U-DRAG RACE: BMW M2 vs. Chevy Corvette Stingray | Quarter Mile, Handling & More!
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- čas přidán 5. 06. 2024
- Welcome back to Edmunds U-Drags, our series of down-and-back drag races that incorporate a standing quarter mile, handling, and a rolling start all in one race! In this episode, the BMW M2 takes on the ever-impressive Chevrolet Corvette Stingray. V6 vs. V8, front-engine vs. mid-engine, European vs. American: Which sports car has what it takes?
00:00 Intro
00:21 The Numbers
01:04 Race 1 Prep
02:59 Race 1
05:12 Race 2 Prep
06:16 Race 2
08:58 Best Numbers Recap
09:28 U-Drags Leaderboard
09:42 Edmunds' Take
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Does this result surprise you? Apparently, engine location really does matter. Let us know what you think in the comments.
I like your U-drags but I'm sorry to disagree with the conclusions. Here the BMW pulling more G's in the turn with whatever tires it has. So it could be faster on a track with many curves haha.
These races are fun but not very relevant. I'll keep watching anyway
I choose a C7 GS and a C8 Z51 Corvette over both M2 generations, twice! The M2 continues to hold back improvements and gets uglier year after year. Where is the M2 mid-engine and beauty? The M2 is just lame, year after year.
Is the corvette RWD? I know it's a mid engine car so even if it was it helps its case alot. Vs a XDrive bmw it would get smoked as shown in many comparisons. On the track and a straight line. I'd just be embarrassed to drive a corvette. Universally known as the old man retirement fund sports car. Poor man's sports car.
No, not really, no. Putting a sports car against a GT car is fun but not a fair comparison.
You want a fun comparison, put the 2008 C6 Z06 against the Edmunds Stingray on the U-Drags, then the 2016 C7 GS, then 2019 Z06. Let's put a true comparison down to the ground and show everyone what a good old American Sports Car can do when it competes with itself.
@@Platypus_WarriorI agree with that, however relevant is based on your perspective. This U drag test is going to be more relevant to public road driving in America rather than track driving. The M2 with the better braking and higher G forces suggest it may do better on tight tracks. But that’s not conclusive. Smooth is fast. I can create a jarring G force very high. Doesn’t make that faster than racing smooth and minimizing g forces.
I'd love to see Z06 vs ERay.
Oooo thats a great suggestion.
E Ray probably smoke it because of 0-60 time
@davidhavard1908 But weighs more knowing it has a battery and less power.
@davidhavard1908 But also the Z06 has more drag/ downforce
@@benjaminmatute9085 You know both cars runs the exact same times, per Chevrolet. Downforce plays little in the 1/4 mile and cornering that Edmunds does. It would only be a factor for the Z06 after the turn and would slow it down. The Eray keeps all 655 HP until 150 mph or so and the electric motor will turn off dropping it down to 495 HP but the race should be over by that point.
But....there is only 1 way to find out and Edmunds need to make this happen!
M2 has less power, more weight and is less aerodynamic so the result is not a shocker tbh.
Thats what she said hehe
Less power is debatable, since I've seen dyno estimates above 470 wheel, and BMW is known to underrate their engines.
@@rwilson4073 Definitely very similar power. But everything else favors the Vette for sure.
@@corystansbury For sure, I guess that extra 5 grand buys you a DCT, aero, engine placement, and some weight reduction, but both of these cars are pretty damn impressive for the price.
Went as I expected. However, I was surprised that the M2 had faster trap speed in the 1/4-mile and higher top speed at the end. Speed, of course, related to horsepower so I think the M2 is actually putting out more HP than the Vette.
I crossed shopped these two cars and loved them both. Ended up going with the C8 Z51 HTC just because it felt and sounded more special, but that M2 is a very close runner up and certainly more practical. Can’t go wrong with either car.
I like this. Anything in the same price range should be cross shopped even when the cars are completely different. Both are amazing cars so you can't go wrong either way.
@@jp23x That's how I shop all my cars.
Why do you say the M2 is certainly more practical?
@@kevinbreese5739probably rear seats?
The C8 obliterated the M2 as expected. The fact that the M2 actually weighs MORE than the Corvette is just ridiculous on every front.
