I Tested Viral Folding Furniture
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- čas přidán 30. 03. 2024
- I Tested Viral Folding Furniture
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Build challenge: Chris draws plans for a project for John to build, one sheet of instructions at a time, so John doesn't know what it's supposed to look like until the last sheet.
Oh that'd make him so mad. Should be fun to watch tho!
Great idea
206 pages later he realises he's been duped into building the shop-smith...
challenge with a twist: not a single thing is to scale, so John has to improvise every dimension
YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEES!!!
When it comes to projects with precise dimensions and tight tolerances, never convert the units. There will be conversion errors, there will be fractions that get rounded up/down and add up to compound errors which will lead to headaches
Not to mention had he stayed with metric and just got a metric ruler he would have found out how easy it is to work with in comparison, I'm pretty sure it would be useful for future internet projects as well.
@@scratastic1you just don’t understand Americans. Getting them away from godawful fractions of an inch is like taking them to the dentist to get their teeth pulled. I’m Canadian so this is only partially true for myself.
The error also gets compounded if you are stacking conversions on conversions (working from the last part rather than a common zero) and multiplied by the number of parts. A single 1/16 is negligible for a lot of things, 60 1/16th is almost 4”
Another thing with the door he made that needed the plain, he could have saved a Lot of issues if he just cut a recess into the bit of the Handle he already had for the plain to fit into and then add two holes to it and three holes to the plain to keep the Handle level with the plain. Yes of course it might look a little off if he doesn't pretty it up but it wouldn't be too bad and the plain wouldnt have been "free floating" making him need to add a brace at the edge of the cabinet with Magnets (if he was afraid it wouldnt easily allow it to turn he could have made the three holes pin holes allowing the wood to still turn). Here is how the plain would look in this case:
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The middle hole of the plain would be where the Handle would be
Anybody who thinks these viral TikTok videos of folding desks are done in a day by someone in their shed is deluding themselves. They have obviously spent countless hours designing and perfecting the end result before shooting the final video. I love John’s videos for their honesty and genuineness showing warts and all. 😊
Everything on that platform is fake or staged. Once you realize that, it makes more sense.
On the tik tok, it doesn't show even the whole movement of the mechanism.
Or ya know call me crazy...........the video was just sped up fast so it can fit into a minute long format.@@thezfunk
Any normal person knows that
I am a weaver... married to a woodworker/furniture maker. It is AMAZING how similar these fine crafts are! So much goes in to the planing and prep, tweaking, covering mistakes, etc, to ensure a beautiful, functional final product- literally hours and hours- and then once things come together, it seems to go so quickly. Bravo on the folding desk. I would use this in a second!
It really goes to show that tasks can use entirely different materials and tools, but at the end of the day it's problem solving, patience, and visuospatial imagination.
It would be really interesting to see you do a project, just completely in the metric system. would be interesting to see where the challenges are, are they mostly internal because your just not used to it, or are there problems with getting wood only in imperial sizes or something or is imedialtly everything just plain better (unlikely). would love to see it!
The best thing about your demonstrations is you show the struggles you go through. Too many other channels show a perfect build which you can’t follow. Thanks for the screw-ups 😊
Amen. I agree. That makes it real
@@lewiskemp5893Their lack of skills is very real... and shocking.
Absolutely, almost makes him seem human. But he doesn't swear nearly as much as I do when I'm trying something new.
I do appreciate that, however, his stress actually stresses me out. Pros and cons
Poor guy didn't realize there are tolerance built in..😅
As a German i find it so funny how you guys struggle and still stick to your imperial system.
Everything gets easier in metric.
The moment he said they had converted it to imperial I knew they had fucked up.
Yeah maybe thats why we dont have woodworking shops like this here in Germany.
As an American, I whole heartedly agree.
besides it's not just europe that uses the metric system. it's just the majority of murrica refusing to adapt to the rest of the world.
I'm Brazilian and I don't understand why Americans are so proud of a system that is pure bullshit, even England uses metric already. Imperial is bad even in the name...
