Also, before dealing with Ethel, make sure you grab the Speak with Dead amulet in Act 1 dungeon (crypt where you meet Withers) or you have someone in the party who can cast Speak with Dead. Cus Ethel will have some information that opens up extra dialogue options with Mayrina, so she's not mad at you for killing Ethel.
@goreobsessed2308 that's because the caveat to Speak with Dead is corpses won't talk to their killer. The easy way around this is to cast disguise self first, then use Speak with Dead.
@@goreobsessed2308most all of the corpses in the game (excluding decapitated ones) do have dialogue post mortem, but they refuse to speak to who killed them (i.e, usually you and your party). You have to get around this by casting disguise self before you can chat with them.
If you use arcane lock on the stairs to the basement area, her ai breaks and it makes the fight easy, she may claw you if you get too close but she keeps trying to go down the locked stairs. My friend has dubbed the strat giving auntie dementia and hiding the keys.
i believe this has been patched. it does not allow you to use lock on the fireplace as it says it’s not a valid target. and the only way to access the stairs is after she goes through the fireplace barrier and at that point it’s already too late to lock the stairs because she just teleports straight to the final fight area. with that being said it is fairly easy to defeat her in one round (at least on balanced mode) before she teleports if you’re able to knock her prone with your first characters turn (kinda like in the video)
@@benjicanter9106 she actually takes one turn to teleport, then another to leave. So if you're able to get to the staircase and lock it in that window it still works.
Actually if you have someone sneaking past her while she's in conversation, they can check the fireplace, go through and arcane lock the stairs without triggering anything.
@@calcium_skeleton Katheric took me three tries on the tower and one go in the hive. Gortash lasted two rounds. But I guess that depends on the party and dice luck.
@@vond5829 i meant if you spare her then manage to kill her in act one, does the game glitch out and still give you the quest in act 3. There are now revive flowers in the act 1 fight, far as i know
The first two times I beat her, she didn't make the offer. I found out about it and tried to trigger it the next time I faced her. Had to reload to get the dialogue to trigger, then reload again when the buff didn't work. Basically, once her health is low enough, she will offer you a deal on her next turn. But people like us probably killed her before her next turn came and thus never got the offer
You have to bring her to low health but don’t kill her. Eventually she’ll surrender and after a few ability checks, she offer up a peice of her hair for a +1 stat increase.
I one-turned her in my first playthrough. When she turned invisible I used a scroll to cast shatter in her general direction, she became visible and karlach, Lazel and Shadowheart just pummeled her. Thankfully, I still searched her cellar cause lootgoblin.
I did something similar with my monk: knocked her down and stunned her, she had no chance, but I left her at about 10hp hoping to get the hair, and instead she teleported away and fully healed =(
A well placed fire arrow is also a good way of flushing out an invisible target. Unfortunately, it was a requirement of my paladin's oath to finish her off so he didn't get that extra point of charisma he really wanted.
I like to not have the +1 buff when it means that all her victims are freed, including the dwarf that she cursed and all the souls she captured and enslaved.
Probably use one or your companions to start the cutscene and talk until she sends mayrina away, then either attack, or just end the dialogue before she transforms. Then attack.
Few friends and I were all a party of duergar so we could invisible whenever we wanted and straight up assassinated her before the cutscene. You do get locked out. Not sure now though with the new patch
nope... the illusions only pop up in the dungeon. first when you go in it's an illusion then when you're fighting her in the end she casts illusions. in the house, its her
On my recent playthrough I jumped her in the house and because my monk and gales magic missle did so much damage she didn’t even have time to go back into her house and she died.
Now that this has been patched, note that you can also cheese here at a slightly higher level by casting arcane lock on her stairs. She spends all her turn trying in vain to unlock the stairs even though she can't and you judt get 10 turns to wail on her. Make sure you get rid if the redcaps though
My friends and I (3 total players) were all playing druids and took Gale with us for some assistance. When we encountered Ethel, we managed to get an initiative set up that had all of us act before her, allowing us to attack and Gale to incapacitate her with hideous laughter
You can also just use 6-8 Explosive barrels to insta kill her in the tea house. You still lose out on the bonus ASI but if youre too afraid of fighting her and losing an honor run, its an easy solution.
