This Rule Change Could Ruin NFL Defenses (Grossi Perna Show)
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- čas přidán 21. 03. 2024
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Brandon Perna & Tom Grossi discuss NFL news, NFL players, and football.
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If owners really cared about player health and safety they wouldn’t play on turf fields, but that costs too much money. So a rule change like this “shows” that they care and it doesn’t cost a dime.
Bingo🎯
Simple as this
It is interesting that SoFi (allegedly) cost $5 billion, yet they couldn't spend 5 bucks to give them a field that wasn't an ACL trap.
You've nailed it right on the money.
Modern turf does not cause injuries. This is played out by multiple studies, across multiple sports, all over the world, that show no statistical difference in the number of injuries on turf vs grass.
This myth needs to die, but of course it's "common sense" so it gets propagated as if it's the truth. It is not.
At this point its literally a penalty to tackle the fucking quarterback
More like LOOKING at the QB.
New way to rig Chiefs games dropped
@@justsomegirlwithoutamustachmahomes won a SB on a bad ankle due to a hip drop tackle. he didn't need this rule
Love how the NFL claim this will reduce injuries, but then fail to do anything about synthetic pitches........
The thing that really bothers me is that the officials feel that they can call it properly. They can’t do simple things.
I've seen the refs blow a blatant delay of game and turnover in the same drive in the NFC Championship. I don't believe the NFL on anything until they scrutinize the refs like NFL scrutinizes defenses.
What IS a catch, anyway?
I've had a playing card in my pocket for the last 23 years to use exactly now and never again to measure THIS ONE first down ruling.
Billionaires care so much about player safety they continue to extend the season.
The NFL should just change to flag football and be done with it. That's what the NFL is trying to do without saying it. The recent pro bowl was literally flag football.
Yeah ... that's what the NFL needs: More vague, subjective rules that can be interpreted to help manage outcomes through inept/corrupt officiating.
They are deadset on getting rid of defense eh?
'we gotta follow the NBA. How are they doing?'
*looks at NBA all-star game*
oh...
I love how it went from we need to try to prevent life altering brain damage to no one can get any injury whatsoever.
Refs are horrifically bad at getting calls right as it is. This will just make them worse.
2024 NFL Motto "what is a tackle"
Adding more 15 yard (or even automatic first down) penalties, while not adding more that cost the offense a down, is absolutely insane to me. And if the league has any interest in shutting up the morons who claim the league is fixed, allowing defenses to actually… you know… PLAY DEFENSE would go a long way towards doing that.
We don’t know what is a catch, we don’t know what is a clean hit on a QB, we don’t know what illegal contact is in the secondary, we don’t know what a horse collar is (is it the jersey, is it the pads, is it just pulling someone down from behind all together). And now they expect them to add another banned tackle for refs to have to analyze in seconds that could completely bail out an offense, if it is all that prevalent to begin with.
Huge swing and miss here. Figure out the rules you’ve got before you start adding more.
Maybe they can use a playing card they keep in their pocket to measure how much torque is put on a players ENTIRE LOWER BODY?
"...officials believe they can correctly call it...." so there is NO chance it will be called correctly
I swear it's getting to the point they might as well make it flag football... 🙄
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And they still get injured.
The only way of stopping a lot of the injuries is having a strict requirements for fields and maintaining those fields. Turf fields should not exist.
Might as well just play flag football. Remember when they said "We deserve the money cause we can lose our chance with one play". So why are players worth the money they get paid if you can't tackle them?
Remember when a rule change was like pulling teeth? When it took 20yrs to get anything fixed? I miss those days.
Sarcastiball is our future.
All that's needed is for Butters to sell his "creamy goo". And having Randy drinking it to find out it's something else.
Make all penalties 15 or more yards automatically reviewed. They're too impactful and too subjective to allow one ref with a lazy eye to swing things with a 15 yard penalty.
Give offense an automatic 15 yrds after every play. Who gives a damn? Numbers go brrrrrrrrrrr.
Too easy for a regular tackle to look like a hip drop tackle. Way too subjective. Listen to players association. If NFL wants to get rid of it, say, "We will fine any tackle that looks like a hip drop tackle" and hit them in their wallets. We already have too many penalties that are subjective.
It's crazy that two 6'4", 220lbs guys running full speed at 20mph or more collide and one of them falls down. That's crazy. One of them HAD to have committed a penalty.
They dont want defense played. They would rather have the scores be in the 40's for both teams. Im glad i dont watch football much anymore. You started seeing the watering down in the 90's, and its gotten to the point where they dont want defense. I hate it.
