The Hopeless Horsemen - X-Men: Apocalypse
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- čas přidán 14. 06. 2018
- X-Men Apocalypse was...something. It had some fun moments, but most X-Fans agree that it wasn't a great representation of the characters and an especially poor representation of one of the great X-Men villains, Apocalypse.
So I want to look at whether making one small change to Apocalypse's generals, The Four Horsemen, could fix some of the issues with the plot and make a much more engaging film.
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“If I would make one small change”
Proceeds to overhaul entire movie
A Humble Hero it needs it
LucIsz Moore in some ways, some other things it had worked
Micheal Mah'moud such as?
LucIsz Moore I feel like Apocalypse was alright but it could have been a better fresh start for a New X-Men universe as well as an conclusion for The Fox-Men universe than what we got, but the ideas that worked:
Mutants being more public for an early start seeing mutants accepted (like a Dazzler album or people enjoying Nightcrawler dancing or talking about Mystique saving the president ), but mutants still persecuted in more subtle ways(Nightcrawler and Angel in a mutant fight club being tortured and forced to fight) similar to what is shown in comics like Grant Morrison New X-Men or Mark Millar's Ultimate X-Men
Magneto in hiding, with a family similar to his comic origin (I would have changed his name under hiding to Max or Magnus) before brainwashed by Apocalypse
Delving into the origin of mutants through Apocalypse and connecting it to the origin of the X-Men (plus a more comic accurate Weapon X)
Apocalypse could have been the philosophical cult leader and the Horsemen representing different cult fractions/ideas but also a visual threat and connecting his origin to aliens which was a plot point heavily hunted at in early interviews(in the same vein as Infinity Wars Thanos, Loki, Ego, and X2 and DOFP Magneto/William Stryker/Bolivar Trask) instead of the dull villain who although did a lot felt like he did nothing.
Developing the new mutants like Cyclops, Jean, Storm, Nightcrawler and Jubilee while giving them the colorful costumes and in a way serving as a conclusion for The First Class cast and the previous 6 X-Men films but opening up a more comic accurate film universe
New looks at mutants power sets (seeing Nightcrawler teleporting in his field, looking at Cyclops pov while he is using optic blast, Professor X and Jean fighting Apocalypse on the Astral plane, Jubilee using her fire bolts, Jean helping Cyclops control his optoc blasts as he fight Storm, Magneto getting more comic abilities, Storm riding her lighting bolts)
The idea that the X-Men are starting in unfamiliar settings/personalities (Cyclops as a teenage loner and outsider instead of the team leader and boyscout, Storm as a theif and misfit instead of the goddess and confident leader, Jean Grey as guarded and alone instead of what the X-Men movies and 90's cartoon popularized her as or even what Evolution showe, Nightcrawler as the Evolution) similar to Age of Apocalypse so we can see them grow into the iconic X-Men from the comics/cartoons/first 3 movies (I would have loved to see Cyclops call the young X-Men the team of "teenage mutant fuck-ups" instead of wasting it on Magneto saying "who the fuck are you")
But those ideas were underdeveloped and didn't get room to grow with interesting character development of characters who weren't Magneto, Mystique or Professor X (we lost scenes of Cyclops, Jean, Nightcrawler and Jubilee at the mall, Storm explaining her origin to Professor X not only showing why she is with Apocalypse buy it serves as a callback to a scene between her and Nightcrawler in X2 saying hate helps her survive, Cyclops/Alex brother moment and a better opening act to the movie we got with an unnecessary Quicksilver and debatable Wolverine scene)
Micheal Mah'moud
I agree, and I can understand why they didn’t give so much time to the new X-Men, this story is about the old timers and they’re much better characters. I gotta say, the butchering of their characters along with some pretty bad casting really ruined these new X-Men, it surprises me how they actually managed to make a version worse than the previous one.
"Where can I find powerful mutants?"
"You wouldn't believe it, but most of them live together in this mansion in upstate New York."
Why did this make me laugh so hard 😂
Apocalypse : what happened to old York ?
Magneto : You guys are having Old York?
Someone give this guy a marvel movie to write
Sounds good
Squirrel Girl is all his
Daantje Banaantje He just did. He just published a video pitching to Feige a sequel to Ant-man and the Wasp.
@@ws.hicks14 I hope he gets to do that one. Though technically were spoiled but whatever
Or let him proof read the scripts before filming lol
"-he's wearing nothing but a speedo"
I'm sold.
C:Oh magneto when will you learn
E:You got me this time Charles, I hadn't even killed 30,000 people yet.
C:Maybe next time old friend
Laughter, pan up to sunrise
Xavier did kill hundreds of people when he blew up two submarines.
Why are CZcams video producers better writers than Hollywood writers?
And Xavier in the comics forgives Magneto who in the storyline Fatal Attractions killed lots people when he send an EMP around the planet. Xavier is meant to be a forgiving dude. It’s his character and you saw that in DOFP.
nice, but still Charles can see and live Magneto's memories and everyone elses. So why couldn't he see the Good in Magneto the audience never can.
@@joshuagrey7903 Actually this is addressed in the comics many many times, in Alternate Universes Charles simply changes the way everyone on earth percieves mutants. He simply makes everyone feel ok with mutants, he removes their fear...I think that's part of how that guy in the Phantom Zone gets so much power...what is that guys name? He kidnaps Charles and is super powerful because Charles accidentally funnelled all the fear into the Phantom Zone. Remember that one??
The part where Cyclops comes up with nicknames except Jean is GENIUS wow
ANGEL AND DEVIL dude how are you coming up with this?
I got mind-blown by that part too!
Jeanius
I don't understand why it's that genius.
Can you please explain?
Because jocks/footballers give each other nicknames. Because that's Cyclop's new origin it gives reason to people getting names. The Flash did it, First Class did it. And X-Men 1 joked about it (starring Patrick Stewart as 'Wheels').
"I can make fireworks come out of my hands." That might be what Jubilee (especially that young) thinks her power is, but man... talk about underselling it. She can ignite bits of the universe with plasma explosions. That's what she's doing. She's destroying reality in tiny little pieces. Imagine what she could do if she, you know, practiced instead of hanging out at the mall all the time.
The damage that she could do as an antagonist (especially in the current MCU) with her powers...
Other characters have seen their powers grow. It would be nice if characters like Jubilee did too.
Or make her a vampire mom. That's another option.
@@brookemiller4355 Wanda has a mental breakdown for the 100th time and erases her accidentally.
@@MattAndImprov I don't mind the mom part because found family was always a major theme with Jubilee. The vampire part, not so much.
*Quick Silver is now slower because he grew up.*
Maybe his power is ADHD?
Could at least have had him slow down from an injured tendon or something
I chuckled when he said that but I agree with the sentiment . Quiksilver's speed is waaaay to OP and I wouldnt care if they retconned it to be slower with an excuse as dubious as "he grew older"
It would make him relatable but then fun to watch.
Bet you didn't see that coming
So basically change 90% of the movie, which I’m totally okay with.
Perfection. 10s across the board...the Evolution elements would've been welcomed in this movie. Cyclops not giving Jean a codename is legit the best thing over.
bitca222 Evolution was super underrated.
I don't understand why they cancelled it so soon
Evolution left off at a decent enough spot though. yeah the final arc was rushed, but ultimately every big character beat that was set up earlier were addressed and dealt with by the end. While the show easily could have led into certain other aspects of the Xmen world, Like space travel or time travel shenanigans, the show left on a pretty satisfying note all things considered.
I just love how youtube "amateurs" write better stories and plots that "professional" Hollywood writers. Probably because you guys understand the source material and are actual fans trying to create a compelling adventure rather than a product.
Also everything is easier in hindsight. It's infinitely easier to improve a draft than start from scratch
@@kirkheisterkamp6988 It's also way easier to write in a vacuum without having to work around the desires of the producers and the executives and all the other people who need to sign off on the story. And then cross your fingers that the director doesn't make any changes or there isn't some mandate from above to change things or that nothing goes wrong in filming that would require retooling the script.
@@nathanl8622Yup. For example, there might have been some in Fassbender or Lawrence's contract that prevented their characters from being sidelined. Or the execs may have figured, "We're paying these guys millions, you bet they're getting big subplots because market research shows these actors are popular"
Dude, you're a genius. Marvel should hire you to reboot the X-Men.
X-Men: Evolution had a great Apocalypse arc so it's perfect inspiration. You did a great job fixing the issues in this movie.
queendsheena1 I LOVEDDD X MEN EVOLUTION! OMG THE WHOLE SERIES WAS AMAZING!
