@Dumisani Nxumalo Thus guy is suffering from being a pathological liar. A mental condition characterized by the compulsive urge to lie about matters big and small, regardless of the situation.
What a bunch of crooks they are. This guy doesn't know how stupid and ridiculous his explanations are. But that journalist is not letting himself be fooled . Good job.
And he knows that his story is not believable but I think he does not want to encriminate CR and is buying time for him to formulate a defence and a way out
Hell and heaven are right here on earth. We should be praying that these people receive their comeuppance here on earth, not in some imaginary place called hell. As the bible says, vegeance is mine, says the Lord. Pray and ask God to revenge on your behalf.
It's because eNCA, like most corporate news agencies, are controlled by globalist shareholders who don't want certain news stories published. The protests happening in Canada is against all COVID mandates and that's why it's not publicized here. Some companies here still want to insist on implementing useless vaccine mandates and don't even know or seem to care what is happening in other parts of the world.
As a SA taxpayer i smell somthing realy fishy going on here with all this billions that our government as starting to borrow nowadays. Isn't it perhaps that they got that strange feeling as it comes closer to 2024, that the end of their corrupt governance is coming to an end?So that they've got only a short time to put the country into enormous debt into making a clean sweet thus leaving the possible new government with a worse nightmare.I hope all the opposition parties take note and not to ignore all this billions that they starting to borrow nowadays in the name of covid.,because they know foreign countries dont want to invest because of our political madness and corruption.Infact the word "CORRUPTION" is becoming more popular then the word "DEMOCRACY" in SA and in Africa as a whole.So opposition parties, now is your time to make the people feel proud and take NOTE and ACT. 🙏🏻
Robbie its not lies there is no such thing as lying within ANC . The word lie doesn't exist in ANC vocabulary to be precise there is no individual called ANC when it comes to doggy dealings , corruption etc .
Ramaphosa is a deceitful liar. His office was furnished with evidence of such cases but he made sure that this is not addressed and at the same time the NPA is compromised and corrupt.
Protect Cyril from what , Because its a well known fact that ANC used state money for most of their campaigns . Infect for me He( Cyril) protected most of former ANC leaders Who used Public Funds for their campaigns.
@@Khothithambo Spoke persons their Job is to protect their organizations, Parties etc.They are what I will like to call Profesional liars that after lawyers. It's their Job to lie Protecting the intrest of those whom they are protecting Rama here Shot Himself on the foot and there is absolutely nothing the spoke person can say to justify the Painful confirmed Truth that ANC has been Public Funds to support their campaigns
We all know that there are witches and wizards among us. But it does not mean that we must not protect the members of the community because of that. Thus we must not put individuals in boxes because of that.
What everybody fails to understand is that because a President of South Africa cannot be charged and trialed for crimes during his presidency, this will fall by the wayside. Also, because the ANC operates collectively , there is no accountability and therefore one cannot focus on an individual.
As from 1:09 he say "Each one of us knows that quite a bit of money that is used in campaigns, in busing people around, in doing all manner of things...is often from state resources and public resources. And we can not kid ourselves when it comes to that". This is a statement, not a claim based on allegations as Mr Besani will want us to believe... anyway we shouldn't be surprised, to them ANC comes first and the country and its citizens comes last..
And if you take private sector funds for preferential treatment in government business deals, that equates to state capture. So anc not using state funds and rather using private sector funds is not a just alternative. Its the voters that should support the party, they should learn from the EFF. This is WHY CR17 is considered to be the hidden actual state capture.
I don't understand the obsession with semantics here. It seems to me the most important question that everyone should be focusing on is; who used the state funds for their campaign/s and how can we recover such and charge those person/s?
No, the problem is the culture not a person. This culture was labeled Zuma thru the state commission. Pinning it to someone, will result to a repeated problem. No privately supported political party for the poor will be able to stand for the people in a greedy system… the private funders greed will want returns 😂
Ramaphosa stole the money case closed, No solutions to recover R500 billion how can we recover the campaign money??? That guy must leave nje weakest president we ever had. Things that are happening on his watch.... He is very careless we should had seen the signs from Marikana.
