New SpaceX Lunar Starship Update!
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- New SpaceX Lunar Starship Update!
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What topics should we cover next on the channel?
on friday the 4th season of the apple tv series for all mankind will end maybe do something with the season
Maybe what the ULA is and how/why it came to be?
Also there goals.
@@AvocadoDrue Like that
Some of the new technologies like Maggie and the engines produced at Nasa's engine lab.
How about the rope ladder the lunar astronauts will use when the elevator fails...
Just found this channel
Now this is what I'm looking for instead of negative media content
The Stoke news was very well covered - until the end, when you said perhaps 2024. They've concentrated almost all of their effort on the upper stage, there's still a lot of work to be done on the first stage, especially the engine. The end of 2025 is the best possible estimate I can think of.
Artemis III has been delayed to 2026, in the video you said "take a crew of astronauts to the lunar surface in 2025", not sure if you are aware of this or not!
So sad, but this was to be expected
Twas a pretty recent update. Sometimes CZcams vids can be a few days behind because they’re lots of work! Sad to hear about the delay but honestly completely unsurprised.
Artemis II will be in September 2025, Artemis III in September 2026, and Artemis IV in September 2028 followed by yearly missions until 2035 with Artemis XI and a fully-functional lunar base by then (Like the ISS on the Moon).
It’ll be 2050 if Boeing is involved
Hahaha Starship first on Mars
Great video!
Awesome to see what Stoke Space are doing! Looks like they'll be doing some fantastic stuff really soon!
It's great that they're going full-on with reusability - that's definitely the way to go!
I'm guessing the second tower constructed at Boca Chica will be a prototype catch tower meaning that all the launch infrastructure won't be needed. Should be a quick build!
I agree that is the likely initial plan - gets it built fairly quickly and a failed catch is less likely to cause significant damage to the actual launch infrastructure - but I do think that SpaceX will lay out the space around the second tower so that it can be upgraded to a fully functional launch pad at a later date. The massive foundations and steel plate deluge system for the current launch pad was all built after the IFT-1 destruction without needing to disturb the existing tower at all so presumably SpaceX could add heavy foundations, a full launch mount and a deluge system at a later date after the second tower has been up and running and doing catches for a while.
@@julianfp1952 also we've yet to see any details of how a Starship is to be loaded with materials and eventually crew. The new tower may have a part to play in helping SpaceX develop ground side facilities and techniques for loading and unloading, leaving the launch tower to refine the launch and safety systems.
Great approach by Stoke with minimal inspections and refurbishment. Best of luck to them.
Great stuff! You guys just keep getting better and better! 😎
Real person here.
Excellent content as always.
Always information that I don't hear from others.
Keep it up
Stoke Space is the most exciting design of the new space companies. SpaceX and Rocket Lab are further along, but the Stoke design looks as revolutionary as Starship, only with a smaller payload market in mind.
Ye agreed
"as revolutionary as Starship" LOL. Another MuskCult member who thinks Musk ship will do everything.
Great report! Thanks!
Brilliant video. Thanks.
Thanks!
Thx
This is amazing progress, we are truly living in the future.
The new year really felt like the transition to the space era of human history, especially because of Vulcan's first flight.
love Stoke New Rocket watch out space x i hope that it will work very well lets have more videos about them please
I was wondering just how Stokes Nova rocket capsule is going to survive the extreme heat upon reentry i.e. are the rocket exhausts holes going to be able to take heat reentering the nozzles?
Pure genius
Thank you for the Dr Doof reference “it’s weird that it happened twice”
The second Spacex tower, how close it is it to the first one? Will there be any shielding between them?
Stoke? I have never heard of them, but they sound promising. Looking forward to seeing more about them.
I wonder if Maggie could support cargo as well? Maybe even a passenger. The passenger would be suspended below the craft with straps.
Pretty sure NASA would have a fit if astronauts did this but what I view they would have.
Sure they can test Maggie in a nearly airless environment but what about gravity? They won't be able to simulate the lack of gravity here on Earth.
But on the other hand. If it stands up to testing here then it should be more than enough to deal with Mars.
Still there may be some unforeseen things that we won't see due to this limitation. Like how the craft will behave in in a log G environment.
What do you call a fly in outer space?
An astrognat!
Does anyone know what kind of payload capabilities Stoke's rocket is projected to have?
Regarding the SpaceX lander I hope someone has verified that the lander won’t tip over when the crane hoists a heavy load on the elevator. I wouldn’t want to be on board if that were to happen.
Regarding Stokes capsule a drawback of the non steerable rockets would be if they lose one engine it will mean they lose two in order to keep the thrust vector going down the centerline of the ship.
"I hope someone has verified that the lander won’t tip over when the crane hoists a heavy load on the elevator."
That's the biggest flaw in starship's design; when it lands it has an emopty tank at the bottom and all the payload at the top. The chances of landing exactly vertical are none and if they are already leaning towards the side where the elevator is then they are going to have to be ver careful with how they load it. Once they take off they cannot change the order of unloading anymore, so my guess is that their first cargo to unload will be something like guy lines to stabalize starship with.
