Nikon's 28-70 f/2.8 or Tamron's 24-70 f/2.8
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- čas přidán 31. 12. 2019
- The 24-70mm focal length is a must have for most photographers. I now have two! Should I sell my newly repaired Nikon or keep my Tamron that has served me well over the last two tears. Also I found a great repair shop right in my own backyard. Doesn't matter where you live, Westbury Camera can fix your gear. Just give them a call!
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Keep the Nikon. The joy in using a lens that emotionally speaks to you is one of the most underrated sources of inspiration for a good photograph.
Good point, thanks!
Happy New Years guys. I really enjoy watching and learning from your videos....
Thanks Jim! Happy New Year to you! We appreciate you watching!
I think feeling good about your equipment is important. Thanks for sharing your test.
I agree especially with how expensive all of this gear is!
Thanks for the video. I bought a Nikon D610 from the pawnshop 3 years and it came with the Nikon 28-70mm f2.8 but the focusing sucked so I stored and continued to use my Nikon 80-200mm f2.8 until I saw your video 2 weeks ago. I contacted Mordicai and sent It to him, he fixed it and sent it back!! The autofocus is working very well. Thank you for mentioning Mordicai and Westbury Cameras.
Happy to help I noticed his store is not there anymore I was curious what happened to him.
@@BillEricPhotography He works from home now. The store phone number still works.
Good to know. Thanks
I would love to get this old classic lens but I've read the first era of AF-S were failure prone. What did it cost to have it fixed? I love the old screw drive crinkle coat lenses (like your 80-200 f2.8 - i just got one too! amazing!) I'd like to get a copy of this but the AF-S failure prone motor has me worried.
Happy New Year, Fellas! I am sending along my fondest wishes for health, happiness, and continued success in the New Year! I can't wait to see where you take the channel this year! Oh, and I'd keep the Tamron!
Thanks Pete! We both wish you a happy and healthy New year. I think that's what I will do. Or maybe keep both.
@@BillEricPhotography Better yet!
Thanks for the vid. Helped a lot.
Happy to help Mark!
Happy New Year guys! You asked what I would do. Because this lens holds such nostalgia, I would hang on to this lens until something comes up that you REALLY want and parting with this lens will produce a positive feeling that it contributed to you getting that item. If it is not something that makes you say, “I’m glad traded that lens in on this.”, then every time you pull out wherever you traded it in on, you may have a negative reaction to it. A microphone? No way. I know that gear is gear and it shouldn’t be emotional, but who cares. It is what it is.
I can definitely see where you are coming from. I have a feeling when I do get rid of it I might regret it. I've been thinking about keeping both for a little while and seeing if I go to the older lens sometimes. If I don't and I find myself only using the tamron it might make sense to get rid of it at that point
I'm exactly in the same situation, but i couldn't find anyone to repair my 28-70 Nikon in Turkey. I have 24-70 Tamron in my office, but since no one can repair my "beast" Nikon, i think i'm gonna get Tamron. Great video thx.
The Tamron is a nice lens and in hindsight I have enjoyed using it.
Happy New Year DIM!
Happy New Year!!
Happy New Year. Tamron
Thanks! Same to you! I think I agree!
Thanks for the video. I am weighing exactly the same decision. I'm using a Nikon 28-70f2.8, it's sharp, crystal clear, nice colors. But the AF sometimes was not responsive. I am thinking of switching it to the Tamron 24-70 G1 or G2, but what hindering me is the colors. In my experience the colors of Nikon lens are always better than the Tamrons. Unfortunately you did not compare the colors in this video.
I don't think it's something you will be able tell the difference between unless you look at images side by side.
Great video. Thank you for the link. I have the Nikon 24-120 f4 and Tamron 24-70 and was going to sell the 24-120, but I decided to keep it. Still getting use to the 24-70, seems a little over exposed, but I’m sure it’s me.
Happy to help. Every lens is a bit different. You may have to under expose a bit with the 24 to 70.
It is 1/2 stop more. Because of big filter opening.
Happy New year to you both. I would probably keep them both but if I had to make a choice I would keep the Tamron for the IS and it still being under warranty 🤔
Same to you Paul! I'm probably going to end up keeping both. But I agree if I do get rid of one it will be the Nikon
Also worth considering if the 4mm on the wide end is important in the comparison between these lenses. I’ve never shot with the 28-70 but I own the Tamron 24-70 G2 version of that same lens for my D750 and I’d hate to lose the little bit on the wide end but it certainly isn’t the end of the world or anything. The closest comparison I have between the 2 is I also have an old Sony A72 and the tamron 28-75 lens. I’ve only run into one instance where I was out shooting with only that camera and lens and really wished I had 24mm to better frame my shot (couldn’t back up any further) but I made due and ended up being pretty happy with the image overall but 24mm would’ve suited that shot better. Of course one could stitch a panorama together if needed (this wasn’t paid work and it was just “snapshot” on vacation so I didn’t get to crazy with it but there are work arounds obviously in many situations).