This movie already totally ripped off evolution. Blue apocalypse, nightcrawer and other xmen being teenagers, storm and magneto being horsemen despite the fact that they aren't really a horsemen anywhere else, etc
storm was a Horseman in the comic marvel.com/universe/Storm_(Age_of_Apocalypse)
Agreed, this was one of my favourite tv shows!
Wile I liked that design better than another Apocalypse look, I still think his arc in the 90s cartoon was better. plus he had some of the most memorable lines and delivery.
"I am as far beyond mutants as they are beyond you"
Okay ... now I understand why fans were disappointed.
This would have been a far more satisfying and interesting story. There is a lot more at stake, the drama and conflict of the old versus new mutants is brilliant, the non-mutants directly impact the story in a positive way for a change and the idea for Scott makes him so much more likeable and gives opportunities for the group dynamic to form naturally and personalities to form.
I'm going to have to find this X-Men Evolution at some point to see the inspiration.
Dude, X-Men Evolution is a-mazing
Yeah it's great. It does a great job of taking it's time introducing characters, so you feel far more connected to them. And the animation is just great.
Nando v Movies and Wolverine and the xmen is how they should've done Phoenix saga.
It's pretty good. But the 4 part apocalypse ending is quite epic.
@@stewarthowell6781 "Epic" is exactly how I would describe it. My dad and brothers had seen every episode of both the 90s cartoon and Evolution up until that point and when that finale came out it was basically *the* family event.
Jubilee’s mutant ability is to make EXPLOSIONS, not fireworks. She was only dumbing down her powers on the arcade machine. Her creating little sparks wasn’t the full extent of her powers.
(You may argue that fireworks ARE explosions but no, explosions do damage while fireworks are a sort of light show)
Fireworks are pretty damaging too buddy.
Also, yes her power is to make explosions, but they don’t come out like average explosions, they colorful and sparky and look a lot like fireworks, which is why she’s usually classified as “I make fireworks”
Shan Yu from Mulan.
I had a Roman candle blow up in my hand. Trust me, they do damage.
@@omarkarim2280 It's why they're illegal in some places. She fires shiny bombs.
She actually creates pyrotechnic plasmoids from her hands which she can control and denonate with her mind buts basically she can blow things up with her mind
"You know what happens to a frog when it gets struck by lightning?" The same thing that happens to any Fox controlled Marvel IP😭😭😭😭😭
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Damn man, I need this Apocalypse movie!
Apocalypse is also one of my favourite villains and it was so sad to see how bad they handled him.
Also X-Men Evolution was amazing!
GIRfan24 I feel like Fox never knows how to handle and X-men movie. I had the exact same thought about how they defeated the baddest mutant in all history and now they’ll fight Toad and friends 🤣
Kinda random but from one transformers fan to another, nice avatar ;)
I feel like it sounds like a kid designed this movie, there's no proper story (not like x men apocalypse had any anyway) and it just feels like it's all centred around action and nothing else
I rewatched the Juggernaut episode of Xmen Evolution recently. Probably one of the best translations of a character from a comic book ever. He basically just walked through every obstacle in his way, and it took every Xman and Evil Mutant together to beat him.
My favorite episode. Survival of the Fittest.
The episode where he comes back and the Xmen beat him alone was also a really good showing of how much they've improved over the series.
Juggernaut handling of the X-Men in the episode was one of my favorite takes of the character
The Stuff of Heroes
I never liked X-Men evolution as a whole. But it did have it's moments.
Can you imagine trying to get dressed with wings like angel? Like pants no problem but Itd be impossible to wear normal clothes and they’d always be destroyed if they were specially made
Prince Luci body paint, problem solved 😏
Well if you were a woman you could wear dresses with straps that you can open and close around the wings.
Wow...that was really great. I had all but forgotten about this movie, but your version sounds pretty damned entertaining. Will be diving into your channel :)
Thanks! Let me know what you think of other videos.
Will do! ^^
Same
This was a longer one, but it was really great. Honestly, you pick apart these films better than most.
Can you please make a video on how you would introduce the Mutants into the MCU?
Camilo Torres the Xtreme-Genome
I've seen videos from several other channels on how they'd do it. I'd love to hear Nando's ideas.
Disney isn’t getting fox so that isn’t happening
Magneto Metal Bender Wait, has it been cancelled? I knew that some other company offered more money to Fox, but has it been finalized yet? If it hasn’t yet, we still don’t know, and I’d like to keep my hopes up.
source please?
If it's this easy (or unprofessional) to rewrite a story of a comic book movie, than we are there still so many not good to outright bad films? I'm surprised no one has paid you to write anyone's screenplay yet. I'm not being sarcastic. I'm just so frustrated with hollywood screenwriters today; if it's their passion, then why do their products seem impassionate. Take this movie. I'm pretty sure many of the people who worked on this film were thinking what a crap script it had. I'm positive there were fans of the comics and and the animated series that helped work on this. I'm also sure that there were actual good writers on this film. Why is it that the final product was crap? The entire crew couldn't have been to blame. One group member's mistake will affect the rest of the group. But that member should be punished or at least get a demerit. It still amazes me how movies today can still be bad or below standard.
It's kinda easier to do this kind of Monday morning quarterbacking than it is to actually deal with the whole complicated system of producers and executives and agents other higher ups that all have their differing interests and demands, especially when you're dealing with big blockbuster money like these.
So it was probably demanded that Wolverine pop up somewhere, and that a big name star like Jennifer Lawrence has to have X amount of screen time, and these certain action set pieces have to be here so figure out a way to get us there, for example oh wow the Quicksilver scene was a big hit last time so let's do it again.
With a billion different moving parts and a billion different studio notes wanting this and that and that and this from you, it's a miracle that ANY of these movies are good, tbh.
If you’ve ever had a catastrophic group project full of egos, you’d understand a fraction of why blockbusters go wrong.
Plus, it's very easy to outline a good story, but actually writing it is much, much harder. Think of all the terrible movies you've seen that have amazing sounding premises.
I'd say for a couple of reasons, first it's way easier to critique an already existing film than it is to just write a movie wholecloth (yeah it's made from comic releases but the rules of the medium are way different) and secondly this video isn't a screenplay, it's a pitch. I'm not saying that Nando doesn't have the ability to write this into a screenplay, but a good pitch ain't enough to make a good movie. There are many more aspects to film.
I’d also like to say that it could also be because of hindsight. It’s an alternative, arguably better, version of a film that we have already received.
Not to discredit Nando, but it’s much easier to change what we have than it is to create something brand new.
Cyclops being a QB is what I've been saying for ages, he needs to a leader which QBs are but also a straight A student. But also have him getting into fights and late for school to add depth to his character
Everything Fox has built will fall! And from the ashes of their X-men universe, Marvel studios will build a better one!
Fingers crossed!
Nando v Movies it's every MCU fan's dream
Hate to be a party pooper, but it's looking like comcast is gonna outbid disney for fox... so be prepared for more mediocre x-men films for nando to fix!
dasco597 I dunno... I kinda like having the universes separate. And I don’t like the thought of Disney owning every intellectual property in the world.
fair points actually! although I'd prefer if Disney had it because comcast have a history of shady business practices and have a general reputation for being a scummy company :(
I haven't even seen Apocalypse, so I'm just going to pretend the events explained in this video are now canon.
Magneto: *commits genocide* Charles: Oh you! ;)
Everything you line up on in this video just proves that fox does not know how to use the X-Men characters right my only wish is that when the MCU gets ahold of them they can do a much better job
Jay 2.0 My take on what the MCU could've been
Loki's story is long & rich with dastardly deeds that could have set him up to be the ultimate villain overall instead of Thanos. Imagine the whole setup going from The Guardian armor in Thor 1, every movie (1:War Machine *NEVER* makes an appearance during the ENTIRE 1st series of these movies, but Rhodes is introduced in IM2. 2:Civil War never occurs because Ultron's storyline isn't wasted on something so dumb, AoU ends totally differently, he beats their ass & he gets away) after that happens the same with a slight rewrite to reflect on Loki's misdeeds or deal with whatever consequences happened in their stories from his latest acts, Planet Hulk story wouldn't have been wasted which makes everyone happy. Thor 3 could've had a different subtitle & the main concern could've been Loki releasing the world eating serpent on Midgar. The latest Movie would've been taking the fight to Loki's realm vs. the armies he's been building & THEN it could be called Avengers: Ragnorok.Thor has Heimdall teleport the team away before his final clash with Loki & Asgard's fate is uncertain.
Steve & Tony, quit as active members except Tony doesn't tell anyone not even the movie audience, from now on they will make cameos as guidance for the new members, Bucky becomes Cap & everytime Tony cameos in any movie IM has to be providing assistance in whatever battle that character is in, he still talks & jokes mid battle but we never get a HUD on screen.
