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00:00 | Intro
00:50 | Initial Setup
01:23 | My Hopes
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02:34 | Cameras & Windows Hello
03:06 | Typing Experience & Kickstand
04:22 | Display
04:55 | Sound
06:39 | Reading
07:27 | Software Behavior
08:30 | Surface Pen
08:52 | Battery
09:41 | Cooling
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Man I love your videos. Many tech channels would have gone and given us a bunch of bench marks, but I donât understand those. What I do understand is that it takes a lot longer to open the notion app. Just really superb testing and understanding of general audiences I think.
Thank you!
Couldnât agree more!
The surface pro are notorious to get very hot and to destroy their own battery that swell and push the screen's glue to the point of making the screen have a curvature / bump, it's a very badly engineered device overall, and i'm saying this because i've been owning surface pro's tablets since the surface pro 2 upto surface pro 7, i had to rma 4 of them for battery swelling issue ever since the surface pro 3, the surface pro 4 and seven were the worst offender battery swelling wise. the i7 versions just generate too much heat. But people get swollen batteries with i5 too.
not to mention kickstand digging into raw skin
â@@ThisIsECAN I USE OBS STUDIO ON IT?
The rotation issue was a glitch with the firmware which has since been fixed by microsoft. I just got the update last friday and it finally got rid of this annoying issue
Same for the software keyboard not showing up. The bug was related to the laptop not entering tablet mode when the keyboard was detached. But it's been fixed and the experience has been flawless for me since then
it's imparessing that these experience ruining bugs are still happening in a device that has so many generations. I've stopped thinking about the surface after my experience with SP4
At the end of the day you have a full pc experience with some extra features not a locked out tablet experience.
Objectively is much better alternative than getting a giant iPhone with a pen for example
Indeed. It's quite versatile system. Laptop, tablet and with one USB cable potentially your multi monitor desktop setup.
I think, this comparison is not apple to apple. Surface pro is using desktop OS (Win 11) and the others just a limited mobile OS (iPad OS and Android). For my current workflow, I would choose Surface Pro despite it's performance.
Personally I think comparing it to an iPad is wrong.. it is a 2in1 but it goes without saying that itâs mainly a âlaptopâ not a tablet. Enjoyed your review and you do have some valid points đ
Your right. Ipads are luxury products for entertainment, because although their called Pro you cant use them for professional work unless you buy an Mac also.
Surfaces are 2 in 1s and the most versatile computers out there. With the Surface Dock they easily replace a desktop Pc, while Ipads are just big Iphones.
THIS. The iPad is not a 2 in 1, it's just a tablet. Not a fair comparison at all. It's like comparing a phone to a laptop. The 2 in 1 Surface Pro is supposed to be a more compact version of a laptop that can also be used as a tablet without sacrificing the laptop capabilities. Not a tablet that can also be used as a laptop. This machine is very powerful and no competitor is even close to having anything like this. The Surface Pro's competition are either very powerful tablets or literally just another laptop..
He knows, he mentioned it in 10:55
@segura9 I didn't get that far, my bad. I see he went on to compare it to the Samsung Tab with DeX. As a Samsung Galaxy flagship user, I've used DeX and it is not very good. I think he's underselling the Surface throughout this video. But I guess for the average consumer the things he does cover are what might matter the most to some..
This is essentially a powerful tablet. I don't know why you guys are upset about comparing it to an iPad when they're at the exact same form factor... Lol
Bruh your content is so detailed every question I had got answered. Thank you for that quality work. Will subscribe! â€
The surface turns it Fans on when charging to cool the battery which gets hot while charging obviously.
Keep Batteries overall health at 100% for longer
Really appreciate your trying some non-Apple devices. Sure, many Apple-heavy content creators can get by with just an iPad as their sole computing device, but for the vast majority of us (I think) who use Office programs for work, the iPad is just so difficult to use efficiently. Dragging and dropping doesnât work as it should, Files is getting better but still not great, and so on. It seems that someday weâll get to a point where Microsoft is making hardware that works as well as current Apple M series devicesâŠand similarly the iPad experience will be more useful for a non-content creator trying mainly to do computer things with further software improvementsâŠweâre just not there yet.
