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@@metallicablackend484 Thank you for the comment and support and all the way from Sweden is awesome!!!!!!!!! The Spyders are semi-automatic unless you order it in a manual. The Rykers are the only ones that are fully automatic. You do press the "+" to shift up. You do not have to shift down unless you want to and then you simply press the "-". It is veryy easy yo get use to and would not worry if you have a concern for shifting, it is extremely easy to use and is not difficult at all.
l love that the spyder shifts down by its self, I very seldom have to use the brake when I'm coming up to a stop sign or in slow traffic, I love your videos, I've learned so much from them, thanks for posting...😊
@@spyderlady Thank you for watching and glad your liking the videos!! I like the downshifting as well. The semi-automatic keeps you involved in the shifting nicely. I hope they dont go with the full automatic like the Ryker in the future. That was the one thing i hated the most about the ryker was that you werent involved at all in the shifting. It made the ride boring!
Awesome.. didn't realize you cannot over shift. Very helpful info. Trying to learn as much as I can over the next few weeks till my F3 is delivered. It was picked up from the dealer last week so it's on the way :)
Thanks for the comment! Glad to hear the bike is on the way and you will soon have it. It is very easy to drive and shift. The weirdest part for me when I started riding was not avoiding obstacles and the way you lean in curves, very different from two wheels!
Thank you for the support and watching! I always worry that I left this or that out so thank you for the feedback. I enjoyed making this and there steering video because it was what i was interested in seeing when i was looking.
Thank you for watching! The Spyder is an awesome motorcycle and a lot of fun. Whether a newbie or experienced rider there are a lot of things that make the Spyder unique. Your are doing the smart thing in learning about everything. Glad the video helped!
I don't see the shifting on a Spyder as unfortunate. It gives a sense of shifting, somewhat similar to my 2 wheel. Especially, down-shifting. Makes riding a little more interesting.
Your welcome and we all did at first even if others wont admit it!!!! Also dont worry if it sounds loud when shifting in and out of reverse. Everone notices the "clunk" and it sounds bad but isnt! Thank you for watching! Stay safe and ride happy!
Thank you very much for the compliment and supporting the channel. Not all videos are great but i give them 100% effort!!! Hope you enjoy the others as well!
Thank you for the support and comment. I would love to and have hopes in the future to do videos using other Spyders. Unfortunately due to limited access to Spyders and also due to Covid it has set back a lot of my plans for this. If I have an opportunity in the future I will be sure to add that as a video as well!
Thank you. I do have plans for more videos like this plus one or two every now and then that are hopefully just fun or entertaining. Thanks for the feed back!
Great informative video indeed. So I like the bigger size of the f3 over the Ryker, but, I love that the Ryker is fully auto. To be that close to fully auto, I don’t see why I just wouldn’t go with the Ryker. Especially the Rally.
The difference between the Ryker and F3 is mainly comfort, quality, power and two up riding. If you want to ride long trips and have a passenger sometimes - Spyder wins on that. If you are looking to save some money, Ryker Wins. Ryker is more nimble and quicker on take off, but Spyder is more powerful and faster in the end. There are good and bad points to each, it all comes down to personal preference. Which ever route you take you will be happy with. Think about your needs when deciding.
@@a.d.c7941 Thank you for the Sub and support! The Ryker can be used for long trips but endurance really depends on the rider. You can also buy aftermarket seats that help with comfort. 4 hours should not be a problem for driver, but I would say no for a passenger. It is not the same level of comfort as the Spyders. The newer Rykers are improving though. I suggest if you can take a test ride or sign up for the 2022 Can-Am experience if you are able to. Here is the video talking about how to sign up: czcams.com/video/zKxIDBQPTyE/video.html They take you on about an hour ride and they have different models to ride. Hope you can sign up and this helps.
@@MOABMAN I have been riding 2 wheels since I was 14 and stepping down from a HD/CVO/Street Glide and considering , the SEA to Sky CanAm, it is a nice piece of machine, plus it is trike and much less stress on riding one. What do you think about the Sea to Sky. Thanks for the advise.
@@peterjohnporrata4866 It is the top of the line Can-Am Spyder. For touring and comfort, you cant beat it. If you can afford it, it is the best model you can buy. The storage on them are unbelievable for a motorcycle. Me personally, i did not like the previous green color on it. I like the 2022 options and colors the best. I recommend trying it out first because it is different than the 2 wheel motorcycles and even the old Trikes with 2 in the back. I would love to have one in the future, just no way to afford it now. Hope you get one if you are able to, I dont think you will regret it. Thanks for the comments and support too!
Hello I enjoy the videos and the help you given to me. Do you have a video showing and explaint what to do if a ride gets a flat tire and how to fix the flat tire?? Keep up the videos I learn a lot about my F3 2021 Spyder. Going to Spyder Quest 2023 in Sept. Have a great ride
Thank you! In the "Learning the Basics" section on my channel there is a video for that. czcams.com/video/k6ydWX4T_0E/video.htmlsi=N95zK0Si43yCGc78 Hope it helps.
Hello MOABMAN Can you do a Video showing how to use all the features Like radio/Display/heat seats/ lights/ adjusting suspension and foot pegs for those who just purchased a new 2021 F3 Limited.
Hello Michael. Thank you for the support. I will do a video for the controls, but can't promise when it will be out right now. I have 2 videos in the works. I can help you out on the other things now hopefully. For the foot pegs this video may help: czcams.com/video/nQQo5ByhEN4/video.html it is one of my first so sorry about the editing. For the suspension, page 59 in your manual talks about it. It is super hard right now for me to get access to a spyder with everything going on, so I can not physically do a video on it. I hope this helps and as soon as I can get access to other Spyders i will make sure to do a video on this. Thank you again for the support and I will do what I can to get the video on the controls as soon as I can
The Rykers are good for short trips and playing around. They are cheaper and feel a little different than the Spyder. I personally take the Spyder everywhere. My choice is Spyder over Ryker even for short trips. I may eventually get one (the Rally) just so I can do dirt road and a light off-roading in it and not feel bad if I ding it up. Supposedly that was one of the benefits of the Rally but I personally have not had the chance to ride it that way so cant speak to that. I like the looks of some of them and like the cost point as well. But if your question was more along the lines of, if I had a choice of one over the other and that was the only one I was going to own, then with no hesitation would pick the Spyder line. Way better of a ride, quality, comfort, power, and fun over the Ryker.