Using this method they could've STILL been setting up Infinity War by only showing *3* stones before this Finale,those are the: the Tesseract, which would remain in the cube until the same reveal MUCH later on, the Mind stone & the Power stone left with the Nova Corps. The next 3 are collected in the second series of movies. Ultron makes his mid series boss appearance looking more like his traditional self beats their ass again. In the climax he and IM are the last 2 standing in final 3 minutes of film when IM is defeated Ultron flies him over to the laid out Avengers as they get to their feet & says "Looks like Santa left you guys a present. " Slams IM to the ground "Here let me help you unwrap it!" Rips the armour off the arm revealing black skin underneath, in a HUD screen Rhodes groggily says "Well I guess it's time for the gloves to come off." Cut to Tony sitting at home saying aloud "Well I think you 2 already had your duel, unless you think you can think of a better way to lose this time." I M staggers to feet & watches Ultron flying away, he turns around and finds the team staring at him. Close up of IM helmet, close up Bucky face wide pan of the face off between IM & team. Smash to black screen. Ant Man 3 happens & Ghost becomes Goliath II. Quiksilver finally heals from his wounds, goes through PT and returns.
IM has 1 movie & it leads directly into A:IW.They meet Ultron again during Avengers:IW & it's Avengers vs Ultron vs Thanos. Steve,Tony & Thor returns for these 2 movies + a third in the next series. Everyone loses to Thanos, Ultron escapes again & we're see him place himself somewhere secluded & goes into Stand By, saying "The Avengers when no longer be a problem when I awaken."
Series 3 of the movies starts off with Civil War, because now Spider-Man is of proper age and has the experiences of having a real life before he unmasks himself & there should be more than enough heroes & villains for it to be done correct especially if Marvel has the rights back to X-Men & FF. Civil War is the last action paced movies for Steve & Tony, it will take 2 of them. Hulk kills Goliath II willingly, after being told by Tony to stand down(he's on the Registration team) Steve goes to jail, Tony retires from action. At the end of the 2nd movie Hulk doesn't revert back to Banner takes the Quinjet & leaves but he *DOESN'T* leave the planet. He lives in self exile. All the next solo movies B plot is looking for the Hulk & there's only 1 solo movie apiece,no trilogies, but there are 6 movies 2 of them are duo 1 has to be Scarlet Witch & Vison, Tony & IM get taken together. This is because Kang shows up and teleports them away at the mid credit scene. The next Avenger movie starts off with everyone attacking Kang, he puts them in stasis , explains they're on Future Earth, informs them Ultron has awakened & currently taking over everything & no matter how many times he goes into a different timeline he can't defeat him nor can he find him while he's in Standby. They fight Ultron with Kang & barely lose. Someone remarks that maybe if they'd found Hulk before being kidnapped, he could've helped. Kang says he knows Hulk's location but hasn't sought his help except once because he's crazy. Hulk is old & he doesn't agree to help once he recognizes them. They challenge Ultron again Cap II dies,Hulk shows up & defeats him. Then he turns crazy, attacks Vision thinking he's Ultron, defeats the team, destroys Vision & leaves. Wanda pleads with Kang to go back right before the battle & he explains to her no matter what Vision is still dead in a timeline so he takes everyone back 1 second after they left. They find & capture Hulk, imprison him, hold him accountable for Goliath II death. Tony brings the Illuminati together explains what happens about the future & since he just killed Goliath II they exile him from the planet.
Falcon takes lead role. Wanda goes crazy from grief throughout other characters movies, makes an appearance in an X-Men movie intervening in a battle between X-Men C team and some villains. Kills the villains, X-Men attempt to take her into custody, she snaps & kills them too. Planet Hulk movie happens then Avengers (Falcon becomes Cap III) & X-Men both have a House of M movie then AvX movies. At the conclusion Hulk & his team show up.
World War Hulk ends only because Meep's betrayal is revealed & he goes into exile on Earth again. A few solo movies, by the third NASA announces there is a comet headed for the planet, fourth at the end reveals it's Terrax the Untamed. F4:Herald is the next movie & they defeat him. A:Galactus they lose but a regular person sacrifices himself to leave with Galactus. In mid credit the news reveals it's Norrin Radd & as they say his name we see him surfing through space.
Old Man Logan happens, with the Hulk's children this time. Hulk is acknowledged to be alive but no one looks for him.
The next movie opens with Hulk killing Vision in the future, when Kang returns he kills him also. When news travels that Ultron is dead the remaining new heroes come out from hiding only to now find out Hulk has made himself the new planet dictator and he goes by Maestro now. He kills a lot of the new heroes, they send a distress message to the only hero of legend who may still be around. Rune King Thor shows up &demolishes Maestro. Thor says something like "our story has come to an end old friend... brother. Nothing like I would have thought. I'm sorry." A clip plays that shows what happened after the team left Asgard, he fights Loki until Loki finally drops his guard at the wrong moment Thor immobilizes him, tells him he's doing this for the greater good of all the Realms & he kills Loki. He drops his hammer at the spot of Hulk's death, a makeshift tombstone. He calls for the Bifrost to take him home. A montage of clips from all the movies play during the credits. The end.
Sounds way to messy.
@@RtistiqSkubie nah, too messy, thanos was a better overall villain than loki anyway.
This seems like less of a small change and more like a really big one. Still great as always though
well he adressed in the start that this was a change to basically the whole movie doe :p
Small change, sweeping implication.
☝️☝️☝️ this guy. One change makes a VERY big difference
I'm a fan of the X-Men movies, but Apokalypse was plain terrible.
edit: Magneto's arc would have made SO much sense if his change of heart at the end was because Pietro tells him that he is his son, so Eric realices he is not alone, he still has family...hell, the scene when Apocalypse breaks his leg was the PERFECT chance to have him screaming "DAD!" which would make Eric snap and betray Apocalypse.
Lol
Sounds alot like a "Martha!" moment
But Magneto is not like "Hey, I'm a dad too. I gotta save this kid" he would be like "Oh shit, that's my damn son!". Much different from "Martha!"
Zeus Odinson
But if he doesn’t know that Quicksilver is his son, how would he get to the conclusion he has to save him as his duty as a father?
It's because fox
The whole quicksilver being Magneto's son just doesn't work because Evan Peters is like 6 yrs younger than Fassbender
What if apocalypse selects fantastic four as his four horsemen
Just think that
Invisible Woman would be Death (she's the strongest, and can strike people down without them even knowing what's happening), and Human Torch War (because fire)...The Thing and Mr. Fantastic don't exactly work as Famine or Pestilence. Maybe if Reed designed some sort of disease that would spread by contact with his super-stretchy skin...
Curt Clark yeah
I think Human Torch would be more suitable as Famine because he can scorch the Earth and The Thing can be War.
@@jichuulimario2093 Or Sue's Conquest (the sin people confuse with pestilence) because she can manipulate minds, Johnny is still Famine, Reed is war because of his strategic mind, and Ben is death because of his aggression and destruction.
Thats a fun hook for a crossover.
I'd assume the movie interpretation of apocalypse would imply that the consciousness swapping ability is his main, original ability as that's what let him live so long, and accumulate more powers.
This video is the best x man movie
Haha, it's funny because it's true.
Up there with Logan
Except he snubbed Logan, and didn't actually use the Weapon X idea.
I hope the studios listen to this and make it. Now that would be a miracle.
They also should have had Quicksilver tell Magneto that he's his son
Yeah it's weird that they both keep it a secret and it's a big dramatic moment in this movie but in Days of Future Past, it was a little joke.
Nando v Movies Quicksilver never did much in either movie
Yeah. He's way too fast. Kind of like how Professor X can solve all the problems so the movies has to sideline him. I think if they toned Quicksilver down, he would work really well with the team.
Nando v Movies Like Quicksilver is awesome just underused and not important
+Nando v Movies thats why the avengers quicksilver works well he isn't to overpowered
I would gofundme this version. Like, top tier donation. Well done! 👍🏾
Wow. This is pure gold. Amazing job!! That final fight would be 100% better with those well thought out notes.
That show made Nightcrawler my favorite X-man
💙same
Same
Same
@@ashstar6714 hes always been my favorite x men
Nando, why don't you work for Marvel in the story-writing department?? You would change everything for the better!
As long as he doesn't keep snubbing Logan, and uses weapon X, like he should. Otherwise I'm out.
I AGREE
There are really Comic writers and there is a lot of them..what we need is great film writers for comic book movies.
