I Just Bought A Miniature Railroad: Moving Equipment
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- čas přidán 28. 07. 2023
- In this episode of saving the Ossipee Central, we move some cars to temporary storage on the Shady Pines Railroad. This is only temporary until we build new storage space on the MLBK.
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Those lifting turntables are a rare breed these days, Service Stations haven't used them for decades.
I remember Pioneer Valley had 2 of them at their track in the 1970's when I was a member.
It would be a real coup if you could move this one to your home track!
That's the idea!
@@MillBrookRailroad Do it
It's going to be interesting watching you dig 9 feet down all around that shaft!
Yes, I have one in our old shop in MS. Been thinking about digging it up and selling it.
@jimbruneau6769 You're right about that! I already have had someone with a backhoe volunteer to help. It's also going to take a fair amount of shoveling.
You could use a gaggle of volunteers with all of the railroad projects you have going but it will be nice to see how the new buildings and equipment will add to the Mill Brook. I wish I lived nearby and that my Dad were still around. He would have loved that.
Here's an update on the status of that. czcams.com/video/8fyYhmlrh5E/video.html
So exciting, I am so happy you were able to get and preserve this railroad of the past. Looking forward to following your progress. Wayne
Thanks!
Would be great to see those cars cleaned up a little while still keeping the OCR lettering.
Indeed, it would be wonderful to have the OCR rolling stock still in OCR lettering on the MLBK. And that one Reading gondola.
I have no plans to change it at the moment.
This Is really cool someone is saving this railroad. Good job on all of this!
Thanks!
what great asset for the Millbrook railroad ! such nice cars! it is so nice to save someone’s
work that they did over the years. that steam engine will be great for the Mill Brook RR
ones it is repaired and rebuilt! good luck transporting the Osprey RR!
It is going to be an adventure, for sure!
This was such a cool little rail rd. I use to drive by it all the time. Glad to see it going to a great home.
❤this is exciting stuff,good to see millbrook is expanding, I hope nothing is wasted at the old railway line that u have brought, if you can,get a large trailer from somewhere and cut the track into long places and put on the trailer in big lengths to save time,you got the room at millbrook to store it😊
Nothing will be wasted. Anything that can be used will be used on the MLBK. The longest steaming bay is too large for the space at the Mill Brook, so it might become a deck bridge across our swamp.
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Thanks for watching!
Well done all the best with all the trains and locos cheers from blenheim south island new Zealand
Great job fun to watch good luck.
Glad you enjoyed it
Great to watch your progress. Nice that Shady Pines was allowed you access to their barn / workshop area. I appreciate learning something from this video. I may contribute some more $$ your gofundme as am getting a education from your videos . Thank you.
While am 74 yrs old and retired USAF, Last year I had 2 Strokes and have limited use of my left arm & hand therefore somewhat disabled. Luckily my mind is still functioning.
Thanks!
should build a train car with a mounted leaf blower with a wide end to blow debris off the track while using the loco
The lift is awesome well lift/turntable
Definitely!
Sad to say, but what a good timing. You planned extension and a lot of trackage is avaable with good rolling stock. A second turntable. That add on with the lift is the no more fall in the abyss like the 70 did . The enginehouse if it can be dismantled in large section is a great bonus.
A lot of work but result will be awesome.
It was good timing.
...but the 70 falling out of the Jeep had nothing to do with the lift. It had everything to do with someone not following instructions.
The engine house will be dismantled and moved, just like the train shed from Richmond Mountain Railroad.
Once your planned extension is complete with all of this additional rolling stock you might need some bigger, heavier motive power to move the freight on the Mill Brook in the future.
I might need a bigger locomotive or maybe more little end cab switchers. I'll cross that bridge when I get there.
Well were I a bit closer I'd donate my time. I think it would be an excellent way to fill in my retirement hours.
Good luck fellas.....
Thanks! There are many small railway museums and clubs across the country that could use your help.
Great video😄😍🤩.
Thank you 🤗
That's a lot to just pick up , let alone load and then put back into use at another location. Mad Respect for you moving and saving that Fallen Flag, and giving it a new life. Still sadden that the person's family didn't want to preserve and keep it in the family. Some future generation will look at them as idiots for selling it, instead of keeping it in the family as their heirloom it was meant to be. At least you will keep it alive and from the scrap metal yard....
The previous owners family really couldn't keep it. They live in Alaska. The railroad would have fallen into further disrepair and might have eventually been lost to vandals.
A friend of his from Danvers, MA thanked me for saving it and keeping it in New England.
@@MillBrookRailroad From Alaska to New England is quiet the haul, Hope your Tetris packing skills are up to making that fit a few more pieces per load, to save on the number of trips. That turntable and its shaft will be a job in itself to get out of the ground.
