Laguna Fusion F3 Table Saw Deep Dive Exam
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- čas přidán 30. 05. 2024
- Laguna has recently redesigned their Fusion F3 table saw with improved dust collection, trunnions and more. Laguna provided a demo unit of this saw for evaluation purposes. Here I take a in-depth look at the features of this cabinet saw, make some test cuts, and share some observations.
I have the model with the 52" fence: lagunatools.com/classic/table...
There is also a version with a 36" fence available: lagunatools.com/classic/table... - Jak na to + styl
Great review. Just bought this saw, can't wait to try it out.
Awesome. Thanks. Let me know what you think.
nice channel sir! I am looking at this saw. I really like the fence extrusion. that's a really cool feature. the blade change operation looks super convenient. This will definitely will make a nice upgrade to my cabinet shop and YT channel. I think you just have made up my mind in my purchasing decision. thank you for your awesome review. It was quick and to the point. It was well articulated and easy to understand. subbed for sure!
Hi JP, Thanks for the feedback, and for the sub. Cheers, Paul
You are most welcome
That was indeed a deep dive. Very Nice! Just bought one.
Thanks 🙏
I know you made this video last year, but really glad I found it tonight. I was about to purchase a sawstop, but seeing this saw has changed my mind. I am going Laguna. thanks for all the info
That's great - Glad I could help! I just saw a very good video on the Shop Nation channel that spells out why he bought an F2 rather than SawStop. He makes a great case.
@@ToolMetrix I saw the same video, but you took everything to a new level, many thanks. I am buying Laguna
not to mention it's half the price of a sawstop! at least where I live..
Fantastic review of this saw, I’m replacing my sliding table saw . Moving to a smaller workshop so the fusion 3 is going to be perfect with enough power . Again great video 👍
Thanks for the feedback Nick. Cheers, Paul
Purchased my F3 and it should ship from Laguna next week. Thanks for the great review and helping me make my decision.
Randy are you in UK or US?
@@gavinschofield8578 US
Glad I could help, Randy. Cheers, Paul
how you likeing the saw????
im here in Canada, there is a tool shop just down the road which sells Laguna equipment... i cant wait to bring one home next month!
It was an awesome saw. Unfortunately, as with most tools that I get in for eval videos, I wasn’t able to keep it.
I just ordered this saw. Looking forward to pushing it to it's limits
👍
Great overview. I purchased an F3 two months ago, and I can say aside from the lack of updated assembly instructions (still to this date unavailable from Laguna) that it is a great saw.
Thanks for sharing, Matt. I agree that the manual could use some additional assembly details.
Another hat tip to you is that yours is the ONLY overview/review that I’ve been able to find on CZcams other than Laguna’s. For their price-point and features, I expect sales of these newly updated Fusions to really take off.
🙏
I just got mine today. The lack of instructions for the 52" rails is insane. I was told to reference the exploded parts diagram, which I think is actually wrong. Or at least I can't figure out how to read it :). Any tips would be appreciated!
I’d suggest calling in to support. If I still had it here I’d send you some pictures. I don’t remember how I did it. Sorry.
You made me feel alot more at ease with my decision to buy this exact setup. I've been going back and forth about which saw to buy for a month. I finally settled on this one last night, and have been second guessing my decision. Thank you for the informative video
Glad I could help, Wayne. Enjoy your new saw. Cheers, Paul
It’s a beautiful saw And great presentation. I’ll be purchasing one soon. My only question is can the out-feed table be used as an in-feed the other way around to feed longer material and I’ll route the grooves fully?
Hi Karim, thanks. I haven’t thought about using the outfeed table that way so I don’t know what it might take to do so.
Thanks for the nice review. One question. Is it possible to set up the saw without the extension table to the right and without the fence rail running so far out to the right side? Due to size limitations, I would likely want to place the saw so that it takes less space towards the right side. Although I suppose the fence rail comes in single piece and so its not possible to have it shorter? Thanks.
Hi Hando, thanks for your comment/question. From my memory, it should be possible to do this, but you will have to cut the fence rail. They offer the saw with a shorter rail; I believe it's 36".
Can you add the Jessem TS guides with that aluminum extrusion style fence? Thanks for the review!
Hi Daniel, I don’t think there’s clearance. You could remove the aluminum and fasteners if you want and use it as a regular fence as an option but I’d rather keep it as a European fence.