You forgot to mention that the bimmer is shaped like a cow except less aerodynamic.
@@40goose40 ha! True. The C8 is certainly not subtle, but I don’t dislike the new M2. I do like that it can be had with a manual.
The m2 has 2 more seats and is a traditional front engine rwd car. Of course it should weigh more than a mid-engined supercar.
what? 2-seater weighing less than a midsize car with 4 seats is a shocker? Was there any point in a history when any (not just bmw) midsize car weigh less than Corvette of a simillar year?
Corvettes have always been light agile sports cars. In what world has an M2 ever been lighter than a Corvette? Back in 2006 the Corvette Z06 weighed 3,100lbs.
The Stingray is dialed in !!!
That Corvette means serious business!! The way it pulls on that M2 in completely insane
Your surprised ?? SMH
I love this you can see the difference between the two drives pros and cons
Another thing is, Edmunds don’t take bad launches to head. On race 1, M2 didn’t launch well. M2 can do better.
@JSS430
C8 is a very low 3 second car on
The street. Real owners have got
3.1 0-60 , M2 isnt getting close
To that. They sandbagged that
Nice job Chevrolet engineers! More U-Drags please!
I've said it before! Run the C8 against the C6 Z06! Their numbers are close in 0-60, 1/4 mile and HP. Plus the Z has 400 less pounds. I would love to see that!
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@@edmundscarsc6 gen z06
@@edmundscars🤦🏻♂️
Are the U Drags current model year car vs current model year car?
The C6 Z06 doesn't hold a candle next to a base C8 auto. I had a C6 Z06(new in 2008 by the way), fast car but the C8 would destroy it not only on the launch but also coming out of the cones. The only thing the C6 Z06 can compete against a C8 is ONLY roll acceleration and braking but it will lose badly on acceleration from a dead stop and from accelerating out of the corner.
Love this race format and my C8 Z51 HTC. Thanks for the videos!
Considering everything aero, weight, power the results were expected. I’d like to see the BMW M8 vs Z06.
Apparently you enjoy seeing German super-camrys getting stomped on by Corvettes.
@@40goose40 Your hilarious thanks needed this laugh lmao!!!!!!!
It would be down to the driver. The M8 would certainly have the top end
@@40goose40.....my neighbor owns a BMW M8 (tuned) with just over 700 hp. It looks and performs nothing like a Camry. He sold his Vette because his M8 was a better car all-around.
@@40goose40 m8 destroys this corv
Impressive M2 results as it's less on power, less on torque and at a less price with more weight ..Thanks for race
Base price the corvette costs less, they just have this one optioned up which doesn’t help performance. Would love to own either of these gems!
@@jimhimesjr Expensive options indeed, unfortunate on this part of the world the only American muscle car available is the Mustang dark house..wish we had full list Corvettes,Camaros,Chev etc...
Less on power isn't likely, dyno tests show it putting down more to the wheels than they claim at the crank, so I'd be shocked if it's not at over 500 horse. The corvette tested had a lower base price, but since then they've increased the MSRP to a few thousand over the BMW. Still a very good showing from BMW, and a very excellent car from the price.
@@rwilson4073 Also factor in the weight it gets worse power/weight ratio. Bmw conservative on power output.
Hope the upcoming trimmed M2 CS will do better
Crazy to me the base prices are even close.
The 1.2s gap is not consistent with the numbers ie bmw better braking and peak grip and only 0.2s slower in the 1/4. Seems like the driver balls’d up the exit majorly in the second race
Better peak grip is pointless because there's no defined turn you're required to do. The C8 holds a higher average g force in the corners and transfers weight in the corners better despite using less grippy tires compared to the M2
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Love that Stingray, and I don't even like Corvettes normally.
that curve that the corvette made in the second corrie was kind of insane 🤩🤩🤩🤩🤩😱😱😱😱
C8 Corvette is the greatest car I'll never by. Great racing format...love U-Drag Races!!
the fact that a front engine rear drive 3800 pound luxury sports car was able to accelerate that hard and trap with a higher speed tells you how capable it is. It's only traction limited at corner exit and initial dig
Power is not the M2’s problem, it has tons of it, and a real world edge in power/weight when you consider it traps 1mph higher in the 1/4 mile.