Sad to think the original owner didn't have grand kids,great grand kids , local neighbors and/or their kids around that would work on it just to keep it there in their community. It must have cost a lot to kept all that up into Alaska, when it was new. Hopefully you get too many hassles getting through Canada.
Boys and their toys! I’m one of those lord I love trains.
Hope all this survives and lives at Millbrook Railroad
That is the plan. That's why I'm fundraising. Moving it all is going to be expensive.
That pile of sleepers/ties in the Roundhouse would be useful id imagine.
Very useful, indeed.
Now you have a tanker for water and another for weed control.
I need to build some for maple sap. Those need to be food grade.
Nice!
Looks like you are going to need a bigger yard or a bigger shed to keep the additional rolling stock stored.
Go big or go home, Oh wait... he is at home.
You know those "pop-up" car ports? One of those but smaller with doors on each side. Can be put up in winter and taken down in summer.
The railway comes with a storage building.
Yep! That concrete rock would probably derail a full size train too!
You're probably right.
@@MillBrookRailroad and speaking of derailments.........a few years ago, i was a crew driver for a major class 1 railroad. While this didnt happen on my shift, a fairly new crew was going along, and failed to set a derail so they could cross another roads main in a major city. Needless to say, they put 3 locomotives and about a half dozen loaded coal hoppers on the ground, and fortunately they all remained upright............so your derailments are very minor, compared to that mess!
We can picture those longer Unit Trains on The expanded Millbrook central & VERMONT Great merger...Be exciting to just Combine The. Two Railways.
That little tank car is actually really cool. Looks like it was remade from a water heater tank.
That's possible. The previous owner used to work for a company that made water tank heating elements.
@@MillBrookRailroad That’s pretty apropos. (And those old tanks have so many uses later in life.)
John may have given you a push up the hill, but I gave you the the push too... 😉👍 1K of likes so far... Cool railroad love to check it out, but I'm all the way in Illinois.
There are small gauge railroads like this in Illinois. I built a locomotive for one of them.
@MillBrookRailroad I've seen some here and there a few times now... I was in to model railroad myself a short few years ago, but a bit smaller lol " HO ". Went for a ride on one about your size a few years back, Little Toots Railway, Charlie Brown Park in Flora, Illinois. I'm more in the Quad City Area, though Aledo, Illinois
love the lifting turntable! is that just held up by air pressure? amazing that it can rotate without leakage or raise/lower without jamming due to the large width of the distribution of weight on the top if not perfectly centred...?
and also really loved seeing the engine without the hood, I now have a much better appreciation for what you've built there.
finally, really like the low camera angle of the rolling stock arriving into the workshop at 20:30, especially with the extremely quiet engine could really hear all of the character of the wheels and rails, thanks!
The turntable lift is an old single cylinder air hydraulic garage lift. I think those lifts were outlawed for repair garages in the 1970's or early 1980's, due to no safety mechanism to keep mechanics from getting crushed should a hydraulic or air line fail. These trains are far below their limit, and nobody is expected to be under a turntable. Even if they were, though, it doesn't go all the way to the ground.
Glad you liked the camera angles! Thanks for watching.
next time bring a trailer, pickup or a U-Haul
I know right where that was and drove by it frequently
A pickup and a trailer would come in handy here....
Indeed, they would. I'm going to try to get a trailer hitch on my Jeep this week to tow my small trailer. That's at least a step in the right direction.
Personally, I'd look into getting a single-axle box trailer.
Done right, the trailer can double as storage.
Will ya be brining the lift and bits that go with it bro like the train stands. The two leg switcher comes in handy for the steeper bits too I see. Safe travels. Ken
I have to move the whole railroad. That includes everything. The turntable lift included.
I would get the engine hoist too. maybe don't need it now but they're getting harder to come by.
I have to take it all. Lift included.
or convert a trailer with rails, for example 3 in width and in two layers. so you can easily transpot them.
I have a trailer with two tracks, but until this week, there was no hitch on the Jeep (my old tow vehicle died of rust four years ago). I've started selling off Mill Brook Railroad equipment to make this move happen.
Can you do an in-depth upload on the three way points in the car shed (barn)? Please.
That's a good idea! Thanks for the suggestion.
Probably a dumb idea but how well would the 3 phase motors and their drivers from those hoverboard things that seem to always be in the trash work in this application? I have at least 20 of those things not yet broke down and at least 30 already broke down for the Li-Ion 18650 cells, hardware and random LEDs but never had any plans for the motors and driver circuits other than salvaging MOSFETs to repair a SMPS or some other device.