No facemask, No leading with helmet, No horse-collar, No clipping, no helmet to helmet, No hitting QB low, No hitting QB late, No defenseless hit on receiver...... so what can you do again....
Every game going to be like watching the pro bowl. Pointless
Ya gotta love that good ol',
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Sarcastaball - I've never though South Park will predict the future so accurately. Imagine Mahomes winning SB with an unexpected kiss to TJ Watt.
This is going to be worse than holding. They can call it 30 times a game, but they're only going to call it 4 or 5 times a game, randomly. The randomness and subjectivity will piss off both sides, and it will skew games, and it will open up the league to even more accusations of bias and corruption.
SEVEN, I repeat, SEVEN starting QBs suffered season ending injuries on sacks last season. This completely ruined the season for too many franchises so I've proposed to do away with sacks which often lead (21% injury rate) to an injured franchise quarterback. Hopefully in 2024 we won't have to see another dangerous sack and it will be permanently removed from the game.
So basically you wanna remove tackling, got it.
@@spilledmilk1262 holy hell, that was the most obvious of sarcasm and you took it seriously. Room temp IQ detected.
@@DerrickRG I was drunk asf last night chill
How about running the ball?
At this point with all the rules being changed, it's going to turn into 2 hand touch football
This will totally not be used to fix games
Playing football growing up, I never used the crown of my helmet, nor was I taught how to hip drop tackle!!! You can still hit the shit out of someone without those 2 things!!!
Start up Sarcastaball from South Park. If they really cared, theyd take out turf fields.
Why don't the offensive players just go down to avoid injury?
Because according to the dumbfuck commissioner it’s the defense’s job to protect offensive players. I’m not fucking joking or hyperbolizing, the idiot said those fucking words.
If they pass this why not just resort to flag football, no contact or blocking, and can only blitz after 5 one thousand 🙄🙄🙄
18 game season, Thursday Night games (excluding Thanksgiving) affect players safety & $ more. Tbh, ejections and games missed would affect it more but owners spent $ for them to play.
I bet in 10 years, we will be seeing non crucial games (games that decide / sway playoff teams) to turn to flag football or some form of 'light tackle' football. With the NFL testing the waters with the probowl now going that route, I could see them trying to find ways to make games that 'dont matter' less of a risk factor. Owners paying players insane amounts of money to now have it being less and less physical.
Now i get it, the money is more in ad revenues, tickets sales etc and losing a top paid player will risk their bottom line.. but at some point, when can we finally realize that its a physical sport and you cant baby everything
So, we’re just two rule changes away from school yard two-hand touch. 😞
Bro what are these 5’10 DBs supposed to do?
In aus rugby there was an issue of teams calling in jujitsu pros to train them in affecting your opponent.
Enforcement will be kinda tricky but you can stop certain individuals from teams speaking to in a training context.
I played all my high school games on grass, except for one game. Given it was early 1970's turf, and all of the guys on my team hated it.We were lucky to come out of it with a couple of ankle injuries and a lot of nasty rug burns. We all said it was like playing on spray-painted concrete.
The body weight rule was for Tony Seregusa ( whatever his name is) on Rich Gannon in the AFC championship game. I think .
Just stick flags on their hips and outlaw tackling altogether at this point. This is getting ridiculous
The obession with "player saftey" is antithetical to competitive sports
Geno had this done to him this year and was pissed for the rest of the game
if they truely cared about safety, they would ban Yards after Contact.
doing so would eliminate 99.9% of all tackeling related injuries.
If the NFL keeps this up, Football will either be played by robots (a la like the movie Real Steel) or will go full-time flag football.
If this rule is implemented and enforced, Derrick Henry could break the single season rushing record.
How are smaller dbs supposed to bring down tight ends
I don’t think most people understand, this is a rare type of tackle. But it’s dangourus. Think about the horse collar tackle on the colts rb Moss last year. Clear penalty. But 15 years ago, that was a clean hit.
Basically a defender can’t use angular leverage from behind an offensive player
As someone who watches a sport with this exact rule in it, it is one of the most inconsistent rules I've seen been enforced
Sigh they keep going on and you won't be able to tackle nobody.
Its perfect for their golden boy
Refs aren't even full time employees in the NFL..think about that.🤷
I can see it as let's say it is in the playoffs, doesn't matter if it is in the Super Bowl but playoffs anyway, the team the Chiefs are playing tries to tackle Mahomes and it looks like a hip drop tackle, you know that the other team will be penalized for 15 yards giving the Chiefs enough yardage at the end of the game to do a game winning play. (I am using the Chiefs since they are the "dynasty" but it could be any team in the Chiefs/Patriots type of championship run.)