That's a great point! That extra 4 mm might make a difference. I hadn't thought of that! One more reason to keep the Tamron!
Great video as usual! I have several lenses I bought over the years in the 24-135 range including Nikons and Tamron because that is the range I shoot in most of the time. I do not need long lenses. I like my Tamron 24-70 G2 even though I have a Nikon 24-70, but lately I have been shooting with a Nikon 24-85 3.5. I like the older lenses but if I had to part with one, I would keep the Tamron.
That is what I will do. The Nikon can't be used with new mirrorless cameras from what I understand. It has a physical drive for the focus motor that the mirrorless didn't have.
The screw drive won't work on the mirrorless cameras. Too bad,! I have some good D lenses but I have DSLRs that they do work on. Good tip on that repair guy! Nikon is getting rid of their "authorized" repair centers except for the company ones.
I have some older lenses also. I guess they will have to go when I switch eventually. Westbury camera is great. He is very fair and you can ship to him from anywhere.
@@BillEricPhotography hey awesome video thanks for making it. I’ve got a few questions is this camera shop still open and can you send me their address and information so I can call them thanks for a huge fan of your work
Unfortunately he closed during covid.
How would you compare the speed of the autofocus on the Tamron compared to the super quick focus of the Nikon?
I’m leaning towards the Tamron but quick focus is important to me.
I never had any issues with the autofocus speed. And my Tamron 70 to 200 that I used for years had very fast autofocus that was always accurate.
Possibly you could have checked for flare outside where both lenses would predominantly be used
I guess I could have, sometimes when I'm comparing these lenses I try to think of how to most people use them. To be honest with you I just didn't think of it.
Of course VR is great. But regarding lens distortion with the Nikon you can use Auto Distortion Correction IN CAMERA Much easier and better than correcting in Post. There is no auto Distortion control for non-Nikon lenses
It's a one click fix that takes less than a second in Lightroom. I'm not even sure I know what you're talkin about with in camera distortion correction. Is that a setting in the camera?
@@BillEricPhotography Do you mean that Lightroom has distortion correction curves built in for certain Nikon lenses? I have seen that in some photo editing software. Does it also have curves for non-Nikkor lenses? The software I looked at did not have the built-in curves for all of the Nikkors and and it only had it for a few non-Nikkors
Yes, The Nikon Auto Distortion Correction is a camera setting. On your D750 go to Menu>Photo Shooting>Auto Distortion Control>On . It's really handy because there is one less correction to perform in Post Processing. I had my D500 for almost a year before I came across it :-0
It works for almost all Nikon AF lenses (all 14 of mine), including the 28-70 f2.8 I got this week. Of course it only works for Nikkors
Thanks for all the good information
If you can get 5 or 6 hundred for that used Nikon lens, take it. Although I’m surprised that the image stabilization didn’t work better on the Tamron lens. I’m not sure if you saw that recent photo I posted of the Cartier building with the Christmas decorations that was taken Handheld at 1/5 of a second. The image was amazingly sharp. That’s what I’ve come to expect from image stabilization.
Although I do tend to favor native lenses, the Tamron is a great lens and much newer than the Nikon which could break again at any time.
I agree, I think the in body stabilization in better than when it's in the lens. I'm probably going to sell the Nikon or maybe just keep both.
Disney Image Makers I’d love to visit that dealer and look at the old cameras.
The Tamron is a sweet lens but for me there is no question about choosing the Nikon is easy for me because the Tamron is gelded. An aperture ring makes the lens more versatile, able to be adapted to other systems like Sony and MFT, and more importantly to me, usable on old Nikon film cameras. Aperture rings are worth gold.
The Nikon was a great lens, but if you can get some $$ for it and make a "profit" after the repair, (remember broken it would be a great paper weight) then it has to go. Image wise they look the same, IS has got to be a plus, as is the warrenty left on the Tamron.
I agree. Tough to let it go even though I know the Tamron would be a better fit going forward! Thanks for the input.
keep it? I just got mine. I'd keep it.
I bought the tamron 24-70 2.8 for my Canon RP was going to get the canon 24-105 f4 glad I got the tamron very very sharp
Plus it's 2.8! I have been very happy with mine. How do you like the RP? Is it ok in low light?
