The World's Largest Typical Whitetail KNOWN TO MAN??!
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- čas přidán 23. 07. 2021
- More than four decades ago, a Nebraska rancher stumbled onto the world's largest known pair of typical whitetail antlers known to man. And here’s the story
Throughout the early to mid 1900s, whitetail hunters and antler collectors frequently kept gigantic antlers and old, moth-eaten mounts in attics, basements and other dark of their home."As a result, many of these great racks would remain in obscurity for decades.
As stories of exceptional deer got out, a few pioneer antler collectors constantly chased down the rumors, driving all over the continent in search of great racks that had been lying in barns and closets for years. Such giants did exist, and through the efforts of these collectors, some the most iconic whitetails we know to today are from their endeavors.
That led Tim to the set of sheds that would become known as The General, the largest typical sheds of all time. Details of the transaction which caused those antlers to leave the farmhouse for the first time in 37 years are not known, but the gigantic buck would finally become known to serious whitetail nuts across the globe.
Now Let’s talk about the antlers:
The buck’s main beams are both over 32 inches and mass measurements are as high as 7-1/2. When mounted in a position that they look natural, they have an inside spread of nearly 24 inches. As it is, the buck scored 240 gross typical and nearly 219 net, more than five inches larger than the current Saskatchewan world record held by Milo Hanson. But the shrinking effects of a warm, dry Nebraska farmhouse have taken a large toll.
No one, of course, knows exactly how much, but many antler collectors have some estimates.
Antler collector Dick Idol said about the buck, “It’s hardly fair to compare such a rack to a recently harvested one kept indoors from the time of skinning for the short 60-day drying period and then officially measured for the record book.
Just in shrinkage alone, these Nebraska sheds could easily have lost as much as 6 to 8 inches in total measurement, especially in this type of rack, which still has 32-plus-inch main beams and a conservative inside spread of nearly 24 inches. Another 8 to 10 inches overall, which this buck conceivably lost, would have put him at 226 1/8 to 228 1/8 net, had the antlers been measured soon after being found back in 1959.”
Tim says he feels honored to have "discovered" the highest-scoring typical buck ever known to exist. And get this: The deer was wearing that set of antlers the year Tim was born. Was it fate?
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The best part is there’s a chance the general survived that winter and possibly would’ve scored higher the following year, obviously depending on how old he was the year he shed.
@Wang Chung Weather & health affects the blueprint of a buck. I have a buck on my property that is 11 & has double drops on the middle of the beam on both sides that get heavier as they go down. I have known of Tim Condict for 20 years now. He is one of the good ones. He has great advice & will do what it takes to achieve the objective. Ask him about crabgrass sometime. U won't believe his answer.
Assuming he was younger he most likely would’ve grown more abnormal tines thus dropping his score due to deductions. assuming he was older, he would’ve either hovered where he was at, or begin his decline. I think this rack, is him at his prime, but at the end of the day who knows
Yup until they measure it against Hanson’s deer then it suddenly shrinks like the Huff Buck!
This buck started the obsession for me. I was just a kid seen him in a magazine. At the time I didn't know deer could get this big. It started me down the road to seek out and kill 160+ inch deer in every state. He no longer is the biggest due to Hanson but by far he still is my favorite image.
He died from old age, or else we would have all known about it. That deer would be worth millions.
I still have the Dec 1996 copy of North American Whitetail magazine which features the story of this buck. It’s a shame this buck isn’t more well known. I never call it “General”. It’ll always be “The Nebraska Giant” to me.
So much emphasis put into inches, just enjoy the hunt brothers. In the end that’s what it’s all about.
most people killing these deer are hunting where there is a TON of big bucks on well managed private property. There really isn't a "hunt" they're really just trying to raise inches. 🤷♂️ climb up in a stand where you know you're gonna see several big deer isn't really hunting in my opinion
@@johnbracewell3700 it’s not. That’s why I mule deer and elk hunt. That’s a real chase
@@tylermorey7573 I hunt public land in south alabama. I used to hunt private land many years ago, and I'll tell ya a small 4 point public land buck is much more of a trophy to me than a big stud private land buck.
our public land is very thick it's hard to not disturb a spot 100 yards would be considered a pretty dang long shot
@@johnbracewell3700 same I lived in Oklahoma my whole life killed a bunch of pretty big whitetail on private land. Killed my first mule deer I Utah a couple years ago and never felt a rush like that from any of those 160 inch white tail
@@tylermorey7573 having to really work for it.