I basically did the same thing on my first run and wasn’t until my second that I realized there was supposed to be a while other fight accompanying it haha
I just had Gale go invis while my characted was in convo with her in her hut, go go her escape hatch and cast Arcane Lock on it. It makes her brain short circuit when she tries to run away because she keeps trying to open it and leave... Bht can't. And her attemlts will mske her move, which can trigger opportunity attacks from melee characters too. My barbarian had a blast. 😂
I did a cool in my fight with her. When she tried to use Mayrina as a body double I turned Mayrina invisible then summoned the ogers to fight for me it kinda worked out.
Bruh I just opened CZcams, it was on shorts, and I got spoiled instantly, but after hearing what that tiefling says about her potion and the unfortunate side effects, this twist makes sense
Nice didn’t know you could knock her out this way. Spent a lot of time savescumming to test if you could take her out in one turn before she TPs. Subsequent runs I let her leave though and do the encounter for the +1 ability increase
@@kasane1337 if you get her below a certain health threshold while she’s in her lair she’ll stop the fight and offer you a consumable item that’s +1 to any stat for the character that uses it if you let her go. You have to decide the stat when you get it though, not when you use it so you can’t like hold on to it and decide what to do with it later
@@mamboonthetube7652HIGHLY recommend saving mid-fight, though, just in case. First 2 times I fought her, she never made the offer before she died (I think she only makes the offer once it's her turn in combat, so if she reaches the threshold AND reaches 0 hp before her next turn, she can't make the offer). I didn't know about her offer until I found out online, so the third time I fought her, I tried to make it happen. I accidentally killed her 3 times before she made her offer (and it glitched out and didn't give me the item that grants the boost, so I had to reload again) It's incredibly broken/confusing so save if you want to take her deal 😂
Nah you should get her hair as item as the character who does this. So you can use it whenever and give to other party members. It does have to be the stat you select@@mamboonthetube7652
@@_rosmarino yes, she is there by the cooking pot where Rolan and his family stands if u convince them to stay. Iirc she asks u to eat some good to regain your strength and spoiler The injured Tiefling inside that locked house(near the cell where the goblin is locked up) will tell u that the old woman gave her a potion that made her courageous as she wanted but also came with a side effect that paralysed her
Taking the +1 year intimidation buff that gives you disadvantage on perception checks over the see invisible enemies buff was my biggest regret so far in my first play through
Just set 4 exploding barrels around her, 5 for good measure and use a fire arrow to light them up, easiest method, always collect boxes and explosive barrrels and send them to camp, really useful for cheesing fights
I do this but trade first if you buy her entire stock and then sell every longsword goblin simitar and dagger she will have them in her inventory for you to take them and sell again
If you block the fireplace entrance you can force her to stay in the house and easily kill her then proceed into her dungeon where everyone is free of her curses and all traps are disabled
here's how i did it post patch. use minor illusion on the goat shaped redcaps so you can lure them away for a swift ass beating. when you go into her tree house when you're fighting the masks. get them together with minor illusion before combat and use an aoe spell or something to that effect. get an ice arrow or bottle of water from anywhere when ethel throws fire on the girls cage put the fire out immediately
Best way to defeat elthal. Get a wizard or sorc lvl 4. Bring 1-2 lvl 2 arcane cultivations. When she summons clones. Use magic missle upcasted. To target every single copy. It's guaranteed hit, and will disple all of them except the real one. Have a strength character and use a potion of vaulting, and longstrider. So not only can ur str character get right on top her, any spell she attempts to cast will have Disadvantage if not the str character. (Which you can pot Heroism elixar on for extra health or hill giant that you should have farmed early game). A few way to deal extra damage is hold person for Melee crits, halt to skip turn, speed potion to attempt either 2 times per turn. There's no better combo to defeat her easily. And if on tactician, fly potion is stronger, bloodlust on rouge (dual xbow) can shoot one clone and gain action back. (3 actions to shot mutiple special arrows).
I remember during the fight I pushed her into the void and when she came back in act 3 I was like "this some comic book shit i suppose I did never actually see her die"
Smaller trick to help with her boss fight; the tadpole effect that causes a stat drain only effects the main Ethyl; any copies or decoys wont have the condition, and the real her can easily be identified ^^
I defeated her in her hag form before she could make it down to her hole and I'm honestly just as surprised as you are that I did. No tricks, no barrels, just monk, barbarian, wizard and cleric
I used fog in between her and Mayrina then save scummed and stole all of her stuff. This made her glitch and not respond when I tried to talk to her, but you can still force the quest by going downstairs. She was still glitchy and didn't fight back except for opportunity attacks once the fight started. It just takes awhile, and she still asks you to spare her.