@@BillEricPhotography I think it is very good in low light
Disney Image Makers I have one, specs are over rated, the RP is fantastic in low light, in fact any camera in the past few years are all fantastic in low light, the RP is on Par with canon’s most pro camera at high ISO’s , it’s only at iso 100 it is a stop or two lower of dynamic range. But still we are blessed with even having an RP only costing a little of 1,000?? You kidding me it’s a fantastic camera
I think you’ve just made the best argument for keeping both lenses in that the 30 year old lens is fixed, but for how much longer? The Tamron has warranty left but will parts be available when that runs out. They are both exceptional lenses but neither one is perfect. I’d keep the Tamron as the primary lens and the Nikon as a backup, it’s not the same as having 2 copies of a fisheye lens. But then again I might want a fisheye.....(bye Nikon)
That makes sense. I love both of them for different reasons. Maybe use the Nikon outdoors when shutter speed isn't an issue and keep the tamron for when it is.
I'd keep whichever lens works best on the FTZ adapter...
Then it's the Tamron!
@@BillEricPhotography I have a chance to buy the Nikon 28-70. I'd be using it on a Z5 with the FTZ. Is there an issue with this combo? I did see one forum where a chap claimed the 28-70 fried his FTZ! Thanks.
That lens actually will not work with the Z5 and the adapter It has a screw motor for the autofocus instead of an electronic motor. So any old Nikon d lenses won't work with this camera.
@@BillEricPhotography I’m pretty sure it should. It is a D lens, but it’s also an af-s lens with the silent wave motor. It’s almost between generations, but it should work without screw drive. Ken Rockwell’s website said it will anyway haha.
Well unfortunately Ken is wrong on this one. It definitely does not work with these cameras.
Any idea how would these lens perform on Z cameras? Which would be better?
I have always been a big third party lens user so I have no issues with not using Nikon lenses on my cameras. However if you're going to adapt an f mount lens to the new mirrorless cameras I would probably stick to the Nikon version if you were using these two specific lenses. My Tamron lens was giving me all sorts of issues as far as compatibility. I ended up trading it in and getting a Nikon 24 to 70 F4 for the z mount. This has been a fantastic lens. Fast focusing and sharp. I do miss the 2.8 aperture sometimes but the cost difference was substantial.
@@BillEricPhotography I own the Z f/4 24-70…I still think of a 2.8…
@BillEricPhotography agreed. I have the Tamron 17-50mm f2.8 for Nikon. It's fantastic on my D7200. But on my Z5, it's hit and miss.
You mentioned that the Nikon 28-70mm AF-S F2.8 is a 30 year old lens made in 1993. Sorry but you're simply wrong. This lens was manufactured from early 1999 till 2007. In 1998 Nikon introduced AF-S using an ultrasonic motor (called "silent wave").
I must have made a mistake. This lens has the old screw type focus not a silent wave motor.
But as far as I'm aware the 28-70mm F2.8 never had a screw type focus despite its D designation ( which means it includes a manual aperture ring). Was it not always an AF-S lens? It's predecessor the 35-70mm F2.8 did (I own both) .
Any updates? What did u end up deciding?
I ended up trading both because neither one worked with the Nikon z cameras
Wow. Tough call Bill. I almost want to tell you to keep both of them and only use the Nikon for bokeh shots. But that seems so wasteful. You could definitely get a 32mm EF-M for the M50 for that money if you don't already have it (can't remember if you said you had that or not). My very limited use of it so far tells me it is a very nice lens. Good luck with your decision and Happy New Year to both you and Eric.
Thanks Tom happy New Year! That's actually a pretty good idea. I don't have a 32 mm yet and I think it would be perfect for my M50 kit! Decisions decisions!
@@BillEricPhotography LOL. Sorry if made it tougher for you to decide.
Haha no problem I appreciate the info, thanks!
Nikon is strong. All metal. More value. It got good lens hood,
Not to mention it works on almost every Nikon camera since 1977, the tamron won’t.
Great point!
Keep? I am gonna buy the Nikon 28-70 tomorrow. 😃😃
I actually had to trade it because it doesn't work with the Nikon mirrorless cameras. So keep that in mind if that's your plan
@@BillEricPhotography No worry. Gonna use it on my D850, D810, D800 and D700. Considering the Nikon Z line I have absolute no interest buying that. Yes I shoot mirrorless but only with Fujifilm. If Nikon decides to kill their dslr line I will just buy another D850 to keep it for later.
@@Audimannthe d850 the best out there
That Nikon bokeh though! Don’t you guys use tripods most of the time? Does the IS surpass the bokeh for you if you’re usually on a tripod? Sounds like that’s where the decision ends up. At the end of the day, they both look great. But that bokeh though!