@@thabangmgemane1615 Just remember that corruption in ANC started 30 yrs ago Ramaphosa was not in power that long. When the commission try and hold some people ACCOUNTABLE, some people loot and instigate VIOLENCE. Blame the supporters
Why is it so easy for them to access money from the state to do whatever they please?? Also, this recording feels like a well thought out plan to leak this information. It feels like everyone knew he was being recorded and was trying to come across as a "hero" willing to "fall on the sword" for other people's mistakes. This to me, just seems like strategic damage control that only a shrewd business man can come up with. They calculated the risk. The ANC is a shadow of what it was meant to be. A dark shadow that has no regard for its voters nor the country it is trying to own.
Couldn’t have said it better. The public statement and “leaked” recording fit together too well. Very safe audio clip, it mentions just enough to admit guilt but not enough to cover the entirety of the financial maladministration. He’s going to have to throw himself onto a great many swords…
Oh wise one. This is standard NWO strategy. Give the victims a small victory to take their attention off the massive destruction we have been causing since 1994. This money was for the people. When are the people going realise that the ANC does not give a shit about anyone of us. CR is one of the ANC. If they had not used the money more of us would still have jobs and wouldn't need to beg. A the guy talking for Ramaphosa is playing politician politician. They talk a lot, yet say nothing and the truth is a foreign concept. LOOK FOR WHAT THEYRE HIDING. THIS IS A DISTRACTION AS IS ESKOM AND COVID! WHAT ARE THEY DOING THAT WE MUST NOT SEE?!!!!
Can we all please vote for this news reporter to become the leader of the Hawks or SAPS.This is the type of people we need for a better and future for South Africa.
Foolish statement. One man cannot change things on his own. It takes hundreds of thousands of people to make a change. This mess would never have happened if millions of people had not voted for the ANC in the first place. Also, this dude is just asking questions that were given to him, he is just a journalist, he doesn't have the skills to head an investigation unit.
Deflection why should you drag the ANC what a dumb thing to say.It is the ANC that is using the money!This just proves to me what I have been saying for years ANC politians of late are just .....!
I don't believe he says: "...it happens a bit." I believe his words are: "...heaven(s) forbid." That line is more in tune with his regular choice of words and phrases, and expressions used. _That hardly changes the context of the leaked audio though._
Correct, it sounds more like "Heaven/s forbid." Stop me if you think you've heard this one before, but I believe they are intentionally painting a vulgar picture.
Very astute Mr. Pratt, and we ask ourselves "What Difference Does It Make?". Politics. Bleurgghh. Like some torrid love affair. Sorry for the negative sentiment, perhaps I'm just feeling very sick and ill today.
so this guy is sayin, if the public didnt know thru the state commission, they would keep this as a secret and continue using state funds for party campaigns. The ANC deserves to be dragged in the mud, protecting the ANC because the truth is out is not justification. "I would rather, than the public to hear"
Oh come on! He is saying nothing of the sort. He literally says there is danger that the public may find out what we here already know to be true and I am willing to sacrifice myself as a diversion to keep that from happening.
The NPA have to act. They have a public duty to prosecute. If the NDPP doesn’t act there is a deliberate omission of her public duty and she is personally liable for damages
@@coolplot6336 quite frankly, I don't mind who leads, as long as they do their jobs properly, stop the grand scale theft and spend the money on us the people. Then, this will become a great country.
@@coolplot6336 I don't even understand why a politician or royalty must lead a country. The whole system just reeks of corruption and abuse or power. A change must come.
Gosh, this guy is pathetic. He needs to learn a few lessons from Mac how to be a good spin doctor. Nevertheless, I expected more from Ramaphosa . A billionaire should use his own money to fund his campaigns so we don't need to hear these juicy scandals now . My Rabbi always use to say 'Whenever I hear people say I wanna go into public service, I try to keep my wallet very close to my chest or in my back pocket.'
Frankly speaking Ramaphosa must resign as a president of the country. It's okay the ANC can keep him because what he was saying It's true about the ANC cadres. They've been embezzling state funds for years.
Damon CR , as weak!!!! as he is , there very very very unfortunately is no one else to succeed What boggles mind regarding CR is the fact from lawyer like ....In the Unions to millionaire If CR could share his growth then the rest of ANC SHEEPLE Will be in a BETTER!!! Life situation
@@alexandracoetzee2755 We can sum up the ANC leadership in two words... "totally useless!" We all know why and how CR rose to the "billionaire" position. It's not because he was an "astute businessman". It's because his "New Dawn" bosses gave him the billions and he is working for them - not for South Africans. But, then again, I'm going to be accused of being a "conspirator".