Yes, as long as it is a paddle shifter/Semi-automatic and not manual. This applies to the RT models as well. Depending on how old the motorcycle is, all newer F3 models will have same engine, transmission, etc. The storage and "extras" will only change. Congrats on the new ride, and thanks for watching!
This is great for us future newbies to riding. Question? when upshifting gears, to you keep throttling up at the shift or do you just lay off the throttle when shifting? For someone like me who will be new to riding, I think the eco mode could be of great help when it comes to changing gears until we get the feel of the bike and changing gears becomes second nature.
Hello Stevie, thanks for the comment and support! You do not have to let off the throttle and it is better if you don't. You maintain the throttle speed when shifting and can even be increasing speed when doing so. The shifting for the Spyder is awesome and doesn't take long to get the hang of. Using the eco mode will help in showing you the best time to shift for good gas mileage, but is not good for going fast or passing a vehicle. Any shifting between 4000 to 6500 RPM is good to get use to when not in ECO. Try not to train yourself if your new to riding a motorcycle on a bad habit of looking down to rely on shifting. Use ECO as a reference first, but train yourself to feel the bike. This way you take your eyes off the road less. A split second can change your life if your not careful. Welcome to the Spyder family, you will love it! Stay safe and ride happy.
@@MOABMAN Thank you for that advice! That's my worry is looking down because in a car you can get away with that but on a bike, that could be trouble, especially on the highway as that could spell trouble. It sounds like when it comes to changing gears (for a new rider) it's all about confidence and feel and that's the part you have to get used to and once that is set you're good to go. I am really looking forward to getting the Can-Am Spyder and being in the open air as I mention, for me the biggest worry is gear changing as I have never ridden a motorcyle of any sorts but your video is the best one I saw in terms of teaching gear changing on the Can Am and it's helpful but as with everything it's just getting reps on your own to build the confidence. Thanks again!!!
@@steviem5279 The Spyder has removed all that fear for you, trust me. It is easy to shift. I do recommend that you check into taking a 3 wheel course. This would be the best thing for you to do to be safe. This will help you feel more confident about riding to.
That was one thing i wish i would have covered better than i did, so thank you for asking. You do not let off the throttle and it is better that you dont. For me i just keep it at where i am when i shift. What i mean by that is i dont let off or give it gas, just maintain the current throttle position. If you let off the throttle it will make a louder than usual "clunk" noise and jerk you a little bit, that has been my experience on different models as well.
Great explanation! I was wondering if you always have to look at your rpms to tell when to shift or overtime you can just tell? Like Does the bike feel different and that’s when you know to shift or you just kinda know after awhile.
You quickly get use to the feel and sound of the bike. The only time I look at RPMs are when I am pushing the bike for speed and want to get every bit of power I can out of it. Even then you can feel it.
@@charliblaze718 Thank you for the comment and support! You will like it and it is a lot of fun. If you never rode a motorcycle before, don't worry, the Spyder is fairly easy to ride. You still need to be careful and not forget that it IS a motorcycle and your the bumper!!! Stay safe and ride happy!
Thank you for watching and your gonna love the Spyder. Just like in a car, it helps to down shift when passing depending on situation. Going to a lower gear will give you higher rpms than the gear you are in and this will improve speed a lot. For example if you are in 5th gear and your RPM is at 2 and your trying to pass quickly it will take you longer than if you shift into fourth gear where your RPMs might be sitting at 4-5 and your engine will be quicker in response. The higher the RPMs the more torque and hp you will have available to use. You never want to shift to a higher gear and lower RPM when passing. Hope this video will help you some!
Video helped me alot. I bought a spyder rt 2015 last august not knowing the first thing about riding. Im 61yrs old and this May im taking a class to get my endorsement. I am totally new to the bike world i have alot of friends that ride but i never have. Ive been watching alot of videos and i just couldn't figure out when to shift or how to really shift.And i had no idea you shift down to pass then shift up. Thats confusing to me. Can i ask you to explain that to me alittle more or if you have another video i could watch. Thanks so very much.
Thank you for watching and glad this video helped. Think of the passing part just like a car does. When you step on the gas real hard to pass a car, if your in an automatic it will shift down and then you RPM's will go higher and you can go faster. So lets go to shifting the Spyder...... If you are in 6 gear and your RPMs are around 2000, when you twist the throttle a lot to pass a car, it will take a while before your power and RPMs get to a fast speed. So if you are in 6 gear and 2000 rpms and want to pass, then it is best to shift to 5th or 4th gear (down). Your RPMs will increase and you will have more power for passing quicker. Almost all vehicles accelerate faster at higher rpms. Hope this makes sense and helps. If not, just comment back and i will be glad to help, emailing is ok as well if you feel uncomfortable commenting something. moab.man@yahoo.com I hope this is what you were asking about as well.
I have watched alot of your videos and have learned alot. I am taking my class next week for my license. But i have a very silly question im sure you will think. To slow down taking corners you use the throttle and then to speed back up you use the trottle correct? No breaks? I'm trying to learn all i can before the class as ive never riden a bike in my life i wear ankle braces...i have a 2015 Spyder RT thats been sitting all winter waiting for me to ride. And im anxious lol soon to be 62yrs old.
Not a silly question at all and thanks for the comment. First, dont be nervous about the class and what you think that you dont know. That is what they are there for and ask all you can. You will learn a lot and be confident to ride when done. You will "roll" off the throttle on certain curves and use brakes on others. The more you ride the more comfortable you will get at this. You need to judge before going into a curve and start making the adjustment. Sometimes you will only need to let off the throttle and steer into the curve. For sharp turns or curves, yes you need to brake a little before going into it. You dont want to slam on brakes in the middle of turning or curves. Coming out of a curve you then start giving gas again. They will talk about this in better detail in the class so dont worry!! Thanks for comment and support
@@MOABMAN Thank you so much i guess its close to like driving a car. Everyone has told me not to worry about taking this class its just something totally new to me. I really appreciate your help and your videos. I maybe asking more questions soon lol. Thank you again have a wonderful day.