Great video thank you. Today I pulled the trigger and bought this exact model. Stumbled across this video looking to see if anyone had figured out a way to install the jessem guides, looks like no. Upgraded from a ridgid 4512 and bought the jessem guides for it due to kick backs. Turns out the 4512 I had was just impossible to get the fence right without bowing the extension wings for thin wide rips, hoping this will be better. Guessing my dust collection set up (750 cfm) will do very little for above so probably gonna disconnect the top set up but time will tell.
Hi Mark, thanks for your feedback. I'm not sure about the jessem guides. I haven't played with them, but I'm guessing that you would have to remove the sliding portion of the fence to make them work. Maybe not, but those look very cool and I'd definitely work to figure out how to incorporate them into the new setup. I think you're probably right about the 750 CFM DC. I'd not use the upper hose. I would still probably modify the internal setup to run 4" straight to the below table shroud. There's also a 1" hole that goes into the body of the saw from the duct connection on the back of the saw, and I'd get rid of that for sure. You would actually have to get rid of that if you go 4" all the way through to the shroud, but I just wanted to call that out because it's not very noticeable.
I think I found my next table saw 🥰
Sounds great, Jared. If you get one, let me know what you think. Cheers, Paul
Thanks for the review. It seems like a really great saw that I am giving great thought to purchasing. However, I have one area of concern and that is the distance from the front of the table to the blade. According to specs listed for this saw and several others that I am considering, the F3 seems to be several inches shorter than a PM64B or Jet Proshop 2, both of which are under consideration (yes I know they are not true cabinet saws and have less HP motors). This fact also seemed to be of concern to folks listing reviews on LumberJocks forum. Can you provide your thoughts on this? Thank you.
Hi John, I was actually just thinking about this today. Overall I’d prefer that the blade be positioned further back to provide more runway when ripping long boards and plywood sheets. That said, the sliding fence helps with that situation by extending forward during long rips. It definitely helps although it doesn’t give as much runway as som other saws. The upside of a forward positioned blade is that it provides an easier reach when using a sled or doing other crosscut operations. The reason I was thinking about this today was that I was cutting dentil molding and leaning over the saw for a long time and actually wishing that the blade was not so far back.
Thank you for the great review! I am seriously considering this table saw. Did I not see somewhere that the saw had a digital read out for the angle?
Hi Mark, thanks. Yes I believe it does have that now on the current model.
Thanks for taking the time to review the laguna saw. I was wondering if you had dust collector running when you were crosscutting? There seemed to be considerable amount of dust escaping.
Hi Stephen, Great question. Yes I did dust collection hooked up. The dust collection design on this saw splits a 4" feed into a 2.5" and a 1.5" line, plus a small hole into the cavity of the saw. To me, this design assumes that the user has a small dust collector and wants to get some collection above the table and some from beneath the blade. For a typical small shop environment, that's probably a reasonable common denominator assumption. Splitting down to the smaller lines like this delivers some air flow for all three members, but there's only so much to go around. It catches some but not all of the dust. For those who have a bigger dust collector, what I'd suggest is to run a 6" drop to the duct to the saw. From there, replace the internal 2.5" hose with a 4" hose, extending that inside the cabinet to the shroud around the blade. From the 6" main duct, branch off a wye (not a "T" as it currently is), and run a 2.5" line to the blade guard, with an adapter right at the guard. Might have to add a support wire from the ceiling to handle the additional weight of the 2.5" line; not sure. If I had an underpowered dust collector (1 - 1.5 HP) I might decide to replace the internal 2.5" with 4" and put a cap on the port that is used for above table collection. To me it's most important to capture below the table to keep the inter-workings of the saw clean. This probably requires 350 - 400 actual CFM. If you are pulling a fair bit more than that, then siphoning some off to run to the above guard collection is a great idea. Dust collection is a tuning exercise, and it's tough to have a one-size-fits-all configuration. This one provides a good "out of the box" starting point that can be easily modified by a user to take advantage of whatever capabilities their dust collection system has. Others might not agree with my philosophy on this, btw, and might prefer to get some dust capture both below and above the table. I currently use an old Unisaw and it's about as bad as it gets for dust collection. I made a 6" port and connected it to the back of the saw, and it collects from the entire cabinet. It takes a LOT of CFM to keep that saw clean inside. I don't currently have above table collection, but I'd like to. I really like the shroud that this saw uses, because you don't have to collect from the entire cabinet, but it's also important to balance the hose size with your dust collection system to maintain the best possible extraction.