And what the heck is on iOS that if you launch any videostreaming app, you can't begin to move that down bar. I either have to tap skip few seconds button for like 10-20 times and after that I can drag it?!! It's on all iOS apps. Netflix, Viaplay, SkyShowTime etc. I so pissed that all Apple users talk like its something completely unique bug free envinronment if it has mouldy apple logo on it. I finally got Mac and iOS device and BOTH have been disappointing and not being even remotely good as fans claim.
Great real world - real consumer video.
Loved the comparison with the ultra at the end.
Great job! Keep it up.
These are good.
The best review so far. Free of technical jargon, straight to the point, real world experience. Love this!
Good review, thanks. Whats a good 2 in 1 alternative to the surface pro?
Yes! Just the video I am looking for đ I am debating whether to go for Surface Pro 9 or Surface Studio Thr-00017 (i5) or Surface Studio 2. They both have the same tablet form but of course studio is heavier but I dont mind. But surface Pro 9 looks so good! And I need it for constant office use and at times photoshop and for editing videos. Do you have a video for surface studio 1 or 2? Or a suggestion which to go for đ
If you work as a graphic designer and want to use a digitizer the surface is the best Laptop with a build in Graphic Tablet and full Software Support. there is nothing quite like it and i Still use a Surface Pro 3 from 2014 and prefere it to any Ipad because Ipads just dont have any program I need to work.
Thanks I was just about to order one! Should I get the iPad or the galaxy tab tho or a aya neo kun
Excellent review. I have owned several Surfaces, and now have the Surface Pro X. I enjoy and use the the LTE feature, and use only native ARM64 apps plus Microsoft Office apps, so I don't have to use emulation which would pull down battery life. One question I have is whether the i5 processor on the 9 might offer better battery life, albeit with less power.
They offer less. I have the i5 version and battery life as well as excessive heating are the only things that bring this device down for me, and it's disappointing because they are very important aspects of the user experience. For me, the battery lasts between 3 and 4 hours and I use it for web browsing, watching videos, using office apps, and occasionally making video calls
Thanks for the great review E. I am curious if you have any experience with Dell 7320 device, as I am in the process of getting one for work and taking the 2 in 1 plunge. I am also considering going all in on my iPad Pro to replace my Mac mini and my main hardware will both be thin tablets that are very lightweight. I plan to borrow many ideas from your other videos in terms of desk setup. You do brilliant work and I really appreciate what you do.
So as I said, if you have any advice on Dell 7320 before I take the plunge.
Saw some review dell its close to sp but not there yet⊠dell always hav hardware n firmware issues after awhile their os update are always buggy n slow. Had few xps n i switched back to sp7
One thing that I really dislike is that there is no headphone jack! As a student, the surface pro seems like a great choice since it can replace the iPad for taking notes and a laptop for writing papers, but the high price PLUS the separate keyboard and pen just make it so much more expensive. I also like to play around with FL Studio on my free time as well as some simple video editing, so the base model M1 MBP 13" + iPad for notes is the best for me. Almost rocking 3 years on this machine and it's still going like a beast!
Ipad is running a mobile software and the surface is running a windows so i think the delay is reasonable. you cant complete mobile os with desktop OS
Yes you can. My mac wakes from sleep almost immediately. So Microsoft just did a terrible job.
Always enjoy your videos - but may have missed this at some point, what headphone stand are you using at 6:18?
Itâs not a stand. The phone is standing on a table
@@ThisIsE shouldâve specified sorry! I meant specifically the ones that the soundcore headphones are on âșïž, looks like it also has a wireless charger built in
I've never heard the fans of my Surface, which is excatly the same as this one
I'm even impressed by how it manages to stay cool without turning the fan On
The battery life can be very good if locked at 60 Hz. 120 Hz is so smooth though, tough choice !
??? I have this shit pro9 and the fan spinns all the time. With every turn i hear "+1000dollars paid, +1000dollars paid ...." Who wants to sit in library or lesson and concentrate with this?
same
Aw i was wanting to upgrade my fanless pro 7 to 9 due to the heat as im using it for works.. guess hav to wait for the next upgrade then..still struggling to find other device to replace surface as im stuck wit the form factor..
what is surface pro you use? and config you use?
Just one question can i install i tunes in the surface pro and then take backup/restore the iphone or ipad with it ?
As someone who owns the current M2 12.9 Ipad and a Surface Pro 7 I totally agree (and can relate) with the impressions. The surface just doesn't come close to the battery life of the ipad, and the fans spinning up when charging or just randomly is frustrating. That said, having a fully functional w10 OS is just so handy and the only thing that will be holding me back from getting the next iteration of surface pro is the performance on the fanless model. If it can game decently too would be a major plus!