@@sallyhall-fj3yp you are welcome and yes it is like using a car in curves (only speed wise). Go in to the class with no worries so you learn easier. You are more than welcome to email if you want to ask a bunch of questions. moab.man@yahoo.com
I have one question when you're sifting up is up in Eco mode or maybe the regular mode when you shift do you have to let go of the throttle like you would if you were shifting with your foot do you understand what I'm saying In other words do you have to let go of the gas shift the gear and then give it more gas Like you would shift with your foot
I do understand what your saying and use to ride two wheel so know what you mean. Good question too. The semi-automatic spyder allows you to stay on the throttle while shifting at any speed. It is the same for any mode your in- ECO, Normal, or Sport. You can order a manual on them, but I have to be honest... The more I use the paddle shifter the more I like it. The brake will probably be the awkward thing for you to get use to. It is on your right foot and controls all wheels simultaneously, and it stops the bike quickly.
Hi there and thanks a lot for your video! I have 2 questions: 1.- After turning off the engine with the killi switch, can I turn it back again while still moving and if so does it starts in neutral? 2.- What if I leave the gear switch “+” pressed while accelerating? Thank you!
Great questions and thanks for comments! 1. Yes you can turn it right back on while motor is running. It stays in same gear and acts like your never turned it off. I have personally done this by accident several times, and same results every time. Good question! 2. Leaving the + pressed will not shift and I do not recommend doing this and getting in that habit. The computer system for the Spyder is very good. If it sees that the button remains pressed and your giving it gas and what not, it will trigger an error code or send it into limp mode. You then have to go to dealer to reset ECU and codes. For me I just tap the button and then remove thumb. Thanks and hope this helped. I will be glad to answer any questions you have if I have the knowledge to answer. If I dont know I will be glad to help find out as well. Stay safe and ride happy! PS... Love the icon
@@MOABMAN Thanks man, I've been thinking about becoming Spyder Ryder but here in Spain you can't test any Spyder at the dealers so I still have several questions about it. It is really a pity that they don't have any test circuit here so I guess I'll have to wait until my next trip to the States for doing that. thank you again for your answers. By the way, I'm thinking about a 2021 F3-S NOT the Special Series (with color is everything but attractive to me) Any idea where to find reviews about this model? All I've found has been about the F3-Special Series :(
@@Raffgon I am sorry to hear you cant test drive one. Some places here won't either because of Covid. I have 2 videos out that may help answer your questions. The first one talks about the differences in all 2021 models: czcams.com/video/5g_TMkzGieQ/video.html This one reviews my F3S which is basically the same but does not have the digital display. They did not change anything other than the digital display so it is the same motorcycle, engine and all: czcams.com/video/_ZbjerqAlvA/video.html I hope these help you, and any questions you have i'll be glad to help you. You are more than welcome to send email as well to moab.man@yahoo.com
@@MOABMAN Thanks again... That was a very useful comparison you did! I hope I would be able to get an F3-S sooner than later. Here in Europe prices are just CRAZY (F3-S cost 30,000 USD) and they are not importing all colors from other models... and F3-T that is the model I would love to had well.. it just doesn´t exist here. In the other hand I really don't like those colors neither... that gray from the F3-SS or that ugly pale blue? no sir, I'm not paying money for that at all!!
@@Raffgon Agree about the colors they have. 30,000 is about how much an RT is here. The F3S is about 20-25 here. Right now it is a little hard to get a Spyder in the US too. The plant that makes them was shut down because of Covid for a while. The demand for the Spyder is more than they can produce right now. Hopefully they will get caught up and then you will get some more there. Thanks for the comments and support! I believe you are the first I've commented with from Spain.
Hi great video how's the passing power let's say you're going 65 70 on the freeway will a bike over work? Just curious based on my area New Jersey Turnpike😩😖. Right now I am riding 2015 Victory Hammer great passing power comfortable but I'm really considering the can am. Love the safety feature
Thanks and good question so i hope i can answer in a way that helps you. It has good power. 1330cc engine 115hp. At 65 or 70 you just down shift a gear or two (do not be in Eco mode) and your easily doing 90 before you know it. My commute to work is 130 miles, on the way to work it is up hill. Most of the time if your not doing 80 or 90 you will get run over and i promise to you that the speed i just said is not an exaggeration you really have to stay at 80 or 90. Unbelievably there is not a lot of vibration or wobble either at that speed. The winds in this area are known to overturn tractor trailers and on the Spyder F3 it doesnt seem to care. My helmet is blown more than the bike is. As long as you have it in the right gear on the F3 the passing is not an issue, promise. The bike tops out around 120 but still feels like there is more to go. My wife and i very comfortably rode up a steep hill (about 3 miles)on the interstate and we did 65 to 70 very easily with 2 people. I am referencing the 2018 up Spyder F3's. If you get a 900+- cc engine (years 2016 and older RS models) you may be really dissapointed. I wouldnt recommend a ryker for those speeds and that type of interstate driving. Just so you know i am originally from the East coast so i have ridden the Jersey turnpike and in Atlanta traffic too, so i know where you are coming from with rhat question. Hope this helped. Thanks for the comment and support!
How does the F3 feel going longer distances? Im debating between the F3 and RT... I like the f3 because it looks sporty. But from the looks of things, the RT looks better for long distance especially with the footboard.
The RT is for touring and long distances. More storage and features that make a huge difference. I did not like that you can not lengthen the brake linkage on the RT though. I find it a little short for me. For 2 people you will be more comfortable on the RT. My wife and I have been on the F3 for a 10 hour trip before and we're OK in comfort but not the same as an RT. Plus we were limited on what we could take as well. If the main reason of owning it will be for long trips I would say the RT is the best for you. If you are by yourself riding and just want day trips for a couple hours then the F3 would work for you. Both are a comfortable ride either way. I plan in about a month to have 2 videos coming out talking about the Ryker on one and RT on the other and comparing them to the Spyder F3. I'm working a lot on it now.
@@MOABMAN 10 hour trip? That's awesome! Yes I plan on riding around town and traveling no more than 4-6 hours . I really love how the F3 looks in comparison. I understand the storage compacity maybe a little annoying, but for those type of trips I would probably just drive my car instead. Does not having the windshield on f3 bother you? That's another concern I have. Will stuff be flying in my face without the windshield?