I’d say in this focal range we’re mostly handheld, so IS can be pretty important.
I will add that The bokeh is very nice with the Nikon. I may keep both!
Yeah, great review. I enjoyed it and came to one conclusion. If you want to photograph book cases and Christmas tree baubles, go for a skanky baby age tamron. Personally I prefer the decent lens, the ancient pro (but optically just about as good) nikon
Massive sarcasm intended
Sadly they are both gone now and have been replaced with a new Nikon 24 to 70 F4 z-mount. Neither one works on my new z5.
@@BillEricPhotography Well, you ended up with the best of the two by far at the end :) So the 28-70 was not working with the FTZ even if it has an internal AF-S motor and is not screw driven? Just because it’s a D lens? That’s strange indeed
It was a screw drive lens.
@@BillEricPhotography Hi, the 28-70 is an AF-S lens, I have one and it's even written on the lens itself "Silent Wave Motor" :) Actually what it broke down for you is the AF-S mechanism, which is a know issue with those lenses ;) Maybe there is a firmware/hardware incompatibility with the FTZ, apparently it doesn't work with early AF-S (but still D) lenses, they actually fry the adapter!
Mine was an old one. It was actually built in 1993. It definitely was a screw drive. Believe me I wish it would have worked with the new camera.
Keep the Tamron. 👍
I think that's the way I'm leaning! Or maybe keep both.
@@BillEricPhotography That's also possible. A backup lens in that range is great too. But I think you will use one of those not so much and that is a bummer. The Tamron is a newer lens but the Nikon is great also. Tough choices.
Definitely a tough choice!
Good video but when you talk, leave the images on the screen so people still can stare on them while you are talking. :)
Good idea thanks
Nikon is built like a tank.
Definitely a big heavy lens!
Hi so wish leans you keep nikon or tamron please
It depends on the camera now if you are shooting with a Nikon mirrorless then you have to be careful which Tamron you get only the G2 lenses will work with it. And my older Nikon lens from this video will not work with their mirrorless system even with the adapter. It has a screw focus ring that the mirrorless cameras can't work with.
Wow thanks for answer me
I have nikon d850
Either one of those lenses will work with the Nikon d850. Don't think you always have to buy Nikon Sigma and Tamron make some excellent lenses for Nikon full frame cameras. If you can try to get the latest versions of them. If you ever plan on moving to mirrorless Sigma is a better choice because their lenses all work on the new Nikon mirrorless system.
Now I going to buy the tamron new one 24-70mm f2.8 g2
Don't sell the the Nikon 28-70...
You're gonna miss it!
I think you are right. It's such a nice sharp lens! If I switch to mirrorless it's not going to work though.
Disney Image Makers i actually have the 28-70 and it has no problems autofocusing using the ftz! And you’re right it’s an impressive older lens to use, I def love mine
I can tell you I've always regretted my 28-70 nikon. I bought the 24-70 for the IS which, in fact, I don't use .. and the Tamron broke down just 2 months after the end of its warranty limit ... I regret it.
It's a great old lense for sure.
keep the nikon
I am for know. If I find I'm not using it I might sell it. Time will tell!
"Grey market" 😱 ..😂😂😂
Photography is my hobby, I am not an expert, but I was skeptical of Tamron when I was introduced to it back in my film days, ( it was all I could afford ) and now after all these years, It's the only glass I'll use, they just keep getting better. The 24 - 70mm f/2.8 g2 is the next lens for my Nikon D-750
I own to Tamron lenses right now, the 24 to 70 and the 70 to 200 and they are both terrific lenses. I actually think most of the lens is now are pretty equal. The third-party manufacturers have come a long way.
If you just dont need it. You can sent it to me. Both arm and feet are open to accept your kindness! 😍🥰😊👍😇💪🤘😘🥳😇😍🥰😛😎🤩
I wish I could! I think I will sell it and put it towards my next camera body.
Hexagonal? Not even close. The Tamaron has 9 diaphragm blades. Hex=6, Sep=7, Oct=8 Non=9 NONAGANAL bokeh
Thanks for the correction. Either way I prefer the Nikon's.
@@CincaiCincai888 the Nikon is 9 blades, as well. Interesting how the bokah are so different with the same 9 blade diaphragm
Nikon can go 'Eff themselves with this grey market BS. All the more reason to go with another manufacturer if you've got the money.
That said, I will not stop buying grey market lenses & cameras because of the price. Like cars, this hobby is way overpriced anyway.
I don't know how the non-professional can afford some of this stuff. I was happy with my old FM2/FE2 cameras, but the technology changed.
Looking forward to 2020... Man, that didn't age well. Lol
haha, no