Why Skaters Are Quitting
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
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Chapters:
0:00 Introduction
0:18 Comparing & Expectations
1:00 Injuries
2:13 Performance Ruins Your Mental Health
3:36 Therapy
4:25 Burnout & Filming Skating
7:22 Social Anxiety
9:22 Negative VS Troll Comments - Sport
If you have video ideas to spark my inspiration please drop them below - I appreciate you!
Zack, could you do an old school 80’s board set up video
I love searching for new spots. Meeting new people via Skateboarding. Or explore a new town or city, visit their local skate shop, skateparks, spots.
Ask your friends.
Ask your Skateboarding friends or skateboarders in the parks, spots what their Skateboard set up is, spec it out and why their set up is like that.
Skateboarding essentials for a session or even a trip. What and why is it essential to them.
Just want to say thanks for your dedication .
I like this video - it's like a podcast with video. I'd like to hear the opinion of people who are deeply immersed in the culture - you, Dan, spencer etc. on what it takes to be pro in their opinion. I've always wondered if people believe once you reach a certain technical level you deserve to be pro, or if you need to contribute to skateboarding in a unique way to be pro. Not to mention all the ideas I've never considered. Anyways, that's my video idea and what I'd like to hear your and others opinion on.
Idea for content Meet up with people that have built some diy spots / backyard mini pipes and another idea is help out / film at a diy during a pour day in other cities ex. Harrison street diy in KCMO
As an old Skater, I have not quit skating but I don’t skate everyday, that doesn’t mean I don’t think about it everyday. So when it is in your blood you will always see things differently, than as a non skater
True. I evaluate every street obstacle differently all the time since i've started rollerskating. Everything is "how?", "what if" and "is it possible here?".
I've barely skated in the last 10+ yrs..but i still look at the world around me like a skater..i view everything as a possible obstacle to skate...
51 and still kicking! Glad you’re still doing it. I think guys like us don’t play sports per se but this is what I do for fun and physical health. Rock on bro be safe.
#1 Rule of skateboarding: HAVE FUN. If your not having fun on your board then your doing it wrong lol
True. I need to work on this. I take it way too serious sometimes to where its more stressful than fun. I need to change this. Thx for reminding me this w your comment. So simple, but often its the exact problem
@@chris73brown your welcome. It's ok to get frustrated. Just take a break and come back to it.
@@gameboysleepyd4277 👍. Thx
If actual fundamentals of skateboarding rules are subjective, so is this “rule” some people enjoy it as a sport and nothing more.
What if someone way of having fun on a skateboard is to push their limits, put themselves in a place where they get hurt, etc. this topic just becomes a double edged sword is a problem. People quit skateboarding because they can’t help that it’s not fun anymore. I think if you’re not part of a community, than it isn’t “fun” and most people love to say “just have fun” and not acknowledge that they sound like a religious person telling a non believer to “let God into your life” you aren’t selling any real advice. No shit you’re supposed to have fun
Hej Zack , long story longer , on my Bday 50 years old , i brought a cruiser 58mm wheels, one year later , i broke my collar bone , motorcycle accident , changed to 8.5 Peralta board 54mm wheels , now after 3 years of skating , anything popsicle 8 inches with all the concave i can get , its all the exercise and Degen a man needs , overload actually . But i did start in 1979 with my Brothers in England , we all had Penny Boards . Fast forward 44 years and i really enjoy your commitment , unique style , focus , smooth voice , and regular DIY contents , Its been a trip , so i would like to say , thanks for everything dude , You the man.
80's/90's English skater here mate..