Hi there. I run a 2HP with canister filter, would you just run 4" inside and drop it down at the shroud? I use to have a second 4" drop from the ceiling and reduced it to 2.5" near the blade guard. Maybe that's the best approach based on your suggestion. Do you think 2hp would be enough?
I would do it exactly like you are saying. I would first try without any collection above the table. If you get decent collection then I’d try above the table as well. I think you should get decent collection that way on both top and bottom. If not, I’d skip the top collection and just get everything you can from below. If you’re not getting good collection below I’d either figure out how to modify the shroud to accept 4” with no reduction or I’d collect from the entire cabinet with a 4” (not ideal).
ToolMetrix as an FYI, I retook your advice and ran another drop from the ceiling for the over blade guard. Still horrible so I sent an email and just got a phone call from Laguna. They have redesigned the blade shroud apparently, and are sending a new one out ASAP so I can add it to the saw. So if you have an F3 I would suggest calling for the new shroud!!
That’s great to know. Thanks!
Thanks for another very good and informative video. Is there any differance in the cabinet itself between the Fusion 2 and 3? Or is it just the table and other parts?
The cabinet is different as well. It's thicker steel on the F3.
@@ToolMetrix Thanks ;-)
Thanks so much for your review. It has been really helpful and I have decided to purchase this saw in the UK. One question. In the UK saws are braked to stop more quickly so they do not recommend using a dado. Are you aware of a dado stack that can be used with a brake mechanism? Thanks Dave
Hi Dave, Thanks for the feedback. It's interesting to learn about the more aggressive breaking mechanism in the UK. I like that idea quite a bit. I'm surprised to hear your question about using a dado, however, as I was under the impression that saws that are sold in the UK did not include an extended arbor because dado stacks were forbidden there. It sounds like that is not the case? Has there been a change, or was I previously misinformed? I'm not aware of any dado that would be specifically designed to operate with a more aggressive brake, but if anything I would think that a wobble style dado would be more apt to work ok because it would be lighter. I don't really care for that style of dado, but if weight is the concern it might be an options.
@@ToolMetrix There are a number of machines on the market now with longer arbours but the supplier is prohibited from saying it can be fitted with a dado even though they know people do. Thanks again for your thorough reviews. Dave
Very interesting! Thanks, Dave.
Thanks for this and many other great reviews! Do you know how to regulate the riving knife height?
The riving knife moves with the blade so the height is adjusted with the handwheel. I don’t remember if/how the gap between the blade and riving knife is adjusted.
@@ToolMetrix Thanks for your answer! Yes I know it moves with the blade... but mine sticks above the blade and as you know it should be aprox 2 mm below it. I can´t seem to find a way to adjust this. I think I will end up grinding the riving knife. Thanks again!
Hmmmm...yeah, got it. I’d suggest calling Laguna before grinding it, but grinding it should be fine too.
Good review …You went over the in feed of the fence stability but not the out feed which the f2 had some play in the back extension … I wish you would have went over that. I need a sturdy ripping fence in my line of work .
Thanks for your feedback Erica. I’m always trying to improve so this feedback helps.
Did you get the dimension of the saw in the crate? Hoping to move it through some doorways before unpacking.
Hi Aaron, I didn’t measure but I moved it easily through a 35” opening. Hopefully that helps.
Thank you for your previous comment 2 more questions concerning the laminate extension:
1. Is the extension plywood or MDF and laminate surface that may be possible to install a router insert in either the 36" or 50" extension?
2. Is the deep dive photo that is standard showing the 36" extension w/ legs?
Hi Ed, the extension is a composite material; not plywood. I don't believe that it was MDF, but unfortunately I no longer have the saw in my shop and I can't check it for you. As I recall it's 3/4", and it's a fairly large span, so yes you could install a router insert but I would reinforce the table to prevent sagging over time. The photo on the thumbnail is of the 50" version that I had in my shop, and that model comes with legs. The 36" model doesn't have legs to support the table.
Thyank you -again - paul - Very helpful!!
My pleasure, Ed.
