I Brought My Stock ZL1 Camaro To The Drag Strip! Didn’t Go The Way I Wanted It To…
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- čas přidán 25. 03. 2023
- I was finally able to make some quarter-mile passes in my 2018 Camaro ZL1! I learned very quickly that 650 horsepower and street tires do not play nicely together on a prepped surface.
It was not the best track day but I learned a lot and know what I need to improve on. Didn’t get a single good run due to small things with my car and some mistakes on my part.
Along with that, 1st gear was super lazy even with a burnout, traction control turned off and the car in track mode. Turns out, the car performed best during my first pass of the night. No burnout. Traction control on. Launching from idle.
In the end, it’s all about practice! This testing session was all about learning the car. I didn’t expect everything to be perfect. Launching a manual car on the drag strip is a whole lot harder than I expected. I need more practice (and a radial tire) but I will be back better than before!
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I have a stock 6-speed 2020 Camaro LT1 and ran a best 12.322 @ 117.01 mph. Couple of caveats to this. 1. I lowered the tire pressure down to about 22 psi. 2. This was at Island Dragway in late October 2022 when the temperature was around 44* and the density altitude was -500 ft. 3. Up until that point, I'd had nearly 100 passes on the car in the previous 18 months. The only way to get a good time is: lower your tire pressure on the driven wheels, wait for the "perfect" weather, lots and lots of practice. My FIRST run ever at the track with the same car was an abysmal 14.008 @ 108 mph... second pass ever was a 13.7 @ 110 mph. It took at least a dozen passes before I got my first 12-second pass (12.958 @ 114 mph). And after I found the perfect launch method - I get repeatable 12.4x-12.6x @ 115-116 mph - assuming the DA is less than 1,000 ft. What I notice is when people on the web talk about their time slips they only ever show their hero runs - and never talk about their progression from start to finish as they learn the car. Also, street tires play very well on prepped surfaces. I raced a no-prep 1/8 mile event ONCE and ran 9.0 @ 88 mph. My best 1/8 mile time on a prepped surface was 8.099 @ 91.9 mph (and 8.105 @ 92.1 mph). Street tires don't need a huge burnout unless the track temperature is cold (like it was for me at Island that day 44*) Otherwise, you're just looking cool and wasting rubber.
As a german petrolhead, owning an imported 2017 ZL1 with a 6MT as well, I can tell you that the feeling this car gives you isn´t comparable to anything else I´ve driven until today. And knowing this, numbers for 1/4 mile become 2nd ranked. Even more knowing that the true power of this car in a stright line is from a roll which is the more usual situation today.
I have a 2018 Camaro ZL1 with the 10 speed auto. On the line lock, don't know if you know this or not, but when you use the line lock...it will let you do a burnout for 15 seconds then the car will shut off and apply the parking brake. You can see the seconds count down from 15 to 0. To release it and drive out of the burnout, hit your cruise control button and your select button on your steering wheel to cancel it out.
Its so g damn hot down there it probably started pulling timing after the 1st pass
Keep practicing you have to be harder on your shifts and faster. Lower tire pressure and lunch harder its all in the first half of the track.
Beautiful Camaro. Sounded awesome with my headphones! You gave an honest and insightful analysis of your runs. I'm no expert, but I thought street tires should not go through the water box only slicks. Keep posting, will follow your progress. Shiny side up!
Thanks man! As far as street tires going through the water box, I believe it’s okay as long as you do a burnout 🤙🏼
@allanmiller3 If you're running street tires, you should avoid the water box. Street tires, specifically the front tires will carry water up to the staging lane. Water drips down fenders and lingers. If you have skinnies and slicks then it's fine.
No matter what kind of tire it is avoid it with the front if u can and pull all the way thru with the rears out of the puddle so you dont fling water everywhere or you will just spin em again when u launch.
My very first time down the drag strip at Firebird Raceway was in my 1968 Mustang Restomod. I ran 11.71@121mph.
Unfortunately, I was not allowed to race again until I had the proper safety equipment installed such as battery disconnect, fuel shutoff switch, drag bars, etc. Each time bracket had certain safety prerequisites assuming you already knew where you stood.