I had to take a 2 week break from skating. I just got back on my board yesterday. I skated an empty school parking lot by myself. I pretended I was in a contest. I used what little I had as my personal skatepark. I had fun, I felt that I got refreshed, and now I am itching to go out and skate. I hope my experience is helpful. 🤙
I remember years ago Pewdiepie pointed out how BetterHelp is pretty sketchy and a bunch of CZcamsrs came out and apologized for advertising BetterHelp 🙃
Well, times have changed cause Betterhelp is everywhere and likely crushing it, so getting on their Affiliate Program is probably pretty lucrative. Plus so many skaters are fucking p****s, so why not advertise therapy to them?
i wonder if he meant to love this comment or if he just taps through all of them LMFAOOO hope the sponsor doesn't see it
Betterhelp is really good (my experience is UK based). I had an amazing therapist for about 10 months and she put me on some new good paths and I figured out a lot about myself. Can't recommend it enough tbh.
That's peer pressure man, skating with your idols 😮
I stopped skating for 30 years…1990-2020…but I never stopped thinking about skating. Then I started skating again in 2020 and haven’t stopped. Too much fun and keeps me sane.
Just do what you love! We love watching that the most. Thankful for all your effort 🙏
i think people are quitting also because of social media cliques and in person cliques where if you arent local or arent a homie you get vibed out of you get snaked or people just talk sh** and people get the idea that because they arent "better" or they cant "keep up with the locals" they just give up
People just can't be independent anymore and when they are they're scared show it to the world.
That's the real problem. Who gives a fuck about others opinions and if they question yours then that's only them admiting to questioning their own most of the time
It’s always been that way, skateboard by yourself is the way to go. If it is good enough for Rodney Mullen then it’s good enough for me. Skateboarding for me is single just me. I never have had a bad session at a skatepark tho people are always cool and I always make friends every time usually with the best skaters there lol so maybe it’s just being open to people and skating your best. People usually are cool 😎 at most skateparks in California.
@@TRAVIESO_NA damn respect🙏🏽🤘🏽see your lucky, im sure spots in cali are the same but nyc sucks for skating there are park here that have homeless ppl in it that get aggressive for no reason there are people here who like to steal other ppls stuff at the park theres bird poop everywhere around the parks the people wanna be "hometown heros" and gatekeep things the parks are built wrong theres just so many bad things here to talk about yet nobody wants to listen its sad
That's funny you say keeping up with the locals. Every skatepark is different especially at different times. What I realized is consistency is key, even if you are starting out, just keep doing what you are doing as long as you are having fun. That is literally the most important part, if you are smiling, even when you go down, you are winning and doing it right. If you are pissed off and angry, then maybe a break of skating is needed.
10 years ago I decided to take a brake from skateboarding due to life priorities. problems after problems came by and decided to go back to skateboarding it was pure therapy to me. I never felt so alive and happy after I step on a board
I think you are right about many of the points you made Zack, I would just add a few things. CZcams skaters struggle with mental health that highly stems from burnout (not always the case), it takes a certain kind of person to make videos, specially of themselves and puts them out there for others to judge; burnout happens more when you take something you love and make it into a job that pays the bills, like you said it takes away from the creativity. As a therapist I have a theory that social anxiety is at an all time high because of social media; social media has created parasocial relationships, where viewers feel connected to the media creators, but it’s only a one way interaction, therefore the viewer does not learn how to socialize, and feels awkward when they try to. Living in the virtual world has taken away from real world social interactions.
Well said!
mental health is a psy-op & demoralization campaign. weird how it's always privileged westerners living in their privileged environments always talking about this stuff. you guys are so up your own asses you've lost perspective on yourselves and how pampered & entitled you really come across to the rest of the world.
@@ZackDowdyreply more please 🙏 the skating the moon skatepark..Where is it ?
54 skating since 79 and I'm pretty bored of it, but still enjoy watching the progression...
love the perspective on everything, very relatable
ive been having alot of struggles with this type of stuff because im new to the "internet" space as a skateboarder uploading content to see progression threw my skateboarding
No one ever stops skating, they just take a break. Sometimes the break is weeks, months, or even years.
You’re awesome, Zach. Appreciate you. Keep being you and keep making vids you care about. We’ll keep watching.