The advantage doing it this way is, it's a much easier fight. The disadvantage is that you loose out on the permanant +1 buff she offers you" What part of that is even close to being worth it? This is a permanant +1 buff on an ability that we are talking about here. That is huge.
I found this out by mistake in my first playthrough. Stumbled upon the secret passage and free cast silance to get through and avoided all the traps and made my way yo the bottom. Srt up an elaborate trap for her and then sent Astatian to start the fight and de polymorph. Little did i know i left non lethal on and after a quick pickpocket i back stabed her and she never go back up. Over an hour orlf planning and set up and thos did her in. 10/10 would do again
With magic missiles it's very easy to kill her even on Honor mode. Just cast spell first so she spend her legendary acting, then destroy her copies with magic missiles. Then paladin of vengeance or barbarian will take care of her easily.
i'm currently at my very first playthrough of bg3 and today i found her house. and like a good gamer that i am i tried to go the way that the game wants us players to and got to her dungeon, where i spent about 4 hours attempting to take her down before i said fuck it and left through her portal, frustrated. i guess my level 4 party is not enough yet ;-;
so when i fought her i had the spear you can make from the owl bear eye that applies blindness on a target. and behind her house there is an area with a ladder. she can jump down she cannot get up it however. so i would poke her with the spear and run back up the ladder so she was basically nothing but a dmg sponge.
I made it all the way to her basement and fought her and her illusions and I was like what if I used an explosive arrow and threw her into the hole… I diddnt expect it to actually work lol that was a quick fight
I used the magic silencing sword on her turn one. Just surrounded her and smacked her to pieces after that. She didn’t even offer me anything at low health
I used Karlach and threw something at Ethel every turn. I streamed it on Discord for my friends to see, and they feared me because I purposely drew out the fight to half an hour because I was having too much fun throwing stuff at her.
My buddies and I are all playing little psycho dwarves. We managed to get around her, used enlarge just before going in with invis. Once we were all in place, we launched our attack killing her before she could even reach her fireplace! Despite our win, we ended up trying a couple times to get her just under 10 hp without killing. Wanted to see if we could get the +1 without doing her full dungeon. Alas you can not!
So when I played earlier days of mac book, i defeated her at level 3 because before she could get to the stairs i killed her, a mix of fire bomb, crits and the power hammer you get from the From killing the hob goblin in goblin camp. When i played the resl version/full release I struggled to beat her with every character at level five and even though i had non lethal attack on all the masked people died after I defeated auntie ethal. The difficulty and overall just feeling of losing because i was playing to save everyone sucked.
You can get her hair and kill her if you leave Astarion outside the mushroom portal for the fight. Take the deal but don't finish the dialogue and have Astarion finish her. The reward popup appears when you first swap over to Astarion. Ethel's body disappears but the hair and Second Marriage are enough for me.
Or you can exploit her for her potions of hill giant strength. Every time you level up she restockes so put someone next to her and respec with withers
I didn’t know you could get the plus one buff and still kill her and save the girl! I’ll have to try it on my second play through! I just got to act 2 am very excited
I was very unfortunate and actually just straight up merced her before she got into the lair. I cornered her against a wall so I never got my bonus through that bonus xD
Oh. I just yeeted her into oblivion on accident bc Shadowheart only had a bonus action left and the only thing I could think to do was “shove.” It was over so fast I didn’t know what happened. No loot, but Myreena and her husband were… “re-united”
Bruh that fight was so damn annoying for me 😂. I didn’t even get the option when I killed her because I guess I killed her too fast when she was low on hp
i accidentally cornered her in her house and obliterated her before she got in her dungeon. she was also the last thing i did in act 1 so i was quite high level. i didn't know about her deal until my friend told me
Fun little thing i did fir this fight. I wanted to save the people with the masks on in her dungeon, so i stealthed past them and went straight to ethel. She then summoned them to the arena turn 1, so i save scummed(im not sorry), and casted silence on her. Then my 2 martials and 2 weapon fighting bard jumped her, and had someone in the back spam hideous laughter every turn so she couldnt run out of the silence
I didn't notice her HP, and I guess that she can't ask for mercy in a silence spell, so she just died. That or I crit her to death from like 30 or something. So no +1 for me, but at least everyone was freed
My husband and I 1 hit her in one of our playthroughs. By putting the whole party in sneak, and then using jump to get around the map, you can get the girl, revealing Ethel in hag form but not activating combat, and you can thunderwave her into the pit. Again, you miss the bonus, but it is so satisfying.