He needs a job on the DCEU, MCU is fine but he could really turn things around for DC
it's really easy to fix movies after they have come out lol hindsight is 20/20 ;)
Now I want to watch THIS movie :(
Seeing the clips from the movie that you used for this critique, made me realize just how little of this movie I even remember, except for the mansion scene and the final fight
Now I’m pissed off that it didn’t happen like this
HOW MANY OF THESE DO YOU HAVE TO MAKE BEFORE YOU'RE HIRED AS A SCRIPT EDITOR
You basically fixed all my issues with this movie. I subscribed.
THIS IS A BETTER PLOT AND I FAVOR YOUR OWN VERSION.
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"Make clothing" - The most important mutant mutant power ever!
Makeovers!
he nicked it from Piccolo
@@android19willpwn I forgot he could do that.
@@android19willpwn Clothes beam!
Someone hire this man already!
GREEN SPARK My take on what the MCU could've been
Loki's story is long & rich with dastardly deeds that could have set him up to be the ultimate villain overall instead of Thanos. Imagine the whole setup going from The Guardian armor in Thor 1, every movie (1:War Machine *NEVER* makes an appearance during the ENTIRE 1st series of these movies, but Rhodes is introduced in IM2. 2:Civil War never occurs because Ultron's storyline isn't wasted on something so dumb, AoU ends totally differently, he beats their ass & he gets away) after that happens the same with a slight rewrite to reflect on Loki's misdeeds or deal with whatever consequences happened in their stories from his latest acts, Planet Hulk story wouldn't have been wasted which makes everyone happy. Thor 3 could've had a different subtitle & the main concern could've been Loki releasing the world eating serpent on Midgar. The latest Movie would've been taking the fight to Loki's realm vs. the armies he's been building & THEN it could be called Avengers: Ragnorok.Thor has Heimdall teleport the team away before his final clash with Loki & Asgard's fate is uncertain.
Steve & Tony, quit as active members except Tony doesn't tell anyone not even the movie audience, from now on they will make cameos as guidance for the new members, Bucky becomes Cap & everytime Tony cameos in any movie IM has to be providing assistance in whatever battle that character is in, he still talks & jokes mid battle but we never get a HUD on screen.
Using this method they could've STILL been setting up Infinity War by only showing *3* stones before this Finale,those are the: the Tesseract, which would remain in the cube until the same reveal MUCH later on, the Mind stone & the Power stone left with the Nova Corps. The next 3 are collected in the second series of movies. Ultron makes his mid series boss appearance looking more like his traditional self beats their ass again. In the climax he and IM are the last 2 standing in final 3 minutes of film when IM is defeated Ultron flies him over to the laid out Avengers as they get to their feet & says "Looks like Santa left you guys a present. " Slams IM to the ground "Here let me help you unwrap it!" Rips the armour off the arm revealing black skin underneath, in a HUD screen Rhodes groggily says "Well I guess it's time for the gloves to come off." Cut to Tony sitting at home saying aloud "Well I think you 2 already had your duel, unless you think you can think of a better way to lose this time." I M staggers to feet & watches Ultron flying away, he turns around and finds the team staring at him. Close up of IM helmet, close up Bucky face wide pan of the face off between IM & team. Smash to black screen. Ant Man 3 happens & Ghost becomes Goliath II. Quiksilver finally heals from his wounds, goes through PT and returns.
IM has 1 movie & it leads directly into A:IW.They meet Ultron again during Avengers:IW & it's Avengers vs Ultron vs Thanos. Steve,Tony & Thor returns for these 2 movies + a third in the next series. Everyone loses to Thanos, Ultron escapes again & we're see him place himself somewhere secluded & goes into Stand By, saying "The Avengers when no longer be a problem when I awaken."
Series 3 of the movies starts off with Civil War, because now Spider-Man is of proper age and has the experiences of having a real life before he unmasks himself & there should be more than enough heroes & villains for it to be done correct especially if Marvel has the rights back to X-Men & FF. Civil War is the last action paced movies for Steve & Tony, it will take 2 of them. Hulk kills Goliath II willingly, after being told by Tony to stand down(he's on the Registration team) Steve goes to jail, Tony retires from action. At the end of the 2nd movie Hulk doesn't revert back to Banner takes the Quinjet & leaves but he *DOESN'T* leave the planet. He lives in self exile. All the next solo movies B plot is looking for the Hulk & there's only 1 solo movie apiece,no trilogies, but there are 6 movies 2 of them are duo 1 has to be Scarlet Witch & Vison, Tony & IM get taken together. This is because Kang shows up and teleports them away at the mid credit scene. The next Avenger movie starts off with everyone attacking Kang, he puts them in stasis , explains they're on Future Earth, informs them Ultron has awakened & currently taking over everything & no matter how many times he goes into a different timeline he can't defeat him nor can he find him while he's in Standby. They fight Ultron with Kang & barely lose. Someone remarks that maybe if they'd found Hulk before being kidnapped, he could've helped. Kang says he knows Hulk's location but hasn't sought his help except once because he's crazy. Hulk is old & he doesn't agree to help once he recognizes them. They challenge Ultron again Cap II dies,Hulk shows up & defeats him. Then he turns crazy, attacks Vision thinking he's Ultron, defeats the team, destroys Vision & leaves. Wanda pleads with Kang to go back right before the battle & he explains to her no matter what Vision is still dead in a timeline so he takes everyone back 1 second after they left. They find & capture Hulk, imprison him, hold him accountable for Goliath II death. Tony brings the Illuminati together explains what happens about the future & since he just killed Goliath II they exile him from the planet.
Falcon takes lead role. Wanda goes crazy from grief throughout other characters movies, makes an appearance in an X-Men movie intervening in a battle between X-Men C team and some villains. Kills the villains, X-Men attempt to take her into custody, she snaps & kills them too. Planet Hulk movie happens then Avengers (Falcon becomes Cap III) & X-Men both have a House of M movie then AvX movies. At the conclusion Hulk & his team show up.
World War Hulk ends only because Meep's betrayal is revealed & he goes into exile on Earth again. A few solo movies, by the third NASA announces there is a comet headed for the planet, fourth at the end reveals it's Terrax the Untamed. F4:Herald is the next movie & they defeat him. A:Galactus they lose but a regular person sacrifices himself to leave with Galactus. In mid credit the news reveals it's Norrin Radd & as they say his name we see him surfing through space.
Old Man Logan happens, with the Hulk's children this time. Hulk is acknowledged to be alive but no one looks for him.
The next movie opens with Hulk killing Vision in the future, when Kang returns he kills him also. When news travels that Ultron is dead the remaining new heroes come out from hiding only to now find out Hulk has made himself the new planet dictator and he goes by Maestro now. He kills a lot of the new heroes, they send a distress message to the only hero of legend who may still be around. Rune King Thor shows up &demolishes Maestro. Thor says something like "our story has come to an end old friend... brother. Nothing like I would have thought. I'm sorry." A clip plays that shows what happened after the team left Asgard, he fights Loki until Loki finally drops his guard at the wrong moment Thor immobilizes him, tells him he's doing this for the greater good of all the Realms & he kills Loki. He drops his hammer at the spot of Hulk's death, a makeshift tombstone. He calls for the Bifrost to take him home. A montage of clips from all the movies play during the credits. The end.
Grew up watching x-men evolution, changed and shaped my life. Loved that show soo much. My favorite of the x-men shows to this day. Which reminds me. Its totally time for a new animated x-men series. What are they waiting for?
Great idea, but honestly, I don't think there is ANYTHING that could have saved this trainwreck.
Agreed. It was effed up from the moment it was greenlighted.
When I see a Nando V Movies video on my notifications:
Dew it.
A surprise, to be sure, but a welcome one.
You are very smart and wise and I´m proud of you.
Inigo unexpected.... but not unwelcome
Live long and prosper.
Inigo wait a minute, how did this happen, were smarter than this
I cannot TELL YOU how happy i am to hear you say "let's pretend Days of Future Past didn't happen."
Like almost all problems i have with Xmen: Apocalypse , is cause it's slave to keeping continuity with DOFP
Something to make the Cyke/Havok fight interesting is that, in the comics, they are unaffected by each other's powers. This would allow Cyclops to show that he can strategize and doesn't have to rely on his mutant powers.
This is perfect! I always try to rewrite the storyline in my head when I see a movie or read a book whose plot doesn't really satisfy me. Now I can just watch your videos!
I was waiting for you to do this..as always you fixed the movie perfectly by using X MEN Evolution..
Danny Benhur, it's because X-Men Evolution is the best version of the X-Men outside of comics
Thomas Welbourn I want to add Wolverine and the X-Men alongside
Micheal Mah'moud, definitely, though it was the same creative team, though I prefer Evolution due to character designs and I felt it was more character driven as Wolverine & the X-Men was story, though the progressive build to both is great... Sure I don't have to tell you though.
