-type over here 😮
@@sgtommyc Other than getting it repaired, I was very happy with my two Renault 5s! Quick, easy to drive, easy to park, roomier than you'd think, high gas mileage, good in snow, and one of them had a giant sunroof, which I really enjoyed, especially when driving in the mountains. If they were still in business in America, I'd gladly get another one.
I'd turn you away too. Filling RIGHT NEXT TO a hot engine is beyond idiotic. And blaming that poor employee is stupid.
Looks like BP's think tank is catching up with the stupidity of governments.
Although the positioning of the filler neck,over a hot engine,is a pretty stupid design.
I think the car was designed before little men with clip-boards were invented 🤣
Apparently it was quite common in older cars to have the filler pipe in the same area as the engine. Potentially dangerous, yes. But I bet people were more careful not to spill when filling back then too! haha
@@soundseeker63 I have had petrol boiling on an exhaust manifold before. But not a good idea if you spill some over the plugs and then start up without a good contact.
I had a pull by a copper for "having a unroadworthy car" ...Why unroadworthy? Because it was smoking and for me "revving " my engine
I replied "of course it does, its a Trabant !"
I had to educate the copper and tell him it was a Two stroke , still looking baffled he said " So , what "
I replied... You ADD oil to the petrol .... thus it smokes and being a 2 stroke it revs freely and highly .
I had to educate him further by popping the bonnet and showing him the fuel tank.. RIGHT ABOVE THE ENGINE.
The fuel gauge was a plastic dipstick , I opened the filler neck and dipped it , he smelt it and jumped back when he realised it WAS petrol in there .
He didn't want to know after that , told me to get on my way ..
Had an issue at one petrol station where I was refused and I used the plastic jerry can from the boot to fill it up , made a farce out of them as when I paid I kept doing it in 2 liter lots just to piss them off , going back and forth to pay . The silly old bag serving said "why don't you FILL the petrol can ? " My reply, "why don't you just let me fill my tank "? . Funny, because next time I went there she never said boo to me and just let me crack on and fill up my tank .
Positioning a filler neck over a hot engine? What, you mean like most motorcycles?
It’s not that rare. Even my chainsaw has its filler above a hot engine
I worked in a place that had a lady transport busybody 🙄 checking lights etc, she said no vehicles would leave the yard without lights and a mechanic would come once a month to sort anything..... we use to change our own bulbs and told her this and her response was "we weren't qualified to do that 😂
She didn't last long there😊👍🇮🇪
She wasn't qualified to be a transport busybody!😂😂
you sound like a childish twat.
Seem plenty of DIY disasters by people who can't even change a light bulb.
Watch Just Rolled In.
Pretty much everywhere in the United States you just pay either the cashier or the pump itself with a credit card and pump your own gas. So long as you aren’t just spilling fuel on the ground you are left alone
Some people who formulate rules have absolutely no common sense whatsoever
I'm 71 years old and have to show my ID at the store to buy beer. In this wonderful (sarcasm) new world we live in where CCTV cameras are dirt cheap, and internet bandwidth is abundant, most big companies have cameras everywhere and monitor the goings on at a store any time they want. As such, employees are faced with the prospect of minimum wage (or overseas contract) corporate drones watching over their shoulder and reporting them for breaking the "rules" despite the fact that they have zero context on the situations they are observing. They are just protecting their jobs (or the jobs of the store manager) from the upstream Karens.
In a local supermarket, the cashier demanded a senior citizen to show his ID. He was buying several DVDs and they were all certified as a U and PG!
@@AmigaA-or2hj Hahaha... In Australia the local supermarket gives me a 5% discount, coz I'm an old fart. 🤣🇦🇺
It happened to me once in a shopping centre, a young sale's promotion girl asked me if I was over 18 , I said no and walked away laughing my head off I thought it was really funny I'm 65 haha.
You're lucky. I'm in my mid 30s and still have at least another 4 decades of this madness to go. This is why I'll never quit smoking, what's the point lol.
@@jwatson9732 Here's hoping, for your sake, that the pendulum is near the end of it's travel and will soon swing back in the direction of sanity.