Forgot to say thank you for the comment and support earlier, so thank you!!!! I love the wind and hate windshields. I am impressed with the RT windshield but absolutely hate the F3 and especially the Ryker ones. The one on the Ryker from BRP distorted the road a whole lot where it curves. I find myself fighting, leaning or looking "around" the windshield to see a non distorted drive rather than enjoying a ride but that is just me. I only buy top end helmets where noise and wind is minimal and bugs do happen to hit it, that is part of riding. I grew up with dirt bikes, jet skis, 4 and 3 wheelers and open face helmets as well so kinda used to the wind. Here in California it gets 100 degrees so wind is good on the helmet and the windshield makes a helmet hotter because no wind getting to the vents. They are convenient to have in rain and cold weather though. It sounds like the F3 will be a good fit for your needs. Check out my can-am experience video (not the newest one but the one put out about a month or 2 ago) and see about signing up for a test ride. That will give you a good chance to really see the difference.
Its so sad they killed off the manual 6 speed.. I have ridden motorcycles for a couple of years , and my car is a full manual also .. I guess i will have to try and see....
I thought the same way at first, and I do love manual shifting as well (my jeep is manual), but the more I use the paddle shifter the more I am starting to get swayed. It still allows you to be some part of the shifting and in control. You can get it in manual shifting on the Spyders through 2021, I am not sure but should be able to on the 2022 as well. Do try the paddle shifter before buying one with manual. I am happy now that I got the semi-automatic instead of manual and would do the the same for my next one as well. Never thought I would be saying that! The best advice I can give you is clear your thoughts of motorcycle comparison from the 2 wheel riding and think of it more as an advancement in technology and engineering for a motorcycle when you ride one. The RT is such an improvement to me from the old trikes and the "Goldwing" style motorcycles of today if you go that route.
Good question! No it does not override the nanny at all. The bike still maintains the nanny features. The Pedal Commander strictly just involves how quickly the bike responds to you twisting the throttle. I believe there are only 2 years that you can override the nanny on the f3s by pushing a sequence of buttons on the left handle controls. ( I think 2016 and 2017 ). Are you wanting the nanny off?
@@MOABMAN No, I was just curious. It would be nice to get a better throttle response down low though. I have a 2020 RTL and we are not lightweights, and if you're on an uphill start from lights or an intersection it would be nice to have that little bit more punch.
@@brettnaysmith3949 It does make a huge difference. My setting that I like is city +2. It gives me a quicker throttle response that I feel the bike should have. On the bigger RT models I have noticed people saying that they like it in sport better. Makes sense because it is heavier. It still shows $299 for the price on slingmods. It is an easy install too. If you get one, I'd love to hear your thoughts about it. Your more than welcome to email at moab.man@yahoo.com or just comment if you want to share your thoughts.
For best gas mileage between 3 to 4K RPM's, for normal riding around 5k, and redline it when haulin butt! Mine shifts the best at 4k and i have found that true for every model Spyder I have rode. I do show it a little in the video as well.
It is a aftermarket add on that allows you to adjust the throttle response for a quicker or slower throttle response. It is more useful for bigger RT models that are slow to respond I have a review on it here is the link: czcams.com/video/6aL74v0HIac/video.htmlsi=cwSIbfLoJ9-b9Gch Thanks for watching and the comment
Thank you for that. It is hard to entertain and educate/inform/help at the same time. Every video i aim for a new goal so thanks for support and comments!
You do not have to release or slow down on the throttle. It is better to maintain the same throttle i have found unless i am passing. Thanks for watching and hope this helped you
That is correct. You can get the Spyder in Semi-Automatic or Manual but not fully automatic. The Ryker is fully automatic but no other options as of now.
@@MOABMAN All Spyders are semiautomatic now exclusively. Manual is no longer an option on the current year models. Just an FYI for everyone just seeing this video and looking for a new bike.
@@la_old_salt2241 Thanks for the comment and support! You are correct, in 2023 it is semi-automatic only. I really hope they dont go fully automatic on the Spyder. If so that is the end for me! I like being a part of the shifting process
Whether a new rider or a seasoned rider, I hope there is something in here for everyone. If you liked the video and found it helpful, please leave it a thumbs up and subscribe if you haven't already. Doing so will help make future videos possible! Thank you for the support and all comments!
Is it fully automatic? No need to press + or -. Love from Sweden.
@@metallicablackend484 Thank you for the comment and support and all the way from Sweden is awesome!!!!!!!!! The Spyders are semi-automatic unless you order it in a manual. The Rykers are the only ones that are fully automatic. You do press the "+" to shift up. You do not have to shift down unless you want to and then you simply press the "-". It is veryy easy yo get use to and would not worry if you have a concern for shifting, it is extremely easy to use and is not difficult at all.
l love that the spyder shifts down by its self, I very seldom have to use the brake when I'm coming up to a stop sign or in slow traffic, I love your videos, I've learned so much from them, thanks for posting...😊
@@spyderlady Thank you for watching and glad your liking the videos!!
I like the downshifting as well. The semi-automatic keeps you involved in the shifting nicely. I hope they dont go with the full automatic like the Ryker in the future. That was the one thing i hated the most about the ryker was that you werent involved at all in the shifting. It made the ride boring!
Awesome.. didn't realize you cannot over shift. Very helpful info. Trying to learn as much as I can over the next few weeks till my F3 is delivered. It was picked up from the dealer last week so it's on the way :)
Thanks for the comment! Glad to hear the bike is on the way and you will soon have it. It is very easy to drive and shift. The weirdest part for me when I started riding was not avoiding obstacles and the way you lean in curves, very different from two wheels!
I really appreciate your tutorials. You cover all the important details and provide the best information. Thank you !!
Thank you for the support and watching! I always worry that I left this or that out so thank you for the feedback. I enjoyed making this and there steering video because it was what i was interested in seeing when i was looking.
Nice demo! I sold cars for 20 years and was always the king of the Demo so I know what a good one is. 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Thank you for that! Reverse is a problem for a lot of people at first, so I hope this will be of help to someone.
I’m sure it will. You did a great demo, as a matter of fact I’m gonna share this with my buddy.
Appreciate your sharing and the nice comment!! I have many projects in the works to share so hope you enjoy!
Thanks for clearing up the whole shifting thing.
We all have had the going into reverse problem! Glad this helped, i tried to cover everything the best i could.
Great video. Covers practical procedures and terrific commentary.