Thanks for sharing this hits home for me man. Appreciate you mate.
Love your content...now that I'm injured (hand like you) I really appreciate this kind of vids...Thnx for keeping filming and sharing the word🚨
i really enjoy your videos man, they're put together so well
Bro! This was a very important message to put out for everyone. Thank you for doing this one! There is never negativity when talking about personal struggles and what you do to help yourself. It’s super important for people to understand that there is help out there. Even if this video only helps a few people it’s worth it! Thank you!
This was a fantastic video, you were very well spoken and brought up some great points
Thanks for this video, appreciated! Got a lot I can relate to in this, really important to have fun and not put too much pressure on always trying to get that new trick and a clip of it, can become frustrating if every time you are pushing for advancement or learning something new or worrying about always aiming to get more consistent and so on, really rewarding to just chill and roll at times, to not push for more and especially drop the need to film clips all the time, Instagram feed can be inspiring but also a toxic pressurizing thing if you see others constantly outdoing themselves or some ultra level tricks fill up your screen. Social anxiety too, relate to that at times too.. Skateboarding is all about fun and it is also about attitude, gladly mostly supportive and accepting within the community. Your video helps, thanks for sharing!
That's to great people can get speedy access to a therapist online rather than wait long waiting list on the medical system.
Thats dreadful your channel gets trolls hating you. Your videos are so amazing and inspiring and educational i enjoying watching them so much.
Wisdom! More power to your channel keep living!
Thanks for discussing all of this Zack. It's definitely complicated being a skateboarder and a youtuber. Thanks for talking about it and the mental health struggles that can go with it.
Thanks for the honesty,Dan too. respect,
Great video! Thanks for sharing your thoughs and experiences of burnout and pressure in skating. The themes you present are relavant to many industries outside of skateboarding as well. 😁👍
Great video, I really enjoy your editing style. Skating is all about the exercise for me. It’s hard to encourage others when I’m slamming the pavement and getting road rashes, but always fun to ride in a park with others. I live vicariously through skate parts and thrasher mags 😂
Very well made Video. Really enjoyed how the visuals and audio worked together
You rule brotha, love your videos and appreciate talking about therapy and sk8 struggles
❤great video. I can really identify with the feelings. It is comforting to know you're not alone. Thanks again for another good one.
I've been skating for 28 years. Nothing is going to make me quit. I just had a major shoulder surgery and once I'm cleared to go in August, it's back to pools and bowls.
Hope it’s a speedy recovery!
After 20 years off I’ve just recently gotten back into agressive inline skating and although I’m learning how to do a lot of the things I used to do as a kid on skates I’m just a few days, I find myself getting mad when I’m skating because I hold myself to a certain standard and feeling like I can’t do some of the things I used to do pisses me off
I’m glad you put it out, great skating!
Nice one bro - appreciate the honesty
This video is so important, thank you for making it
I'm in Saskatchewan and I struggle with finding others to go skate with.
i skated a small park in swift current once is that close to you by chance?
it gets harder and harder as we grow older, you gotta break out of the comfort zone and skate with younger dudes or strangers just to get motivated. its rare that a skatepark stays empty all day... spend a couple hours there and someone will show up with the same problem.
really liked this one dowdy. i need to get back on my board more..
We need more Kyle videos!
Like when you cover stopics like this, good video. Also, your back yard looks so nice.
Dude I feel all of this just as a snowboard contest creator. Both sports have the same core people and attitudes.
Been skating since the 80s. Never quit. Think about it daily. Every conversation always relates back to skating.
Nice video Zack! Keep on being creative! Ideas that came to my mind are "Essential tools and materials you must have to create DIY" and 'Built your first and easy DIY"(for beginners)
Very inspirational channel all around . Keep making San Diego awesome one D. I .Y at a time
This is a much needed video for sure... Skating is such a great thing, but it's also one of the most unforgiving and rough lifestyle for many reasons like the innate difficulty, the physical dangers, view from society or even within the skateboarding culture itself...