I think Tannoy was the amalgamation of the two words TO and ANNOY
A Yorkshire word to be sure...
Not sure how things work in the UK, but could you stand next to the rear until the pump is authorized, then open the boot to fill it up?
They’ll probably just shut it off again
Find station ran by male employee.
Im a tree surgeon. I won't use BP, they refused to authorise the pump to fill our Jerry cans whilst in the back of a landy. So I removed the cans and they still wouldn't authorise the pump due to filling jerry cans 😅
How to destroy your business, BP going down the drain.
I wonder if they sell fuel cans 😂
BP and all petroleum petro dollar and world governments are obviously owned by the same family but i still havent been to Bp in years has it really gotten that bad what an odd thing maybe theyre going to turn into ev stations or something
I remember when you couldn't fill a jerry can if it was outside your car.
@@turokforever007 At one time filling a plastic can was prohibited. Then they brought out plastic furl cans !
The fuel station / convenience store is so similar to what we have in the US. Same amount of charm from the employees as well.
Perhaps in some states, in most states in the US you pay for at the pump, pump your own gas and nobody gives flying crap... you can even pump gas at stores after hours at many locations with nothing but a security camera probably on you.
I stopped going to o e place for fuel that was suppose to give a 4 cent per gallon discount when paying cash cause all their new cashier's kept forgetting, and also cause I hated waiting over 5 minutes for them then to correctly authorize the pump. . just saying. It's the little things that make or break a business
Ha, funny story, when I was young I bought a brand new DeLorean, on the way home I stopped by the gas station here in America and I could not find the fuel filter door, I walked around the car, I could not find a fuel door anywhere, I just walked around the car pulling on everything until I finally gave up and pulled out the owners manual from the glove box, it turns out that the fuel filler is inside the trunk up front because the engine is in the back.
I still own the DeLorean to this day but I do have to open the front trunk to fill the car with fuel.
During a track weekend one of my Alfasud's two dual Dellortos developed a leak and sprayed petrol around the exhaust manifold (boxer engine so the exhaust manifold is under each bank). We'll, I didn't catch fire, I smelled the petrol, hurried back to the pits, opened the hood and was terrified. It's a good thing my mechanic was at the event himself and he sealed the leak on the spot. 😅
To fill my ex army 1970 Land Rover its necessary to take out both front seat cushions (its twin tanks), lift out two metal covers, take out and pull up the tank filters then fill each tank. Its a right faff so I tend to brim it. Filling means having both front doors open and reaching in with the hoses. The trick is to pick filling stations with disinterested teenagers who are on their phone the whole time, they never look out the window😀
Maybe contact BP head office for a comment, this is a chance for the to rethink their guidance. Either that or go back and tell the it's not a boot it's a fuel flap.
😵Really! ... I mean, there's bound to be an informed, intelligent person employed at BP head office that could supply a perfect solution! ... Right?🤯🤣
it is fuel flap, the boot is guess rear engine car the boot in the front of car. flap is part body work to protect from theft as behind the flap most cars do not have lockable fuel cap unless they have no fuel flap and cap on out side. so in theory the engine cover is a fuel flap. id go back at a busy time and fill a fuel can up and then when got fuel you wanted put in to car before you move, guess what doing that way far more dangerous than just using the pump so that get the message across @@_Why_123
CEO is an askhole.
It's a bonnet
@@_Why_123 You mean Jim Ratcliffe , CEO of INEOS , who own BP and classic car and Land Rover enthusiast - he bought and restored Land Rover No.1 ( oldest land Rover in the world ) , before rallying it across the Sahara Desert !
He probably does not put up with nonsense .
Had similar issues here in Aus in the past. Same deal. The other one I've had was "Sir you cannot have a numberplate that flips up, screw it back down then we will authorise the pump the police have also been called".
Wanted so badly to just disappear, peak hour cars honking etc.
Final one I had, driving stupid remote through the outback single servo (fuel/gas station) town. Go to fill up my landcruiser with diesel because won't make it to the next town otherwise. Keep getting denied over PA. Go inside she says she is doing my a favour as I need petrol (gasoline) I state I've got a diesel. Nope. Take a picture of my fuel door, engine and bring up Wikipedia on my vehicle. Nope. Had to drive up the road and wait until the next day for someone else was working. Tried a few times throughout the day before they closed but no luck she was on from 11am to around 6pm when they closed.