Thank you! I tried to cover as much as i could think of.
Thanks for posting your series. It’s been a good review for a newbie like myself. Keep them coming.
Thank you for watching! The Spyder is an awesome motorcycle and a lot of fun. Whether a newbie or experienced rider there are a lot of things that make the Spyder unique. Your are doing the smart thing in learning about everything. Glad the video helped!
Thank u for all you do in updating and sharing all information about and putting all different stuff on the bike that helps a lot
Appreciate that! I try my best to cover everything so that means a lot,
Please keep the help on the F3 and the help on how to to play by play as well all of that helps a lot so please keep doing what you do
@@nitafibbs2518 Thank you for all the Support!!! I promise there will be more videos to come!
I don't see the shifting on a Spyder as unfortunate. It gives a sense of shifting, somewhat similar to my 2 wheel. Especially, down-shifting. Makes riding a little more interesting.
I am so glad Spyder kept the paddle shifter so far. I was worried that they would get rid of it because of the Ryker.
Thanks for watching and comment!
Also thank u for the updates on the F3 setting
Thanks for this. I was having a bit of a problem getting into reverse
Your welcome and we all did at first even if others wont admit it!!!!
Also dont worry if it sounds loud when shifting in and out of reverse. Everone notices the "clunk" and it sounds bad but isnt!
Thank you for watching! Stay safe and ride happy!
Thanks for the tutorials. Saw u on 118WB in SV the other morning. :)
It has been a nice week to ride! Ended up taking an 8 hour drive that day around Hollywood and will put out a video soon on 2 places we went thru
Thanks for the video was very informative. I am new to Can Am's.
Thank you for watching! Welcome to the Can-Am Family, they are a lot of fun.
EXCELLENT VIDEO😊
Thank you. I am pretty proud of how this one turned out.
Great video tutorial. You may be #1, my friend! Liked and subbed now!
Thank you very much for the compliment and supporting the channel. Not all videos are great but i give them 100% effort!!! Hope you enjoy the others as well!
Excellent video, thanks!!!!
Your welcome and hope it helped with any questions you had!
Good video, also nice post production work
Thank you!! I hope im getting better as time goes on so hearing that is appreciated!
You should do one on a actual manual spyder. Great video 👍
Thank you for the support and comment. I would love to and have hopes in the future to do videos using other Spyders. Unfortunately due to limited access to Spyders and also due to Covid it has set back a lot of my plans for this. If I have an opportunity in the future I will be sure to add that as a video as well!
good info
Thank you. I do have plans for more videos like this plus one or two every now and then that are hopefully just fun or entertaining. Thanks for the feed back!
Great informative video indeed. So I like the bigger size of the f3 over the Ryker, but, I love that the Ryker is fully auto. To be that close to fully auto, I don’t see why I just wouldn’t go with the Ryker. Especially the Rally.
The difference between the Ryker and F3 is mainly comfort, quality, power and two up riding. If you want to ride long trips and have a passenger sometimes - Spyder wins on that. If you are looking to save some money, Ryker Wins. Ryker is more nimble and quicker on take off, but Spyder is more powerful and faster in the end. There are good and bad points to each, it all comes down to personal preference. Which ever route you take you will be happy with. Think about your needs when deciding.
@@MOABMAN Thank you so much. So can the Ryker Rally be used for decent travel? Like a 4 hr drive? I subscribed by the way.
@@a.d.c7941 Thank you for the Sub and support! The Ryker can be used for long trips but endurance really depends on the rider. You can also buy aftermarket seats that help with comfort. 4 hours should not be a problem for driver, but I would say no for a passenger. It is not the same level of comfort as the Spyders. The newer Rykers are improving though.
I suggest if you can take a test ride or sign up for the 2022 Can-Am experience if you are able to. Here is the video talking about how to sign up:
czcams.com/video/zKxIDBQPTyE/video.html
They take you on about an hour ride and they have different models to ride. Hope you can sign up and this helps.
@@MOABMAN thank you!! I am going to look into the can am experience. Thank u so much!
Thank you
Thank you as well for watching! Hope this helped!
Very well stated...
Thank you! They are a lot of fun and well made
@@MOABMAN I have been riding 2 wheels since I was 14 and stepping down from a HD/CVO/Street Glide and considering , the SEA to Sky CanAm, it is a nice piece of machine, plus it is trike and much less stress on riding one. What do you think about the Sea to Sky. Thanks for the advise.
@@peterjohnporrata4866 It is the top of the line Can-Am Spyder. For touring and comfort, you cant beat it. If you can afford it, it is the best model you can buy. The storage on them are unbelievable for a motorcycle. Me personally, i did not like the previous green color on it. I like the 2022 options and colors the best. I recommend trying it out first because it is different than the 2 wheel motorcycles and even the old Trikes with 2 in the back.
I would love to have one in the future, just no way to afford it now.
Hope you get one if you are able to, I dont think you will regret it.
Thanks for the comments and support too!
@@MOABMAN thank you so much. I am considering the 2022, for I didn’t like the green color either.
@@MOABMAN will keep you posted on what I decided to do.
Hello I enjoy the videos and the help you given to me. Do you have a video showing and explaint what to do if a ride gets a flat tire and how to fix the flat tire?? Keep up the videos I learn a lot about my F3 2021 Spyder. Going to Spyder Quest 2023 in Sept. Have a great ride
Thank you! In the "Learning the Basics" section on my channel there is a video for that.
czcams.com/video/k6ydWX4T_0E/video.htmlsi=N95zK0Si43yCGc78
Hope it helps.
Are you going to do a video about Flat tire and what to do?@@MOABMAN
@@MichaelBrown-np1kc here is a link for how to plug a tire. Hope this helps
czcams.com/video/k6ydWX4T_0E/video.htmlsi=fJAtoVLCIa8ClnkW
Hello MOABMAN Can you do a Video showing how to use all the features Like radio/Display/heat seats/ lights/ adjusting suspension and foot pegs for those who just purchased a new 2021 F3 Limited.
Hello Michael. Thank you for the support. I will do a video for the controls, but can't promise when it will be out right now. I have 2 videos in the works. I can help you out on the other things now hopefully.
For the foot pegs this video may help: czcams.com/video/nQQo5ByhEN4/video.html
it is one of my first so sorry about the editing.