We are all fragile somewhere, and the fun of skating can be taken away so easily. Asking ourselves exactly what is going on behind the scenes seems more than necessary.
Legend!! Shred mountain looks so fun
Talking about the negative side doesn't make the video negative - I think its super positive and important. Keep being rad!
Appreciate that!
Interesting to listen as a gigging musician who hopped back on a skateboard recently during a creative lull with music. Sometimes the best thing to keep me interested in making music is just letting it sit for awhile and going after something else. About a year or so ago the same situation happened with youtube music producers, a lot of people getting burnt out and making "I might quit youtube" videos. I think the way our social media algorithms demand consistent content from our creators is part of the equation here in that realm as well. To counter that, there are touring bands I love who don't play the content game so intensely and only promo or share updates as things are happening. their updates become that much more special and exciting. If we're constantly digging for something to share with the internet all the time I think eventually it leaves nothing left to fulfill the creator. Anyways, enough tangents! It's been a pleasure to discover your channel through Dan and Spencer's videos. Hope to cultivate a similar supportive set of peeps in Detroit for skating. This video is a good reminder stepping back into it to take breaks and appreciate the slow progression and creative process of improving.
Great clip!
I really like the transition from the backyard to the bike. The bike shot is also different for you but it’s a good change.
Thanks for putting this out there.
Great video Zack
If you get stale on one style of skateboarding, remember there's also surfskating and longboarding! You can rotate between them as needed and as your physical ability allows.
As a old-ish skater, I have recently stopped worrying about progression and more so being thankful I have something I truly love to do which offers me so many health benefits (besides when I get injured of course)
Just got back to actually skating like two days ago, had to take time off due to constant injuries. I was still ripping around town, but I haven't attempted any tricks in almost two years now. I forgot how much I enjoyed the battle, I'm actually so glad I took off the cruiser wheels.
Thanks bro, I need more videos like this. The dark side of life is never far away
It’s all about having fun and not getting discouraged !! Once you get older it’s not the same… your style changes the trick you want to try change and obviously you don’t want to get as hurt as much ! You keep chasing that feeling that makes you feel like it did when you first skated !! Stay stoked brother !!
Hey Zack, mental health is so overlooked. Its a huge problem especially for men. As a former Disability Case Manager. I saw it all the time.
Good on you for putting this video out there. It takes a lot of courage. All the respect in the world Zack.
Needed this
As a skateboarder pushing 40 and suffering from anxiety, depression, and being a total introvert your videos are very relatable. Thank you for what you do Zack.
Great video 👍🏻
The decline of skating has nothing to do with artistry or anything it’s a list
1-toxic enviroment older skaters getting vibed out by the younger skaters thinking they own the park etc.
2-the division between different types of skaters. Street vs vert vs long boarders etc etc.
Bottom line is a lot of skaters have been straight up ass&$les and it’s just not a fun enviroment when you have a clique of 4 or 5 skaters that are friends snaking everybody else out. I’m an older guy who still skates I started in the early 80’s and I still skate albeit not at the same level as my younger days and I feel the negative vibe coming from younger skaters. Personally I skate alone or with my son and stay away from everybody.
Solid talk
I loved this video! I was thinking about making a very similar one after I saw dale deckers video and garrett ginners and john hills
Zach.
As an older skater at 47 just getting back into again… i can tell you the stoke is back, and alot of it is to do with dudes like yourself, taking the time to tell and show us.
My aim at the moment is to do my first 50/50 grind and kick back in.
Boardslide a good way and keep safe.
Just want you to know that you ate appreciated it whatever your decision is
Just know that a fire can always get to embers… but it dont take to much to get it going again. Enjoy that low heat buddy.
Love from Australia
Love to hear that!