Being that it was my first time, I had no idea what I would run but I knew it would be quick. After all, she [my Mustang] cost me four girlfriends, two and half jobs and a copious amount of money back in my high school days and I miss her dearly.
Stay classy my friend.
My wife’s Tesla Model Y performance runs 11.8 without any drama.
hand on the shifter earlier.
That's a sick ride that was pretty cool man but street tires are a No-No🤘🔥🤘🔥
Unfortunately my advice is the same as some others, you need to learn how to drive fast, learn how to launch with no nannies, ride the clutch and keep up the RPM to get your 60 foot times down to 2.0 flat with street tires, leave your shifting hand off the wheel and onto the shifter, and no need for gloves, lean how to speed shift, learn how to shift as close to 6500 rpm as possible, the Zl1 manual car bone stock should be running high 11s at 120mph easily, with a drag radial and a driver, the car should be a low 11 sec car with trap speeds low 120's
Are those your lucky oven mitts? Lol
Hell yeah!
Your in a league of your own. Excellent consistency, your dialed in. Buy a cheap manual car & take it racing. Good luck! Nice car
Car should run 11.3 all day long
Keep it up man you will get the hang of it. With it being a stick car grab some stiff wall bias ply tires and not radials. Stick cars hit the tire to hard for a radial.
Don't add more power until you can launch the car a lot more aggressively. If your axles are the weak link. Then replace those first.
With your HP and slicks leaving aggressively, you'll break parts. Get those first. Otherwise you'll never go quicker. Have fun! Nice car
Don't use track mode.
Use tour or sport atleast, suspension in track is to stiff and doesn't allow it to squat and transfer weight to rear. And it looks like your moving your hand down to the shifter to late u need to keep it there with a manual.. I have a manual Z also. headers exhaust and intake (570 hp atw) with 17inch wheels with Mt SS and I've ran a 11.7 @ 122 on the street with dragy. Love your vid though bro keep them coming
Turn all the helpers off and just drive it,clutch/throttle control
Axles break on prepped surfaces and street tires?? If anything street tires spin too much letting your axles live longer?
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Dude nice car, but what's up with the two hands on the wheel? You are losing so much time. Try keeping your right hand on the stick instead of having to go from steering wheel to stick for your up shifts..
Also it sounds like you are short shifting the hell out of it. In that car hitting your up shifts harder at a higher rpm you should be in the low 12's- high 11's... You want those times you need to be a bit more aggressive.. All day!!!
Beautiful car.. Enjoy
Great advice. Thanks man!
My 19 A10 zl1 bone stock everything went 11.3
The torque management is terrible in the manual trans. My buddy never got his manual running near as fast as mine stock vs stock.
Mid 12s isn't bad at all for a true street car.
Nobody is talking about the guy in the uhaul truck😅😅😂😂 He rented it just to take it down the track😅😂😂😂😂😂😂
He never let that thing cool down, hot lapped it all night! 😂
Beautiful car, next time try lowering the tire pressure to 20 psi
u have a beautiful card dude have you thought about a active aero wing ? victorracing make really good ones for camaros
Not really, I like the stock wing
You need much better launches. And quicker shifting...keep one hand on the wheel, the other on the knob. No launch control, no traction control. Your off the line reaction time is slow. Driving a manual is MUCH different than an auto.
Sounds kind of long between gear shifts. Put a set of 4.56 gears in and try it again.
Keep your hand in the shifter the whole run… no need for two hands on the wheel
Your shifts are slow, the Z can no lift shift. You'll cut tons off if u master the feature
Dang was they spraying the u haul truck
Not sure but he made 20+ passes within a couple hours 😂
Must be to 60ft a zl1 like that. lol
12.69 and how much does that car cost ?
We are building my buddies racetruck at the shop that has a 421 stroker motor and nitrous.
Probably going to do a 9 second quarter mile.
Beautiful car, exactly like mine except mine is 2019. I have a few comments.
Conventional wisdom says not to do extensive burnouts on street tires, they get greasy and traction gets worse.
Tour mode will probably work better, the suspension should be soft to allow for weight transfer to the rear tires.
You already know, traction control off. The ZL1 has good traction control in all modes but it's not calibrated for drag racing.
The stock axles are quite strong, you should be able to launch fairly aggressively as long as you lift immediately in a wheel hop event.