Each passing day we get closer and closer to Sarcasta Ball. South park give the Simpsons hell for predictions
Lets be honest, this is something that will only get called when the game is close and in the final 10 minutes. Bonus points if its extremely questionable whether it even applies to the play its called on.
Bubble wrap, pink panties, don't touch the other players....😢 Fuck !
On the one hand, I hate the idea of giving more power to the refs. AND I hate rules that make it even harder for the defenses. On the other hand, my teams season basically ended in week 14 because of a hip drop tackle. So thanks to that bias, I'm on the fence, even though I don't trust the refs to handle this well. But if they keep it in the pocket and only call it in extreme cases, maybe it'll be fine?
I wonder what the players think that have been out because of this, and I wonder what Patrick Mahomes thinks of it, if he comes out against it I don't know how they could do it
As a guy who played defense all thru my career, this suuuucks. Its gonna be a discretionary call, kind of like pass interference, except way harder to judge, as the act (tackling) is very much part of the DNA of the sport. Can't do this.
The nfl should rename the nffl national flag football league
Tom grabs onto Perna's hips and goes deadly... Seems like some Rule 34 stuff. 😅
How exactly are you supposed to tackle someone from behind? Wrap around their legs and then drop? Isn’t that pretty much the same thing? Jersey tackle? What the hell?
Might be a scalding take and no one's probably going to pay much note, but I put the injury blame more on the current state of strength and conditioning training--the common formula for athletes these days is super tight muscles for better sense of athleticism, right? As I understand it, that kind of muscle training puts a ton of strain of ligaments. As a result, you get a lot of freakish athletes breaking all sorts of records, but they're as fragile as porcelain dolls. Maybe even moreso, given the rise of non contact injuries too :(
Yep, that's a real thing. I've been seeing that theory for a long time, too. I think I first saw it in a video about the odd injuries MLB players get sidelined for. Kids coming up throwing 90-100 mph gas in high school blowing out elbows. It started to get bad with the mph graphics on nationally televised games and the graphics in the stadiums. I think it was early 2000's every sport started seeing guys sitting out games for "soreness". And the advent of "load management" on back-to-backs in the NBA came in after LeBron James credited constant weight lifting to his longevity.
ESPN got rid of "Jacked Up!" and started highlighting the best jukes and change-of-direction plays instead. That was after the 2006 season. I think the NFL was being sued for CTE then. All of a sudden everyone wants to plant a foot and put 2-3 times their body weight in force on one spot on the field with only two joints supporting their "killer move" to "create space" all for an 8 yard gain and/or a one-handed catch for ESPN highlights.
I remember watching a REALLY old video about how Michael Jordan, after bulking up to beat the Pistons, got a new trainer who changed up his training routine to include a lot of work on his soft tissues to avoid achilles and other ankle injuries, hand and knee exercises to prevent strains, sprains, pulls, tears, jammed fingers, broken fingers and toes, reduce inflammation in joints, reduce stress to perform and not need recuperation time, improve hand-eye coordination, reflexes, reaction times, and new ways to fall and roll after contact to avoid those injuries also.
I dont even know what hip dropping is
Blow the whistle as soon as a player gets two arms wrapped around the runner. Same way the whistle is blown when foward progress is stopped.
I live in Australia and watch Rugby League (a sport that is played much faster than the NFL), and hip drop tackles were banned a few years ago. Avoiding hip drops is not very hard, especially not in the NFL where play stops a lot and refs are willing to pick up penalty flags. Seems like people are being overly dramatic
I agree with all of that except "refs are willing to pick up penalty flags".
How is a 5’10 corner supposed to tackle a 6’5 monster running at full speed from behind?
He just pretends like he's running too fast and overruns him or pretends like he got juked. If you watch "the nfl is rigged" videos you see that stuff already.
Dont leave your feet when tackling. Its similar to tripping.
Penalty severity needs reviewed. 15 yard, automatic first downs are waaaay too powerful in this version of football that limits the defense so much. I think all defensive penalties should be a replay of the down at the original spot. No given yards, no reset of downs.
What about the bonkers rules the eagles want
Among the proposals is a rule that allows a team to keep possession after scoring by substituting an offensive play of fourth and 20 from its own 20-yard line for an onside kickoff.
If they can acknowledge that switching the sport to be flag football would absolutely decimate ratings then they at least show they understand there is a point that the game becomes less entertaining to watch.
This may be too Tom Brady of a take, but what is the offensive players responsibility in avoiding the hip drop tackle. By definition the hip drop tackle occurs after initial contact when the runner stays up and then is brought down by dead weighting onto his legs.