If you buy the F3 37", are you able to get Laguna accessory legs to support it? Or do those only come with the 52" version?
I believe that they only come with the F3. I doubt that they would be necessary on the 37" version. Would be easy enough to attach some legs if you wanted to though.
Great Review. This looks like an outstanding saw, but it does concern me that the runway ahead of the blade is so short compared to others in its class. Is 8" sufficient if you use a lot of jigs and sleds? Seems like you would often be working right on top of the blade or have trouble vertically stabilizing larger panel sleds... interested in your take.
I think that the reason for the forward positioning is so that the operator doesn't have to reach so far over the table to push something past the blade, which could be a safety factor as well. I'd rather have more runway. It didn't seem problematic to me in my testing, but the challenge would be in ripping large sheet goods where the runway helps you to get the sheet aligned properly before engaging the blade. The fact that the fence extends forward mitigates this situation a lot, but even with the fence fully extended I didn't have as much runway as on my Unisaw. For me it's a factor to consider but not a deal breaker. It's just something to get used to.
@@ToolMetrix Thanks for the reply. If one did use a lot of sleds, would you think that the Laguna still compares favorably with the Harvey Alpha or the Grizzly G0899 which both have a traditional blade placement and a European fence? Not only in terms of safety, but also frustration-free use? Are they in the same class as the Laguna?
One question please. My basement door clearence is 100 cm. Is it ok or I have to disassemble the cast iron table ?
That will fit.
Great review. Does the fence have the hook on the back to clamp on the back rail?
Hi Phillip, I don't remember for sure, but I don't think it has to. I'd suggest confirming with Laguna.
@@ToolMetrix Ok, thanks
Great review, does the blade being closer to the front make it problematic to use? I have noticed that other table saw blades are further back.
I’d rather have it a couple inches back but it didn’t prove to be a problem when using it. If necessary the fence can slide forward to effectively position the blade further back.
Does the european fence come with the saw? Great Job I want to remove my Delta even tho its all rebuilt..jim
Hi Jim, yes it does. Standard equipment.
this is my dreame table saw laguna
They definitely did a great job on this saw.
Is there a door in the cabinet to get to the underside of the saw so it can be cleared of sawdust that the dust collector does not pickup?
Just the access panel on the motor side
Received my new saw last fall really nice saw a lot better than the grizzly that I use to have
The raise and till work great
Dust collection in the base works great but made my own 4” over blade collection which eliminates all the flying dust coming off the blade
I replaced the rails for the fence to let me set the fence on the right side of blade and extended it to an overall length of 6’
I have a major problem yesterday I was ripping 16’ long 2x6s after the 11 th board the belt melted and came apart
I need a new belt
How fast can I get one
Yikes! Never heard of a belt melting like that. You’ll want to contact Laguna about a replacement. I’m just a CZcamsr.
Hi Paul, I should have my fusion 3 coming in a month or so (I’m UK based) and am looking to buy some blades. Could you possibly tell me if the blades for this machine use pin holes next to the main 30mm bore/arbor hole? And if so what diameter and spacing apart they are?
Thanks or the great review of this saw, just what you need when you’re thinking of buying one!
Cheers,
Rob
Hi Robert, thanks for watching, and for sharing your feedback. The F3 that I had here did not have any such pin holes, but it's possible that the UK version might be different. I'd suggest checking with Laguna or their UK reseller. Cheers, Paul
What thickness is the blade & associated riving knive that comes with the saw? Are there other thickness riving knives availible?
There’s a full kerf knife that comes standard and a thin kerf available as an option. I don’t recall the exact thickness of the full kerf but just shy of 1/8” I believe.
This might be a odd question but how many drive belts does this saw have the saw I currently have now has 3 belts to drive the blade.
It has one drive belt, which is pretty common these days. I have an older Unisaw which uses 3 drive belts.
Some people have been concerned about the deflection of the fence on the far end. Does that seem like an issue in your opinion? I’m considering buying this saw
I didn’t notice anything concerning in that regard when I had the saw here. I was impressed by the fence.
I probably missed it but could you tell me if the base has leveling feet?
I believe so but I don’t recall.
How does dust collection work for two separate areas? Are they combined into one hose?
Hi Terry, yes, there is a single 4" inlet connection, and the hose for the blade guard collection branches off from there.