Im a machinist so we use decimal measurements instead of fractional but we just divide or multiply by 25.4 for millimeters or 2.54 for centimeters to get our imperial sizes in decimal form. Im also canadian and spent my whole life using metric measurement to then join a trade that uses mostly imperial. But 1 inch is 25.4 mm or 2.54 centimeters and although its very rare to see .254 metres. A program helps for when you do lots of them but thats the basic conversion. And then if you have a drill chart its easy to find your decimal size in imperial and just convert to fractional
I only learned imperial for reading books in the original English and I mostly go by feeling but two inches are also like 5cm to useful amounts of precision and a foot is like 30
Best Malecki quote ever!! "I can't talk, I don't know what I'm doing!" 🤣
As a sewer, sometimes it's easier just to use inches. Sometimes cm. It just depends on the pattern 😂 it takes time, but simply using the measurements straight, if you don't need to adjust, follow the pattern and it will be fine.
The bit that made me chuckle the most, finishing the two triangles... "That took two hours". We've all been there! "I'll just quickly make this thing..." half a day later and we're still faffing.
Great vid John & Co.
The secret to projects like the wall desk is that you don't measure or even plan for it to be a specific size. You build it and cut and drill each piece to fit as you go. Then you just show the final assembly like you had planned it all along.
I see you popped magnets for the door handle. It made me think you could pop magnets around the frame in all the edges that touch in both positions so when it gets close it gently snap pulls into a flat position, in both orientations. Just a thought.
My thoughts exactly. I’m thinking on the upper and lower right corners when its closed. So when it is opened, those two corners meet in the middle and snap together, making it more stable.
I was thinking the same thing!
30:55 love the candid reality of problem solving. It’s all part of the process of discovery. Great Video John!!!
Just accept it the metric system is better for anything that requires precision. Imperial is fine for rough work or stud walling etc but for any kind of precise carpentry/joinery metric is far superior
I’ll never admit it. I’ve seen some of the ridiculously stupidly simple tools that craftsmen have used for precision measuring, things that were used long before metric nor imperial were standardized. One isn’t better than the other except in which one you’re currently using
@@michaelyoung7261Metric is much easier and consistent, also more precise.
@@michaelyoung7261As an American, metric is the superior system.
10, 10, 10 vs 12, 36, however many feet a mile is because it's so arbitrary and stupid.
Same for volume and weight. 10 vs arbitrary numbers with no consistency.
Metric sucks! Woodworkers dont know thousands of an inch.😮
It has nothing to do with one being more precise than the other. Cus that's not even true. Each unit system has more and more precise units down to the plank length. It's all about the individual skill in making precise cuts and measurements and if you're converting between the two you will need to use sufficient significant figures to end up with an accurate conversion.
That being said, the meteric system obviously makes more sense since every unit is base 10.
My favorite projects you do are the ones like this. You know... the super complicated ones where everyone, including YOU, is seeming shocked to find out what you made and that it works almost as planned. I really enjoy every Sunday. Great stuff as always, Thanks for a great start to the day.
I love this channel! Near the end though, John says "I'll do som tidying up", these are things I'd kinda like to see. He runs into problems early on, and moves forward, where the rest of us just throw it in the trash, being able to see what he does to fix it in flight would be super cool. Love this channel!
Hey thats me, excellent execution John!
Would love to see you compare the 10-in-1 type tools with the single use type tools and see if they are really worth it.