The M2 lacks the ability to use its power, which is VERY clearly demonstrated by the C8 having a higher trap speed at the end of this run; it explodes out of the corner while the M2 can’t use any power until it’s pointed straight.
As much as I didn’t like the C8 going rear-engine, you can’t deny the advantages of that layout. To keep up the M2 would need XDrive.
yeah the vette has a bigass V8 sitting close to the rear wheels which are wider then the M2's wheels, will always dig better @@superspeeder
So in order words the m2 is overpriced for what it is.
@@kidodakid8861 the M240i XDrive is much cheaper than the M2, and a better choice for most people, in my opinion, since it can use its power.
Need to see M2 vs CT4-V
The CT4-V Blackwing honestly needs wider tires in Cup 2 tread
Love to see ERAY VS GT500
From a price aspect, an M4C vs a C8 Z51 would have been a more accurate comparison.
Not surprised on the result but you can setup the M2 for full launch control using the M2 button and then configure the M1 button so that you can hit it during the braking zone and have the configuration you want for the rest of the test. (M1 button: Sports plus, D3, sports suspension etc.) For this test using the paddles with full DSC off should be fine as it’s literally one corner and you can modulate the power in second gear around the bend and into the return straight. (I have an M4 competition X-Drive and prior to that a G80 M3 RWD manual and have tested every imaginable M1/M2 button configuration) 🙂
moving engine to back for RWD really makes differents by adding weight to the wheel which enhance the grip
Can we get a race there we’re uncertain of the outcome and am excited to see?
Completely expected. The only question is the gap. As said, mid engine thus better launch and turning and braking. More power... Lighter...
M2 needed a one second start, at least.
Is the 2024 Jaguar F-type worth bringing out for a udrag?
One car is a touring car and the other is a pure Sports car that is actually race derived from the Pratt miller GTLM GM collaboration. GMs input was from a production and cost standpoint, but these C8 series cars compete with carbon tub chassis cars for limit handling on virtually any track.
I don't think the M2 is a touring car.
@@scottyk329agreed.
M2 is a touring car? 😂😂
@@kidodakid8861 Most certainly is.
Nope
I’ve had Chevy and I’ve had a couple of BMW M. Would always choose the American, every day of the week. Still, can’t help noticing how the bimmer, which here in Germany including Vmax 177 mph (285 km/h) costs about $28k (€25,272) less than the Vette - at least until the Chevrolet was removed from the configurator last year -, has higher end speed at the end of each segment, and considerably higher G’s. Wonder how it would end with a longer track …
Great video, would love to see U drag an Audi RS3.
Great race! Was trying to recall if on the old UDrag track if the M3 comp beat the C8 or not? Thought the M3 won but could be wrong. We also all know that BMW underrates there engines so it’s nice to see these races in real life and not on paper
Yeah I’d be interested to see this race as well. AWD would be a game-changer on the launch.
This race needs to redone as neither cars are getting their best times. Just waiting for Carwow.
Carwow sucks at launching their cars too. Matt Watson has never launched a C8 Corvette in under 3.3 seconds despite people getting 2.8s on the street often
How about the C8 Z51 package with the F-Type R. I'm looking at these two now. 575hp and AWD would be interesting in against the mid-engine and lighter weight vette.
Bmw trapping higher speeds roll on race would be interesting 3rd gear pull..but this is a great test love it
want to see a C8 against a 911 carerra S.. Or even the base model Carerra..
I mean the C8 does beat the Porsche 911 Carrera S at the nurburgring and posts a faster quarter mile time so my bet is C8
Would be interesting to see a roll race between these two..
How did you only get 3.5 0-60 with the C8. I get 2.7-2.9 every time I launch it.
Jackie Ding is showing what the G87 M2 can do on tracks.
I thought the C8 would be significantly quicker. I have seen the C8s here in Tucson at 3100 ft at Tucson dragway running 11.2@124 mph. I am really surprised that it held up that well on the second pass arriving at the cones almost at the same time and pulling 1.25g. I know they come with 300TW from factory so pulling 1.25Gs is very impressive.