I just like your delivery. You're funny and engaging. đ đ
Got work tonight, but I will subscribe and come back to this video later. I am thinking of replacing my Surface Go 3 with this Surface Pro 9. The battery on Surface Go 3 is the poorest battery I have ever seen on a computer.
Does the Surface Pro 9 suffer from battery drain when device is off like previous models?
Was looking at this to upgrade over my iPad Pro but looks like Iâll wait till a true upgrade comes along
The biggest issue I have with the Surface line rests with the battery. I've read that it's nearly impossible to replace, with certain owners relaying that their battery life is basically nonexistent, following the first year of ownership, meaning that some have reported that they have to be constantly plugged into a power source, in order to use the device.
This is EXACTLY what happened to my moms surface.
@@CodeXana I'm sorry that happened to your moms surface. Were it not for the battery problems, I would've happily purchased one. I like the functionality and the form factor.
It used to be like that. Surface pro 9 seems to work ok unplugged
Where can I get the same Apple Watch bands? They're so cool!
This is some amazing video editing!
What kind of sling/backpack are you using at 2:21? đ€€
I have both the iPad and Surface Pro 9. With the latest updates, the Surface is a dream to use.The iPad is good for content viewing. I reach for the Surface when I need to get stuff done.
I love using it, but it gets so darn warm and the battery life is terrible for that same reason.
Iâm wanting to take notes and Microsoft Word + Excel some things.
Eventually maybe some 3D printingâŠwhich should I go with, iPad or Surface?
Thanks for the video. Helped me way the pros and cons of buying a surface pro 9.
Glad I could help!
Damn man, you always have amazing wallpapers on your devices!
Thanks đ
@@ThisIsEYeah they are great, but Iâm here for the third time asking for one of your walls featured in the thumbnail of last 3rd video. I still donât have it even after purchasing the pack :/
As a previous surface user this is exactly my experience.
Itâs a flawed laptop and a flawed tablet, it isnât quite up to scratch at being either
It is sad indeed
I have the same specs with my surface laptop 4, similar experiences! I knew once the fans started, he wasnât going to be a fan of it! đ
I would add: Microsoft introduced us to 3:2 screens. They also took the hybrid category mainstream. iPad users wanting a more desktop experience? Blame the Surface Pro. IMO my pet peeves about this product is the weight distribution (it's all in the screen) and poor performance per watt CPUs. Still the iPad Pro is in the lead if you don't need corporate/desktop/more technical apps. Good video! đđ
When will You make a video comparing with s9 ultra? Or at least review the s9 ultra!
đ€đ§All I know is I switched to the Surface Pro many years ago and it was the best decision for me. I literally canât ever go back to using a laptop. I used to be a diehard HP / Lenovo user. I usually would get a new Surface Pro every two years BUT COVID messed me up with my Surface Pro cycling process so here I am getting a Surface Pro 9. I hate that they took away the earphone jack. Iâm a little nervous because of the mixed reviews because Iâm expecting it to be as amazing as the one that Iâm currently replacing because it is âdyingâ (I should have replaced it 2 years ago & definitely a year ago). đ©
Saw your post and wanted to add. I quite like the Surface Pro line. I use iPads also so in both systems.
I like the idea of having just a screen to work off as the keyboard can be Bluetooth and if the surface is on a stand I can have it head height for a better viewing angle.
Only gripes are battery life and with the 9⊠I guess you will save a lot as they depreciate fast. After 6 months you get amazing deals but at the same time you are close to being one gen of chop behind and these intel chips are not efficient.