I got back into skateboarding a little less than a year ago. I'm still not good by any means, but I skate at a few skateparks around 3-5 times a week. So far, I've had about a 90% positive experience with other skaters. I'm becoming friends/friendly with a handful now, all of whom are much more experienced than me. I think if you just have a good attitude and don't worry about what others think, the community will be good to you. I always try to practice good skatepark etiquette and it seems to work.
dude I just found your account like 2 months ago. What is there to hate?? keep it up brother! much love
i got social anxiety to G. appreciate you sharing!🙏☮
I try to not spend too much time on one trick. This helps me avoid frustration and keep it fun. I also dont go into a session expecting progression. I just expect to have fun and progression happens as i gain experience and try new things
I just wanna see you shredding with your friends and having a good time. I don’t even need a commentary personally, not that I dislike it. I do also like the transition lesson videos. Actually, would you be able to do a video on learning transition for people who skated street their whole lives? I can shred a box, flat bar, used to skate stairs, so I’m pretty comfortable on a board. I’d love to see some tips on the difference between street and transition skating, like how it feels to roll up the transition and get into different grinds rather than popping into something. But either way I’m enjoying the content.
I really want to make a video teaching someone how to skate transition over the course of a couple weeks, thanks for the kind words!
Was skating Friday morning, went to a punk show yesterday, tried skating this morning.. tough, beaten up legs, better take a little break
Ayyy Brad Comers vids are hitting so hard❤
And this, a perfect example as to why I NEVER mix passion with money(income/job).
It becomes “un” fun.
That being said, I have my issues and couldn’t do this. It’d take 20 years to edit my branching mind thinking out loud. 🤷🏻♂️
But no doubt… you are one of the few I watch on social media because you are obviously a thinker, positive… informative and not boring. It’s real.
It’s good content.
I know we differ on what we like about our boards and ride.
By knowing what you don’t like about products, made me know I would.
Whatever you do.
Do what’s good for you, always.
Being a person who hates being filmed, it’s easy to not mix.
And I am a photographer😆
Dude u are my style of skating if it was a person u also inspired me to do diy wheel wells
great video brother
easily one of the best videos ive seen in a while
A great channel!
I don't make videos about my riding so i don't really have any issues with negative comments but as i am a bit older now i do find that motivation to go riding by myself sometimes is lacking so I try to ride with my only other friend that still shreds as often as possible and that definitely helps keep me going.
Times are getting harder. Unless you got a skateboard CZcams channel, it's hard to find the time to skate with 2.5 jobs. Might start one tho!
Or have the luxury to risk getting hurt and being out of work earning no money in a shit economy. I won't do it very often now with a family to support
Video suggestion: DIY unusual skate obstacles, like that weird park bench angled thing you made a while back. I like building DIY, but I want to build outside-the-box obstacles.
Just wait until they reinvent the riser pad and trucks to help with the large blows jumps have.
for me it was serious knee injury and my inner need to constantly get better. even when i didnt feel like it. also skating in my area got boring for me, cus for real in my city there are like 4 skate spots. and i know i could have been more creative but doing similar stuff on slightly distinct obstacles stopped making me feel good. Onto all of that i also started feeling really lonely, i didnt fit with skateboarders in my area, whom all of them smoke weed or party and do drugs; alcohol, nicotine, etc. I dont know how to also point out well that at the time i was quitting i had to study more becouse i need to get into a good university and honestly just like doing maths. So quitting skating helped me drift to studying more and now i'm happier than ever about my grades and with prospects of going to a good university. I dont need to fear about completly destroying my ankles or knees while also having more time to study and i think at least when there is no summer vacation and my knee is still injured; i wont be skating no matter what
For a video idea of something that youtube has not done yet, I think it would be awesome if you could interview someone who is an expert with construction and has experience with cement. It would also be cool to have that someone show in person how the process of shaping and curing cement should be done in a diy setting somewhere.
After watching your diy content, I'm itching to start something with my crew of local guys. But we have less resources in our hands than others when it comes to time, spots, and money, so we want it to be done well and make the most of our effort lol
Does anyone know what skateboard rack he uses on his bike? I need one.