Having to really find where they live, not just hunting food plots makes it so much more exciting when everything finally comes together for sure
I am fascinated by big whitetail racks.
I have been rescuing them from obscurity for about a year now and have collected quite a few ranging from 160 to 224 inches being the highest officially scored. I just found a 164 inch offset shoulder mount that was acquired at an estate sale at a flea market.. it was literally mounted less than a year before by what was clearly a master taxidermist. It was just leaning against a pile of miscellaneous things. 100 bucks later it was in my truck. I remember staring at it thinking how happy the old fella was that he bagged it and shortly thereafter passed. His wife sold everything. At least it's not in a barn or over a bar in a smokey drinking house.
My love for them started while hunting southeastern Ohio where most mature bucks are titans.
This year I start learning taxidermy and antler replication as a hobby that maybe will turn into a full time gig.
Find a job you love and you'll never work another day in your life.
The most impressive rack I’ve ever seen in person! Hard to fathom how big this deer is until you see it!!!
Kind of like the fact that this deer was able to elude hunters. A true majestic monarch.
I've seen a replica of this amazing buck. He truly is a giant among giants.
How much meat was on it? That's all I care about.
@@jestes7 they were a set if she'd antler. They never saw anything of the buck again.
That is a incredible buck!!!!
At 2:53 I realized I took that picture of this buck in Cabela's back in 1999 not realizing anything about this deer until right now. I said to myself ''I have that picture" I know I do. Sure enough. 21 years later.
"The King" would've been a great name for that buck, that rack looks like a crown that only mother nature could bestow. And like they said, it's the largest whitetail known.
but the KING buck is already another buck that should beat themilo buck but boon and crocket as a company will not recognize it as the new world record even though many people have measured it and adds up to beating milo,,,,
@@acadian101it shouldn’t though. Especially if you actually know how to score a deer. Which 4 different sets of people who do, said it wasn’t typical. It was scored by 2 separate sets of Boone and Crockett graders and a set of Pope and Young guys. They all said the same thing.
You King nut riders need to get a clue
Imagine seeing that walking through the woods at you first day of season.
It would've become the first known cause of death by buck fever 😂
Awesome episode y’all. Also Tell Whitetail Legacy boys I want to do a dang podcast with them. 👊💪
Totally incredible!
It's wild what this deer may have looked like the following year!
"Hell, I thought I was dead too. Turns out I was just in Nebraska!"
I live in Kansas, though I've never seen anything like that but through the years I've seen massive antlers being sold at garage sales and just setting around at farms collecting dust. Dosnt surprise me at all they were just laying their in the farmers house not even giving it a second thought. A rancher I know told me about a big buck he seen and let the neighbor come over and shoot it. He said it was a good one, but only had 8 points. A couple years later I seen the mount and he was right it was only an 8 point but I belive the score sheet said 171 and change, I just chuckled when I remember the rancher telling me about it.
The General takes his place , what a commander he is!!!
I saw one like this 8 years ago in Indiana inside the fence at Big Oaks Wildlife Area. I saw him 4X while going to work in the evenings. First time in October second and third time in November and the last time in January, we're he only had one side on. Folks had pictures of him jumping the fence. He was a beast.
Them Indiana bucks baby slept on 💪🏻
@@randytravis5225 there's some monsters in there. I love hunting area 52 I usually see big bucks there. Area 3 too.
some day the Michigan giant will be recognized , ROMPOLA.
Not a chance!
In the late fifties my grandfather shot the Michigan state whitetail record buck, and his cousin shot the second place in that same year. They both appeared on Mort Neff's Michigan Outdoors program. I thought that was pretty cool. They were both hunting in the U.P.s Hiawatha National Forest near the St Ignace highway. The area I grew up hunting in until I was in my late teens (I'm 61).
Damn have any tips?
@@FHyde9977 Not sure why so many big bucks came out of that area, I don't think hunters go up there like they used to. No tips other than make sure you can shoot straight.
Back in the 80's....my girlfriend at the time took me to her grandma's farm in NE Neb.... right along the Missouri river. Her uncle farmed the land. He showed me a shed that he found while farming the land. The beam measured 32 7/8 and was a perfect 7 point side. It resembles the antlers on this buck. I asked if he would let me take it home to show my buddies....but he said no. I've never seen a shed like it since..... until now....looking at the Generals sheds.