For the suspension, page 59 in your manual talks about it. It is super hard right now for me to get access to a spyder with everything going on, so I can not physically do a video on it. I hope this helps and as soon as I can get access to other Spyders i will make sure to do a video on this.
Thank you again for the support and I will do what I can to get the video on the controls as soon as I can
What are your feeling about the Ryker? As a local rider, quick grab and go.. for someone who already has an F3.
The Rykers are good for short trips and playing around. They are cheaper and feel a little different than the Spyder. I personally take the Spyder everywhere. My choice is Spyder over Ryker even for short trips. I may eventually get one (the Rally) just so I can do dirt road and a light off-roading in it and not feel bad if I ding it up. Supposedly that was one of the benefits of the Rally but I personally have not had the chance to ride it that way so cant speak to that. I like the looks of some of them and like the cost point as well. But if your question was more along the lines of, if I had a choice of one over the other and that was the only one I was going to own, then with no hesitation would pick the Spyder line. Way better of a ride, quality, comfort, power, and fun over the Ryker.
Just got an F3 today pearl white4k mikes do this steps apply to an F 3? Oh sorry it’s an f3 Ltd does this apply to it
Yes, as long as it is a paddle shifter/Semi-automatic and not manual. This applies to the RT models as well. Depending on how old the motorcycle is, all newer F3 models will have same engine, transmission, etc. The storage and "extras" will only change. Congrats on the new ride, and thanks for watching!
This is great for us future newbies to riding. Question? when upshifting gears, to you keep throttling up at the shift or do you just lay off the throttle when shifting? For someone like me who will be new to riding, I think the eco mode could be of great help when it comes to changing gears until we get the feel of the bike and changing gears becomes second nature.
Hello Stevie, thanks for the comment and support! You do not have to let off the throttle and it is better if you don't. You maintain the throttle speed when shifting and can even be increasing speed when doing so. The shifting for the Spyder is awesome and doesn't take long to get the hang of. Using the eco mode will help in showing you the best time to shift for good gas mileage, but is not good for going fast or passing a vehicle. Any shifting between 4000 to 6500 RPM is good to get use to when not in ECO. Try not to train yourself if your new to riding a motorcycle on a bad habit of looking down to rely on shifting. Use ECO as a reference first, but train yourself to feel the bike. This way you take your eyes off the road less. A split second can change your life if your not careful. Welcome to the Spyder family, you will love it! Stay safe and ride happy.
@@MOABMAN Thank you for that advice! That's my worry is looking down because in a car you can get away with that but on a bike, that could be trouble, especially on the highway as that could spell trouble. It sounds like when it comes to changing gears (for a new rider) it's all about confidence and feel and that's the part you have to get used to and once that is set you're good to go. I am really looking forward to getting the Can-Am Spyder and being in the open air as I mention, for me the biggest worry is gear changing as I have never ridden a motorcyle of any sorts but your video is the best one I saw in terms of teaching gear changing on the Can Am and it's helpful but as with everything it's just getting reps on your own to build the confidence. Thanks again!!!
@@steviem5279 The Spyder has removed all that fear for you, trust me. It is easy to shift. I do recommend that you check into taking a 3 wheel course. This would be the best thing for you to do to be safe. This will help you feel more confident about riding to.
@@MOABMAN I will definitely do that! Thanks again!!
Your welcome and thanks for the support!
Do you let off the throttle when you shift
That was one thing i wish i would have covered better than i did, so thank you for asking. You do not let off the throttle and it is better that you dont. For me i just keep it at where i am when i shift. What i mean by that is i dont let off or give it gas, just maintain the current throttle position. If you let off the throttle it will make a louder than usual "clunk" noise and jerk you a little bit, that has been my experience on different models as well.
Steady throttle on up shift. Up revving is automatic on dowshift
Great explanation! I was wondering if you always have to look at your rpms to tell when to shift or overtime you can just tell? Like Does the bike feel different and that’s when you know to shift or you just kinda know after awhile.
You quickly get use to the feel and sound of the bike. The only time I look at RPMs are when I am pushing the bike for speed and want to get every bit of power I can out of it. Even then you can feel it.
MOABMAN thanks for responding, looking to get one next month and I couldn’t get that answer anywhere. You just got a new sub!
@@charliblaze718 Thank you for the comment and support! You will like it and it is a lot of fun. If you never rode a motorcycle before, don't worry, the Spyder is fairly easy to ride. You still need to be careful and not forget that it IS a motorcycle and your the bumper!!! Stay safe and ride happy!
Why did you downshift to 3rd to pass? New to riding one of these.
Thank you for watching and your gonna love the Spyder. Just like in a car, it helps to down shift when passing depending on situation. Going to a lower gear will give you higher rpms than the gear you are in and this will improve speed a lot. For example if you are in 5th gear and your RPM is at 2 and your trying to pass quickly it will take you longer than if you shift into fourth gear where your RPMs might be sitting at 4-5 and your engine will be quicker in response. The higher the RPMs the more torque and hp you will have available to use. You never want to shift to a higher gear and lower RPM when passing.
Hope this video will help you some!
Video helped me alot. I bought a spyder rt 2015 last august not knowing the first thing about riding. Im 61yrs old and this May im taking a class to get my endorsement. I am totally new to the bike world i have alot of friends that ride but i never have. Ive been watching alot of videos and i just couldn't figure out when to shift or how to really shift.And i had no idea you shift down to pass then shift up. Thats confusing to me. Can i ask you to explain that to me alittle more or if you have another video i could watch. Thanks so very much.
Thank you for watching and glad this video helped. Think of the passing part just like a car does. When you step on the gas real hard to pass a car, if your in an automatic it will shift down and then you RPM's will go higher and you can go faster. So lets go to shifting the Spyder......
If you are in 6 gear and your RPMs are around 2000, when you twist the throttle a lot to pass a car, it will take a while before your power and RPMs get to a fast speed. So if you are in 6 gear and 2000 rpms and want to pass, then it is best to shift to 5th or 4th gear (down). Your RPMs will increase and you will have more power for passing quicker. Almost all vehicles accelerate faster at higher rpms. Hope this makes sense and helps. If not, just comment back and i will be glad to help, emailing is ok as well if you feel uncomfortable commenting something.
moab.man@yahoo.com
I hope this is what you were asking about as well.