I just drank a strength potion and an accuracy potion and knocked her out with a mace cause I felt like it’s weird why she lives in a swamp. Then she turned into a green witch thing called. A hag. I was so happy I listened to my gut
Also, before dealing with Ethel, make sure you grab the Speak with Dead amulet in Act 1 dungeon (crypt where you meet Withers) or you have someone in the party who can cast Speak with Dead. Cus Ethel will have some information that opens up extra dialogue options with Mayrina, so she's not mad at you for killing Ethel.
Seriously, Larian thinks of so much for their games
Damn didn't even try everyone else you kill refuses
@goreobsessed2308 that's because the caveat to Speak with Dead is corpses won't talk to their killer. The easy way around this is to cast disguise self first, then use Speak with Dead.
@@goreobsessed2308use disguise self then try speak with dead
@@goreobsessed2308most all of the corpses in the game (excluding decapitated ones) do have dialogue post mortem, but they refuse to speak to who killed them (i.e, usually you and your party). You have to get around this by casting disguise self before you can chat with them.
I learned about barrelmancy, she was the one i tested it on
Barrelmancy is my favorite school of magic
I still haven't used barrelmancy but I'm collecting super random barrels that just so explode so maybe one day
@@wonderfrog25Act 3 Wyrm Rock prison is a wonderful place to stack some barrels
Ah yes, barrelmancy, a most forbidden School of magic, banned for being too powerful.
Gonna be patched for sure
Auntie Ethel when I am carrying almost 20 barrels of explosives "Oh petal, I really don't need so much fire wine"
Yo that was me too
"no, but I do"
Lool imagine using fire wine instead of smokepowder
@@RoastTurtle2 Imagine using a dumb powder when you can burn alcohol.
Imagine not collecting every single explosive barrel there is in the game
If you use arcane lock on the stairs to the basement area, her ai breaks and it makes the fight easy, she may claw you if you get too close but she keeps trying to go down the locked stairs. My friend has dubbed the strat giving auntie dementia and hiding the keys.
That is the best strategy name ever.
i believe this has been patched. it does not allow you to use lock on the fireplace as it says it’s not a valid target. and the only way to access the stairs is after she goes through the fireplace barrier and at that point it’s already too late to lock the stairs because she just teleports straight to the final fight area.
with that being said it is fairly easy to defeat her in one round (at least on balanced mode) before she teleports if you’re able to knock her prone with your first characters turn (kinda like in the video)
@@benjicanter9106 she actually takes one turn to teleport, then another to leave. So if you're able to get to the staircase and lock it in that window it still works.
Actually if you have someone sneaking past her while she's in conversation, they can check the fireplace, go through and arcane lock the stairs without triggering anything.
@@rexex345Even if you do it before combat, she will literally teleport through the stairs into her basement by her 3rd turn no matter what happens
fun fact, a similar effect works if you kill a polymorphed enemy with the illithid power "cull the weak". it made the viconia fight 20x easier
So you can kill Gortash with polymorph?
@@calcium_skeleton Why would you?
It`s like the easiest boss fight in the game.
@@Arrynek01 What, no.
@@Arrynek01 The easiest boss is Ketheric
@@calcium_skeleton Katheric took me three tries on the tower and one go in the hive.
Gortash lasted two rounds.
But I guess that depends on the party and dice luck.
Oath of Ancients love this one simple trick to murk hags.
When I defeated Aunt Ethel she was on >5 hp in a burning oil AEO, so after I “spared” her and got the buff she still died, best of both worlds
She was on more than 5 hp? That can literally mean anything between 6 and max
Did you get the quest in act 3 tho?