They would probably work quite well.
I hope you get the round house and everything. Nothing like it in the country
There are other railroads like it, just not a huge amount of them. I have to take everything. The roundhouse, everything inside it, the track, the coal, the turntable and the electrical conduit going to the engine house.
I'm proud to be the 1,000th like on this video!
Thank you!
I have a question regarding your real skates. What type of yellow paint would you recommend using to paint it safety yellow?
Caterpillar Yellow and safety yellow are very close. Either one will work.
Since you need new storage space and it sounds like you're taking the roundhouse as well...do you have plans to raise the height of the roundhouse when installing at the MBRR to make it more accessible?
There's a train shed from another railroad that I have to move. I'm also moving the roundhouse to the MLBK. I'll probably put the roundhouse on a foundation with a 4 foot knee wall.
Is any of that rolling stock equipped with Miller Backyard Railroad ware, such as trucks or couplers?
Thr trucks under the Rittenburg hopper and the tank car, and the weird couplers on the locomotives are probably Miller Backyard products.
Please fire up a steamer
Only after it is safe to do so. This one has a serious boiler problem. It can be fixed, but it won't be easy.
Ive watched another of your videos. And I'm puzzled why u don't dig the track at shady pines railroad lower from the top of the hill at the rail Junction to the bridge.😢it looks like it could be done.make it one grade😂
As far as the Shady Pines goes, that's all Tony's project. He's the owner and he built it.
What is the motor controller that you use?. And how do you hook it up to everything?. I am planning to build a loco just like that that's why I was wondering.
I use a Dimension Engineering SyRen 50 motor controller. I have some videos on my channel about wiring these locomotives. Here are two of them:
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@@MillBrookRailroad okay thanks.
Check out the Kustom specker cabinet.
That is an old school cabinet, for sure.
Are you taking the turntable and engine shed as well?
Yes. They're part of the railroad.
Is that turntable built from half of a car lift?
It is built from a whole car lift. They used to have only one piston.
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Thanks for watching!
You need a bigger shop. I let my friend stay in the basement instead taking my shop. Have a great day be safe
My basement is my shop. It was only a temporary arrangement, though. I have my shop back now.
Just curious - How many miles of track did you acquire? Thank You.
About 1200 feet of track. There are very few railroads of this size that are measured in miles.
@@MillBrookRailroad Thank You!! All the best.
Also I have a question, will any of this equipment be repainted and if so which?
There are no plans to repaint anything at the moment. Right now, I'm focused on moving everything. That's not just rolling stock. It's the entire railroad that I have to move.
@@MillBrookRailroad okay thanks
Pneumatic or hydraulic?
how about making two plates with rails that fit in the car, and a rail bridge so you can drive wagons/locomotives directly into the wagon instead of having to lift them in
I have a board with rails on it in the Jeep, made specifically for hauling trains. The loading plate is lacking, but these have been lighter cars instead of heavy locomotives.
Hi Guys from the Orchid Line miniature railway on the Isle of Man. I only just came across your site, please excuse my lack of knowledge but could you tell me your track gauge.
We operate 7 1/4” gargle in the Uk but I am aware that the majority of track in the US is 7 1/2” gauge, which is yours ?
A full 10% of North America is 7-1/4" gauge. It's an area that includes eastern Pennsylvania, all of New York, New Jersey, Vermont, New Hampshire, Connecticut, Rhode Island, Massachusetts, Maine, Eastern Ontario, all of Quebec, Newfoundland and Labrador and the Canadian maritimes. The rest of the US and Canada are 7-1/2" gauge. Except for one railroad in Michigan that predates the gauge split in the 1950's.
It makes for a lot of confusion.
Is/are the rolling stock interchangeable???
How long is your railroad?
Nice video
As I type this, the Mill Brook Railroad has 970 feet of mainline. The prepared roadbed is 1000 feet.
Kinda need something in the front of the train to sweep the rails of sticks, kinda like a cow catcher I guess (not a railroad historian).
Usually, that's done ahead of time, by hand. Even on the big railroads. Anything big enough to derail a train gets cut out of the way by the track maintainer.
My thoughts tend towards a dedicated leaf blower wagon.
The modern equivalent of a snow plow.
With a bit of artistic license, it could be made to look prototypical(ish). As the lead wagon and the blast directed forward, down, and (controllable) left or right, it could prove useful? 🤓😳🖖
What kind of electric motor is that? AC/DC? And, the motor controller? Is that pulsed DC?
It is a brushed 500W 24VDC motor. The motor controller is a Dimension Engineering SyRen 50 PWM motor controller.
