Canon C100 Mark II Review - After 6 Years of Ownership
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- čas přidán 21. 08. 2024
- Emmy Award winning filmmaker, Brian Kissig reviews the Canon 100 Mark II after owning it for 6 years. This is a good quality C series cinema camera, but lacks 4K functionality and the high frame rates that mirrorless cameras offer. Cinema cameras are great for people who are serious about cinematography, but is this one that you should be in 2023? There may be better options.
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Still waiting for a client to request a 4k project. They just don't seem to care. 1080 is plenty to view on a projector, monitor and online. What they do want is for us to tell a great story.
Same here. I try to offer 4K but no one wants it (one even asked for 1080 delivery which he was going to upscale to 4K for CZcams, and turned down 4K delivery from me 🤷♂️)
I'm a member of the C100M2 cult and I totally relate to the love. The C100 M2 is just so well designed and so reliable that its hard not be intensely loyal to it. The built-in ND's alone is one of the reasons I'm having such a hard time going to a good mirrorless 4K camera now. I really have been spoiled using a true cine camera and it's hard to go back. I still plan to hold onto my C100's for long events and concerts. As I said in my recent review, many C100 users including myself are amazed that such tiny files with a mediocre codec grade so well - just an amazing camera.
C100M2 Cult! Love it! I've definitely been a part of that.
I cant justify a 4k or 8k camera as I really dont need it nor would I get any benefits from it, this camera is great because it doesnt take huge video files and has ND's its just a solid workhorse and newer cameras arent offering anything unless you spend a boatload of money.
@@pilsplease7561 I have a love/hate relationship with my C100 in 2023 (though it's so freakin' reliable it almost trumps everything else). Sometimes I see beautiful, sharp footage with painless rich color...but that said sometimes the lack of dynamic range and pixelation in the shadows really shows me how dated this sensor/codec is. I plan to hold onto mine as safety/B cams for long events, but the camera is obsolete - I'm just not ready to pay for a new cine body and faster computer that handles the 4k just yet.
I've been using the c100 mk2 since 2016. It's been an incredible workhorse, and in my view the IQ for event / conference / live shows continues to be very strong. I'll continue to utilise this beauty till it drops.
I’m using the original C100 Mark I for live-streaming. I love it.
Do you have any issues with aliasing? When I run it through my atem mini, it has weird jagged edges on diagonal lines.
@@64dr64d look into your hdmi settings. Make sure it’s set to clean hdmi output.
Just bought one and I can’t wait to use it.
awesome!
Me too. As an owner of a 5D MK4 I already a lot of EF lenses so a Canon video camera makes total sense for me and I'm only dabbling.
I definitely think it's still worth it in 2023. I've recently talked about this camera on my channel and it still holds up. People complain about not having 4K. Edit your video and export in 4K. Problem solved. Or better yet...throw all the clips in media encoder and re-export all of them out in 4K. The 8bit codec, while 8bit, still looks good and it's almost some sort of witchcraft that it still looks that good. I've also recommended the owlbot color profile for this camera as it looks WAAAAAAY better than the built-in c-log. The camera is only missing useable face tracking autofocus. You can also still buy the camera brand new through Adorama, but yes...B&H has sent the camera to the grave...well body only. You can still get it brand new from B&H with the crappy 24-105 lens and at that point...definitely not worth it.
maybe ai up resing can help too
@@BrianKissig Sarah Deitchy actually did a video on that recently and used the C100mkii! It was absolutely amazing and a game changer, but as she stated the processing speed is just not there. It takes FOREVER to render out an AI file like that. I've had no issues just exporting a 4K file from a 1080p timeline since it's already a 4K image downsample to 1080p.
Hey thanks for the recommend of OWLCOLOR! It's really starting to get some traction so I appreciate it.
@@Owlbot definitely appreciative! It’s a great profile.
@@alexshotthese I've had the same experience - AI is great for stills, but man it takes a long time for video
I just bought a brand new one for $1649 a few minutes ago. It is all I need because 4K hasn't taken over in my world yet.
I use C100 MK1 and MK2, and when you upscale the footage to 4K, it looks 4K (just a tad soft), so even if someone asks you to do 4K, you can easily upscale it. It blends well with actual 4K footage.
@@lit2021 Thanks!
@@lit2021what do you use for Upscaling?
@@serialfilmmaker7109 just basic scaling in Premiere works well, but if you want something better, I would recommend Topaz Video AI, it's absolutely amazing, but the rendering times are huge.
@@serialfilmmaker7109 Oh I forgot to mention, you absolutely need to turn off in-camera sharpening, otherwise the upscaled footage will look terrible!
I have both MK1 and MK2, and the MK1 picture looks better, more cinematic. But the MK2 has actual continuous auto-focus and a lot of little improvements that make it much easier to use. If you're gonna use MK1's HDMI output, be aware it outputs PsF, which is a pain to deal with, but I discovered that if you plug it into Ninja Blade, and then use the Blade's HDMI output, it actually does a pulldown and you get real progressive HDMI.
Still using mine on a regular basis
Comparing the C100 Mii and the C200 you should also be arware of the TCO - the C200 is MUCH more cost intensive.
Just got an incredible deal for one of these cameras and they immediately fit in with my sony mirrorless. Using them as my "vintage" camera in my edits by adding tons of grain and 16fps plus handholding it with a 18-135mm makes it feel like a super8 camera more than just slapping on a filter on the sonys. Plus it's built like a tank which works for the weddings I do. They certainly made something amazing with this camera.