Hi there, I am in the market for a new saw and looking at the Laguna F2. I watched a few videos about them fence, and I am really concerned about the fence, there is no support on the other end of the fence, how much play is there, especially if you are cutting large boards the inaccuracy will exacerbate the problem. Whats your opinion.
I found the fence to be solid and accurate. I have no rear support on my unisaw Biesemeyer fence either and it’s extremely durable and accurate as well.
What is a difference between 2019 and 2020 model? I can't find any info about that. Thanks for the replay.
Hi Djuro, I never got to play with the 2019 model so I don’t know what all changed. Would be best to ask Laguna about that. My understanding is that dust collection was improved in 2020 but I don’t know what else.
nice machine
Definitely 👍
So I’ve been waiting since mid November for my Fusion F3 Table saw and 14BX band saw. The dates. Just keep getting pushed out. For what I’ve spent on those two tools I could purchase a nicely equipped 3hp sawstop that has what appears a true 5 week lead time. What would you do between those two options?
Hi Randy, That's a long time. Very difficult decision. The continuous slip is frustrating, and it's a symptom of lockdowns a stimulus checks that are driving the demand through the roof. I don't have any insight on what the actual lead time might be, although it's clear that people are buying these tools faster than Laguna can make them. If all of three tools were available immediately, I'd take the Fusion and 14bx over just the SawStop for even money. But with an indefinite waiting period, I'm not sure what I would do. Sawstop makes a fantastic saw. The only downside that I see being expensive false positives on the brake system that cause unplanned downtime, and an inability to use smaller blades. (I like to use a 7.25" blade on my table saw as much as possible) On the positive side, it's a super high quality saw, and I love the dust collection on the SawStop. I think their design is about as good as it gets in terms of capture. So, I guess it also partially depends on how badly you need a bandsaw in the near term. In a typical year I probably use my bandsaw more than my table saw, but that is because I rough out bowl blanks, cut up logs, and do lots of resawing and some curvy stuff. But, some people can get by without a bandsaw based on their approach to building. Unfortunately, I don't have a clear recommendation for you, and I'm sorry that this is dragging on like this.
@@ToolMetrix thanks so much for the fast good response. I think I’ll continue to wait. Thee F3 is supposed to ship on the 8th.
🤞🤞🤞 here’s hoping!!!
Can you tell me if there are Laguna or after market Router Tables that can be installed in lieu of the Phenolic extension?
Hi Ed, I'm not aware of anything, but it's possible that something out there would work.
@@ToolMetrix Thank you - Is the extension plywood and laminate surface that may be possible to install a router insert in either the 36" or 50" extension?
From F1 to F3, the drive motor has not been discussed, is it grear drive. direct drive or belt drive...?
All three are belt driven.
Is the blade a direct drive shaft off the motor didn't notice a v-belt drive from motor to saw blade shaft. I thought most where belt driven with some sort of v bely or serpentine belt . Do you really need to keep those kickback teeth on the riving knife Thanks for the review just getting ready to up grade from my Delta 3052 T2. Can you put a set of JessEm hold downs on the fence clearing the aluminum section on side of fence. I understand there dust collection wasn't that great compaired to a Harvey or Stopsaw.
The F3 is belt driven. I believe that you can remove the anti-kickback pawls or flip them out of the way. I'm not sure about the Jessem hold downs, as I don't use those. I think the SawStop would likely have better dust collection if you have a big enough dust collector to take advantage of the larger internal hose. If you use the F3 with a large DC, I would replace that internal hose with 4" all the way to the blade shroud. I haven't looked at a Harvey so I can't compare that one.
Is there any thought to developing a brake system like SawStop's or licensing their technology?
You’d have to ask Laguna that question. I’d be surprised if sawstop would license the technology at this point although that was their initial intention. And sawstop makes it tough for companies to introduce flesh sensing technology. They shut Bosch down in the US and nobody else has tried to my knowledge.
@@ToolMetrix Now that Festool owns SawStop, they have SawStop safety feature in their Festool TKS 80 saw.
That’s great to know. Thanks for sharing!
What are the total dimentions (footprint i guess?) I need for the saw in my garage? Between f1,2 and 3?
Sorry I no longer have the saws. I’m guessing you can find that information on the Laguna website.