Can't wait to get out into the woods this year!
Same here
Same here. Alot of my favorite memories are deer hunting with my Dad and brother. I'm definitely ready to hit the woods this year.
Awesome!!!
I was getting ready to type "someone was hunting that deer that year" and I stopped. Because back then they were real deer hunters. Todays deer hunters hunt trail cameras more than they do actual deer. That's what I told a buddy of mine. You are a trail camera hunter.
I'm sure if he was actually harvested, BC would've came up w a deduction that would make him just under the Hanson buck, there's been bucks that should've beaten it, but for some reason they seem to want to keep it #1
Phenomenal !!!
Curious that there was no conversation about the farmer, or anyone ever seeing the deer alive. I firmly believe that there are many giant ghost bucks running around that are rarely ever seen..if at all. Almost completely nocturnal....super smart ...At the time these were found , would have been a perfect scenario for such a giant to exist unnoticed by man...rural, low populated farm country, in not a very popular place to hunt whitetails...pretty awesome find!
Not true. Back when the first article started to circulate on this buck it was stated that this buck was seen by the landowner with two other bucks---and this one was the smallest of the 3...
@@Night-le9ys well u may be right about that, I wouldn't know because this is the only video or story that I've seen. And it was not mentioned here...
I've seen absolute monsters in Aberdeen MD-where alot of the largest plots of land are military installations that aren't huntable...they venture out into the surrounding areas and we get trail pics of them at night only. Like damned ghosts 👻😂 it sucks but gotta try for em
@@Night-le9ys That's crazy! Smallest of the 3!?
Due to hunting. Not many bucks get to show this kind of potential because there dead by the age of 2-5 years old.
Unreal. I can't imagine a buck of that magnitude walking within shooting range, especially bow range. Talk about intense!
Absolutely Fanfreakintastic, what a monster,I live just south of the Golden triangle in IL, and I’ve hunted there,and even in the area around where I live the bucks get big because of all the corn and other crops and basically flat land, I lived in KY for a number of years and the lack of massive crops was evident in the size of the deer, wasn’t that there weren’t any just they were smaller
I live in Iowa, and when I visit my sister in North Carolina, I thought the deer there were fawns, until I was told otherwise.
I live in the Golden triangle and that catchy name was just a good marketing scheme. Our deer aren't any better than any other county in Illinois. That marketing scheme ruined hunting for locals like me that have no where to hunt.
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I've been hunting southwest Ne. For twenty years. I have more than a dozen with 18 to 22 inch spreads. Eight to thirteen points.
Also several large mule deer.
The deer are very large bodied also.
Last November's was a 9 point with 22 in spread and nearly 300 lbs. I have it European mounted. It hangs on the wall next to a12 point, 18 in. Spread. It's skull is nearly 2 in. Longer and an inch wider than the 12 pointer.
Awesome
There's no tragedy here. I'm glad he lived a long life and spread those genetics all over that country. What a tremendous representative of the species. Unparalleled. 👏
Years ago I had some family who lived in this house where all the beds were in one room and a kitchen in a separate room. The room with the beds doubled as the living room. The walls were covered with giant mule deer mounts. Some were so old and moth eaten they almost looked like European mounts. They kept the largest of the good mounts and burned the others. Would have to say most were over 200. The good one the family kept was actually a nice smaller set around the 190 mark. I am near sixty and that was a while ago. There were some Daddies there. My father has a set that scored 244 giant chocolate rack. This other old timer had three monsters on his wall. One was the same size as my Pops. Yes I do believe someone out there has a true monster no one has seen before. I should post my Dads Rack. My cousins, they got rid of so many huge ones. Had to have gotten them back in between the 1920's to the 1940's. Maybe not the best taxidermy job? Was creepy in that house. That house was torn down a couple years later and they said there was like two tons of bat guano in the attic. How it never caved in I have no clue. And it could not have been healthy. In fact I doubt any of those people ever showed the mounts they have. People will leave some up in the rafters of their garage. Their wives won't let it in their house and gets forgotten. I had seen a few that were destroyed by rodents. And I do not believe any of those others were even scored. One good reason to have a man cave.