Launch control is decent but not for hero times, it's nice for controlling variables to get some consistency out of the car.
Start foot launching once you're comfortable and have learned from what you observe using launch control, IMO.
When foot launching, clutch riding too long or being timid on the dump will cost you money. It's often worse to slip the clutch gently and drag out a slow launch than to engage a strong clutch aggressively. The stock clutch can take it, once you're confident.
Practice faster shifting, use the no lift shift feature of the car, and if necessary, you can leave your hand on the shifter. There's a cost to keeping your hand on the shifter, you're less capable of reacting in the event the car gets out of sorts. Eventually you can keep both hands on the wheel and just move more quickly or be more preemptive with your movement to shift on time and still maximize safety.
No lift shifting and missing is very hard on the drivetrain, and it's unwise to bang them out in high volume on a prepped surface or on a modded car. Use it sparingly, when you're ready for that perfect run.
All great advice. I will definitely be using it at my next track outing with the car. I appreciate your feedback. Thanks man! 🤙🏼
No headers and he doesnt know whats going on. Sounds normal.
Axles will hold 800 hp easy
What did the Uhaul run 🤣🤣
Fastest car on the property 😂
You shift very slow.
Trade it in for a 10 speed
Try using no lift shift next time. You'll use it everytime after that.
Definitely considering it now, it will help with cutting those shift times down
No it won't
Use that 6 spd for a boat anchor.
Spoken just like someone that can't get a stick car down a track
Keep practicing your shifts are lazy.
Tires won't help.
Automatic is faster trust I own a 2013 zl1
Mid 12s don't cut it on the streets where iam at
Yeah the ET was terrible but it wasn't even making mph. All that BS stuff needs to be off and just drive the car. My buddy wanted me to drive his couple bolt-on '14 coyote at the track for whatever reason. First time I'd ever driven a coyote car and I went 11.9 in it, don't remember the mph
My 2011 Camaro SS has gone 7.22 at 96mph in the eighth mile and 11.28 at 122.7 in the quarter with just 6 passes in the eighth and just 3 passes in the quarter
@@gloriamaletta8667 nitrous or blower?
@@logut80 naturally aspirated running a GM Performance LS3 495 horsepower crate engine with CNC ported and milled LS3 heads 11.1 compression ratio running and dyno tuned on E85 and a built 6L80e auto with a Circle D 4200rpm stall converter aluminium one piece driveshaft ZL1 fuel pump and injectors a 102 mm throttle body sheet metal intake light weight all aluminum radiator car has a full interior AC and weighs 3920 with me in it MT ET Street R 305/45r17s on black star wheels and 18 inch skinnies front with black star wheels 1.4 lowering spring all the way around 25 percent under drive.pulley stainless 1 7/8 long tube headers into a stainless 3 inch X pipe cat deleted into 3 inch Flow FX case mufflers exiting the stock location Eaton limited slip and stock 3.27 gears so still cruises at 2100-2200rpm at 80mph on the highway the LS3 495 horsepower crate has a pretty mild camshaft car knocks down 1.65-1.70 60 foot times making shifts at 6600rpm redline it makes really good torque 2700-6200rpm and redlines to 6600rpm quickly car does 123mph in 3rd gear at 6600rpm car has 16,000 dollars in upgrades Matt black hood rear spoiler rear light bezels new GM bearing hubs and brake rotors and brakes car has 1800 miles on it since these upgrades sold the stock L99 engine for 3500 dollars as soon as it was pulled out it ran good to a friend with a 1984 C-10 truck
Never drive your car through the waterbox because you pull all the water up to the starting lane, go around the waterbox and backup into it
You need more practice maybe find a friend that’s a good manual driver and emulate what he does
That car is slow. My buddies old racecar ran a 5.2 second 8th mile at over 130 mph. He ran a quarter mile with it and was over 170 mph.
Racecars are built.....NOT BOUGHT !
Just making a couple passes in my daily driver 🤷🏼♂️ never said it was a racecar
learn how to drive your car before you take it to the track
He's learning in a controlled environment versus on the street and has the fortitude to publish lessons learned and mistakes he made. What more could you ask for?
@@scottstoner918 lol agree. The only place you can learn your car is at the drag strip. Being on the street and get tickets or hit with hella fines.