Just finished assembling my F3. They sent the wrong setup guide. My saw does not have T-bolts holding the fence guide. There is no instructions on assembly of the fence guide, side mounted table and out feed table. Guide says it is a one hour setup but It took me 5 hours.
Hi Jerry, I've heard similar feedback from others. I didn't refer much to the manual during my assembly (it was the third table saw I assembled within a few weeks, so it was pretty familiar), so I can't really comment on it. It's a shame to have so many gaps in the manual, and I hope that you've passed along your comments to Laguna.
Beautiful saw but I think I will stick with my 1hp 30 yr old craftsman. i put a VEGA fence on it and it's now as accurate as i need. and since i really only work with 3/4 stock i can't justify the upgrade. but i can dream
Sounds like a good plan. I've heard a lot of good things about Vega fences. Yes, keep the dream alive! :)
Very good vedip the main body of the saw very well built
Thanks Jim.
My Dream Saw! THE F3!!!! - Cant wait to buy it and start my youtube channel,
I will end all my videos with " You've been Woodpecked" 🪓🤓
Get started on that channel, man! I love the vision. :)
toooooooooooooop,tinha que vim pro brasil...
I'd suggest contacting Laguna at www.lagunatools.com to see if they can ship to Brazil.
@@ToolMetrix yes meu sonho ter um torno deste porte,legal demais...
Sold!!!!!
Awesome. Let me know what you think. Cheers, Paul
What is the dimensions of the box on the top
Unfortunately my workshop door 89cm only.. And I'm already ordered f3.. I'm not sure if i need more space to get it inside.
It will fit through that
@@ToolMetrix Thanks 😁
@@diycharger1760 No problem. That's the same size as my shop door.
Hello, do you recommend this machine? Do you have problems with hardwoods?
This saw is well made and powerful. You would never have any problem with hardwood. Great saw for a hobbyist or a professional.
Just a word of warning to those who live in Europe, that are impressed by the US videos of the Fusion 3 saw, as I was. The US marketing highlights 4 really nice features included with their Fusion 3 saw: (1) improved split blade guard with blade view, (2) the included Riving Knife, (3) their custom fit Mitre sled, and (4) a right side workspace laminate board with support legs....if you are a European customer, you won't be offered any of these 4 items, or you'll be forced to take inferior facsimiles. Laguna touts these features, and they are all very valuable, and I was fully expecting to get them with my saw, but because I live in Europe, I'm told those features aren't offerred to EU customers...only US customers get those upgrades...what a shame!
The Laguna Fusion 3 Mitre Gauge is not anything special for EU customers, because of some "supply chain issue"...you'll need to spend another 80+ euro to get anything near the class the US customers get in their package.
Thanks, Jim. I appreciate your chiming in with this helpful information. Cheers, Paul
Which dealer would you suggest for Georgia??
Good question. Unfortunately I’m not familiar with the market in that area. Woodcraft and Rockler are both good options around here. I know that you have Highland WW there but I don’t know if they’re a Laguna dealer. Sorry I’m not able to help. Cheers, Paul
Hi any chance you could do that d b sound leavel for the fusion 2 please
Hi Christopher, I just dug through the raw clips from when I filmed that video, and I found the db test. It maxed out at 84.9 decibels, which is not bad for a table saw.
thanks so much for getting back to me i really needed that information very nice off you to take your own time to look that up for me @@ToolMetrix
so if noise is a concern would you recommend the fusion 3 instead as its 78db which is fairly quieter. thanks again
My pleasure, sir. Thanks for watching.
They all get a lot louder when they are cutting. If noise is a major factor I’d suggest using a 7-1/4” blade on the saw if you can. That’ll make a huge difference , both when cutting and not cutting. Different is HUGE. Check out my “best saw blade” recent video.
I've been looking at this saw and someone pointed out that the blade is closer to the front of the saw than others (by a couple of inches). Did you notice this and/or do you see it as a potential issue? Thanks for your review!
Hi Jim, . I did notice that. I think it’s a safety thing. Less distance to reach as you guide a work piece past the blade. If you’re ripping something big the fence can slide forward to provide a bit more runway. I didn’t have any problems with it. Could make it a bit trickier to rip a full sheet of plywood, or other large pieces that are a bit unwieldy, but I didn’t try that.
Is it heavy enough? I tried to find out how much it weighs and I can only find 400 lbs. Online. That doesn't seem heavy
Seems heavy enough. Virtually vibration free when running. At 400 pounds it’s not going to move if you bump it.