This guy is trying his best to believe his own lies. Or those briefed to him. Well done interviewer for holding the line & not backing down. Why doesn't the word impeachment exist in the SA context of malaligned statesmen? Impeach CR17 for once.
Well, Lindiwe Sisulu will have an open path to the presidency of the ANC ( who do you think did the recording and why has it been released now). So get Cyril out and let's see how much better things get. If Cyril goes we best pray and hope the DA can win.. the audio clip was only released to serve the purpose of individual goals do you want these kinds of unethical people governing. They will make Zim look like a walk in the park
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 The majority of the population is unemployed or are unskilled. in terms of what the labour market requires. and if that is the case the majority of the population welcomes ZIm then they will have to live with it and not cry as to how the half or quarter manage to survive or thrive
The DA does not have capability to run the country. Look at the mess in the WC. Despite it being the most developed, they can't develop to cater for basic services, housing, water, sanitation, for the small population there.
@@NeerajLalu you don't understand the dynamics of a country if it is your belief that you will be able to patronise a mall while the majority starves. Unlike good times, bad times are shared by all. If you have to live in a gated community because crime, then you are sharing in the bad times.
RAMAPHOSA is in trouble! ZUMA's ALLIES arranged well the recording of this audio, but at the end he says he was the first to request strictly guidelines on funding companies. The question is what exactly exist as proofs and is this enough to prosecute him or those who made theses practices? He also says he would do anything to clean the image of ANC.
Baba Msholozi once said"Mina ngiyabazi bonke abatshontsha imali ngibabhekile,ngithulile nje 😂 and nobody said how can the president say he knows who are stealing money of the taxpayers and he's quite about it, I wish they could replay that clip for those who are trying to nail the president for what we all heard from people who were testifying at the Zondo Commission
That is not an acknowledgement, it is a warning to ANC that there are talks about ANC using public funds. He says we all know that it has been said. Cyril Ramaphosa is actually saying 1. There needs to be TRANSPARENCY 2. There is a need for clear guidelines on how to run champagnes. 3. He is raising a concern about allegations and expressing that he hopes it is not what is happening.
Oh please, are you trying to convince yourself. Maybe you should listen to the audio again. The first sentence: "....a lot of money, public money was used."
@@proudsaffa2357 The sentence you refer to is a quote from extracted from the inquiry's testimonies. Cyril did not drop any fresh allegations in that audio clip. Even the Scopa chairperson who is an opposition MP had difficulty trying to understand what seems to be an issue they have to look at... It is so funny that people are desperate trying to make a none story to be a real story. Worse of all is that even some opposition MP are not even buying this whole thing
I just wish the entire south Africa can watch this and see that the ANC is stealing from them. A bunch of criminals that should all be in jail for their crimes to South Africans.
You are wrong. Ramaphosa is actually protecting Zuma in this audio. Ramaphosa was referring to the campaigns up until he was in office. His campaign was pid by white monopoly capital but the ANC campaigns have been run using public money.
People. It's these type of people that give these type of answers that are running our country. Enough with grace and questions. Straight to prison. No questions asked.
To leak audio of a meeting to the public clearly shows some in NEC are spys who do not deserve to be in that committee, the former president once said "Ngiyazi abantshontshi ngumhlola,ngihlezi nje ngibabhekile baziwa yimina"if a honorably member is so sincere why did he jump this one because it is equally the same ,I think he is not loyalty him Thixo wase George goch
IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!
The South African president admits that the state funds went only to one political party which helped him and his party. The questions to be asked are who approved/allowed the sponsor of the party's campaign? How long did the president know before the state funds were used?
Media must get full story than peacemeal, president was clear to name someone whom may be ask or question when discussing in their meeting. So media must avoid perpetuating a particular narrative. For BANTU he must just shut up ......
If there isn’t a basic level of trust in the most senior person in the government, it is very difficult to operate a democratic government at all. That’s the problem with the ANC they stinks in the nostrils of decent people.
Every anc member must be thrown into jail how can we be deceived by this party this long
That guy is so shameless he can say it s raining when it is not.The type of criminality that is embedded in the ANC as a whole.
@Dumisani Nxumalo
Thus guy is suffering from being a pathological liar. A mental condition characterized by the compulsive urge to lie about matters big and small, regardless of the situation.
So we are not the only ones dealing with that problem here in Botswana?