I got her to beg me for her life and I had Astarion cheeky stealthy out of combat behind her, he stabby stabby her to death after giving me the buffs
@@EVeljko Yes, you can't really kill her without taking out her revive spores
@@vond5829 i meant if you spare her then manage to kill her in act one, does the game glitch out and still give you the quest in act 3. There are now revive flowers in the act 1 fight, far as i know
Not sure what has happened, but I've beaten Aunt Ethel 3 times in her dungeon, and I'm only finding out about this +1 buff now.
Yeah same, that's why the Community is so important.
The first two times I beat her, she didn't make the offer. I found out about it and tried to trigger it the next time I faced her. Had to reload to get the dialogue to trigger, then reload again when the buff didn't work.
Basically, once her health is low enough, she will offer you a deal on her next turn. But people like us probably killed her before her next turn came and thus never got the offer
You have to bring her to low health but don’t kill her. Eventually she’ll surrender and after a few ability checks, she offer up a peice of her hair for a +1 stat increase.
Ye it’s overpowered. Drop her to like 5 or less health without killing by or knocking her out
First time I tried doing it I had some concentration spell on and it wouldn’t work, I had the break my own spell first. Think silence
I ACCEDENTALLY DID THIS AND IT WAS GREAT
I didn’t realize she gives you something i knocked her into the giant hole in the fight
I one-turned her in my first playthrough. When she turned invisible I used a scroll to cast shatter in her general direction, she became visible and karlach, Lazel and Shadowheart just pummeled her.
Thankfully, I still searched her cellar cause lootgoblin.
I did something similar with my monk: knocked her down and stunned her, she had no chance, but I left her at about 10hp hoping to get the hair, and instead she teleported away and fully healed =(
lootgoblins unite
I had none of the cool spells when I found her because I did it very early and it took a while but I don’t regret it much because I got her hair.
"Come outside, we not gon' jump you!"
A well placed fire arrow is also a good way of flushing out an invisible target.
Unfortunately, it was a requirement of my paladin's oath to finish her off so he didn't get that extra point of charisma he really wanted.
Alternative title : how to easily beat an old woman by tricking her
I like to not have the +1 buff when it means that all her victims are freed, including the dwarf that she cursed and all the souls she captured and enslaved.
Make sure Mayrina gets teleported away before you do this or the quest is not completable
How do you kill her before that? It’s a cutscene.
Probably use one or your companions to start the cutscene and talk until she sends mayrina away, then either attack, or just end the dialogue before she transforms. Then attack.
Few friends and I were all a party of duergar so we could invisible whenever we wanted and straight up assassinated her before the cutscene. You do get locked out. Not sure now though with the new patch
Tell that to the spectator I released in the room.
Damn, I just blew her the fuck up in my Rogue run. This would’ve saved me some barrels 😅
Definitely is a bug, canonically i feel like its more of an illusion based on how she interacts with the players
nope... the illusions only pop up in the dungeon. first when you go in it's an illusion then when you're fighting her in the end she casts illusions. in the house, its her
On my recent playthrough I jumped her in the house and because my monk and gales magic missle did so much damage she didn’t even have time to go back into her house and she died.
Now that this has been patched, note that you can also cheese here at a slightly higher level by casting arcane lock on her stairs. She spends all her turn trying in vain to unlock the stairs even though she can't and you judt get 10 turns to wail on her. Make sure you get rid if the redcaps though
My friends and I (3 total players) were all playing druids and took Gale with us for some assistance. When we encountered Ethel, we managed to get an initiative set up that had all of us act before her, allowing us to attack and Gale to incapacitate her with hideous laughter
My barbarian, Karlach and Lae'zel surrounded her, she could not move at all.
Guess how did it go...
since u r a female player i suppose you died and got pushed of the cliff so you had to reload and come herr and write this comment
You can also just use 6-8 Explosive barrels to insta kill her in the tea house. You still lose out on the bonus ASI but if youre too afraid of fighting her and losing an honor run, its an easy solution.
this is really nice, I still prefer the explosive method it ads more fun placing those barrels while ethel just stands there minding her business
I basically did the same thing on my first run and wasn’t until my second that I realized there was supposed to be a while other fight accompanying it haha
Diabolical 😈
You also miss out on the Angelic Slumber Potions you can farm from her in the final act.
The Susar Bark weapons are also a great tool to use against Ethal if you are looking to get the hags hair.