Damn, that is a shame. BP and Texaco, as far as I've been able to ascertain, are the only UK suppliers of super unleaded that actually has no ethanol in it, even though 5% is stated on the pumps.
That pump woman would be a great government official.
Just send in AB to wind her up😅
@@Curi0u50neAB?? You lost me.
It's only because he didn't fill out the blue presidential form
The old "We're just doing what we're told" excuse.
She was just following company safety policy. What was she expected to do?
Had the same at a Shell station with my TVR. Explained very politely that the fuel tank is in the boot and they let me fuel up then.
A friend has just waved a jerry can in the general direction of the counter and has the pump turned on with the boot open. Guess they didn't wonder why a 5 litre container took over 40!
I think you can fill 4 5lt containers ?
@@highpath4776 Probably, but it's easier just to pump it straight into the tank. And safer.
See my comment elsewhere - I have been refused fuel when trying to fill a metal can because they only allowed 'cans that were made to take petrol'. Despite the fact that my can had 'PETROLEUM SPIRIT - HIGHLY INFLAMMABLE' stamped on it and had been made specifically to carry petrol (OK, in 1937 🙂), as far as they were concerned the fact that it was made of metal disqualified it from being used for that purpose. As most jerrycans are made of metal I am surprised they allowed it!
It's odd because BP in Australia do not have that rule. I often get 40-50 litres in 10l containers, plus fill my car, and every time I get the 4-5 containers out, leave the boot open, fill the containers then the car, and place the containers in the boot, and go pay. Never ever had an issue with BP, 7/eleven, Shell, or Caltex here in Australia
Sounds like they don't GAF. I think you are meant to fill the containers on the ground(?). I can't recall exactly. Something to do with earthing.
Most fires at petrol stations are caused by static electric build up, then the person touches the car by the fuel filler and gets a spark.
Don't feel so bad. I rarely ever use BP in the USA unless I can get a discount using one of my two apps on my phone.
You can have 5 or 6 gas stations withing a few miles of each other and you will see that BP has the highest prices per gallon out of all of them.
Take a boot lid off and then go to BP 😂
Had the same problem at Esso a few years ago with my military lightweight Landrover where the fuel filler is under the drivers seat. The attendant came over to inspect then used common sense. I was going to poke the hose through the window if all else failed. You just need to laugh at it all.
My Willys MB has neither doors nor side 'windows' (curtains).
I have not bought fuel at a bp since 2003! Every station you go to the diesel pump is green, but not at BP! Green at a BP is regular gasoline, the diesel nozzle is black!
All early VW Beetles had their tanks under the bonnet. Well away from the engine. I could see BP may consider it dangerous filling up over a hot engine.
When Service Stations gave service. The attendant would put the fuel in with automatic cutoff, (that was when we could afford to fill up our cars each time, whilst he checked your oil , naturally with the bonnet open.
"Shes a manager aswell".....😂😂😂😂 did well at school then 😂😂
That's it, sneer at the working class
I remember going to the petrol station with my mate in his series 1 Land Rover Defender, you've gotta lift up the drivers seat to fill it up. The person inside didn't seem impressed and refused sale... But he filled up his jerry can then poured it in to his tank 😂 then when he wanted to fill his jerry up again they refused 😂
The Honda range of c90 -c125 small bikes are also under the seat to fill the tank . But for everyday motorbikes anyway the tank sits on top of a hot engine, the proximity of fuel nozzle to hot engine exactly is analogous to his Renault situation, but one is permitted while the other is not .
@@Philip-hv2kc I've always wanted a honda c90, a old work colleague use to tell me of his travels on one. He told me he traveled from Preston to lands end in Cornwall via normal roads and it took him about 13 hours to get there. I never knew they had underseat fueling also
That's just absolutely nuts, I have never heard of a petrol station here in Norway that has a policy like that..