What a bunch of crooks they are. This guy doesn't know how stupid and ridiculous his explanations are. But that journalist is not letting himself be fooled . Good job.
Anc is rotten
Remember the age old rule.
Create a problem
Provide a solution
Rinse n repeat..
We been made fools
You are right, he knows what went down, because I put it past him, that he also benefitted from the thefts,
Absolutely ridiculous. Even if caught red handed they will never accept accountability.
Why should they?
No Cyril will never fall on his sword.
They will drag this latest debacle out for 20 years or more.
Does he even have a sword to fall on?
Are we still surprise by the ANC?
No. #voetsekANC
This man is lying, shame on you, our ears aren't full of wax that we don't hear what Cyril is saying on the clip.
This guy thinks that we are fools😭
And he knows that his story is not believable but I think he does not want to encriminate CR and is buying time for him to formulate a defence and a way out
he does, we would be fools to vote for them again. They clearly don't respect our intelligence
Well everyone voted for him, so maybe we are
He doesn't think he knows 😂😂😂
He knows the majority of ANC followers are fools. He's more concerned convincing them than the rest of SA.
Why do politicians treat us like kids? I mean we hear what Cyril is saying clearly neither did he reference the Zondo commission in this recording.
We are treated like animals. Not kids. Stay dogs
Is it politicians or the media. Whose running with whose mind?
Fantastic journalism ENCA...expose the truth
You cannot say, "The president was trying to say...." How does he know that the president was trying not to say what he exactly said?
Hell is waiting with open gates for these criminals that seems untouchable..repent and come clean..
Amen in Jesus name
Hell and heaven are right here on earth. We should be praying that these people receive their comeuppance here on earth, not in some imaginary place called hell. As the bible says, vegeance is mine, says the Lord. Pray and ask God to revenge on your behalf.
Yeah. If that makes you feel better
If you ever dealt with a scammer, they got an answer for everything, end up confusing you, making you think you don't know what you know.
You are 100% correct!
Why no reporting on 26,000 Canadian truck drivers heading in Convoys to Ottawa , protesting the ridiculous Covid laws .
Because it is happening in Canada and we are on the other side of the world in South Africa.
It's because eNCA, like most corporate news agencies, are controlled by globalist shareholders who don't want certain news stories published. The protests happening in Canada is against all COVID mandates and that's why it's not publicized here. Some companies here still want to insist on implementing useless vaccine mandates and don't even know or seem to care what is happening in other parts of the world.
As a SA taxpayer i smell somthing realy fishy going on here with all this billions that our government as starting to borrow nowadays. Isn't it perhaps that they got that strange feeling as it comes closer to 2024, that the end of their corrupt governance is coming to an end?So that they've got only a short time to put the country into enormous debt into making a clean sweet thus leaving the possible new government with a worse nightmare.I hope all the opposition parties take note and not to ignore all this billions that they starting to borrow nowadays in the name of covid.,because they know foreign countries dont want to invest because of our political madness and corruption.Infact the word "CORRUPTION" is becoming more popular then the word "DEMOCRACY" in SA and in Africa as a whole.So opposition parties, now is your time to make the people feel proud and take NOTE and ACT. 🙏🏻
As long as the ANC is in power there will always be shacks and vice versa
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the shacks are the anc, who do you think keep[s voting these idiots into power!
So the anc built the shacks?
The explanation is pathetic. An obvious pack of lies
Robbie its not lies there is no such thing as lying within ANC . The word lie doesn't exist in ANC vocabulary to be precise there is no individual called ANC when it comes to doggy dealings , corruption etc .
The worst load of rubbish I have ever heard!
@@casualSimRacer3312 That's what common sense implies
But in African National Criminals that common sense is none existence 🙄
This journalist is amazing well done on this interview asks the hard questions 🔥🔥
Ramaphosa is a deceitful liar. His office was furnished with evidence of such cases but he made sure that this is not addressed and at the same time the NPA is compromised and corrupt.
I jst wish all small parties should come together and remove this people from power.
But it eill create more conflict. Of all the parties who will have the most power?
He doesn't answer the questions as being asked but his mission is to protect Cyril by all means necessary.
Protect Cyril from what , Because its a well known fact that ANC used state money for most of their campaigns . Infect for me He( Cyril) protected most of former ANC leaders Who used Public Funds for their campaigns.