I have a buck mounted I killed here in NC, I've never scored a buck, just a small-town country boy who loves to hunt. But I named him freak-nasty & he's a 9 point with a 22 & 1/8 inside spread...
The shrinking that happens during the drying process occurs in the spread of the buck, due to the moisture in the skull drying. This makes the inside spread less. The fact these are sheds really has nothing to do with this particular case. Amazing deer none the less.
Amazing
Alot of Beautiful Deer .
The story is awesome, and this is an outstanding world class deer ! But is anyone else curious as to how they were able to take the sheds and place them on a mount and determine what there actual placement would be ?
33 inch matching beams he is the biggest Whitetail ever known to have walked the planet. That would make him the highest ranking Deer in any Masonic Lodge in North America.
Absolutely, yes I am. Very curious.
It’s a guess.
Wow!😱
Here in Michigan we have 30 point bucks. I've never seen one mind you but yoopers always talk about it, hell there's even a song about it. Good luck and shoot straight.
I am a child and I Love deer hunting
Looks like some common bases like the king buck
Did anyone ever harvest that deer? Or sheds only just woundering very cool video thank you God bless everyone.
As far as we all know no one has ever killed the buck and these was the only sheds ever found off the buck
Wow!
antlers dont shrink at all! shed antlers will never ever shrink no matter how old they are..assuming all that is bs...those sheds are what they are and will be exactly the same 1000 years from now...those antlers are awesome to see no matter what and luckily finds like these give hunters the privilege to at least see them on videos or magazines instead of never seeing them at all
I'm curious about what the body size of the deer would have been like.
Must have been a huge amount of meat and fat to support such a massive crown.
My dad was the original guy to set the antlers on a skull plant to be mounted and replicated and he knows the whole story behind it , And what it took to get the antlers off the rancher
I'm sure that's not all your dad mounted. You give off the brokeback mountain vibe.
@@chubbybeastfishing wtf 😳 a privk thing to say lmao. Made me laugh pretty hard because it was so out of the blue. Even spit out my coffee. Haha for the record though you shouldn't say shit like that. Especially about someone's parent. You're messed up man
$10,000 ?
Damnit, I thought that spike I killed was big
Mi 11
Probably most beautiful Buck
Can you imagine the deer that were never seen or found? I’m sure there was a buck bigger than this, odds are small but I’m sure it’s happened.
For me( old PA boy)..every deer is a trophy…God sure built some beauties…wow..
Thanks for posting this video!!! The general is the greatest typical ever!!!❤
Could have, never to be known. I saw, with my dad, the largest typical ever harvested at a Bass Pro Shop years ago, believe was shot in Canada. Not sure but the largest nontypical was found dead along a road in Missouri, over 300pts
That is the milo Hansen buck! It is the world record typical
I seen it also it was huge.
It’s a shame that the actual largest typical ever taken by a hunter isn’t recognized, but the road hunters is.
That’s the Missouri Monarch and he’s the WW non typical. Milo’s record will fall. It’s highly unlikely that the Monarch will though.
1. Commander in chief
2. The general
3. Kansas king
It's breathtaking, but can you imagine it if the left side was a mirror image of the right, instead of being visibly weaker?
Should of called him master chief😂
I would literally pass out if I seen a buck like him walk in
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This is DEFINITELY not the largest Whitetail "ever" in 1982-83 an individual from Texas ( Stephen) traveled to Saskatchewan to buy heads. He got SPECIFIC ORDERS from Canadian Parks & Wildlife on how to legal purchase and transport Whitetail heads out of Canada and into the US. Stephen ( no I'm not including his last name ) hunted down at least 5 heads larger than this one in the video, along with a number of non-typicals also larger than anything ever recorded. Exhausting all of his revenue he returned to the Canadian/US border and presented his heads and all paperwork previously requested from this EXACT border crossing by Canadian government personnel. A different Ranger ( a real piece of dogsh##, hope your reading this ) put the handcuffs on Stephen and began pounding up all the heads with the exception of maybe 3 while laughing at Stephen. Stephen was eventually released. Stephen returned to Texas to raise more capital and returned to Saskatchewan and purchased additional heads which he successfully crossed into the US and sold most to me. At the time 2 of these heads outscored anything in existence. You mentioned Dick, what a joke. Furthermore my Amish friends in Ohio and Pennsylvania have deer that DWARF anything grown outside of Amish pens and the Amish do not jack their deer on copper. Almost forgot , Stephen and his LOVELY wife had a mule deer head that dwarfed anything in Cabellos or Bass Pro, or the current world record or the largest known shet of sheds and refused to sell it to me at any price. Live long and prosper my friends, there's a whole lot of BS in the hunting world, and then there's the truth.