Hardly any petrol cars left in Norway though, they're probably just glad of the business
I haven’t bought a drop of BP since their “top kill” in the Gulf of Mexico. I hear that in Florida, BP stations are rebranding to Amoco, which used to be the finest fuel available in the USA. But that’s just a name, and the fuel is just mediocre. There are laws against false advertising. I will continue to buy non ethanol Marathon. Cheers.
most employees at petrol stations are not hired for skill and knowledge. But for as cheap as possible.
It's absolutely not the employees fault, they are following a policy set by BP, blaming them is completely unfair.
I think those employees are well aware that if they made a "sensible" exception, they could be fired on the spot. Not their fault.
Soon to be replaced by foriegn illegals.
This lady handled the situation of an irresponsible customer perfectly, the fact he put her in that situation just to make content for his paid CZcams channel is disgustingly selfish.
@@paulshanesmith What? He showed us how stupid the policy is to someone with an older vehicle. I am quite sure they would of banned the car if it was a potential risk years ago. The fact the car is still there and still running suggests it is not a safety issue, just big brother and think tanks going over the top. I am sure whoever thought of that got a gold star.
Take a container to the same place fill it then open the boot and fill your tank. Not much they can do 😊
Remember to use a steel can, plastic fuel cans are usually restricted to 5 litres, steel can good for twenty according to the rules......
@RichieReportsUK its a mad world 🌎 ⛽
Bet that policy was made up by some graduate at BP who has never had another job just straight from university to BP lives in London, never owned a car, and uses pubic transport !
Film it just to be funny
I assume you are only educated to a low level, couple of low grade G.C.S.E. 's ?@@ChrisHipkiss
In South Carolina some places leave the pumps on for card sales after the shop’s closed.
Someone at BP (in Ohio, USA) was rude to me in the late 1980s. Haven't been to BP in decades because of it. You deserve better service than BP. BOYCOTT BP.
The look on the coppers face was priceless !
he had a gay pride march he was looking forward to!
Found out no food for sale
He was making sure no hurty words were being used.
Cops aren't very bright. he won't have realised that petrol vapour above a hot engine is a very serious fire risk.
@@asensibleyoungman2978 Not really , unless you have a high tension leak , but even then you will only get a small flash as there won't be that much vapour present .
In about 1974 a very small Fiat came in the the station I worked at. Guy just bought the car and we took minutes finding the gas filler. It was in the back over the motor. Maybe just ancient memory but I swear it was over the exhaust manifold. Guy that just bought it stood and stared. Said umm will you fill it? Me being 18 said yeah why not everyone else must have.
So when Summer is here... Where are you going to fill up your "open top" coupe'... 😮
Meh, nearly every motorcycle has the fuel tank and filler right above the entire engine. Motorcycles bursting into flames as they're refueled is less common than an EV immolating itself just sitting doing nothing.
@@iffracem Good point!
What you need to do is take a petrol container, fill it up at the pump, then from said container fill the car (however many times it needs), film all of this and send it to BP and show them the futility of the exercise....
I noticed a sign at the local shell garage stating simular policy, so not just BP it seems.
If I still had my series 2a land rover, I would be stuffed, as the fuel tank was under the drivers seat!
Some (maybe all) Merc Sprinters require the front nearside door to be open The filler is in the door shut area.
I don't think that's the same thing - on the Mercedes vans I'm familiar with, you open the door, then open the fuel filler flap, then it's possible to close the door again while the fuel filler flap is still open.
Same with a Ford Transit & Custom!, & they were all designed for LHD as you could open it as you get out, RHD you have to open the passenger door!
strange that I've done many thousands of miles in my works Mercedes Luton is filled up at lots of filling stations including BP and no problems they must show you a proper signed letter from a high up member of the company
That is when you get enough friends to get gas at the same time with cars that have the same trunk fuel filler issue and just tie up the gas station from making money, I think the no open door issue policy will go out the door really fast.
Absolutely, I was going to post the same idea, probably far more abusively though.
Come to think of it how many friends do you have with dodgy Renault that'll actually get there..... ( ho ho groan).