I just had Gale go invis while my characted was in convo with her in her hut, go go her escape hatch and cast Arcane Lock on it. It makes her brain short circuit when she tries to run away because she keeps trying to open it and leave... Bht can't. And her attemlts will mske her move, which can trigger opportunity attacks from melee characters too. My barbarian had a blast. 😂
They patched this out
I did a cool in my fight with her. When she tried to use Mayrina as a body double I turned Mayrina invisible then summoned the ogers to fight for me it kinda worked out.
Bruh I just opened CZcams, it was on shorts, and I got spoiled instantly, but after hearing what that tiefling says about her potion and the unfortunate side effects, this twist makes sense
Also, if you don't want Ethel to be mad at you when you kill Auntie, tell her about Auntie killing her brothers when you first meet her
Nice didn’t know you could knock her out this way. Spent a lot of time savescumming to test if you could take her out in one turn before she TPs.
Subsequent runs I let her leave though and do the encounter for the +1 ability increase
+1 to all abilities or to a specific one?
@@kasane1337 if you get her below a certain health threshold while she’s in her lair she’ll stop the fight and offer you a consumable item that’s +1 to any stat for the character that uses it if you let her go. You have to decide the stat when you get it though, not when you use it so you can’t like hold on to it and decide what to do with it later
@@mamboonthetube7652HIGHLY recommend saving mid-fight, though, just in case. First 2 times I fought her, she never made the offer before she died (I think she only makes the offer once it's her turn in combat, so if she reaches the threshold AND reaches 0 hp before her next turn, she can't make the offer). I didn't know about her offer until I found out online, so the third time I fought her, I tried to make it happen. I accidentally killed her 3 times before she made her offer (and it glitched out and didn't give me the item that grants the boost, so I had to reload again)
It's incredibly broken/confusing so save if you want to take her deal 😂
Yeah I had no clue I just annihilated her with Eldritch blast 💀😭
Nah you should get her hair as item as the character who does this. So you can use it whenever and give to other party members. It does have to be the stat you select@@mamboonthetube7652
I wish we cud do this in the druid's grove when we first meet her
You can. But you'll have the entire camp turn hostile. lol
@@keldor8302 we cant tho, she magically runs away and disappears unless it has been made possible
@@viy4581 she can't run if unconscious. Unless they made her immune when in the grove? I'm starting a new playthrough. I'll test it out.
You can meet her in the druid's grove?!
@@_rosmarino yes, she is there by the cooking pot where Rolan and his family stands if u convince them to stay.
Iirc she asks u to eat some good to regain your strength and spoiler
The injured Tiefling inside that locked house(near the cell where the goblin is locked up) will tell u that the old woman gave her a potion that made her courageous as she wanted but also came with a side effect that paralysed her
I just placed smoke barrels
Or or dare I say surrounding her with barrels and barrels that explode works wonders
Taking the +1 year intimidation buff that gives you disadvantage on perception checks over the see invisible enemies buff was my biggest regret so far in my first play through
Can also Use the ogre horn that u can aquire from the blighted village
Just set 4 exploding barrels around her, 5 for good measure and use a fire arrow to light them up, easiest method, always collect boxes and explosive barrrels and send them to camp, really useful for cheesing fights
I do this but trade first if you buy her entire stock and then sell every longsword goblin simitar and dagger she will have them in her inventory for you to take them and sell again
Hmm..now I'm wondering if we can do this with the not so obvious non-ox at the Druids Grove.
and here I was placing a bunch of explosive barrels to blow her up before she gets into the basement
If you block the fireplace entrance you can force her to stay in the house and easily kill her then proceed into her dungeon where everyone is free of her curses and all traps are disabled
You can also just Arcane Lock the stairs.
Yes indeed, you might even find a certain someone did a short about that as well some time ago 😉
@@GMWorkshop Wait was that you? I'm sorry 😂
here's how i did it post patch.
use minor illusion on the goat shaped redcaps so you can lure them away for a swift ass beating.
when you go into her tree house when you're fighting the masks. get them together with minor illusion before combat and use an aoe spell or something to that effect.
get an ice arrow or bottle of water from anywhere
when ethel throws fire on the girls cage put the fire out immediately
I took the hag eye, then burst her down before she could teleport away. I had to reload quite a few times to accomplish it.
I did it in one save, I can’t say the same about Grym though.