Also, congrats on getting a new spyder and taking the first step to try something new.
I have watched alot of your videos and have learned alot. I am taking my class next week for my license. But i have a very silly question im sure you will think. To slow down taking corners you use the throttle and then to speed back up you use the trottle correct? No breaks? I'm trying to learn all i can before the class as ive never riden a bike in my life i wear ankle braces...i have a 2015 Spyder RT thats been sitting all winter waiting for me to ride. And im anxious lol soon to be 62yrs old.
Not a silly question at all and thanks for the comment. First, dont be nervous about the class and what you think that you dont know. That is what they are there for and ask all you can. You will learn a lot and be confident to ride when done. You will "roll" off the throttle on certain curves and use brakes on others. The more you ride the more comfortable you will get at this. You need to judge before going into a curve and start making the adjustment. Sometimes you will only need to let off the throttle and steer into the curve. For sharp turns or curves, yes you need to brake a little before going into it. You dont want to slam on brakes in the middle of turning or curves. Coming out of a curve you then start giving gas again. They will talk about this in better detail in the class so dont worry!! Thanks for comment and support
@@MOABMAN Thank you so much i guess its close to like driving a car. Everyone has told me not to worry about taking this class its just something totally new to me. I really appreciate your help and your videos. I maybe asking more questions soon lol. Thank you again have a wonderful day.
@@sallyhall-fj3yp you are welcome and yes it is like using a car in curves (only speed wise). Go in to the class with no worries so you learn easier. You are more than welcome to email if you want to ask a bunch of questions. moab.man@yahoo.com
I have one question when you're sifting up is up in Eco mode or maybe the regular mode when you shift do you have to let go of the throttle like you would if you were shifting with your foot do you understand what I'm saying In other words do you have to let go of the gas shift the gear and then give it more gas Like you would shift with your foot
I do understand what your saying and use to ride two wheel so know what you mean. Good question too. The semi-automatic spyder allows you to stay on the throttle while shifting at any speed. It is the same for any mode your in- ECO, Normal, or Sport. You can order a manual on them, but I have to be honest... The more I use the paddle shifter the more I like it. The brake will probably be the awkward thing for you to get use to. It is on your right foot and controls all wheels simultaneously, and it stops the bike quickly.
Hi there and thanks a lot for your video! I have 2 questions:
1.- After turning off the engine with the killi switch, can I turn it back again while still moving and if so does it starts in neutral?
2.- What if I leave the gear switch “+” pressed while accelerating?
Thank you!
Great questions and thanks for comments!
1. Yes you can turn it right back on while motor is running. It stays in same gear and acts like your never turned it off. I have personally done this by accident several times, and same results every time. Good question!
2. Leaving the + pressed will not shift and I do not recommend doing this and getting in that habit. The computer system for the Spyder is very good. If it sees that the button remains pressed and your giving it gas and what not, it will trigger an error code or send it into limp mode. You then have to go to dealer to reset ECU and codes. For me I just tap the button and then remove thumb.
Thanks and hope this helped. I will be glad to answer any questions you have if I have the knowledge to answer. If I dont know I will be glad to help find out as well. Stay safe and ride happy!
PS... Love the icon
@@MOABMAN Thanks man, I've been thinking about becoming Spyder Ryder but here in Spain you can't test any Spyder at the dealers so I still have several questions about it. It is really a pity that they don't have any test circuit here so I guess I'll have to wait until my next trip to the States for doing that. thank you again for your answers.
By the way, I'm thinking about a 2021 F3-S NOT the Special Series (with color is everything but attractive to me) Any idea where to find reviews about this model? All I've found has been about the F3-Special Series :(
@@Raffgon I am sorry to hear you cant test drive one. Some places here won't either because of Covid. I have 2 videos out that may help answer your questions. The first one talks about the differences in all 2021 models:
czcams.com/video/5g_TMkzGieQ/video.html
This one reviews my F3S which is basically the same but does not have the digital display. They did not change anything other than the digital display so it is the same motorcycle, engine and all:
czcams.com/video/_ZbjerqAlvA/video.html
I hope these help you, and any questions you have i'll be glad to help you. You are more than welcome to send email as well to moab.man@yahoo.com
@@MOABMAN Thanks again... That was a very useful comparison you did! I hope I would be able to get an F3-S sooner than later. Here in Europe prices are just CRAZY (F3-S cost 30,000 USD) and they are not importing all colors from other models... and F3-T that is the model I would love to had well.. it just doesn´t exist here. In the other hand I really don't like those colors neither... that gray from the F3-SS or that ugly pale blue? no sir, I'm not paying money for that at all!!
@@Raffgon Agree about the colors they have. 30,000 is about how much an RT is here. The F3S is about 20-25 here. Right now it is a little hard to get a Spyder in the US too. The plant that makes them was shut down because of Covid for a while. The demand for the Spyder is more than they can produce right now. Hopefully they will get caught up and then you will get some more there. Thanks for the comments and support! I believe you are the first I've commented with from Spain.
Hi great video how's the passing power let's say you're going 65 70 on the freeway will a bike over work? Just curious based on my area New Jersey Turnpike😩😖. Right now I am riding 2015 Victory Hammer great passing power comfortable but I'm really considering the can am. Love the safety feature
Thanks and good question so i hope i can answer in a way that helps you. It has good power. 1330cc engine 115hp. At 65 or 70 you just down shift a gear or two (do not be in Eco mode) and your easily doing 90 before you know it. My commute to work is 130 miles, on the way to work it is up hill. Most of the time if your not doing 80 or 90 you will get run over and i promise to you that the speed i just said is not an exaggeration you really have to stay at 80 or 90. Unbelievably there is not a lot of vibration or wobble either at that speed. The winds in this area are known to overturn tractor trailers and on the Spyder F3 it doesnt seem to care. My helmet is blown more than the bike is. As long as you have it in the right gear on the F3 the passing is not an issue, promise. The bike tops out around 120 but still feels like there is more to go.
My wife and i very comfortably rode up a steep hill (about 3 miles)on the interstate and we did 65 to 70 very easily with 2 people. I am referencing the 2018 up Spyder F3's. If you get a 900+- cc engine (years 2016 and older RS models) you may be really dissapointed. I wouldnt recommend a ryker for those speeds and that type of interstate driving. Just so you know i am originally from the East coast so i have ridden the Jersey turnpike and in Atlanta traffic too, so i know where you are coming from with rhat question. Hope this helped. Thanks for the comment and support!