Need to choose the busiest time of the day. And everyone that shows up, bring a 1 gallon gas can. 😂
I don't even remember last time I used fuel station where you have to go pay inside. I can't remember which is the closest one here. I'd say majority, if not all, pumps herer are the ones that you pay at the pump and no need to go inside to pay. So you can pump the fuel where ever you want and no policies are stopping you.
BP need to talk to the staff at Corse on the A417. I regularly go there in my works defender, open back door and fill cans up with unleaded for mowers etc. with back door open throughout the transaction.
Ah, that old chestnut, "Health and safety". there's a car thats god knows how old and hasnt gone up yet, but a lot of forecourts allow electric charging? erm🤔
It is possibly because somebody has deemed it an insurance risk without actually understanding Health & Safety.
Yeah I mean dripping petrol and highly volatile petroleum vapour over a hot engine. What could possibly go wrong?
Any evidence?@@wealdstoneraider5364
Have ev manufacturers produced Risk assessments on their vehicles? Just asking. @@archstanton5603
These were a very common rental car back in the '60s - a friend as well as my Father-in-law had them, loved driving them.
Never had a fire, nor a dumb servo company.
That's what happens when someone who knows nothing about cars makes a policy. There should be an exception that says something like "unless original and unmodified design requires a boot to be open." But I suspect they'd rather lose the money than have a problem.
Here in the USA I can't think of any factory cars that have a filler in the trunk or boot. We had cars where the petrol tank is the floor of the trunk (Mustang for one), but it had an outside filler. There are also cars with the filler hidden behind things like tail lights (57 Chevy) but still not in the boot. I suspect we'd have to go back pre-ww2 to maybe find that.
Interesting to see the differences though.
i definitely see their point because it is dangerous all it takes is a little spill and it could go up in flames! but a solution would be get a big jerry can and fill that. i know its a hassle but if other petrol stations do this it will be the only way to do it
One of my old cars is a Trabant and the fuel tank is under the bonnet above the engine. Many a time i've seen them giving me a good look but never been refused yet. On one occasion the till person said i could see it was old and strange looking so it was probably ok. 😂 I think they were talking about the car🤣
Ironically, I had to fuel the Renault 11 yesterday, but it had a flat battery 🔋 😢, so slapped it on charge, and, as it was going to need fuel, rode to tesco with a 25Ltr steel fuel can, " No, you can have fuel, but please move your ebike away from the pumps, we don't trust it!!!" ⛽ 🚲 🔋 🔥
That is kinda a good point.
Well I can understand that! EVs are bad enough, but apparently ebikes and the like often use rather dodgy Lithium batteries, and account for a lot of fires which are really difficult to put out.
@@joelmartin2549 granted,but while Ebiking my way back, I kept thinking 🤔 next to me, on the other pump, was a '22 Hybrid range rover, his lithium battery 🔋 🔋 is HUGE, and, like the Ebike, is known to spontaneously erupt like a volcano too..... so, will they get banned soon too?
I work for BP in Australia we dont have that policy and even if we did we have ways around for example if I thought you where dodgy I can just ask you too pre pay for your fuel. or we have an app over here called bpme which allows you too authorize the pump and pay for fuel in that app if you have a card linked.
I love it went a jobsworth uses the Health and Safety mantra. Those three words that are never allowed to be questioned.
Yep, like using a mobile phone while filling up 🙄🙄 I understand the no smoking rule, that's fair, yet mobile phones not allowed!
It is possibly because somebody has deemed it an insurance risk without actually understanding Health & Safety.
@@khalidacosta71330 mobile phone incidents ever = must be dangerous
I mean if she could get fired for doing the sane thing...
It's all on camera, would you risk your job over this?
Blame BP corporate
It's dripping petrol and petrol vapour directly on and above a hot engine ffs. Can't your hazelnut sized brain work out the problem?
I had that insanity from BP with my Land Rover (filler under the driver's seat...).
This "elfin safety" nonsense has gone too far & BP corporate need to sort their $**t.
Buy Shell.