90's series has dated quite a bit but I appreciate it for telling stories quite accurately and the anime had some good concepts so if you haven't checked that out I do recommend it.
X men have been treated pretty well on the small screen. All they're animated adaptations are all good and watchable. I wish wolverine and the xmen had more time, I felt like they were going in a good direction before it ended abruptly.
Psylock actually would've been great for a Deadpool sequel
uncanny xforce
deadpool
wolverine
psylocke
fantomex
Well obviously you have never read the Uncanny Xforce then.
Because it's more kill Apocalypse as a child then that shit.
yes
@18:07 For the Cyclops vs Havoc fight, why not have Striker team-up with Cyclops to take down down Havoc, since evil Havoc has been upgraded, I don't think teenage Cyclops can survive a 1 on 1 battle against him? Even though Striker is just human, he still have years of experience & knowledge in weaponry & military tactics over Cyclops. Maybe do a scene with Striker coaching Cyclops on how to survey the landscape & use the terrain to his own advantage or how to create distractions & mislead the enemy to moving where you want him to be. And after Cyclops' victory, have Striker pat him on the back you say "You should join the military. He can use more men like you."
I hope if anyone here writes a movie they run it by you first, you would make it 100% better no matter you are brilliant at this
Most of your suggestions require an understanding of subtlety that most audiences just do not have, which means your suggestions are right on.
No, theu sound like suggestions a fan would make who doesn't completely understand how movies are made.
Dude this was so great. Idk if you're just a big movie fan or wanna work in the industry, but you should totally try to do something in that field. You understand character, motivation, arcs, and how to tell a story very well.
Love your videos man! And yea, I adored X-Men Evolution when I was a kid. I loved the dynamic of having the OG X-Men be the teachers to the younger ones. Also, Wolverine and his story with X-23 was awesome. That show gave him such a sense of humanity.
Alex Love My take on what the MCU could've been
Loki's story is long & rich with dastardly deeds that could have set him up to be the ultimate villain overall instead of Thanos. Imagine the whole setup going from The Guardian armor in Thor 1, every movie (1:War Machine *NEVER* makes an appearance during the ENTIRE 1st series of these movies, but Rhodes is introduced in IM2. 2:Civil War never occurs because Ultron's storyline isn't wasted on something so dumb, AoU ends totally differently, he beats their ass & he gets away) after that happens the same with a slight rewrite to reflect on Loki's misdeeds or deal with whatever consequences happened in their stories from his latest acts, Planet Hulk story wouldn't have been wasted which makes everyone happy. Thor 3 could've had a different subtitle & the main concern could've been Loki releasing the world eating serpent on Midgar. The latest Movie would've been taking the fight to Loki's realm vs. the armies he's been building & THEN it could be called Avengers: Ragnorok.Thor has Heimdall teleport the team away before his final clash with Loki & Asgard's fate is uncertain.
Steve & Tony, quit as active members except Tony doesn't tell anyone not even the movie audience, from now on they will make cameos as guidance for the new members, Bucky becomes Cap & everytime Tony cameos in any movie IM has to be providing assistance in whatever battle that character is in, he still talks & jokes mid battle but we never get a HUD on screen.
Using this method they could've STILL been setting up Infinity War by only showing *3* stones before this Finale,those are the: the Tesseract, which would remain in the cube until the same reveal MUCH later on, the Mind stone & the Power stone left with the Nova Corps. The next 3 are collected in the second series of movies. Ultron makes his mid series boss appearance looking more like his traditional self beats their ass again. In the climax he and IM are the last 2 standing in final 3 minutes of film when IM is defeated Ultron flies him over to the laid out Avengers as they get to their feet & says "Looks like Santa left you guys a present. " Slams IM to the ground "Here let me help you unwrap it!" Rips the armour off the arm revealing black skin underneath, in a HUD screen Rhodes groggily says "Well I guess it's time for the gloves to come off." Cut to Tony sitting at home saying aloud "Well I think you 2 already had your duel, unless you think you can think of a better way to lose this time." I M staggers to feet & watches Ultron flying away, he turns around and finds the team staring at him. Close up of IM helmet, close up Bucky face wide pan of the face off between IM & team. Smash to black screen. Ant Man 3 happens & Ghost becomes Goliath II. Quiksilver finally heals from his wounds, goes through PT and returns.
IM has 1 movie & it leads directly into A:IW.They meet Ultron again during Avengers:IW & it's Avengers vs Ultron vs Thanos. Steve,Tony & Thor returns for these 2 movies + a third in the next series. Everyone loses to Thanos, Ultron escapes again & we're see him place himself somewhere secluded & goes into Stand By, saying "The Avengers when no longer be a problem when I awaken."
Series 3 of the movies starts off with Civil War, because now Spider-Man is of proper age and has the experiences of having a real life before he unmasks himself & there should be more than enough heroes & villains for it to be done correct especially if Marvel has the rights back to X-Men & FF. Civil War is the last action paced movies for Steve & Tony, it will take 2 of them. Hulk kills Goliath II willingly, after being told by Tony to stand down(he's on the Registration team) Steve goes to jail, Tony retires from action. At the end of the 2nd movie Hulk doesn't revert back to Banner takes the Quinjet & leaves but he *DOESN'T* leave the planet. He lives in self exile. All the next solo movies B plot is looking for the Hulk & there's only 1 solo movie apiece,no trilogies, but there are 6 movies 2 of them are duo 1 has to be Scarlet Witch & Vison, Tony & IM get taken together. This is because Kang shows up and teleports them away at the mid credit scene. The next Avenger movie starts off with everyone attacking Kang, he puts them in stasis , explains they're on Future Earth, informs them Ultron has awakened & currently taking over everything & no matter how many times he goes into a different timeline he can't defeat him nor can he find him while he's in Standby. They fight Ultron with Kang & barely lose. Someone remarks that maybe if they'd found Hulk before being kidnapped, he could've helped. Kang says he knows Hulk's location but hasn't sought his help except once because he's crazy. Hulk is old & he doesn't agree to help once he recognizes them. They challenge Ultron again Cap II dies,Hulk shows up & defeats him. Then he turns crazy, attacks Vision thinking he's Ultron, defeats the team, destroys Vision & leaves. Wanda pleads with Kang to go back right before the battle & he explains to her no matter what Vision is still dead in a timeline so he takes everyone back 1 second after they left. They find & capture Hulk, imprison him, hold him accountable for Goliath II death. Tony brings the Illuminati together explains what happens about the future & since he just killed Goliath II they exile him from the planet.
Falcon takes lead role. Wanda goes crazy from grief throughout other characters movies, makes an appearance in an X-Men movie intervening in a battle between X-Men C team and some villains. Kills the villains, X-Men attempt to take her into custody, she snaps & kills them too. Planet Hulk movie happens then Avengers (Falcon becomes Cap III) & X-Men both have a House of M movie then AvX movies. At the conclusion Hulk & his team show up.
World War Hulk ends only because Meep's betrayal is revealed & he goes into exile on Earth again. A few solo movies, by the third NASA announces there is a comet headed for the planet, fourth at the end reveals it's Terrax the Untamed. F4:Herald is the next movie & they defeat him. A:Galactus they lose but a regular person sacrifices himself to leave with Galactus. In mid credit the news reveals it's Norrin Radd & as they say his name we see him surfing through space.
Old Man Logan happens, with the Hulk's children this time. Hulk is acknowledged to be alive but no one looks for him.
The next movie opens with Hulk killing Vision in the future, when Kang returns he kills him also. When news travels that Ultron is dead the remaining new heroes come out from hiding only to now find out Hulk has made himself the new planet dictator and he goes by Maestro now. He kills a lot of the new heroes, they send a distress message to the only hero of legend who may still be around. Rune King Thor shows up &demolishes Maestro. Thor says something like "our story has come to an end old friend... brother. Nothing like I would have thought. I'm sorry." A clip plays that shows what happened after the team left Asgard, he fights Loki until Loki finally drops his guard at the wrong moment Thor immobilizes him, tells him he's doing this for the greater good of all the Realms & he kills Loki. He drops his hammer at the spot of Hulk's death, a makeshift tombstone. He calls for the Bifrost to take him home. A montage of clips from all the movies play during the credits. The end.
X-Men: Evolution is one of my two favorite shows of all time (alongside Avatar: The Last Airbender) and I'm so glad to see it referenced in a CZcams video.
Also, your changes are brilliant! It's well thought out, serves the story and characters and I can't believe you even thought of little details like why everyone except Jean gets a nickname!!
An entire studio couldn't come up with anything like this, which says a lot.
I love videos that offer possible solutions to problems, not just criticism. Keep it up!
You had me at Beast in a speedo.