@@MOABMAN thank you so much!!! I'm so grateful for your reply! So keep my eye on 2018 f3 and up! Once again thank you. Ride safe brother man.
@@jasonbourne4127 You too! If nothing else, test ride one, they are different and fun!
How does the F3 feel going longer distances? Im debating between the F3 and RT... I like the f3 because it looks sporty. But from the looks of things, the RT looks better for long distance especially with the footboard.
The RT is for touring and long distances. More storage and features that make a huge difference. I did not like that you can not lengthen the brake linkage on the RT though. I find it a little short for me. For 2 people you will be more comfortable on the RT. My wife and I have been on the F3 for a 10 hour trip before and we're OK in comfort but not the same as an RT. Plus we were limited on what we could take as well. If the main reason of owning it will be for long trips I would say the RT is the best for you. If you are by yourself riding and just want day trips for a couple hours then the F3 would work for you. Both are a comfortable ride either way. I plan in about a month to have 2 videos coming out talking about the Ryker on one and RT on the other and comparing them to the Spyder F3. I'm working a lot on it now.
@@MOABMAN 10 hour trip? That's awesome! Yes I plan on riding around town and traveling no more than 4-6 hours . I really love how the F3 looks in comparison. I understand the storage compacity maybe a little annoying, but for those type of trips I would probably just drive my car instead. Does not having the windshield on f3 bother you? That's another concern I have. Will stuff be flying in my face without the windshield?
Forgot to say thank you for the comment and support earlier, so thank you!!!! I love the wind and hate windshields. I am impressed with the RT windshield but absolutely hate the F3 and especially the Ryker ones. The one on the Ryker from BRP distorted the road a whole lot where it curves. I find myself fighting, leaning or looking "around" the windshield to see a non distorted drive rather than enjoying a ride but that is just me. I only buy top end helmets where noise and wind is minimal and bugs do happen to hit it, that is part of riding. I grew up with dirt bikes, jet skis, 4 and 3 wheelers and open face helmets as well so kinda used to the wind. Here in California it gets 100 degrees so wind is good on the helmet and the windshield makes a helmet hotter because no wind getting to the vents. They are convenient to have in rain and cold weather though. It sounds like the F3 will be a good fit for your needs. Check out my can-am experience video (not the newest one but the one put out about a month or 2 ago) and see about signing up for a test ride. That will give you a good chance to really see the difference.
@@MOABMAN will do! Thanks for answering my questions sir. You gotta new sub!
@@theonlyEYEBROWKING Thank you and hope I helped! Appreciate the support.
Its so sad they killed off the manual 6 speed..
I have ridden motorcycles for a couple of years , and my car is a full manual also ..
I guess i will have to try and see....
I thought the same way at first, and I do love manual shifting as well (my jeep is manual), but the more I use the paddle shifter the more I am starting to get swayed. It still allows you to be some part of the shifting and in control. You can get it in manual shifting on the Spyders through 2021, I am not sure but should be able to on the 2022 as well. Do try the paddle shifter before buying one with manual. I am happy now that I got the semi-automatic instead of manual and would do the the same for my next one as well. Never thought I would be saying that! The best advice I can give you is clear your thoughts of motorcycle comparison from the 2 wheel riding and think of it more as an advancement in technology and engineering for a motorcycle when you ride one. The RT is such an improvement to me from the old trikes and the "Goldwing" style motorcycles of today if you go that route.
hi, just on the pedal commander, does that override the nanny switch under the pillion seat?
Good question! No it does not override the nanny at all. The bike still maintains the nanny features. The Pedal Commander strictly just involves how quickly the bike responds to you twisting the throttle. I believe there are only 2 years that you can override the nanny on the f3s by pushing a sequence of buttons on the left handle controls. ( I think 2016 and 2017 ). Are you wanting the nanny off?
@@MOABMAN No, I was just curious. It would be nice to get a better throttle response down low though. I have a 2020 RTL and we are not lightweights, and if you're on an uphill start from lights or an intersection it would be nice to have that little bit more punch.
@@brettnaysmith3949 It does make a huge difference. My setting that I like is city +2. It gives me a quicker throttle response that I feel the bike should have. On the bigger RT models I have noticed people saying that they like it in sport better. Makes sense because it is heavier. It still shows $299 for the price on slingmods. It is an easy install too. If you get one, I'd love to hear your thoughts about it. Your more than welcome to email at moab.man@yahoo.com or just comment if you want to share your thoughts.
@@brettnaysmith3949 By the way, hard to truly see it on your icon, but thats a good looking ride.
How much rpm’s should you do to shift
For best gas mileage between 3 to 4K RPM's, for normal riding around 5k, and redline it when haulin butt! Mine shifts the best at 4k and i have found that true for every model Spyder I have rode. I do show it a little in the video as well.
what is petal commander?
It is a aftermarket add on that allows you to adjust the throttle response for a quicker or slower throttle response. It is more useful for bigger RT models that are slow to respond
I have a review on it here is the link:
czcams.com/video/6aL74v0HIac/video.htmlsi=cwSIbfLoJ9-b9Gch
Thanks for watching and the comment
Good video....great info..... but your camera work and production is impressive....... my channel goals
Thank you for that. It is hard to entertain and educate/inform/help at the same time. Every video i aim for a new goal so thanks for support and comments!
Do you need to release gas when shifting like a manual?
You do not have to release or slow down on the throttle. It is better to maintain the same throttle i have found unless i am passing. Thanks for watching and hope this helped you
So it’s not fully automatic like a Ryker?
That is correct. You can get the Spyder in Semi-Automatic or Manual but not fully automatic. The Ryker is fully automatic but no other options as of now.
@@MOABMAN All Spyders are semiautomatic now exclusively. Manual is no longer an option on the current year models. Just an FYI for everyone just seeing this video and looking for a new bike.
@@la_old_salt2241 Thanks for the comment and support! You are correct, in 2023 it is semi-automatic only. I really hope they dont go fully automatic on the Spyder. If so that is the end for me! I like being a part of the shifting process
@MOABMAN Yep, that's part of the fun.