But Moon in 2025 with a starship seems very unlikely given that the only two flights that Starship has done to date have exploded. They have yet to make it reliable, they have yet to get it human-rated, they have not done anything on refuelling... testing that crane is a non-event no matter how you look at it.
I would imagine they’ll need some degree of self-levelling capability in the legs. I think SpaceX already has some experience with that on Falcon 9 boosters. When SpaceX lost that booster that tipped over on the drone ship in heavy sees recently one article I read said that later Falcon 9 boosters have some self-levelling capability in their legs but that that upgrade hadn’t been retrofitted to the booster that was lost because it was so old.
@@vinny142the heavy lift Starship does not need to be human rated. It is for lifting fuel to orbit. The lunar starship is different and is being human rated from the start. See other answer per self leveling legs
Stoke's idea for the upper stage vehicle is brilliant, imo.
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I think if the elevator had walls and a roof the enclosed volume would exceed that of the Apollo LM!
Much bigger. What size did Bonespur report his apartment: about 30,000 sq ft?
Makes me wonder if their going to have a refueling station up there for flights to mars.
Niac grants do not equate to "greenlighting" something. "Greenlighting" something implies that it's going to fly. Niac projects are for investigating the feasibility of advanced concepts. They are not mission awards.
What will happen if the lift stall
When he Nicole Mann I immediately thought about Interstellar
The fact that a lot of these people worked on those systems, means they are very easily able to be sued if they're not careful.
30 engines is asking for troubles exactly as was with N1.
This doesnt seem to be AI generated, good stuff
Bad news. NASA just recently delayed the moon landing. It isn't landing in 2025 but september 2026. Artemis 2 was also delayed to september 2025.
Yeah... not even 2 weeks into the new year and there are only bad news after bad news.
@@mofik26 It was expected. There was no way SpaceX could get the minimum 60 launches with starship in less than 2 years that NASA wants to prove Starship reliability and safety and to perfectly land on other moons and planets, orbital refueling, tower catching the booster and starship/landing successfully all the time and more. 3 years might not even be enough either if the FAA keeps taking long to allow SpaceX to fly. If so Artemis might be delayed by another 6 months to a year.
A good book on how to frugally colonize our solar system is Second Exodus Colony. Located at the Internet Archives.
I’m glad you don’t draw us in with false narratives
moon elevator? omg we are never going to the moon (again?)....
I am assuming that the program will be declared too expensive and canceled.
From here to 2028, Artemis Team will have at least something of a HLV to train in! They'll have a hard time training "how to go up & down procedures" for the elevator... (on everything you have to start by something!)... Mission plan will surely say: "Step 1: be sure to don your EVA suit. 2. Be sure to be into some gravitational field. This elevator model is NOT designed to work properly outside a gravitational field. 3.- Open the gate 4.- Step into the elevator. 5.- Push the "down" button. 6.- Be sure BEFORE pushing the button your companion has stepped into the elevator too. 7.- Wait until the elevator gets on the ground. 8.- Open the handrail (you have to have secured it BEFORE pushing the "down" button). 9.- Be sure elevator has reached ground. 10.- Step outside elevator. Welcome! you are N° 14 & 15th visitors on the Moon. 11.- To return to the lander: 1.- Be sure the elevator is on the ground. In case it is not, you'll have a long way to climb 2.- Step inside. 3.- Close the handrail. 4.- Push the "up" button. 5.- BEFORE pushing it you must be sure your companion has stepped in too. 6.- Wait until the elevator goes up to the desired level (the only desired one). 7.- Open the gate (In the case it was closed. We forgot the step for closing it in the going down section). 8.- Step into the lander. Close the gate. 9. In case your companion didn't get to come in, re-open the gate, pull him/her in and sclod him/her a bit to be so slow. Close the gate again. 10.- In case this was the last lunar EVA, open the gate again and pull the elevator frames, cable included, into the lander. 11.- Close the gate.
N° 13 and 14
As far as Stoke is concerned, I wish them well, I really do, but reusability is easier said then done. every one of their systems make sense, but you'd be a fool not to see that if they lose just 1 of the Upper stage engines its over. Also if they somehow have a problem with their hydrogen coolant system, Its over. They have essentially widdled away everything to make it lighter and cheaper, but what they have also done is take away any securities of redundancies in case of failures. I guess we will have to see, but i am predicting that Development will take twice as long as they expect, and the finished product will be vastly more expensive than they predict, and the vehicle itself will not be as robust and as reliable as they originally predicted.
Open-Air? Open-Vacuum Elevator!
I wish it could land next to our rover and blow the dust off their solar panels!
FIRST!
close, but no cigar
At the glacial rate of Gov. approval, SpaceX will be doing good to launch 2 or 3 this year or the next....
if you weren't aware, rockets aren't supposed to explode, even the test ones. When they do they have to investigate to make sure it doesn't explode again.