@@nicodlamini7893 ANC LEADERSHIP IS CORRUPT AND THEY HAVE RUINED THE COUNTRY
@@nicodlamini7893 protecting him from falling on the sword. Listen to the questions carefully and comprehend.
@@Khothithambo Spoke persons their Job is to protect their organizations, Parties etc.They are what I will like to call Profesional liars that after lawyers.
It's their Job to lie Protecting the intrest of those whom they are protecting
Rama here Shot Himself on the foot and there is absolutely nothing the spoke person can say to justify the Painful confirmed Truth that ANC has been Public Funds to support their campaigns
@@nicodlamini7893 how do you feel about Chris Hani?
In the audio he didn't say it's an allegation but he said we all know.
Good people, don't distort what the President is saying. Listen carefully to the leaked audio.
@@trustingnobody628 What is he saying??
@@trustingnobody628 lol 🤣 they coming with their own interpretation
Exactly!
We all know that there are witches and wizards among us. But it does not mean that we must not protect the members of the community because of that. Thus we must not put individuals in boxes because of that.
The guy from Sasolburg is irritating man , he's explaining nonsense!!
How's this guy... Just explain nonsense....
What everybody fails to understand is that because a President of South Africa cannot be charged and trialed for crimes during his presidency, this will fall by the wayside. Also, because the ANC operates collectively , there is no accountability and therefore one cannot focus on an individual.
Who said a president cannot be charged or you are dreaming and typing
Why is Msholozi going to courts then?
They did it to Jacob Zuma why not him?when he is not president anymore he should be tried then.
As from 1:09 he say "Each one of us knows that quite a bit of money that is used in campaigns, in busing people around, in doing all manner of things...is often from state resources and public resources. And we can not kid ourselves when it comes to that".
This is a statement, not a claim based on allegations as Mr Besani will want us to believe... anyway we shouldn't be surprised, to them ANC comes first and the country and its citizens comes last..
How can someone be speaking so many words but still not saying anything, and repeating nothing doesn't suddenly transform into something.
If you can make a lie seems like the truth and pass a lie detector test, than you are fit to become a anc spokesperson.
the only requirement to join the anc
And if you take private sector funds for preferential treatment in government business deals, that equates to state capture. So anc not using state funds and rather using private sector funds is not a just alternative. Its the voters that should support the party, they should learn from the EFF. This is WHY CR17 is considered to be the hidden actual state capture.
The image of the ANC has long been tarnished. All the hope and excitement i had in 94 for a better future has come to nought.
I don't understand the obsession with semantics here. It seems to me the most important question that everyone should be focusing on is; who used the state funds for their campaign/s and how can we recover such and charge those person/s?
No, the problem is the culture not a person. This culture was labeled Zuma thru the state commission. Pinning it to someone, will result to a repeated problem. No privately supported political party for the poor will be able to stand for the people in a greedy system… the private funders greed will want returns 😂
Ramaphosa stole the money case closed, No solutions to recover R500 billion how can we recover the campaign money??? That guy must leave nje weakest president we ever had. Things that are happening on his watch.... He is very careless we should had seen the signs from Marikana.
HANDS OFF RAMAPHOSA!!!! THAT MONEY WAS STOLEN BY ZUMA JACOB A D HIS PPL WHAT HE IS TRYING TO DO, RAMAPHOSA HERE IS TO SAY THEY MUST NOW STOP THAT
@@thabangmgemane1615
Just remember that corruption in ANC started 30 yrs ago Ramaphosa was not in power that long. When the commission try and hold some people ACCOUNTABLE, some people loot and instigate VIOLENCE.
Blame the supporters
@@doremi131 Clearly you don't know how long Ramaphosa has been in power on ANC that guy is a flop.
Give him the Booster!!
Shame your whole identity is anti vax
@@TheMagnificentGman haha you sound like them, I’m not anti vax I’m just anti THIS vaccine dummy
Hahaha...good one!
For me I think it's Evan worst than that they wanted that audio to circulate this thing is deeper than what we think.
Why is it so easy for them to access money from the state to do whatever they please?? Also, this recording feels like a well thought out plan to leak this information. It feels like everyone knew he was being recorded and was trying to come across as a "hero" willing to "fall on the sword" for other people's mistakes. This to me, just seems like strategic damage control that only a shrewd business man can come up with. They calculated the risk.
The ANC is a shadow of what it was meant to be. A dark shadow that has no regard for its voters nor the country it is trying to own.