This would have made Days of Future past a run for its money!
How do you keep making such clever twists and turns?!
John Paul Camit My take on what the MCU could've been
Loki's story is long & rich with dastardly deeds that could have set him up to be the ultimate villain overall instead of Thanos. Imagine the whole setup going from The Guardian armor in Thor 1, every movie (1:War Machine *NEVER* makes an appearance during the ENTIRE 1st series of these movies, but Rhodes is introduced in IM2. 2:Civil War never occurs because Ultron's storyline isn't wasted on something so dumb, AoU ends totally differently, he beats their ass & he gets away) after that happens the same with a slight rewrite to reflect on Loki's misdeeds or deal with whatever consequences happened in their stories from his latest acts, Planet Hulk story wouldn't have been wasted which makes everyone happy. Thor 3 could've had a different subtitle & the main concern could've been Loki releasing the world eating serpent on Midgar. The latest Movie would've been taking the fight to Loki's realm vs. the armies he's been building & THEN it could be called Avengers: Ragnorok.Thor has Heimdall teleport the team away before his final clash with Loki & Asgard's fate is uncertain.
Steve & Tony, quit as active members except Tony doesn't tell anyone not even the movie audience, from now on they will make cameos as guidance for the new members, Bucky becomes Cap & everytime Tony cameos in any movie IM has to be providing assistance in whatever battle that character is in, he still talks & jokes mid battle but we never get a HUD on screen.
Using this method they could've STILL been setting up Infinity War by only showing *3* stones before this Finale,those are the: the Tesseract, which would remain in the cube until the same reveal MUCH later on, the Mind stone & the Power stone left with the Nova Corps. The next 3 are collected in the second series of movies. Ultron makes his mid series boss appearance looking more like his traditional self beats their ass again. In the climax he and IM are the last 2 standing in final 3 minutes of film when IM is defeated Ultron flies him over to the laid out Avengers as they get to their feet & says "Looks like Santa left you guys a present. " Slams IM to the ground "Here let me help you unwrap it!" Rips the armour off the arm revealing black skin underneath, in a HUD screen Rhodes groggily says "Well I guess it's time for the gloves to come off." Cut to Tony sitting at home saying aloud "Well I think you 2 already had your duel, unless you think you can think of a better way to lose this time." I M staggers to feet & watches Ultron flying away, he turns around and finds the team staring at him. Close up of IM helmet, close up Bucky face wide pan of the face off between IM & team. Smash to black screen. Ant Man 3 happens & Ghost becomes Goliath II. Quiksilver finally heals from his wounds, goes through PT and returns.
IM has 1 movie & it leads directly into A:IW.They meet Ultron again during Avengers:IW & it's Avengers vs Ultron vs Thanos. Steve,Tony & Thor returns for these 2 movies + a third in the next series. Everyone loses to Thanos, Ultron escapes again & we're see him place himself somewhere secluded & goes into Stand By, saying "The Avengers when no longer be a problem when I awaken."
Series 3 of the movies starts off with Civil War, because now Spider-Man is of proper age and has the experiences of having a real life before he unmasks himself & there should be more than enough heroes & villains for it to be done correct especially if Marvel has the rights back to X-Men & FF. Civil War is the last action paced movies for Steve & Tony, it will take 2 of them. Hulk kills Goliath II willingly, after being told by Tony to stand down(he's on the Registration team) Steve goes to jail, Tony retires from action. At the end of the 2nd movie Hulk doesn't revert back to Banner takes the Quinjet & leaves but he *DOESN'T* leave the planet. He lives in self exile. All the next solo movies B plot is looking for the Hulk & there's only 1 solo movie apiece,no trilogies, but there are 6 movies 2 of them are duo 1 has to be Scarlet Witch & Vison, Tony & IM get taken together. This is because Kang shows up and teleports them away at the mid credit scene. The next Avenger movie starts off with everyone attacking Kang, he puts them in stasis , explains they're on Future Earth, informs them Ultron has awakened & currently taking over everything & no matter how many times he goes into a different timeline he can't defeat him nor can he find him while he's in Standby. They fight Ultron with Kang & barely lose. Someone remarks that maybe if they'd found Hulk before being kidnapped, he could've helped. Kang says he knows Hulk's location but hasn't sought his help except once because he's crazy. Hulk is old & he doesn't agree to help once he recognizes them. They challenge Ultron again Cap II dies,Hulk shows up & defeats him. Then he turns crazy, attacks Vision thinking he's Ultron, defeats the team, destroys Vision & leaves. Wanda pleads with Kang to go back right before the battle & he explains to her no matter what Vision is still dead in a timeline so he takes everyone back 1 second after they left. They find & capture Hulk, imprison him, hold him accountable for Goliath II death. Tony brings the Illuminati together explains what happens about the future & since he just killed Goliath II they exile him from the planet.
Falcon takes lead role. Wanda goes crazy from grief throughout other characters movies, makes an appearance in an X-Men movie intervening in a battle between X-Men C team and some villains. Kills the villains, X-Men attempt to take her into custody, she snaps & kills them too. Planet Hulk movie happens then Avengers (Falcon becomes Cap III) & X-Men both have a House of M movie then AvX movies. At the conclusion Hulk & his team show up.
World War Hulk ends only because Meep's betrayal is revealed & he goes into exile on Earth again. A few solo movies, by the third NASA announces there is a comet headed for the planet, fourth at the end reveals it's Terrax the Untamed. F4:Herald is the next movie & they defeat him. A:Galactus they lose but a regular person sacrifices himself to leave with Galactus. In mid credit the news reveals it's Norrin Radd & as they say his name we see him surfing through space.
Old Man Logan happens, with the Hulk's children this time. Hulk is acknowledged to be alive but no one looks for him.
The next movie opens with Hulk killing Vision in the future, when Kang returns he kills him also. When news travels that Ultron is dead the remaining new heroes come out from hiding only to now find out Hulk has made himself the new planet dictator and he goes by Maestro now. He kills a lot of the new heroes, they send a distress message to the only hero of legend who may still be around. Rune King Thor shows up &demolishes Maestro. Thor says something like "our story has come to an end old friend... brother. Nothing like I would have thought. I'm sorry." A clip plays that shows what happened after the team left Asgard, he fights Loki until Loki finally drops his guard at the wrong moment Thor immobilizes him, tells him he's doing this for the greater good of all the Realms & he kills Loki. He drops his hammer at the spot of Hulk's death, a makeshift tombstone. He calls for the Bifrost to take him home. A montage of clips from all the movies play during the credits. The end.
Wrong. You need a MacGuffin. That's how the pros do it. 😉
Your whole video essay is amazing(as well as your channel) but 15:15 about the nicknames is brilliant
Okay people call them fireworks cause thats what they look like but Jubilee can fire plasma from her hands like she could vaporize pretty much everyone if she really wanted too. And I get that since its the movie the powers are kinda nerfed like Cyclops doesn't slice people in half with his optic blasts but she could still totally kick butt. Sorry you probably already knew that it's just that Jubilee is my favorite X-man so I always gotta justify her.
She is so frequently underrated - she has blinded The Juggernaut on multiple occasions - nobody (else) stops The Juggernaut
It's so dumb. It's like how people stupidly reframe Aquaman's powers.
"I have skin strong enough to withstand the pressures of the Marina Trench. Good luck with that pathetic punch. I can command sea life including ancient beasts like Topo"
"Hold up... You talk to....fish?"
"Uh, I guess if I need to"
"Hey guys! This guy's powers are talking to fish. What a loser!!!"
This chick basically has laser guns for hands. Laser guns for hands. Objectively an upgrade over knives for hands (Wolverine)
Amen brother
So is she like a long range Bakugo
X-men Evolution is just well done. It's not the best x-men media but it's better then most everything we've gotten, and it's stories are well written. As with all cartoons is a bit cheesy and has clunky diolog at times but I too enjoyed it.
Apocalypse can make clothing :DD
If Apocalypse boosted Quicksilvers Powers he would be actually unstoppable
Wow. The only X-Man missing from this video is YOU. You have the fantastic ability to consistently upload amazing videos that awe everyone that watches your videos. Well done.
X-Men evolution was so fucking cool! I wish it had been able to do a dark Phoenix storyline
Also I love psylocke! I'm happy she made it into a movie finally!
Yeah that show was great. It's a bummer the show ended but it is nice that they gave that glimpse of the future with Jean and Nimrod and the older X-Men.
Khan Kake They already retconned Angel, Storm and other characters. I thought the Psylock retcon needed more tonit
the 90's cartoon actually did a pretty good job of the Phoenix saga. They did days of future past and Phalanx Convent, and a lot of the cris claimont run.
Congrats on reaching 100k subscribers, man!