@@RemofRenaissance - đ I truly enjoyed your post. You make some good points. Iâve come to realize that these companies donât care what I think so I try to be like water and adapt. When you mentioned that you also use the iPad, you reminded me that when I first switched to the Surface Pro I also had an iPad that I used at the time. I would switch between the two and use them at the same time for various reasons. I was very proud of & happy to have my iPad. I was an early iPad adopter with the first gen and have had several but after a short while I was found myself using my Surface Pro exclusively. NO ONE is making me say this, but I literally only need the Surface Pro. I keep my files on an external hard drive. I work on important projects and I can âplug & playâ on any device if one âcrashes or diesââŠI donât miss a beat. đ So far I love the Surface Pro 9. Iâm not having any issues. I donât like NOT having the headphone jack, but like with my iPhoneâŠI will eventually get over itâŠđ I donât like NOT having the USB portâŠbut I have the dongle / adapter thingy and Iâm getting over NOT having it. đ Iâm learning to appreciate the two Thunderboltá”áŽč 4 USB-CÂź ports that I do have.đ Wishing you the best in 2024. đđ
@@lovingatlanta You are welcome and I could have said more. Many people bash the Surface Pro lineup but as you say it is really useful. I also had the first iPad too and find it great using alongside a Windows device. Photo edits and some quick note taking I do on the iPad.
I never responded to your comment on purchase. I think you will be happy with the SP9 if coming from a SP7. The build quality and display are great and I only have the base configuration (8GB Ram and i5) but really impressed with the speed. I was lucky enough for my workplace to give me a Surface Pro 5 and it lasted years. Only the battery life was an issue so that convinced me to get a personal one.
Price can also be an issue which is why I went for 8GB RAM (perhaps I will regret) but it copes with the spreadsheet work I do and data analysis. But if you time it now, you will get a 16GB machine for the price that 8GB was.
Happy 2024 to you also and like I said the ability to put on a stand and have no keyboard in the way is seriously underrated for the SP series and remember - you can reuse your old Surface Pen so yo don'ty need to buy the new ones!
@@lovingatlanta Also if you can - maybe hold out till later in 2024 for the updated Surface Pro. Ofcourse it will be more expensive but I think they will fix the battery life problem as the newer processors are more power efficient.
ps. As a Brit, I hope one day I get to see Atlanta! I have done NY and Cali but Atlanta is a must!
@@RemofRenaissance - đGood points. I think you can make do with the 8GB if you choose to store files on an external portable Hard Drive (thatâs what I do) I mostly started to things that way in case the system ever crashed I can just move to another machine and keep moving. đ
Cheers and Happy New Year.đ
The problem with Surface NVME SSD is that... it doesn't support any standard off-the-shelf NVME SSDs.. I thought it would so I bought and shoved it in and it didnt work, so I did some research and found that a lot of people are having the same problem due to firmware not supporting PCIE 4. You could apply some custom patch to make it work but thats not really ideal.
I have been struggling with an M1 iPad Pro for the last two years, but I am just fed up with the compromises I have to make on software. I bought the iPad because of all the hype over iPadOS 15.4 supposedly being able to run full desktop apps. I travel abroad a lot for work, and I have for a long time had a "travel personal tech" bag packed that goes under an aircraft seat while my stuffed work laptop bag goes in overhead storage. The bag has everything I need to stay charged and connected on the move, including a 20,000 mAh power bank. So the battery life doesn't bother me too much. It's mainly a proper file manager and the ability to run full desktop apps that led me to sideline my iPad to content consumption as I bought my fourth Surface Pro.
I almost bought it, Your great review changed my mind. + I subscribed
Thanks for the sub!
man i own the ipad and i dream of it just converting to a light version of mac OS when paired with a keyboard... that would be so epic, but probably the end of the Macbook Air lmao
â€â€thank you so much for this video, so the only reason to buy it, is for its looks. I have been waiting to buy it from very long, lets see if the surface pro x brings anything further improvements.
Great machine for patience training
Your surface 9 can connect external 4k monitor by using type c?
Yes, is that surprising?
Wait a min... it takes that long to open Notion app????
was that iPad actually off or just hibernation.
The difference between an Ipad and this is with an IPad you have specific uses, with this, you have everything.
That's the exact one I was looking at buying.
An iPad boot up should be compared to something such as the Galaxy Tab s9 or Tab s9 Ultra. Not a 2 in One device such as Suface Pro. Not a fair comparison at all in that regards.
pretty sure if iPad is fully turned off, it also takes long to boot up. Maybe even takes longer compared to Windows
11:00 Pen and Keyboard arent included with an Ipad either. You can Get a used pro 7 with Type Cover a Pen and a Bluetooth Mouse for around 500âŹ. No Ipad could compare to that.
Please tell me i go live a lot with an OBS Studio and, at the same time, run some programs in background, which requires a heavy spec machine. Can Surface Pro 9 i7 handle it without heating up? Or should i just go for Surface Studio 2. Please reply to me đ .