You are smart
We are being fooled here
Crisis control before the sh*t fully hits the fan
Couldn’t have said it better. The public statement and “leaked” recording fit together too well. Very safe audio clip, it mentions just enough to admit guilt but not enough to cover the entirety of the financial maladministration. He’s going to have to throw himself onto a great many swords…
Oh wise one.
This is standard NWO strategy. Give the victims a small victory to take their attention off the massive destruction we have been causing since 1994. This money was for the people. When are the people going realise that the ANC does not give a shit about anyone of us. CR is one of the ANC. If they had not used the money more of us would still have jobs and wouldn't need to beg.
A the guy talking for Ramaphosa is playing politician politician. They talk a lot, yet say nothing and the truth is a foreign concept. LOOK FOR WHAT THEYRE HIDING. THIS IS A DISTRACTION AS IS ESKOM AND COVID!
WHAT ARE THEY DOING THAT WE MUST NOT SEE?!!!!
Can we all please vote for this news reporter to become the leader of the Hawks or SAPS.This is the type of people we need for a better and future for South Africa.
Foolish statement. One man cannot change things on his own. It takes hundreds of thousands of people to make a change. This mess would never have happened if millions of people had not voted for the ANC in the first place. Also, this dude is just asking questions that were given to him, he is just a journalist, he doesn't have the skills to head an investigation unit.
Well done to journalist not backing down due to credentials of corrupt politicians
Deflection why should you drag the ANC what a dumb thing to say.It is the ANC that is using the money!This just proves to me what I have been saying for years ANC politians of late are just .....!
This guy is insulting his mental capacity
Please assess this guy's brain 🧠 🙄
Nothing will happen.... Again and again we suffer at the hands of the corrupt!! Shameless liars
🤣🤣Sbongile can kill a person and say it's been 10 years since he saw him, Worst part he keeps a straight face. Like WHAT
Unbelievably shocking
SINONGILE WE ARE NOT FOOLS.
Ramaphosa must just Fokof . We dont want him any more. Since he is prepared to fall on the sword , lets us make him fall, for real.
@Linda Manamela
So you don't want Ramaphosa, who do you want? You want someone who is vulgar like you.
@@doremi131 been vulgar is better than been a looter what's the use of keeping the ANC while their busy misusing the public money?
I don't believe he says: "...it happens a bit."
I believe his words are: "...heaven(s) forbid."
That line is more in tune with his regular choice of words and phrases, and expressions used.
_That hardly changes the context of the leaked audio though._
Correct, it sounds more like "Heaven/s forbid." Stop me if you think you've heard this one before, but I believe they are intentionally painting a vulgar picture.
Very astute Mr. Pratt, and we ask ourselves "What Difference Does It Make?".
Politics. Bleurgghh. Like some torrid love affair.
Sorry for the negative sentiment, perhaps I'm just feeling very sick and ill today.
Heaven forbid/s you're miserable now..
Imagine what this leaked audio would have done to Joan of Arc's walkman?!!
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so this guy is sayin, if the public didnt know thru the state commission, they would keep this as a secret and continue using state funds for party campaigns. The ANC deserves to be dragged in the mud, protecting the ANC because the truth is out is not justification. "I would rather, than the public to hear"
This guys is trying to say the sky is purple when clearly its evident that he doesn't know what he's saying
This is a traitors campaign and CR is basically saying that the ANC must clean up. Normal.
No. don't be blinded by CR love.
@@VIEWMARY001 Can't be blinded after years of State Capture, time out for criminals.
Oh come on! He is saying nothing of the sort. He literally says there is danger that the public may find out what we here already know to be true and I am willing to sacrifice myself as a diversion to keep that from happening.
The NPA have to act. They have a public duty to prosecute. If the NDPP doesn’t act there is a deliberate omission of her public duty and she is personally liable for damages
Which NPA our NPA who's done nothing for years😂😂
Either the ANC dies or SA dies. The two cannot coexist!
I think this is the ultimate highlight that the ANC cannot lead South Africa... the ANC as a whole
who must lead??? DA??
@@coolplot6336 quite frankly, I don't mind who leads, as long as they do their jobs properly, stop the grand scale theft and spend the money on us the people. Then, this will become a great country.
Having been there as a youth ....My membership. I deeply regret coz the ANC is rotten to the CORE !!!