In Divinity 2 and evil king turned a shit ton of people into animals and you encounter them super often and throughout the game
Did anyone else not know about her being in the Druid camp at the beginning lol
Literally just found this out yesterday
Best way to defeat elthal.
Get a wizard or sorc lvl 4. Bring 1-2 lvl 2 arcane cultivations. When she summons clones. Use magic missle upcasted. To target every single copy.
It's guaranteed hit, and will disple all of them except the real one.
Have a strength character and use a potion of vaulting, and longstrider. So not only can ur str character get right on top her, any spell she attempts to cast will have Disadvantage if not the str character. (Which you can pot Heroism elixar on for extra health or hill giant that you should have farmed early game).
A few way to deal extra damage is hold person for Melee crits, halt to skip turn, speed potion to attempt either 2 times per turn.
There's no better combo to defeat her easily. And if on tactician, fly potion is stronger, bloodlust on rouge (dual xbow) can shoot one clone and gain action back. (3 actions to shot mutiple special arrows).
I remember during the fight I pushed her into the void and when she came back in act 3 I was like "this some comic book shit i suppose I did never actually see her die"
If use the resurrection wand on mayrinas husband you can keep it and get a free zombie that you can summon infinitely
Smaller trick to help with her boss fight; the tadpole effect that causes a stat drain only effects the main Ethyl; any copies or decoys wont have the condition, and the real her can easily be identified ^^
I defeated her in her hag form before she could make it down to her hole and I'm honestly just as surprised as you are that I did. No tricks, no barrels, just monk, barbarian, wizard and cleric
I did that too and I was like “ * looks at my hands * am I ?… God?”
Arcane Lock + Barrels = Priceless
I used fog in between her and Mayrina then save scummed and stole all of her stuff. This made her glitch and not respond when I tried to talk to her, but you can still force the quest by going downstairs. She was still glitchy and didn't fight back except for opportunity attacks once the fight started. It just takes awhile, and she still asks you to spare her.
The advantage doing it this way is, it's a much easier fight. The disadvantage is that you loose out on the permanant +1 buff she offers you"
What part of that is even close to being worth it?
This is a permanant +1 buff on an ability that we are talking about here. That is huge.
I made a npc in my dnd game who was very similar to ethel years ago so i always have a soft spot for her
Suprisingly i did this on my own due to curiosity and didnt expect it to work
I found this out by mistake in my first playthrough. Stumbled upon the secret passage and free cast silance to get through and avoided all the traps and made my way yo the bottom. Srt up an elaborate trap for her and then sent Astatian to start the fight and de polymorph. Little did i know i left non lethal on and after a quick pickpocket i back stabed her and she never go back up. Over an hour orlf planning and set up and thos did her in. 10/10 would do again
With magic missiles it's very easy to kill her even on Honor mode. Just cast spell first so she spend her legendary acting, then destroy her copies with magic missiles. Then paladin of vengeance or barbarian will take care of her easily.
I threw a void bulb without knowing how strong it was and she went straight to hole where the cage drops
I had no idea I could get a +1 buff from sparing her. Whoops!
I ended up stun locking her with the monk stun punch stuff and killed her right there.
What happens if you knock her out and then just leave
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i'm currently at my very first playthrough of bg3 and today i found her house. and like a good gamer that i am i tried to go the way that the game wants us players to and got to her dungeon, where i spent about 4 hours attempting to take her down before i said fuck it and left through her portal, frustrated. i guess my level 4 party is not enough yet ;-;
Me when i found out about barrelmancy: I AM NOT A PETAL DAMNIT!
"tactition is too easy" players in action for every boss fight
I accidentally killed her in her hut just before she ran to her basement by using tadpole powers while she was standing in druid thorns.
so when i fought her i had the spear you can make from the owl bear eye that applies blindness on a target. and behind her house there is an area with a ladder. she can jump down she cannot get up it however. so i would poke her with the spear and run back up the ladder so she was basically nothing but a dmg sponge.
I made it all the way to her basement and fought her and her illusions and I was like what if I used an explosive arrow and threw her into the hole… I diddnt expect it to actually work lol that was a quick fight
She never offered me that buff but I also was taking massive chunks of health with my divine smite
I used the magic silencing sword on her turn one. Just surrounded her and smacked her to pieces after that. She didn’t even offer me anything at low health
I used Karlach and threw something at Ethel every turn. I streamed it on Discord for my friends to see, and they feared me because I purposely drew out the fight to half an hour because I was having too much fun throwing stuff at her.