@@MillBrookRailroad Thanks, that is very neat. I'm surprised at the power you get out of it for the size and batteries.
a lot of stuff at that railway that can be reused ,,its just having the time to move it
You're right. Basically, all of it can and will be reused.
I assume you are ripping up the track too. With all that rolling stock, that track will be a nice addition.
It'll more than double the size of my home railway, which is open to the public.
@@MillBrookRailroad Hey Aaron, really enjoy your videos, I mostly am active in HO scale trains, but find railroads such as your's facinating! Many years ago, in my home town, we had a 12" guage train in a park, operated by the Kiwanis Club, the train was an EMD F unit with about 4 or 5 coaches. I loved that railroad, rode it countless times! Best of luck in your aquisition of the O.C.R. equipment, it all appears to be quite nice & certainly will make your Mill Brook Railroad even better, while preserving the O.C.R.! Have you considered doing a fund raiser at the current location of the O.C.R. , giving enthuisists a last chance to ride or run the line with their equipment? If that could be arranged with the property owner, I think it would help you raise your funding. Wish I lived close by, quite a trek to VT. from N.C.
@richardperry5743 The property owners are not allowing any public meets or any fundraising on the property due to insurance liability. I may be able to do a private meet, though.
@@MillBrookRailroad Thank you for your reply Aaron! A private function might be something that would be fun & a way to raise some funds for the equipment ect. Good idea, a great way for those who truly care, to enjoy the O.C.R. one last time at the original location. I sincerely hope you can make that happen! I wish you the very best of luck!
It looks like the tracks need to be elevated some more off the ground.
They'll be lifted off the ground and onto a trailer soon.
How many man hours is it going to take for you to remove all the stuff you bought and re install it
I haven't had time to figure that out yet. I expect it'll be in the hundreds of man hours.
Whats the story behind the osprey line ?
I'll be doing a video about it soon, but here's the TLDR: The Ossipee Central Railway was built in 1970 by Dwight Winkley, who had been very active in railway preservation in New England. The OCR had one or two meets per year and Dwight would run a train for anyone who knocked on his door and asked for a ride. He got sick with cancer a few years ago and died from it in March of 2023. His family all live in Alaska and can't care for the railroad, so they offered it to anyone in the club that he belonged to. A few stepped up, but only one met the amount the family was looking for. He only wanted a couple pieces of equipment and challenged me to raise enough money online to pay him back for the rest of it.
If it weren't for that challenge, this whole thing would have never happened.
Honestly anything to do with New York I would ignore.
And as always derailment concludes the video 😊
They're complimentary. Like a continental breakfast.
If anyone likes 12" gauge, ive got a locomotive, and two cars that need love, and a new home!
Hmmm that turntable needs a brake on it to keep it stationary!
Something I'll sort out when I get it installed at home.
I'm gonna convert an old ATV to a 8" loco
Having worked on a conversion or two, I think you might find that starting from scratch is easier.
What's the point of a mini railroad? Genuinely curious.
You can ride on it. You can also move heavy loads with it. I haul chicken manure, feed, wood pellet heating fuel, firewood, brush, building materials, and anything else that will fit on or in a train car.
...but it's also fun just to ride around sometimes like a go-kart.
Doing the cool things you swore you were going to as kid. Plus getting to enjoy that fun. Then you have many practical usages.
:)
How come there isn’t as many railroad ties
There aren't as many ties because the guy who built it didn't put as many ties in. The rail is also much heavier than what I have on the MLBK.
What's wrong with the black gondola also caboom goes the tank car
The sides on the black gondola are separating from the rest of the car.
@@MillBrookRailroad ah I see so when will the rest be leaving
You guys need a pick up. //ji
I need to get my old pickup running again.
@@MillBrookRailroad Yeah, I have seen everyone here in Molalla (SHADY DELL) off load their engines from pu beds. Seems to me it is better for all of us old people.
//ji Oregon
No trailer?
I have a small one. I'm waiting for a hitch to be installed on my Jeep.
Homeaux vieillissement.
Si vrai
Nice, but that’s not a cheap project…
Not cheap, but worthwhile.
Bright people amaze me just haul it in a Jeep or SUV not a pickup truck or a box truck 😂😂😂😂😂😂
I don't have a pickup truck or a box truck available. It's either the Jeep or nothing.
watching these two loading up the car was painful
I thought it went well.
@@MillBrookRailroad its almost as slow as watching a union crew do it. well at least no one lost a fingy
You should have brang a smaller transport truck. 😂😂😂😂
I could have, but I didn't want to pedal 165 miles.
"air hydraulics"? Thats pneumatics dummy
How does it feel to always be right and never misstate things?
your chain is slipping, not the wheels I think