I remember when I slowed way down, and couldnt land tricks that I used to nail. It was seriously horrible. I was done. Ive recently started back up again after a very long time. My legs arent even strong enough to ollie. After day 1 my legs were killing me... Im 46 and was at my skating prime around 23. Its been so long.
I had never a bag of tricks. Neither on skate nor snowboard, but I can remember things done right. Every once in a long while. They left me that disturbing feeling that there's some more things to nail. Maybe just 10 in my whole riding life, but sooooooo real. I can't quit. I moved to surfskate whitch I fell in love with, and carving on snowboard, but quess what... I bought a regular skateboard again and I don't know how much will IT take to make a single kickflip again, but I don't want my life without a flip, grab or slide...
Don't forget that most of the viewers don't even leave comments, we just be vibing, enjoying the content, and getting inspired to out and do something ourselves. I don't usually consider leaving comments on your content (as is the case with most content) because I'm chillin in bed before or after my day and I'm not thinking too hard on anything. But you best believe I'm not sitting here hating from the comfort of my bed! Lot's of love
Quitting? noooooot. I restart after 25 years and now, at 42, i have a huge, boned kickflip and a lot of pop. I am better now. So much better. I broke a foot, 3 fingers on my hands but as Dan said, Skate is a passion. If you have it, you will have it all your life.
I changed my work to skate more :)
Great channel
The sad truth is my friend just don’t wanna skate that badly and I do but I refuse to go skate alone all the time. To me skateboarding thrives in social situations so if the friends never wanna go it’s time for me to put up the ole skateboard
A lot of ego, performance anxiety and social anxiety for alot of people. I think I varies alot from person to person depending on what stage they are in their skateboarding journey but it’s something I’m sure nearly all skateboarders deal with
Yep, lm guilty of pouring straight poison in my fun of skateboarding. Thx for this vid & topic. I already feel a tad better. Thx. But ,lll tell u what, your diy vids lately & also watchin dan alot lately & trying all his corky tricks has def put a spark to it. Im having fun w all the willy combos he does. Rock to willy fakie & the feeble to willy fakie are indeed fun af. Not serious tricks, but fun n flashy. Thx. Just mentioned this cause u interviewed him
Well said Zack! Personally, I don't understand why people post so many of their negative comments. If you got nothing positive to say, don't say anything! keep that shit to yourself..
I snapped my fn foot on mother's day skateboarding with my 13 year old daughter and I'm laying in bed watching this thank you for your videos brother
Yeah I can relate. With this awful economy I really can't afford to miss work recovering anymore. I think that's a factor too. I barely skate now
I think you should lean into the kind of content that you like making. Art that gets over-optimized for commercial uptake loses a lot of its soul. I love learning to skate from you, and hearing about your adventures and personal growth. Love your content, sending love from the high desert in Oregon.
Thanks for this video. I wouldn't really call it negative. 7 vids a week Dan? Take care. As an old skater from the 80s and 90s I'm grappling with counting down the summers of skating I have left pretty quickly. Nursing a bad sprained foot the last 7 weeks has been tougher than ever.
I noticed back in the early 2000s ppl wouldn't skate unless they had a filmer. Everything doesn't have to be 'content'. Log the f@#k off the internet and just have a good time...or as we used to say in the 80s "SHUT UP AND SKATE!"
nice work your a credit to youtube skaters
i sk8 like twice a year since i got hospitalized i m scared of going back like i use too
I want to skate but I just got so out of shape. I love watching skate videos playing skate games but I can only skate for like 10 minutes before I am exhausted.
Next time, 20 min 👍
@@ItsMe-vg4vj I will try thanks, I don’t know how I used to skate all day when I was younger lol.
Super real video
> comparing yourself to your best stuff now or previously can really hinder skaters
thank god i only started skating seriously in my thirties, there's only up for me until i hit my very-predictable physical decline!
Me too