My buddies and I are all playing little psycho dwarves. We managed to get around her, used enlarge just before going in with invis. Once we were all in place, we launched our attack killing her before she could even reach her fireplace!
Despite our win, we ended up trying a couple times to get her just under 10 hp without killing. Wanted to see if we could get the +1 without doing her full dungeon. Alas you can not!
Oooo, wonder if this’ll work at the mermaid
1M views @gmworkshop congrats, this is amazing!!!
So when I played earlier days of mac book, i defeated her at level 3 because before she could get to the stairs i killed her, a mix of fire bomb, crits and the power hammer you get from the From killing the hob goblin in goblin camp. When i played the resl version/full release I struggled to beat her with every character at level five and even though i had non lethal attack on all the masked people died after I defeated auntie ethal. The difficulty and overall just feeling of losing because i was playing to save everyone sucked.
Man I had to fight her a few times! This is smart lol
You can get her hair and kill her if you leave Astarion outside the mushroom portal for the fight. Take the deal but don't finish the dialogue and have Astarion finish her. The reward popup appears when you first swap over to Astarion. Ethel's body disappears but the hair and Second Marriage are enough for me.
Or you can exploit her for her potions of hill giant strength. Every time you level up she restockes so put someone next to her and respec with withers
What you can do in this game keeps surprising me 🤯🤯🤯
I have too high perception, so I keep seeing her 😢
Throw silence so she cant call her slave see invi stun cc trip easy fight plus you can cancel silence on low heath to start a conversation.
When I went through there I did a investigation check and got it and saw them but they didn't know I saw them
I didn’t know you could get the plus one buff and still kill her and save the girl! I’ll have to try it on my second play through! I just got to act 2 am very excited
I was very unfortunate and actually just straight up merced her before she got into the lair. I cornered her against a wall so I never got my bonus through that bonus xD
Oh. I just yeeted her into oblivion on accident bc Shadowheart only had a bonus action left and the only thing I could think to do was “shove.”
It was over so fast I didn’t know what happened. No loot, but Myreena and her husband were… “re-united”
I killed her so fast in the dungeon I didn't even know I could get a buff
pft , missing out on giant strength potions... I keep her alive until moonrise tower.
I never got the chance to make a deal with her because Karlach one shotted her with a critical hit.
If you spare Ethel, you can find her again in act III causing more trouble. But convince her to side with you for your big fight.
If u deal enough damage in two rounds u can get her before she teleports doenstairs
That buff is handy though
Bruh that fight was so damn annoying for me 😂. I didn’t even get the option when I killed her because I guess I killed her too fast when she was low on hp
i accidentally cornered her in her house and obliterated her before she got in her dungeon. she was also the last thing i did in act 1 so i was quite high level. i didn't know about her deal until my friend told me
Oh man i wish I'd known that...i had to geek her with my pc, Astarion and Karlach while having shadowheart use command to make her grovel.
Fun little thing i did fir this fight. I wanted to save the people with the masks on in her dungeon, so i stealthed past them and went straight to ethel. She then summoned them to the arena turn 1, so i save scummed(im not sorry), and casted silence on her. Then my 2 martials and 2 weapon fighting bard jumped her, and had someone in the back spam hideous laughter every turn so she couldnt run out of the silence
I didn't notice her HP, and I guess that she can't ask for mercy in a silence spell, so she just died. That or I crit her to death from like 30 or something. So no +1 for me, but at least everyone was freed
This works when she's polymorphed as Marina also, so be careful
This didnt happen for me but during the fight to save the girl i used a void bomb to pull her down the hole in the ground she spawns by
My husband and I 1 hit her in one of our playthroughs.
By putting the whole party in sneak, and then using jump to get around the map, you can get the girl, revealing Ethel in hag form but not activating combat, and you can thunderwave her into the pit.
Again, you miss the bonus, but it is so satisfying.
I just drank a strength potion and an accuracy potion and knocked her out with a mace cause I felt like it’s weird why she lives in a swamp. Then she turned into a green witch thing called. A hag. I was so happy I listened to my gut
Just because you're Int 1, doesn't mean that you can't be Lawful Good.