Thanks! It's a genuine honor that so many people dig the channel.
Oh, man, you actually replied!
I feel like your channel does so many things so well. It dissects movies, evaluates them objectively, and inserts helpful suggestions that would improve the movie based on the basic concepts of filmmaking.
I've agreed with your point of view on every single video I've seen on your channel, especially the Wonder Woman ones.
Keep up the good work! I can't wait for more videos!
OMFG..... Just you explaining these changes was honestly BETTER then the actual movie
From all the video essay channels on CZcams nowadays, this is consistently one of the best. Keep up the good work!
Please fix “The Wolverine”(2013) it’s a movie that wasn’t bad but it just really lacks something.
I would have changed the twist and kept Shingen as the villain, make the Silver Samurai a henchman of his, and have Wolverine give up his immortality at the beginning instead of wondering why he lost it. Basically do an R-rated version of _Superman 2._
I just rewired my brain, your version is now the only version in my head. Thanks : )
Honestly I love both your version and the original version of x men apocalypse
I loved that apocalypse recruited horsemen on a first come, first serve, basis
Thanks for such continuous great content, I watch every week and eagerly anticipate your videos, you're one of my favorite CZcamsrs and one of my biggest inspirations, the email you sent me a while back really helped motivate me, thanks for creating such great content and supporting the community!
I usually skip rewrite videos but you hit this out of the park, man.
I LOVE EVOLUTION! I was a mid 90's kid who didn't really get to experience comic books organically, so shows like X Men Evolution, in conjunction with the X Men Legends video games are what really got me passionate about these characters. I could write essays on how the characters shaped and strengthened who I am in real life.
Also, side note, your rewrites are genius and I don't think you get enough praise for it. Every time I watch one of your videos I sit around hoping the people who wrote and directed these movies are watching too and learn something from you.
Same. I remember liking the comics and the 90's animated show, but Evolution really sold me on all of the characters.
X-Men Evolution is one of my favorite cartoons ever! I was always hoping we would get an adaptation of it somehow in the movies!
Its 2019 and I'd fork over 14 bucks to see your version of Apocalypse. Great job!
Going back to this, still my favorite Nando movie
HE CAN MAKE CLOTHING
Which leads to my biggest question about this movie. Did he make zippers? Is the clothing just one solid piece? How do the Horsemen use the bathroom? Did his power upgrade make them not need to use the bathroom anymore?
The idea of them not needing to use the bathroom due to a power upgrade. I don’t know why but that just sounds so funny to me hahahah
That's a deleted scene. He tells each of them, "now you will fulfill your destiny. I have made you not need to poop or pee anymore. Think of all the time you will save. We will use this time to defeat the X-Men."
He must be the one who taught Piccolo clothes beam!
I'm curious if Disney can actually make a good X-Men movie. It would be hard to replicate the Avengers concept of being the team together. There's too many mutants. Fox did a terrible job. Every movie they introduced mutants only to never see them again. I'm still mad at what Fox did to Jubilee and Blob. Jubilee never gets to use her powers ever. Her scenes are always cut from the films. And Blob is supposed to be unstoppable but he gets knocked out like nothing. He only has a one second role of being knocked out wtf!
David Ortiz Blob and Juggs are opposites. Juggs is the unstoppable force and Blob is the immovable object.
"There's too many mutants" we had the same worries with Infinity War and they nailed it; my guess is that we'll not see X-Men for the next 3-4 years and that Feige already had some sorta of plan in mind even before Disney started the negociations to buy Fox. The MCU was build in a way that is always possible to introduce new people without looking weird.
too many X-men? Yeah but they do not have to introduced all at once, or even AT ALL? I do not get these people's arguments...
Seriously, Nando, I tend to LOVE how you adapt these movies. All the best, and I hope you get to really effectively influence movies.
This is single handedly the greatest piece of rewrite fanfiction I have ever seen. Amazing job
My only change to what you suggested is that Quicksilver is the horseman not Magneto because a superspeed fightscene similar to DOFP with a dark undertone showing how he could be as devastating as his father(Magneto) was in first class would be a really intriguing premise not to mention a awesome scene
I love that idea even more than the one in the video. It would also be awesome if brainwashed Quicksilver told Magneto about being his son in the middle of the battle. It could be something Apocalypse made him do to leverage Magneto and try to pull him onto their side. Or maybe it's some hidden frustration Peter always had, but was revealed because his mind is under the influence of Apoc. Magneto would have to choose between his "family" of x-men and an actual family. It would make an amazing "Oh shit!" moment, instead of a plotline that was only briefly mentioned and then abandoned for no reason.
Honestly I love some good ol "son brings father back to the Light Side" narrative but this twist would be indeed so refreshing and interesting. We already saw Magneto in this bad/not so bad dynamic multiple times in movies since the 2000s, is almost like the killing Uncle Ben joke at this point.
Speedsters are overpowered. Not one of the xmen could beat him. Especially if he had a helmet like magneto.
I love this for so many reasons. I love magneto having to earn the trust of the x-men but them eventually working with him because he wants to radically change the world not destroy it. A good old fashioned moral dilemma on his part as Erik realizes that even though apocalypse wants a world of mutants, what he's doing is wrong. Plus it's a good opportunity for some fun banter between him and Charles. I think it'd be way more fun if he was taken and brain washed later in the movie. This way he comes to care about those on the team and we care about him more than if he's just snatched. I think a type of self sacrifice (intentional or he stayed behind to cover his friends escape and ends up captured) would be the best way for apocalypse to get his hands on him, showing how important those he cares about are to him (lets just run with the family theme the movie tried to give him) so theres an added level of emotion doing when the others fight him. Quicksilver was caught so they could escape and this is the consequences of that. Quicksilver won't get upgraded because he was captured later so there's no time for it, plus he's already super over powered to begin with and this way he won't be unbeatable. I like the idea of magneto working with the sentinels to stop quicksilver but this time not controlling them, it feels like a fun call back and can be a reference to Erik changing because of the event and realizing that burning everything to the ground and controlling the warped remains of what's left is a bad way to do things like I mentioned earlier. The fight itself would have the same sort of chaotic energy quicksilver had in his first scene in days of future past where he wants to break into the pentagon just for the fun of it, but much more malevolent. He'd wreak more havoc than havoc because any morals or limits he'd set for himself would be completely gone. I like to think that apocalypse isn't actively controlling his horsemen or stripping them of their personality as much as he is warping their minds to fit his needs. So the mental link think wouldn't work and we would get some fun and cynical quips from quicksilver since he's still the same person, just wrap. Also because of this, he'd probably still value family, but it'd be pushed to the back of his mind. Reminding him of it could make him hesitate in battle giving magneto a chance to break the control. I'm not sure how the actual reveal would go but maybe quicksilver reveals to a nearly beaten magneto that he can't believe he use to look up to and care about him even though he was never there for him, how in the past he was blinded by the fact that he was his father to see how pathetic and weak he actually was. Wow I wrote a lot more than I previously anticipated.
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And still he got his ass handed to him by Apocalypse after a few hits
Apocalypse looked like a blue Emperor Palpatine from Star Warrs.
Oh man, X-Men Evolution was one of my favorite shows when I was younger! It's so great to see someone else knows of it, it's severely underrated. As for the plot you put out in the video, I'm actually very sad now that the movie turned out the way it did. If they had done something more similar to what you suggested here, I bet so many more people who were left unsatisfied by the actual movie would have enjoyed it much more.
Brilliant!! So well thought out! I absolutely love it!
Every time one of your videos pops up, it excites me.
Fix origins please
I think I am going to take a look at most of the X-Men movies in the near future.
Don't call him Deadpool, fix CGI. There done.
I like origins
There's no fixing origins, let's be honest
Well you could just make the Deadpool 2 end credits bit real it doesn’t fix much but feels right
That was amazing. I wish the X-Men films could be more like how you changed things up.
Dude you are really good at this. Most of these videos sound like much better movies than the original.
A. I fucking LOVE your version so much more than what we got.
B. I have one idea on how to make it even better. We're doing Dark Phoenix next - let's set that up here. Cyclops has a plan in Egypt to fight Apocalypse, we're going to send everything we have straight at Magneto to draw attention - Sentinels, Storm, Angel, Quicksilver and Cyclops - all the people who draw LOTS of attention to themselves. Meanwhile Nightcrawler, Jean, and Jubilee carry the real mission - covertly get control of Professor X: they take Magneto's helmet to sever Apocalypse's control of the Professor, which means the Overt Team need to kill Magneto. That's a great moment for Quicksilver and Magneto that will have a big impact on the audience, and pass the torch to the new X-men: Magneto dies at the end.