@@MoheeheekoIf you weren’t aware, spacex designs their rockets by testing them to their limits repeatedly rather than spending years making sure that their first flight is successful. They’re not supposed to explode, but they’re also not _not_ supposed to explode. It seems to have worked pretty well for them so far.
Man I really enjoy the way you do content! Keep up the good work
I'm really excited to see Stoke's progress with the second stage and its collection of innovations. 🔥🚀
hi guys thanks for the updates on the new space race some great invitations in this new project let’s hope it goes well for them David 🚀👌❤️🇬🇧👍
So if Stoke Space becomes successfull it will not take long that they will be bought by a major player in the space industry. It could be Blue Origin or ULA because Elon spent too much money on twitter.
That was super interesting. I firmly believe taking Dr. Lapsa's smaller approach and land smaller spacecraft would be much safer and more successful than Elon Musk trying to land his huge tippy Starship on iffy Martian soil. If you noticed everything has to be designed around giant Starship. They should treat Starship as more of a ferry and leave Starship in orbit and receive smaller spacecraft into a payload bay like the old NASA space shuttles. If it is possible to manufacture propellant on Mars, smaller spacecraft could transport it from Mars surface to Starship for the return to Earth.
You’re talking about adding cost and complexity when it might not be necessary, and you’re assuming the Starship is going to be tippy and have a poor center of gravity. Remember, a fully fueled Starship upper stage needs 1200 tons of fuel, so that would require 50 launches & landings, along with orbital rendezvous.
My god. A comment and a reply that both make good points. What witchcraft is this?
@@TraditionalAnglican I now understand that Starship will be accompanied by fuel tankers so refueling will not be an issue. I really appreciate these new ideas coming out. Practical spaceflight design and application that might possibly ensure a greater degree of success. I want to see Starship succeed but bigger is not always better.
I lose in Chess a lot so I may be wrong overall. 😜
@@lomeinottp Two words for you: fuel slosh.... so I wouldn't treat refueling in orbit as something easy.
@@lomeinottp - The refueling depot would be in LEO; the tankers would refuel it in LEO; & the most practical way to refuel Starship on Mars using fuel produced on Mars. It’s already bottom heavy (the engines), and the stance for Mars/Luna bound Starships could be widened using the same type of legs we have on the Falcon boosters (just stronger & wider)…
Surely this is a joke, right? And it's not even April yet...
Boys, EVERYONE that is going to be on those flights to the Moon or Mars needs to know how to use those elevators. Especially the folks that are not assigned to have to use those controls
. Come on. You know the first time they get there, everybody but the cool is going to run out and play. So how's going to bring it back up to push the buggy on it and lower it down? That's right, the cook
First of all, there’s something called professionalism. Then there’s a remote control that’s available to the astronauts as well as Mission Control. Then there’s a trusted thing called redundancy. Even if everything fails and the elevator might break down catastrophically, there will be a ladder and a rope
Sounds like Stokes doing a little industrial espionage. Hiring people from these different companies and using their ideas. And it's kinda well not above board. Hope hes paying employees good for their information.
The aerospace industry is a tangle of people moving between companies. This is especially true of rocket companies. Employees have to sign Non-Disclosure-Agreements, which seem to be effective enough. I guess a certain amount of leakage is just considered to be normal. When it gets bad they sue - SpaceX and Blue Origin counter-sued each other over this quite a few years ago.
Hey, The Space Race! SpaceX is on the verge of being sacked by NASA because Starship is so hopelessly behind the Artemis schedule.
Artemis 3 has been scrubbed as a crewed landing because of this amateur company's inability to follow through with a plan that was wildly over-optimistic from the beginning.
Having to launch 1200 tonnes of propellant into LEO and transfer the whole lot to another vehicle just to get to the Moon with only 25 tonnes, NOT the 100 tonnes EM claims, is absurd.
The SpaceX/Starship plan REEKS of Apollo-style inefficiency.
SpaceX only got the lunar contract because Congress was stingy, again.
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Wow, that footage looks an awful lot like every other space commentator. How are you people not being striked for copyright infringement?
Likely using Storyblocks or similar.
i'm looking for a new spacex news channel, gave this one a try but it ain't it because you talk wayyyyy too slow for me.
The space program is going backwards
Man still watling Moon and Mars
but all its a FHoax
…… Hoax ?
With all the advances in robotics and artificial intelligence, it makes no sense to send humans on these missions.
Artificial Intelligence on Mars?
They, it, whatever, will decide: Earth to the earthlings, leave Mars to the intelligent Martians.
Earth missions?
Nope, what intelligent Martians do, given earthlings misbehavior, is not the earthlings' business.
Watch,
Russ Tedrake, under actuated robotics, MIT.
Starship is still a terrible idea to use for the first landings.
As if you know better than the engineers. 😂
Even if that's true it's the least terrible idea. It's affordable and can be built before 2030, which is the realistic timeline for the Blue Origin offering.
@@donjones4719Elon Space Karen time 2035 before they get there.
Lame!