watching someone work on a project and hate every second of it and then love it at the end is truly the definition of art
To be fair. For that cabinet they give about half an inch between the doors, and the cut the video between pulling to start opening it and pushing to finish opening it so they cut the part where it goes all wobbly and weird
38:58 minutes of examples, that the metric system is superior
Some folding stuff is super cool. I have had a concept idea for a travel trailer/motor home this a fold out rooms ( you can google these concepts and products) as they add massive amount of square footage to a trailer where slide outs do not. The only thing is they offer no way for furniture in it. For example you can add a room about 8 feet wide by 7 feet deep and 7 feet tall in a standard size trailer with a ceiling height of 8 foot. When folded up it would only take up about 1 foot thick on the interior space and could offer a whole host of furniture option built in to the walls and stored in to the walls. If you account for the roof, floor, side walls and the front wall being 3 inches thick. Go a bit thicker for more storage spaces. You could pretty much get 2 layers of 3/4" plywood folding stuff out of it. Everything stored right in part of the wall and or folds out from the wall. The idea is there and while it might take you longer to set up you could very well have a 40 foot trailer that normally has around 300 square feet of area expand to nearly 900. This is the size of a small apartment. In theory you could have a 3 bedroom 1 bath and kitchen with dining room and living room in a trailer. The options are endless. Then if you were to put solar on the roof and then solar on the walls ( the walls become roof when you expand ) you could have a really nice solar array of nearly 15kwh.
Aaaand this is why metric measurements are standard while weird unit (imperial) are not 😂
It's not that standard units of measurement are useless for wood working, because most projects do not require more precise measurements using metric units of measurement, such as these very complicated mechanical projects.
My thoughts exactly, metric is better when you are doing anything smaller than half an inch
Just use thousandth of inches. Because I am machinest
Ngl trying to figure out what eighths or sixteenth is bigger.
Makes fun about metrics. 🤣
Great job and love seeing all the struggle and fine tuning! I just wanna point out that your version of the twisty door is done with waaay less leeway inbetween the top and bottom halves compared with the reference video. Bigger gap I think would have solved the turning problem easier since you have more space to play with
The moment he said I know you’re on the toilet killed me. 😂😂😂 I had barely been on the toilet for a minute.
I had just sat down, literally as he said it and got really weirded out that he could see me except I knew I had started the video before going to sleep paused and picked it up before walking into the bathroom...
Just found your channel for couples of days now, and ive been binge watching ur videos both here and in ur second channel. Always love ur enthusiastic attitude in every video!!!
Just want to say I appreciate you all for going through this. I'd have chucked it in the scraps bin and gone for lunch about halfway through. They look great at the end. Well done for superhuman persistence!
Most of the mistakes comes from not using the metric system
Nah. 😁
It’s easier for you since you’re used to using it. Inches work just fine.😊
@@keithpovec6462 Just try it sometimes and you immediately find out why metric is so much easier,, only have to be able to count to 10. And in this use case with converting units it's almost impossible to get it right with such tight limits, too much lost with rounding numbers up or down.
@@keithpovec6462fraction math is objectively more error prone than integer math, I still think in inches tho.
Fighting over measuring methods is just embarrassing. They both have good and bad and your not better for using either
Your persistence and resolve are amazing John. Great job.
I really appreciate that you show the struggles. Makes complex projects like this seem less scary.
I love these videos, as not only is it just a cool project, but it shows that even professionals struggle to get things right every time. It is inspiring and goes to show you that the end product is cool, but the process of over coming an obstacle is the best thing you get from it. Great work!
Awesome build, I love it when people get out of their comfort zone. I would love to see you building a guitar!
Petition to get John to abandon "bald eagle per square PBR" and start using metric for his furniture from now on
Monday to Saturday, I think I am an ok woodworker; Sunday, I watch John and relearn that I am nothing. John, thank you for keeping my ego in check
Very nice build. Super entertaining video. Not the most practical table, but great fun to watch you build it.
I have an idea for a build (or carve...), but I am not sure, I can explain it; from 1 piece of wood cut 3 (or more) interlocking/interlacing/interlinking pieces (each piece do what chain links do). Once cut, you should be able to tilt the 3 (or more) pieces out into a double cone shape, with the two cone tips on top of each other. When closed, they lie next to each other in the length of the original piece of wood - much longer than wide, for instance 20 " to 30" long, but only 4" x 4' square.
Flipped out into the double cone shape it should be able to function as legs for a small coffee table.
I hope, that makes sense. It might have a name, but I don't know it.