What is the offensive players responsibility in protecting himself? Just like throwing across the middle, it should be on the quarterback to not throw into a window that will get your player injured. It is not the defenders fault the QB put the receiver in s defenseless position. Dont hang your players out to dry, and the league should not encourage it by tempting the offense with 15 extra yards if they can bait the defense into hitting them.
Roger Goodell is a clown
The best way to massage outcomes to “preferential” winners is to add more and more subjective penalties. But I’m CERTAIN the completely impartial and totally fair NFL wouldn’t (continue to) do that. Amirite?!?!
Instead of being an in-game penalty, make it a post game fine.
Instead of making it an in-game penalty OR a post-game fine make it both AND the head of the NFLPA has to give away his house and cars to the billionaire who owns the home stadium.
Remove helmets from the game and it will get safer.
Don't want to be that guy but Rugby players don't wear any of this padding helmets etc and they do not get the kind of injuries seen in the NFL, they do get injured - and some people have been paralyzed playing rugby but that's very very rare.
Also I don't trust the NFL to implement any rule, new or old so there's that 😂
This is what injured Mahomes in last year’s playoffs against the Jaguars.
Im surprised ppl havent realised this is a way for them to have an easier way of dictating a game. Betting ruined sports. What better way to "coerce" a game in one way or the other than with ANOTHER ticky tack penalty?
10-1 this helps the Chiefs more than once next season.
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Make no mistake this is how tackling is taught and should ALWAYS be taught . When you have someone around the hips without forward movement using your own momentum to bring the other down is football 101. STOP REGULATING NORMAL FOOTBALL! I will stop watching it if they take defense away anymore . Just trot the offensive teams out there and see who can score more points if we are banning normal football like this.
So how is a defender supposed to tackle an offensive player from behind or pursuing down the sideline without this technique? I give you the answer you can’t. And if the nfl says all you can do is trip people up frown behind then they don’t care about safety because that introduces the likely hood that the offensive player will bounce their head of the turf.
Did Josh Allen get hurt by a hip tackle? Buffalo has been in charge of rule changes.
One thing not being addressed is all these rules just being tacked on without any thought not only causes confusion, it's increasing the number of injuries!
I mean how do you avoid injuries when instead of going "oh I'll just run at this guy to stop him" you go "Oh I have to run at this guy from an angle of the square root of negative pi at the height of somewhere between an oompa loompa and Amber Heards ego while making sure to snap my head back like an owl so that I'm not bull-charging all within 2 steps"
I don't watch the National Fixed League anymore.
King Henry going to run for like 4,000yds because no one can drag him down
Just another call that the refs can make whenever they want to get the results the league likes best
I hope all defenses stop tackling. Boycott!
Dump your weight on a QB, straight to jail.
Unweight yourself when sacking a QB also jail.
What about the grass? 😂
It's banned in the NRL. NFL players should learn how to tackle.
Just go to flag football already.
You can’t expect the refs who the NFL can’t be bothered to pay enough to be an official full time to have to make so many judgement calls. The Billionaires running this league should pay these refs enough to be professionals, and they shouldn’t make them have to make so many judgement calls.
Or, hear me out, someone teaches these people that get paid millions of dollars the right way to tackle.
I'm really surprised anyone would be against banning this since it's literally A) easy to avoid and B) Super dangerous.
I recently went back and watched ALL the old Super Bowl games and anyone who thinks that "Oh we're making it so it's touch football!" has never watched old football.
Those guys were allowed to murder a guy on the field back in the day and it made the game significantly worse than what we have today. Significantly.
I do want to make it clear: The NFL is terrible in player safety. That "Tom Brady" rule is so stupid; it only exists because Brady lost a year to a valid play. I don't want to see anyone get hurt (even that fucker Tom Brady) but come on.
Not to even mention how bad they STILL are about concussions. But HIP DROP tackles are pretty easy to get out of the game, my dudes.
Making it easier for refs to throw controversial flags
Ruin NFL Defenses? lol okay. Defenses are already neutered to cater the Offenses.
Mahomes's injury during the playoff run for SB57 was caused by a deliberate hip-drop tackle by Arden Key of the Jags. Watch the replay. He even looked down before he dropped. I think the difficulty of consistent enforcement is a valid argument.
I get it, I get it, I get it, they want less injuries. But you will not get rid of injuries in the NFL. And if the NFLPA says no to a safety rule, that says a lot.
It's like paying taxes. The fines go back to the billionaires. I don't mind paying taxes, but what is it for? "Roads?" Yeah..... ok......
Y'all are gonna keep watching anyway so who cares