@ToolMetrix I'm considering buying this but am nit sure of I sure get this one or the grizzly. My brother in law has a grizzly and I know they are solid but the aren't in stock now and the dust port is on the wrong side for me.
I'm not sure if you can answer this, but I have a question about the hi-lo fence. If the indicator is calibrated so the ruler reads accurately with the fence in the high position, then how do you read it with the fence in the low position? It appears the low side is wider, which would change the distance between the fence and the blade. I checked the manual available online but it only seems to discuss assembly and doesn't cover any of the features including the hi-lo fence.Thanks!
Hi Randy, the scale is only accurate with the fence in the high position.
Dear Tool Metrix,
I would like to ask if the circular saw blade is directly mounted on the axle of the electric motor or if there is a belt drive.
If my question is hard to understand I'm sorry, i'll write it with a web translator.
Thank you for your reply.
Best regard: Tibi
Hi Tubor, thank you for your question. It is belt driven.
@@ToolMetrix Thanks for the reply.
Best regard.
Tibi
How much is a copy from Sawstop?
Not very much in terms of the usable features from my perspective. Maybe some infrastructure components but I didn’t really examine I from that perspective, partly because I don’t have a sawstop in my shop.
Great overview. While watching, I noticed your channel does a lot of Laguna product deep dives. I'm sure you're a huge fan of their products, but I gotta ask: Does Laguna sponsor your channel in any way?
Hi Matt, I’m a huge fan of any good quality tools. I like setting them up, taking measurements, and using them. I have an open invitation to any tool company that has an interesting product to send one out for evaluation. If I find it to be a worthy product I make a video. Sometimes I don’t. Not all companies will do this because my audience is modest in size, but some, including Laguna, will if they like the in-depth approach that I take. I don’t have any sponsors, and I’m not loyal to any brand. I currently have stationary and bench tools in my shop from Delta, Grizzly, WEN, Bosch, Ridgid, Oneida and Woodmaster. I’ve also owned and used several other brands over the years. I do appreciate your comment and take it as a reminder that I need to maintain a better balance in coverage. I do know that, but sometimes I just go with the flow. Cheers, Paul
How to get to electricity?
Not sure what you are asking
Is there a F 4?
Not that I’m aware.
@@ToolMetrix I was just kidding but I did just order a 52 F3 thank you for that segment it was great definitely helped me make up my mind
Awesome! Thanks for the feedback, Vui. Let me know what you think of the F3. Cheers, Paul
I would have liked to see how you put the table back on and did the calibration of the table to the saw blade.
Hi James, good suggestion. I'm thinking about doing a table saw tune-up video where I include that item. It's very easy on this saw; you just loosen up three bolts under the table, leaving one of them mostly tight but loose enough to rotate the table, then carefully test alignment to the miter slot using a dial indicator as you make tiny adjustments until you have it right. It didn't take long at all on this saw.
مرحبا
اريد قطعة
هل لديكم فرع في العراق؟
او بشكد قطعةواحدة واصل العراق /اربيل
Thank you for your question, Umid. I'm not aware of what distribution is available for this product in the Iraq market. Please contact the sales team at www.lagunatools.com to see if they have any sales outlets there. I am not affiliated with Laguna. Cheers, Paul
@@ToolMetrix
شكرا
هوايه
على الرحب والسعة يا صديقي
I'm pretty sure Iv watched this video over 10 times lol
Thanks x 10! 🤣
@@ToolMetrix Hey Paul, I was wondering if i could maybe get your advice. I am kinda stuck between the F2 & F3 Table Saw.
I am a Canadian & I currently rent a basement. I have full access to a 2 car garage by myself. The landlord knows I will be doing woodworking.
The garage is not wired for 240v so i would have to bother my landlord to hook up a 240v breaker & outlet.
Soo is there a big enough difference to stick with getting the F3 (240v) ? or will i be happy with the power & usage of the F2 ?
Price is not that big of a deal. im planning to cut all types of hardwood and soft wood for furniture... tables, desks, art..