Not the machine for the requirements
alright thank you
Can I make and receive calls and sms on this thing?
The main advantage of a Surface is that you can install Windows programs on it. If you going to only use it to write notes and watch content, then yes the Ipad is the better option. Do you want to install architectural, editing and other complex programs, then it is better to go for a Surface. It is mainly a laptop, but also have the advantage of the touchscreen. On an ipad you can only install apps, no programs.
only if windows laptops have better battery efficiency. I got an ipad pro just because i needed something lighter to carry. if macbooks did gaming i'd switch in a heartbeat, unitl then i gotta carry my 5 kg gaming laptop. love ur vidoes and newsletter
It sounds nice but I think you have some echo spots in your house If I heard correctly
Just watched this and the S9 Ultra video, very interresting as well as different from other reviews.
However it would be nice to hear your opinion on the S9 plus though, especially in comparison to the surface. The S9 plus is more portable and comparable in size to the surface, but I wonder if it can meet your work requirements better than the surface too?
I have a new video on the Ultra
Probably one of the best reviews i've watched.
Thank you!
Iâm a software engineer, and Iâve been using the surface pro 9 for work for about 6 months now.
Putting it through its paces with very highly demanding tasks and workloads, and just like you, I find it great to type on because of the keyboard and the screen.
When it comes to performance Iâve noticed that the SSD is a huge bottleneck in this device and if upgraded it would yield vast improvements in opening apps, waking up, logging in etc.
also switching to âperformanceâ in the battery profile makes a huge difference, given that a charger is plugged in⊠:)
hey im going to study computer science, im looking to buy this laptop, should i buy it ?
Hey Simon, did you buy the Intel or ARM version? One big concern that I have with ARM is its lack of compatibility with many software out there. Also, the ARM version comes with a smaller SSD. I would really love to have a fanless and more energy-efficient device, but I think that this compatibility headache is just not worth it.
i tell you for the price point it is a much better product than the Ipad pro or even the galaxy tab s9+.. if only the surface pro series would come with a 5g-6g sim capability. the only drawback is it is not steady on a lap situation. Ipad pro and its accessories have fixed that problem
we want a vieo on the tab s9+...yes we do...and yes we love ur content!!
That Notion comparison was unfair.
You hadn't closed Notion on the iPad (swiping it up), so it was opening what was already stored in RAM. Windows was opening it from scratch. If you had minimised Notion or moved it to another Desktop, it would have been much closer
I love my surface
i'm sure installing linux would fix quite a bunch of software issues, but that kickstand thing really turned me off. i'll try to do some more research on other laptops
What a spot ON video !!
Thanks âșïž
A lot of the issues seem fixable with a update does anyone know if anyone these have been fixed. Like the fans always being on or the keyboard not popping up in situations
09:50 your reference to the fans on when charging - actually this is a good thing as any form of charging increases heat through all/any components where the current is passing through including the wires/connectors/battery etc. The battery heat especially would be absorbed by all areas of the tablet.
So yeah, that's actually a positive in terms of longevity of the device in my opinion.
10:00 constant cooling isn't generating allot of heat, its stopping allot of heat from building up! if it was not constantly cooling - it would be allot hotter and well... uncomfortably warm/hot
Nice review though, the Surface Pro 9 is quite a solid contender along with Samsung and Apples Tablet its a shame it's price is a little dear - I think they recently had a ÂŁ400 sale though which doesn't surprise me
Agreed on the sharpness on the lap. However this form factor keep the heat away. Normal laptop if put on the lap is super hot. But Surface won't heat up the lap.
You wonât be able to focus on the heat because of the cuts you are getting đ jk
I love you're video
Hey, I'm sorry mister, but when you compared the rotation speed with ipad you had the full freaking Photoshop launched there! And an empty IPad. Same with the next scene when you lunch Notes from fresh start, and on the IPad it is already launched and in the background.
Also, so you know - cooling doesn't generate heat. Heat has to be wenter otherwise it would melt the device
I am aware that cooling doesn't generate heat đ As for the rotation, it is precisely as swift on the iPad no matter what I have opened.
4:00 funny. I don't use laptops on my lap. Only did when I was deployed because I had to. I need a laptop to act as a replacement desktop but I don't need a keyboard because I carry a portable. If only someone would tailor a laptop to my needs.