The Asian guy achieved that precision on his living room floor because he used metric. 😂
Love these types of vids John I just tried my first ever epoxy river table at the age of 15 and hoping to get my first sale on Etsy so thanks for there types of vids they rlly help
Build Challenge: John works through an entire project with calm and patience.
Nice having the sawstop but I still wouldn't have pulled that slice of wood out from the blade at 4:17 with it spinning.
Ya. I did a double take. Hack go rewind. I was like no way did he put his hand that close. You know better john!😅
I was wondering if that’s what I really saw, made my stomach cringe a bit🤣
Reminds me of the saying, You can't fix stupid.❤❤❤
I want that folding desk you just made. 😢 ❤
It's so beautiful! 😍
Always love a good John Malecki video!
This was incredible to watch! I love that you try stuff you've never done before.
I love how you uncover the perfectness of tiktok. The door opening looked alot smoother, but given the many pivot points, its quite janky to open, even when finished
The cabinet looks awesome, maybe a drawer handle might work better than a knob so you move both pivot points at the same time instead of dragging the bottom one along. problem would be getting to perfect length handle to matches the pivot points.
You should totally invite followers to the shop and have them go head to head building something with one person from the team as help. Whoever wins can keep their piece they build and you John judge the work.
You can't do that today in the sue happy world today. Sign waivers maybe but if someone got hurt for example
Too many liabilities.
@@davidwibben9886 agreed but it would be fun. Make a game of it, ask the contestant to say the price of the build and if it is within $300 or whatever they get to keep whatever John builds.
This sounds like fun in concept, but he has an actual shop to run. I guarantee there’s a ton of things being built for customers when working on CZcams content.
@@NaughtyShepherd understandable
Thanks for making this video, i really enjoyed the longer one. Each of these projects could have been their own video, but I liked having 2 in one episode
You need a Ron Swanson Funko Pop for your shop!
Thanks for keeping it real and not just showing all the polished work. Sometimes, you just have to adjust things to move forward. Great job and they both turned out good.
The first time you make anything it is by definition a prototype. So you cannot expect it to come out perfectly. When a good furniture maker approaches a new project they will often build a prototype. So they can work out everything. They'll typically build the prototype in a lesser wood. It is the neophyte that expects perfection the first time out.
Congrats on 1M! Waiting to see what you have planned. Keep it up!
Glad to see even pros have difficulties with things like this, loved the vid, end products were cool but obviously could be better which was a relief in some ways but also inspiring.
😂 “the worry is I’m not straight “
“ HA!” 👌👌👌 shout out to the editor
Super cool John. As with such as challenging piece, could feel the desperation…then satisfaction.
Love your videos, super cool projects! 😍Congrats to 1M! 🥳 Much love from Germany, and happy Easter! ❤
John Malecki, hats off to you for taking on this woodworking challenge! It's clear you put your heart and soul into every cut and joint. Despite the ups and downs, you've emerged victorious with a masterpiece that speaks volumes about your passion and perseverance. Keep on making magic in the workshop, John - you're an inspiration to us all! ✨🪚 #woodworking #craftsman
I think you're too hard on yourself. These are absolutely beautiful! I would definitely use these in my home! You guys did a phenomenal job!! 😊
always a good day when john posts 💪💪 thanks for everything you do man
Very cool projects! I have to say, though, that one short board on the desk is driving me crazy 🤪
You always make it up as you go along by yes it was hard to follow along, you were doing what I do and think out loud quick and no one knows what your on about 😂😂 amazing video and project though, I need a none traditional door for my house, doubt it will be one like this though so much effort 😂
One thing I noticed with the door, is you could probably secure one if the pivot points in the handle to improve stability. Only one half needs to rotate. And it'll stop the netal tab poking out when trying to close it
My favorite part is 26:13 . *intense woodworking montage* "They're still off, dammit!"
Well I wasn't watching this on the toilet before, but now that you mention it... I should finish it on there. Thanks for the reminder.
You amaze me, John. "I don't know what I'm doing", well hell kid, you do a great job of faking it then! This was really enjoyable, and even though I still don't know how they work, they are really cool. Thanks for sharing.