Brian in my opinion I think for the next ck production video you should make a five minute documentary about Mooney the cat because I love Mooney he is so cute 🥰
It would be a great camera for many uses, but in my country its price does not drop enough to choose it over a GH4 for example.
Finally sold off all 3 of my C100s to upgrade to 4K / 6K and higher bitrates and 4:2:2 but I still miss the built in NDs.
Been using one for 5 years now. I shoot for businesses mostly which ends up on Facebook/YoutTube so the high frame rates and 4k just don’t matter to me.
I’ll still continue using this for a while most likely
really? because i play less than 4k only when there is absolutely no other possibility whatsoever...
why shoot yourself in the foot right at the start when equipment, storage and processing power never been cheaper and more readily available?
even this stupid "camera to the talking face" format is shot at 4k. hmmmm - i wonder why...
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I have 2 C100 MkI & would consider upgrading, but only for a better picture quality. I don't care about 4k & taking pictures.
Do newer cameras produce a much better 1k image ?
My only complaint is using sd cards & having to deal with 2gb partitions. which lose data. Makes it a pita to sync with audio from my Sound Devices audio.
Nice video, love your beautiful cat, I was just wondering what you meant when you said that you could output a clean pro res image from this camera ?
Hey...I have this camera and I use it mostly with a Sigma 18-35mm f1.8...I also bought the huge 50-100mm f1.8!! I use them mostly for interviews...but for weddings now I use a Sony FX30...however, I have decided that I will continue to use the C100 mk2 for weddings and some live events that will end up in 1080p- I prefer to use it on a tripod- but I have used it on a sturdy monopod. It's not too bad. Even though I shoot in 4k with the FX30 (and also a Canon 90D-it's 4k is not as good as the 4k from the Sony FX30) I always downrez to 1080p timeline-my clients don't need 4k for the most part. I won't buy a Ninja V or any external recorder-the original mp4 footage is nice even in Wide DR. I always bring lights to my events-even a little bit of light helps. Now to the question...I need a longer zoom for interviews and to record speeches- and some run and gun on a monopod- I have several STM lenses- the 18-135mm f3.5-5.6 STM is ok but I wish I could get a good f2.8 IS for video...the 24-105mm f4 L is nice (but it becomes 36mm to 150mm f4 on the C100 correct) and that F4 is not appealing...what lens would you get today in 2023 for the C100 mk2? I will keep this for as long as I can! The C200 would be too much...and a camcorder like the Canon XF605 (damn I like Canon stuff!) just won't give the same video quality...thanks for the video!
You look like you could be David Wallace's son from the Office! Also, great video thank you so much
Haven't heard that one before! But you're welcome
Adorama IS still selling these new by the way
My favourite part of this video is 'spot the cat' :D
Same i lov cats min died 3 weeks ago from old age he was 18 butt the good news is I got to grow up my whole childhood with my cat tank
I don't have the budget for the 200. But im gonna get the 100 which I found for 600 dollars. Crazy you paid almost 4000 dollars for it.
I’m looking to purchase a camera but I Dont want to grab a camera that’s almost outdated. What is the next step in camera that will replace this camera?
C200 is virtually the same camera but more updated and outputs 4k
@@BrianKissig thank you. I’ll look into it.
I am thinking of getting one for live streaming
Great camera for that
I just bought this camera and I LOVE it. I also have an EOS-M that does 5.2k RAW but to get the videos looking as good as the C100 MKII takes some work. People use phones these gays anyway so 4k is not needed. And I don't shoot films to be seen on the big screen. Even then 1080p is fine.
But I have different cameras for different uses though also.
What about this vs the C200? At least for weddings (nevermind, just saw the last part, lol)
Big fan!
@@BrianKissig of me or of the C200? Lol
got both and use both for weddings - C200 has better /not much/ ISO performance and AF, a bit better DR, better and semi-touch LCD, better LCD position, better sound options, mounting and operating option, 4K 60p, slowmo, much better NDs, better top and side handle no wiggling, 14bit Raw option, fits to the roninS or the same bag, tripods... and takes the same cheap sdxc, better rec and menu options and so on, everything is better except batt life, noisy fan, weight, and boot up-shut down time. Many times I cannot discern what was shot with what camera and rather grab C100ii /kind of easier to work with/
Stick to the cameras m8, as you not going to make a comedian. 👍
Good informative video. Thanks.
I’ll keep my C100 M2.
So youre telling me I can still record 4k with my 12 years old C100 mk1 with an Atomos Ninja V?
Youre telling me there is hope?
The output to Ninja V is 8bit 4:2:2 1920x1080 but higher quality than a camera recording 1920x1080. You can upsample the render to 4K from your editor.
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That is truth, people do review's on the older camera's and run prices up for those who just starting out. I tell people all the time just go with a new camera even if it's a Canon M50 ii, don't spend the money on Older gear because it is overrated and over priced!! 1 of my students ask should they buy a Canon 5d III, My words was no, not at all! Buy a Sony 6400 or Canon rp for the same price and you have eye af that will benefit more
Nah I don’t agree
Yah not at all true.
I just bought a c100mkii for €600 and I'm in love. A camera of this quality, for €600?? I already had two Canon lenses, so I bought it and started shooting. Smooth slow motion, 1080p, integrated ND filters... I'm in favor of buying cameras that are a few years old with quality and cheap 💪🏻👌🎞️📹🎥
Eye AF will benefit more? You’re teaching the wrong stuff man.