Powerful, great screen and sound, good ram, touch screen, no keyboard, mouse or pen. Just a super powerful tablet style PC that I can plug in and setup as a work station using a Bluetooth keyboard and mouse.
when Meteor Lake comes out it will improve devices like this
Well it is windows, so there's that. As a STEM student working in a lab, I find myself quite often carrying a laptop everywhere to deal with some data, so I'd take that
I have a question
Is it possible to use the Microsoft Surface for school and programming ?
Iâd say yes, but keep in mind the battery life
@@ThisIsE it'd be fine I think since we can charge our devices at school
Thank you for your help
Actually, it's both, cause it can be used a tablet entirely without the need of the keyboard.
Not that much difference as an iPad , to double as a laptop with a connected keyboard.
I've been considering the Surface Pro recently đ Perfect timing!
can't disagree with all the negatives of the SP9. It's the same negatives since the first SP. but if you want only 1 device, it's the way to go. ipad is just a big iphone. can't even run ad blockers on the browsers. dumb.
Software behaviour - 7:28 I noticed that you were not far with windows laptop because you open photoshop on windows and you did not do the same on iOs. Do the same to the iOs and let us see.
I open Affinity Designer which is pretty much instant on the iPad
Can you share the wallpapers at 1:49 and 0:50?
You can check out my website for that: thisise.tech/store
S9 ultra review plzz
FYI, you used the wrong English idiom there when you said you "pulled the plug"... The expression we would normally see here is "pulled the trigger" because shopping is thought of as a kind of hunting, because at the end of both you "bag it" and take it home with you... The idiom "pull the plug" is used when executive authority is used to end some sort of project, usually abruptly and prematurely, with the analogy being to remove the source of power keeping it going, which in this case is usually money, or it could be done by simple fiat. đ€
Last time I had an elephant in the closet hahahah
I haven't had any of the issues you mention in this video.
You keep it at 60Hz?
@@ThisIsE 120 everyday all day. đ
â@@ThisIsEreply awaited mayety
The fans kicking in sleep when charging is probably caused by modern standby which is downloading windows updates.
i watched this after ordering my pro 9 :3, i regret not getting the android device now
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Thank you for the review, but for me it would be more worthy to review it as a laptop than as a tablet. The comparisons are simply not fair, because it's used by most people as a laptop that can be used as tablet instead of a tablet that can be used as a laptop.
My opinion remains the same in both use cases. Even as a laptop it performs average at best.
@@ThisIsEmaybe bcoz window use low power chipsets but cant argue wit the build quality⊠hope the firmware update could fix the fan issues or maybe its the processor issue which intel should fix
installing unnecessary apps first while starting to use any device is the main reason for frequent restart!
i7 256 gb, 16 gb ram is now 1099. I loved the ultra but it still is a tablet and a lot of apps are limited. After trying iPad Pro, Samsung ultra, and surface pro, I have come to a conclusion that there is no perfect and do it all device YET. (Samsung ultra and iPad Pro do not support full EPIC EMR for physicians).
what game was that you were playing ?? :pp :)
Lego Star Wars
Why nobody buys Surface Pro 9 without keyboard but with only pen?
tablet and heat u said all ! 10x
Thanks. Great video. I would be very attracted to the Samsung option except that Android is Google secure, which is to say it is not secure and on top of that, Samsung (for unknown reasons) stores some of our information on their servers. Double Jeopardy.
Comparing a tabletty laptop to a laptopy tablet isnât a fair comparision.
Nice slanderous video đč
This really captures the experience. Lol
Thanks đ
Nice. Update
Coming soon
If you want a tablet for mostly consumptions, get the S9 Ultra.
If you want a tablet/PC for productivity, get the Surface.
I have a separate video on the Ultra BTW
the best 2 in 1 was their Surface Book laptop. Then they ruined it by replacing it with a Studio laptop. I have both, several surface tablets over the years. Everything since the Surface Book has been a flop. They could very easily make a surface 9 into a new Surface Book by offering a solid keyboard with a dedicated gpu and extra battery in it.... which the Book literally is.
Why would anyone want one when they are far to overpriced
I just got an email recommendation today from Amazon for one of these with an i7, 16gb ram and 512 ssd for ÂŁ1899
Where as my Dell XPS 13 with i7, 32gb ram and a 1Tb ssd was only ÂŁ1799
Damn... and tha's Microsoft Surface Pro 9
And now 2024 when Copilot+ almost out