@@coolplot6336 I don't even understand why a politician or royalty must lead a country. The whole system just reeks of corruption and abuse or power. A change must come.
That guy doesn't make sense at all. Talk n talk but saying nada!!
ANC is guilty!!
Gosh, this guy is pathetic. He needs to learn a few lessons from Mac how to be a good spin doctor. Nevertheless, I expected more from Ramaphosa . A billionaire should use his own money to fund his campaigns so we don't need to hear these juicy scandals now . My Rabbi always use to say 'Whenever I hear people say I wanna go into public service, I try to keep my wallet very close to my chest or in my back pocket.'
Frankly speaking Ramaphosa must resign as a president of the country.
It's okay the ANC can keep him because what he was saying It's true about the ANC cadres. They've been embezzling state funds for years.
Damon CR , as weak!!!! as he is , there very very very unfortunately is no one else to succeed
What boggles mind regarding CR is the fact from lawyer like ....In the Unions to millionaire
If CR could share his growth then the rest of ANC SHEEPLE Will be in a BETTER!!! Life situation
@@alexandracoetzee2755 We can sum up the ANC leadership in two words... "totally useless!" We all know why and how CR rose to the "billionaire" position. It's not because he was an "astute businessman". It's because his "New Dawn" bosses gave him the billions and he is working for them - not for South Africans. But, then again, I'm going to be accused of being a "conspirator".
I love how he tells us what we heard with our own ears is wrong
He said heavens forbid
Guilty. This guy is being paid by them why would he take the side against Rhamaphosa
This guy is trying his best to believe his own lies. Or those briefed to him. Well done interviewer for holding the line & not backing down. Why doesn't the word impeachment exist in the SA context of malaligned statesmen? Impeach CR17 for once.
It's so irritating
Well, Lindiwe Sisulu will have an open path to the presidency of the ANC ( who do you think did the recording and why has it been released now). So get Cyril out and let's see how much better things get. If Cyril goes we best pray and hope the DA can win.. the audio clip was only released to serve the purpose of individual goals do you want these kinds of unethical people governing. They will make Zim look like a walk in the park
Suppose a majority of the country welcomed Zim?
@@shafiyaalgiquadra1105 The majority of the population is unemployed or are unskilled. in terms of what the labour market requires. and if that is the case the majority of the population welcomes ZIm then they will have to live with it and not cry as to how the half or quarter manage to survive or thrive
The DA does not have capability to run the country. Look at the mess in the WC. Despite it being the most developed, they can't develop to cater for basic services, housing, water, sanitation, for the small population there.
@@NeerajLalu you don't understand the dynamics of a country if it is your belief that you will be able to patronise a mall while the majority starves. Unlike good times, bad times are shared by all.
If you have to live in a gated community because crime, then you are sharing in the bad times.
@@khaya7272 it's still a lot better than the other options. Other than, I think Herman Mashaba is going to go far.
This audio say nothing but sensationalism which will fall apart.I thought there is something serious
RAMAPHOSA is in trouble! ZUMA's ALLIES arranged well the recording of this audio, but at the end he says he was the first to request strictly guidelines on funding companies. The question is what exactly exist as proofs and is this enough to prosecute him or those who made theses practices? He also says he would do anything to clean the image of ANC.
Baba Msholozi once said"Mina ngiyabazi bonke abatshontsha imali ngibabhekile,ngithulile nje 😂 and nobody said how can the president say he knows who are stealing money of the taxpayers and he's quite about it, I wish they could replay that clip for those who are trying to nail the president for what we all heard from people who were testifying at the Zondo Commission
Sibongile we are not fools
Inkinga yenu nina anc nicanga ukuthi yin kphela enihlakaniphile abanye abantu izilima...usuke la osuke khona uzobheda lana..
That line,, "try again" I loved it 👌🏾
It is the system. It was not designed to work with you but against you. Hypothetically, this is a chess game
Love the comments.. everyone is waking up. Where we go one we go all.. we need to stand together..
All the ANC cares about is the ANC. Not the country
Here again making us fools… Ramaphosa just said it clearly and we can hear by ourselves. Nothing is being taken out of context here.
He's not even ashamed for state resources for campaign than for service delivery. Julius Malema was right about this guy
Remember Ramababa and his 40+ thieves , Marikana? Where’s justice for those families of deceased. He is the Centre of much
Why is sibongile taking us around the rose bush so many times?
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Im sure he lives in a rose bush!!