CONGRATULATIONS ON HITTING 1 MILLION🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉 ORANG JUICE MAN
I would love to see this with different shades of deep jewel hues.
On top of the happy Easter wishes, Congratulations on the 1,000,000 subs and here is to the next couple of millions that is heading your way! Keep up the great work brother! 🎉🎉❤
Congratulations on 1 million
The triangle thingy looks cool but will get rekt anywhere near children or drunk people.
The finger pincher 5000!
Almost everything gets wrecked when it is near children and drunk people.
Congrats on the million buddy! You deserve it! Great content. I am a tool dumb dumb so I enjoy watching other people do something I can not…. Been watching your channel for years
Nice Zero Tolerance Hinderer. That’s a sweet knaf.
Do a shot every time John says 'send it'
Half the video was an ad lol. But the other half was good too.
Im so glad you finally got 1 million subscribers. I've been rooting for you.
Man I'm no woodworker but I like watching the vids you make cuz they're enjoyable
If you put magnets into the corners and centerpiece of the cabinet door, it would stay more flush with the cabinet when closed and opened too
Should put magnets between each join for the cabinet so it stays uniform and rigid when open and closed
Awesome turned out so great❤❤❤❤
BTW I love ur reality check in the videos... keep it up!
It’s gonna look sick if you build a pool table with live edges and put your logo on it using epoxy.
Also make the cue to be like a long wand sort of a thing.
Congratulations on 1 million and thank you for doing the giveaway my fingers are crossed so tight 🥰🤞🏼
John, those turned out sweet. Jump more into furniture building. You will love it. I’d love for you to tackle a beautiful coffee table with storage using tambour doors. I know you can make this and you will love building it
Congrats on 1M Subs!🎉 Love both of the builds.
Congratulations on 1 million subs.
The desk is amazing. You never quit!!😊
I eat Sunday breakfast watching your videos... not in the bathroom 😂
I'll never understand the "I don't need a measurement system that makes sense, I'd rather use imperial" mentality. I grew up thinking that mathing physical items was something I'd never be good at. It wasn't until I got a 3d printer and started working in metric as an adult that I realized I'm not bad at math, American fractions are just unnecessarily confusing?
Look, I don't know what all those lines on a ruler are in between the quarter inches, and now I'll never need to. Thanks metric!
That grab at 4:18 is terrifying mate, just turn the saw off.
Dude quick little video clip of Stumpy from Out Cold wins for sure.
Throw some magnets on the free corners of the cabinet and it should help snap it into place as well as help it wiggle less.
Also, might be able to add some wire or the like between the joints to limit how far out they can come which should help with the rigidity when opening and closing it.
Adding a gear that's fixed on either side of the center joint will also help with smoothness
maybe throw some magnets in the corners that come together when the door is open to help with alignment on the door?
Awesome builds John
Bro that cabinet is amazing!! Good job. And thank you for always showing the f ups and how you fix them
Hey John, You would be willing to share the plans for the folding desk build would you?
1M congratulations!
Congrats on the million! You guys make some really good stuff here on YT. Keep it up!
Making it real. Watching you make those was enough for me. Not a bit tempted to try those.
I love people smart who make that’s great jobs !!! Congratulations 🎉
Felxable compliant mechanisms 3d printed for the hinges and pivots might be cool to model. Basically these are wood modeled compliant mechanisms with ridgid pivots. The geometry is pretty cool.
What is great about the John builds is that nobody feels that they cant do that. You all need to have bets on who will rip that door off first.
i enjoy how in your effort to make it easier, you made it significantly harder
I am so amused you have Brenda from Bristol (where Iive!) saying “You’re joking - not another one’ was a reaction to yet another general election in the UK 🤣
Just get a ruler, tape measure or whatever with metric on it, UK ones have both, the tools don't care if you use imperial or metric so long as you're consistent and as you found out conversion will come back to bite you.
If you need to visualise how folding furniture works do a mock up with cardboard so you have a physical thing to look at and label.