Amen!! 98% (or more) of the deer you see harvested every year online are from high fence game farms or just flat-out photoshopped and never even existed. If you think fisherman tell lies, try deer hunters once. I swear to God almost nobody can read a tape measure anymore because there is no way in Hell 95% of these racks are the scores the people (or morons) say they are online.
I call bullshit. Amish kill everything that moves. Do the same for fish. I grew up in Holmes county Ohio. They would never have a chance to get big near any Amish.
Bullshit story
I think you’re kind of full of IT.
Source: Trust me bro
I know big bucks when I see them ,killing 15 Mule deer from 180 - 202 “ but back in 1980 visiting my relatives friends in preecville sask ,old timer had some white tails hanging that were amazing ,just short distance from the Milo Hansen buck ,they just never mounted or ever scored them .👍I know they would of made B&C ,I’ve always wanted to revisit this old barn .
True warrior stud
Shame it’s the first time hearing about it. What a giant typical! Every hunters dream.
Best gobbie the farmer ever got.
Holy goddamn antlers
Imagine finding that things shed
what a ,,Beast,,
What part of Nebraska was this deer from?
How do antlers shrink? It’s basically bone. I’ve never seen bone shrink.
The skull shrinks, therefore the inside spread gets smaller
And; they grow back every year!!
whats even more impressive is that they found his head too 🤔
We just posted a story of a 210” giant non typical!
Whats been around keeps us Beaming.
The kansas king is a amazing typical as well
Can't beat the Hanson Buck hunted and taken in 1993 in Sk .
what a giant.... who knows what gigantic deer existed 100 years before he did
I saw two bigger last week
Look at the one that they have in Maine in a store.the point over 12
I can't tell you how many times I said "jesus christ" under my breath while looking at that mount. Everything about that rack and the posture of the head and neck declare "i'm the boss." Amazing.
What about the 333 inch that was found beside a fence in Missouri?
I live in the town about five miles away from where it was found.
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It is a great story but idk how sheds can hold a record the title is a bit misleading I thought I was a bit dumb and missed that someone killed a bigger deer than the Hanson buck
Why are your estimates on score different than north american whitetails?
I saw one once in my dreams
This buck lived but somehow the rampala buck isn't possible
Key phrase for Nebraska, few outfitters! Outfitters totally ruin an area!!
Long live the Mythical Stag
Looks like the huff buck.
Not to mention the buck shed those antlers
Some of those antlers don't even seem real. It blows my mind how big some of those deer are on the wall. I can't believe the deer could carry those things around on his head!
Amazing what can happen when bucks are allowed to mature. Unfortunately most never see their third birthday.
What's it like hunting on a deer farm like going to a butcher shop I guess
Things are lots different in this day and time. It’s almost like picking a pair of shoes. It’s big business now days and lots are filling their pockets off so called hunting just so you can have something hanging on the wall. May as well send out a magazine and just order your deer and have ups deliver packaged meat and a mount for the wall.
I found a spike buck who scored 180
My son shot a Boone and crocket 4 pointer last year! Ya 2 on each side !
I’ll take one please
I have a typical set of sheds that will score 221, what if I put them on a mount, can I claim this crown?
Yes but I highly sought you have that
Hey my father does antler reproductions if you truly have a set like that we would be interested in it. Let me know and I'll shoot you and email address to possible sends pictures of the antlers
I just want to see the sheds whether you claim the title or not! 😂
Why is he not the world record? Hanson buck is bigger or smaller? Thank you for clarification
The antlers shown here are just shed antlers. The buck was not taken by a hunter
That buck is not from Nebraska, maybe picked up there but definitely the buck my grandpa shot that was stolen in the early 50's, along with the 10 pointer with a 27.5" inside spread the year after. Both shot in Forest Co, WI, stolen in Brown Co, WI.
Oh really
Hahahahaha good story.
I live where it was found.
They're clearly sheds you fool
I wanna hear the story of the knife handle buck.
Second lol love these videos
nebraska has some big bucks
240 killed in Iowa few yrs back . No high fences I believe