It's hard to watch and listen to this guy Sibongile Besani. Where are his ears?
That is not an acknowledgement, it is a warning to ANC that there are talks about ANC using public funds. He says we all know that it has been said. Cyril Ramaphosa is actually saying
1. There needs to be TRANSPARENCY
2. There is a need for clear guidelines on how to run champagnes.
3. He is raising a concern about allegations and expressing that he hopes it is not what is happening.
Oh please, are you trying to convince yourself. Maybe you should listen to the audio again. The first sentence: "....a lot of money, public money was used."
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The sentence you refer to is a quote from extracted from the inquiry's testimonies. Cyril did not drop any fresh allegations in that audio clip. Even the Scopa chairperson who is an opposition MP had difficulty trying to understand what seems to be an issue they have to look at... It is so funny that people are desperate trying to make a none story to be a real story. Worse of all is that even some opposition MP are not even buying this whole thing
I just wish the entire south Africa can watch this and see that the ANC is stealing from them. A bunch of criminals that should all be in jail for their crimes to South Africans.
Then there will be some idiots who think Ramaphosa is not corrupt! South Africans, must remove the ANC from power!
With all respect this doesnt shock me.They are all collecting money for their own benefit.
11:22 "try again"
#Shanan is a national treasure.
Still ANC comrades they gonna protect Ramaphosa cause they scared of him and they sucking he's toes.futsek ANC come 2024
You are wrong. Ramaphosa is actually protecting Zuma in this audio. Ramaphosa was referring to the campaigns up until he was in office. His campaign was pid by white monopoly capital but the ANC campaigns have been run using public money.
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Hats off to you Mr Holomisa👍
Lame attempt to spin the unspinable, sadly something that ANC has become renowned for
Leak the full audio ... Not only one man talking
Shahaan is not neutral ... Bad journalism
Do we really expect a ANC member to answer truthfully or we are just testing their lying abilities. Because this guy is insulting our intelligence
but in next election 54 % black people will still vote anc,thats is the problem,
@@eisbeinGermany true, South African electorates are deciding from a place of fear of change.
I wonder if people know that these amounts could be in the billions...
And my people in SA will still vote fir ANC..ITS PATHETIC
People. It's these type of people that give these type of answers that are running our country. Enough with grace and questions. Straight to prison. No questions asked.
There has to be more to news than ANC corruption. I need to start my own news channel and revive the Rainbow nation dream. Wish me luck guys
Love this journalist we need ppl like him
Are you saying we need more gsys?
To leak audio of a meeting to the public clearly shows some in NEC are spys who do not deserve to be in that committee, the former president once said "Ngiyazi abantshontshi ngumhlola,ngihlezi nje ngibabhekile baziwa yimina"if a honorably member is so sincere why did he jump this one because it is equally the same ,I think he is not loyalty him Thixo wase George goch
Lol !! “too late for that isnt it”
This reporter is great 💪
We need Mac G to question this ANC members 😀
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IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!IT'S VERY CLEAR!!!!!!!!!
The South African president admits that the state funds went only to one political party which helped him and his party. The questions to be asked are who approved/allowed the sponsor of the party's campaign? How long did the president know before the state funds were used?
After years of voting them in now the citizens react. I wish our generation could of voted sooner yoh
Does anyone else think that this whole recording seems a bit staged? The recording gets leaked, they way Ramaposa speaks seems scripted...
can we have full audio please?
Media must get full story than peacemeal, president was clear to name someone whom may be ask or question when discussing in their meeting. So media must avoid perpetuating a particular narrative. For BANTU he must just shut up ......
That interview shows how condescending the ANC is, we ALL KNOW they've been using state funds but they lie so much that they believe their own lies
Glad the journalist remained intellectually intect during this interview, we all know a politician's job is to make you believe udom 🤣
what a pathetic explanation from Bhesani. Very clear audio..........and what Cyril says.
IT DOESN'T "SEEM LIKE" HE AKNOWLADGES THIS AS A FACT AND SPEAKS ABOUT HIS INTENTIONS OF DEFEATING THE ENDS OF JUSTICE
ENOUGH IS ENOUGH
The ANC needs truthful people like the PA by their side
If there isn’t a basic level of trust in the most senior person in the government, it is very difficult to operate a democratic government at all. That’s the problem with the ANC they stinks in the nostrils of decent people.
And when the ANC wins again,