Now, Covert Team (Nightcrawler, Jean, and Jubilee) get control of Professor X, and Cyclops kinda thought that freeing Professor X might be enough to turn the tide - but it's not - Apocalypse is a fucking monster - and even with all their power, he's still just toying with them. Nightcrawler is critically wounded trying to get into melee with Apocalypse, Professor X and Jean are using all their might and still struggling to psychically hamper Apocalypse, who is not only mentally combating them, but also fighting off everyone else at this point - and suddenly it looks like Jean dies. Wait, no. What the fuck is happening. Jean is reborn - but she's not Jean. Professor X, a moment ago at the edge of breaking just from fighting Apocalypse, is now terrified - because he's the only one who knows what's coming: he put the restrictions in her mind himself.
Phoenix and Apocalypse battle. Yup. We're doing it a movie earlier now. With no explanation for the non-fans. Apocalypse is properly wounded and flees the battle, teleports out, we have no idea where he ended up. Jean is heavily damaged herself - she ends the battle unconscious, in critical condition, in a hospital. Professor X pays his respects to Magneto in the morgue, then goes upstairs to see Jean fresh from the OR. End the movie with some ominous discussion between the team about what exactly Jean/Phoenix is, and not knowing who will wake up - and if it's perhaps even better to keep her sedated forever.
Now, what this sets up is - despite Cyclops's protestation - to keep Jean sedated, Hank and Prof. X, and a team of scientists are studying her - but they still aren't certain who is in there: Prof. X considers it a gamble to wake her. In Dark Phoenix, eventually a new threat looms so large in the first act that they awake Jean - but she's Phoenix - and then she's Dark Phoenix in act 2, and then they battle and restore her in act 3: putting some limitations on her back in place. There we go, Jean is restored to the team following the events of Dark Phoenix ready for new movies.
Yvaelle My take on what the MCU could've been
Loki's story is long & rich with dastardly deeds that could have set him up to be the ultimate villain overall instead of Thanos. Imagine the whole setup going from The Guardian armor in Thor 1, every movie (1:War Machine *NEVER* makes an appearance during the ENTIRE 1st series of these movies, but Rhodes is introduced in IM2. 2:Civil War never occurs because Ultron's storyline isn't wasted on something so dumb, AoU ends totally differently, he beats their ass & he gets away) after that happens the same with a slight rewrite to reflect on Loki's misdeeds or deal with whatever consequences happened in their stories from his latest acts, Planet Hulk story wouldn't have been wasted which makes everyone happy. Thor 3 could've had a different subtitle & the main concern could've been Loki releasing the world eating serpent on Midgar. The latest Movie would've been taking the fight to Loki's realm vs. the armies he's been building & THEN it could be called Avengers: Ragnorok.Thor has Heimdall teleport the team away before his final clash with Loki & Asgard's fate is uncertain.
Steve & Tony, quit as active members except Tony doesn't tell anyone not even the movie audience, from now on they will make cameos as guidance for the new members, Bucky becomes Cap & everytime Tony cameos in any movie IM has to be providing assistance in whatever battle that character is in, he still talks & jokes mid battle but we never get a HUD on screen.
Using this method they could've STILL been setting up Infinity War by only showing *3* stones before this Finale,those are the: the Tesseract, which would remain in the cube until the same reveal MUCH later on, the Mind stone & the Power stone left with the Nova Corps. The next 3 are collected in the second series of movies. Ultron makes his mid series boss appearance looking more like his traditional self beats their ass again. In the climax he and IM are the last 2 standing in final 3 minutes of film when IM is defeated Ultron flies him over to the laid out Avengers as they get to their feet & says "Looks like Santa left you guys a present. " Slams IM to the ground "Here let me help you unwrap it!" Rips the armour off the arm revealing black skin underneath, in a HUD screen Rhodes groggily says "Well I guess it's time for the gloves to come off." Cut to Tony sitting at home saying aloud "Well I think you 2 already had your duel, unless you think you can think of a better way to lose this time." I M staggers to feet & watches Ultron flying away, he turns around and finds the team staring at him. Close up of IM helmet, close up Bucky face wide pan of the face off between IM & team. Smash to black screen. Ant Man 3 happens & Ghost becomes Goliath II. Quiksilver finally heals from his wounds, goes through PT and returns.
IM has 1 movie & it leads directly into A:IW.They meet Ultron again during Avengers:IW & it's Avengers vs Ultron vs Thanos. Steve,Tony & Thor returns for these 2 movies + a third in the next series. Everyone loses to Thanos, Ultron escapes again & we're see him place himself somewhere secluded & goes into Stand By, saying "The Avengers when no longer be a problem when I awaken."
Series 3 of the movies starts off with Civil War, because now Spider-Man is of proper age and has the experiences of having a real life before he unmasks himself & there should be more than enough heroes & villains for it to be done correct especially if Marvel has the rights back to X-Men & FF. Civil War is the last action paced movies for Steve & Tony, it will take 2 of them. Hulk kills Goliath II willingly, after being told by Tony to stand down(he's on the Registration team) Steve goes to jail, Tony retires from action. At the end of the 2nd movie Hulk doesn't revert back to Banner takes the Quinjet & leaves but he *DOESN'T* leave the planet. He lives in self exile. All the next solo movies B plot is looking for the Hulk & there's only 1 solo movie apiece,no trilogies, but there are 6 movies 2 of them are duo 1 has to be Scarlet Witch & Vison, Tony & IM get taken together. This is because Kang shows up and teleports them away at the mid credit scene. The next Avenger movie starts off with everyone attacking Kang, he puts them in stasis , explains they're on Future Earth, informs them Ultron has awakened & currently taking over everything & no matter how many times he goes into a different timeline he can't defeat him nor can he find him while he's in Standby. They fight Ultron with Kang & barely lose. Someone remarks that maybe if they'd found Hulk before being kidnapped, he could've helped. Kang says he knows Hulk's location but hasn't sought his help except once because he's crazy. Hulk is old & he doesn't agree to help once he recognizes them. They challenge Ultron again Cap II dies,Hulk shows up & defeats him. Then he turns crazy, attacks Vision thinking he's Ultron, defeats the team, destroys Vision & leaves. Wanda pleads with Kang to go back right before the battle & he explains to her no matter what Vision is still dead in a timeline so he takes everyone back 1 second after they left. They find & capture Hulk, imprison him, hold him accountable for Goliath II death. Tony brings the Illuminati together explains what happens about the future & since he just killed Goliath II they exile him from the planet.
Falcon takes lead role. Wanda goes crazy from grief throughout other characters movies, makes an appearance in an X-Men movie intervening in a battle between X-Men C team and some villains. Kills the villains, X-Men attempt to take her into custody, she snaps & kills them too. Planet Hulk movie happens then Avengers (Falcon becomes Cap III) & X-Men both have a House of M movie then AvX movies. At the conclusion Hulk & his team show up.
World War Hulk ends only because Meep's betrayal is revealed & he goes into exile on Earth again. A few solo movies, by the third NASA announces there is a comet headed for the planet, fourth at the end reveals it's Terrax the Untamed. F4:Herald is the next movie & they defeat him. A:Galactus they lose but a regular person sacrifices himself to leave with Galactus. In mid credit the news reveals it's Norrin Radd & as they say his name we see him surfing through space.
Old Man Logan happens, with the Hulk's children this time. Hulk is acknowledged to be alive but no one looks for him.
The next movie opens with Hulk killing Vision in the future, when Kang returns he kills him also. When news travels that Ultron is dead the remaining new heroes come out from hiding only to now find out Hulk has made himself the new planet dictator and he goes by Maestro now. He kills a lot of the new heroes, they send a distress message to the only hero of legend who may still be around. Rune King Thor shows up &demolishes Maestro. Thor says something like "our story has come to an end old friend... brother. Nothing like I would have thought. I'm sorry." A clip plays that shows what happened after the team left Asgard, he fights Loki until Loki finally drops his guard at the wrong moment Thor immobilizes him, tells him he's doing this for the greater good of all the Realms & he kills Loki. He drops his hammer at the spot of Hulk's death, a makeshift tombstone. He calls for the Bifrost to take him home. A montage of clips from all the movies play during the credits. The end.
A Nando video that is over 20 minutes long? YES PLEASE
the traditional gimmick of cyclops vs havoc has been that cyclops is better trained and more experienced. so while havoc stands around blasting scot, cyclops is the one who thinks to shoot something that explodes and hits havoc. or can target havoc's hands so he flies into a wall.
I'm working on writing my own manga and in the last 4 hours your page has giving me so much inspiration. Dope ass channel bro. Wish I wasn't poor so I could donate to your patreon. Keep doing your thing bro.
These videos are all so great!