It's not "elfin safety nonsense"; we are required to adhere to the rule that we must see that the nozzle is in the filler before authorising. What we NEED is a customer service attitude that sends a staff member out to check visually, so the pump can be authorised. That's what we do; and I've been sent multiple times. This is what the people failed to do in the video; they stood on the rule about being able to see the nozzle/filler, distorted it to suit their purpose with a cowpat justification, and then refused to look for a workaround. It would never have happened at our place; maybe THAT'S why we've been voted the BP Store of the Year...
I had a station in the US call the cops on me for facing the wrong way at the pumps. This station had a policy that you were only allowed to pull in with the pumps on the passenger side, which is genius because all US domestic cars have the filler neck on the driver side. Well I just ignored the sign because otherwise there'd be no way to reach my fuel tank, and continued ignoring them when they came out screaming at me about it.
id love to be that cop id charge them with false police reports
It's not a boot, it's your engine compartment, your boots in the front..
If you have an odd couple of hours to spare you could sit at a pump waiting for authorization, taking up valuable forecourt space.
@kevinbrookes6550
> If you have an odd couple of hours to spare you could sit at a pump waiting for authorization,
> taking up valuable forecourt space.
Having first made absolutely certain that there is no limit to the time you are allowed to remain there, because in an awful lot of garages there is, it's monitored by ANPR cameras and enforced by a parking management company, and if you stay too long, you will get a parking charge from them. Provided the signage was all OK you really would have entered into a legally binding agreement with the PMC that if you stayed for more than X minutes you would pay them £Y.
In a situation like that you would have zero chance that the garage operator would intervene on your behalf to get the parking charge notice cancelled, and anybody who blusters on about not paying it is pi~~ing into the wind.
That's akin to a spoilt child stamping his feet and sulking because he isn't getting his way.
would cost them a fortune!
Tongue in cheek guys, tongue in cheek.
It’s not your boot as it’s a rear engine, you don’t have a boot, you have a frunk.
You mean a froot.
@@adogmcdizzleexactly Trunks are what you wear when swimming, not somewhere to hide your Crown Jewels 🙈
It's a fuel tank cover - that happens to extend over the engine!
Yep. British English 😊 @@adogmcdizzle
That's American English 😂
I must confess that BP has once again succeeded in the noble art of filling its management with incompetent decision makers. It must be an absolute miracle that companies like this survive at all.
I assume that, as usual, it is about new acquisitions of snot puppies and upstarts with their heads under their arms.
Perhaps it would be more appropriate to let such people start as toilet cleaners at the company's petrol stations and then slowly rise up the career ladder with firmness and life experience.
No wonder there is a note in my owners manual that says "Don't use BP fuel!" (I'm Ohioan. Taking over a 1993 Ford Escort LX Wagon)
Nice day for classic car meet on a BP forcourt waiting to buy fuel
I used to go to Sainsburys and always stand with the nozzle in my hand waiting for the display to reset to all 000's after a garage once tried to make me pay for the previous persons fuel but Sainsburys won't authorize the pump unless the nozzle is stuck in the filler hole with the last person's price on the pump. Health and safety gone over the top.
Some fuel pump displays automatically reset I wonder how Sainsburys would handle that?
BP are absolutely right. The design of this thing is absolutely wrong & I know of no other car that has the fuel filler in the same compartment as the engine. Even my 1931 Ford A Model has the filler cap in front of the windscreen away from the engine. I've owned cars from 1931 to 2003 here in Australia & never seen the stupidity of Renault in any other car, absolute shite!
Bp really shouldnt worry about what the consumer does, their safety record is on par with wearing a fall harness but not hooking it up
I just love the politeness. I would have been raging and screaming where I live. That’s the norm.
Policies can be arbitrary and this incident is definitely eye opening, I would have asked for a copy of their policy, no doubt they would say to that 'it's online' as they sounded as though they had no interest in serving you and it was easier to simply refuse service 'because it's policy', which is order following mentality right there.
I bet she refused to activate the pumps for a single unmasked customer alone on a forecourt in 2020-2021 as well, seems like the type!
Never underestimate the BS from and English person with a gram of authority, goes right to their heads.
@OsellaSquadraCorse why are conspiracy nonces still moaning about lock down. Move on, get over it you weirdo 😂😂😂