The F2 has plenty of power, so it really depends what you are used to. With a good blade, it will rip through 4/4 and 6/4 hardwood with ease. You'll have to take it slower with 8/4, whereas you can plow right through 8/4 with the F3. My main saw is a 3 HP cabinet saw, so I definitely noticed the difference when I was cutting on the F2. That said, I'm not a production woodworker, so I would have absolutely no problem doing everything that I make on the F2, and I'm sure I would love it. If you are used to a more powerful saw, you can install a smaller diameter, and thinner blade, and the saw will feel more powerful. A LOT more powerful actually. For a LOT more detail on the advantages of a smaller blade, take a look at this video: czcams.com/video/_uJWWg-aawA/video.html . So, all that said, if the difference in price isn't a big deal, a 3 HP cabinet saw is a treat to use, so don't let me talk you out of the F3 if you have the itch. You'll also want to get a sense for which one would ship sooner because both of these saws have been backordered a lot lately. They literally seem to sell them faster than they can make them.
@@ToolMetrix Thanks a lot man. I really appreciate your comment and honesty. I still have about 3 weeks to decide which one i want before I can pick one of these bad girls up!
Im pretty sure there is a store just a few blocks away from my house called "Federated Tools" in London, Ontario Canada. They have them in stock on their website but I'm not 100% sure if they have them inside their building or if they just pass the order on to laguna. I wont be able to find out until our city's LOCKDOWN is lifted on May 19, 2021.
P.S. Iv never used a Table-Saw before lol.. as a matter of fact, as a guy who just turned 30 iv only used a mitre saw about 3 times.
Thanks to COVID iv been studying Woodworking (Tools & Projects) for about 6-7 months... IM READY TO START MY CRAFT.
You're in for a great time! Best of luck as you dive in to your new hobby. I got my first table saw for my 30th birthday. I've been having a blast with it ever since.
Эжду уже, не дождусь, когда она ко мне приедет🤗
enjoy it!
Максим привет.Если пользуешься пилой,то скажи пару слов о своём приобретении.
@@user-df2ij4lv5d, приветсвую. Да что рассказывать.Пила хорошая, мощь.Пилит все вообще как масло, ровная столешница, удобный удлинитель стола, червячная передача отличная, углы точные, парралельный упор хотелость бы двухсторонний, но это можно решить купив профиль.Работает очень тихо по сравнению с другими, удобно перемещать.Комплектация не такая как в вилеоописании. В щелом хорошая.А,вал 16й.Недостаток один,опилки много остаются в тумбе, потом призодится выгребыть руками.Узел крепления мотора чугунный, отличный и точный до тошноты.По работе лучше вориора или белмаша на голову, ремень силиконовый, качественный.
@@user-vi3zj7qt8w Максим спасибо большое за ответ.Интересно было узнать,что за аппарат от непосредственного обладателя.Больше всего интересовал именно узел крепления мотора,так как он принципиально отличается от других этого класса.Удачных Вам проектов и конечно хороших заказчиков!
@@user-df2ij4lv5d,я из-за узла и взял.Очень надежно и качественно в этом вопросе все сделано.Может из-за этого и работает так тихо.
Looks like a lot of saw for the money!!! And you don’t need to change blade stop cartridge for your dado stack!!! Nothing personal Sawstop... I’ll just keep my fingies away from the sharp thing spinning very fast...
I learned that the hard way...twice now. Luckily in both cases I only lost a little bit of my nail and I DON'T wanna do it again. I've been considering a SS, but I think Laguna might just have em beat although I'll probably have to settle for the 2 model since Uncle Sugar ain't gonna help out on the 3..
Great points
Ya I’ve had a few close calls at the table saw myself... had a bad kickback on a twisted 2x4 that turned a couple of my fingers into hamburger... fingers were fine it just didn’t look pretty for a few weeks. Luckily I only had the blade barely higher than the thickness of the material. SS are great saws and I’ve used them a bunch
Yikes! Yeah, kickbacks are nasty. I’ve had a couple. Not good.
Shut up and take my money
Ok.
Does not live up to the hype and support leaves a lot to be desired
What doesn't look good? I am in the market for one
Any particular aspects of the saw that disappointed you? I haven't heard many negative reports from owners.
I'd agree...especially if you live in Europe, like I do. It was terribly disappointing to hear the hype, and then find out (because we live in the EU) that we don't get their new blade guard, we don't get the separate riving knife, we don't get the "improved mitre gauge", and the right side extension table doesn't come with legs!...all disappointing discoveries after receiving the saw.