I am once again requesting Porsche GT4 vs C8
Yeap, test against the ERay and Z06
If you are going to drag race a Corvette, first is to use M on the transmission and use paddle shifters, traction control OFF, do not put it in track mode as that is for a course like Watkins Glen not a drag strip, I needs to be in sport mode. Launch set up needs to be pre programmed or follow basic foot on break and foot on gas and when you are ready to launch pedal to the floor, which will need to be practiced it usually just hooks up and takes off, You can heat up in the tires for a burn out in the staging area like normal.
Id like to imagine Putting the m2 in its softest suspension setting would help with its launch a bit. Despite the outcome, im still happy to be a g87 m2 owner
Next week… Chiron vs Prius
Love that you had to go down to the m2 for this race ; couldn’t quite use the m4 lol
Excellent as always. 😁 However, M3 against this maybe a bit better.
Vette is mid-engine, has more power, and weighs less than the M2. No surprise here.
Wow that M2 launch was so delayed?!?
Would love to see M2 vs. RS3 u drag
They both run ~11.8 stock. Audi has less power but the AWD is a huge advantage off the line
Great Race! The M2´s suspension may be better in soft on a bumpy road, but this would have not deleted the difference we saw on the track. The M´s launch procedure is a joke and just sucks, compared to the easy but effective Chevy´s one! Clear handling advantage for the Vette, especially when turning in Race 2 it was clear to see.
This was aight . Love the track idea and switching drivers . However They are definitely not James and his buddy at ThrottleHouse
Oo my god the result was very unexpected . I don't have realised that's gonna happen 😱😱😱😱😱
I want to see some cs or csl models on the channel see if there is a difference
What happened to the higher top end on the M2 that was not mentioned?How did it have higher speed and it got so close when braking? I think it can do better if manually shifted or with a rolling start. Could also have to do with the M traction control setup not being optimal for that U drag turn…
Because biased as fuck, that's why.
@@mattyoz0Cope.
@@mattyoz0lmfao
@@mattyoz0no, lol... the C8 Corvette wasn't driven the best either, it was over a half second slower than normal because they screw up their launches. The C8 has better handling than the M2 but had a lower peak grip. They clearly have improper tire pressure. It's supposed to be 28psi on all 4 in track alignment and 40psi in street alignment for better fuel economy and tire life. They're on street alignment which is why it's performing so poorly
Nope.@@saltyfloridaman7163
No surprise at all.
Um... Perhaps the direct competitor for the M2, Audi RS3, would have been a better choice...?
The corner exit on the second race is suspect... The cars are dead even through the corner and suddenly the Vette has 4 lengths... Calling BS on the impartiality on this one
Better average grip through the corners. The C8 Stingray is in street alignment so its tires are at 40psi and the wheel camber is straight up, which hurts launch, braking, and cornering performance. The mid engine architecture gives it better weight transfer that let's it accelerate out of the apex of a corner faster than a front engine car, which is what you saw here. If anything the C8 is handicapped because they aren't using track alignment settings which improves performance. Launches are improved mostly due to the tires being set at 28psi while cornering is improved because the camber allows for a better contact patch when the tires are under load in a corner
Not surprised at all. NA vs turbo and weight (dang that M is heavy).
Also, BMWs plethora of settings sounds like the Cheesecake factory menu.
I'm a tech guy, and even MY eyes rolled when he was rattling off all the parameters for launch control on the M2.
This might be a loss for the M2 but due to the ability to tune the BMW easily compared to the C8, a few bolt ons and you’d have a much closer match and still a lower cost car that is more everyday friendly
Can you do 765lt and plaid
Can you do the Cadillac ct5v black wing
M2: I’m starving what’s your business hours?
Stingray: Gapplebees is open 24 hours
I wanna see that z06 vs an e63s AMG or the M5 CS
Mid engined car is always going to put the power down then a front engine car.. would be interesting against a g80 cs
Would have been a better match with a M4 competition maybe?
Edmunds update your leaderboard on your site.
I've owned an M2 and a Corvette.
The M2 is a barrel of laughs
The Corvette is the next level
I’m a Chevy guy but My respects for that M2 thought
It would have more interesting if M240i drive was used. It might have been closer
That second run in the M2 was a great launch but what the heck happened at the turn back??
Something just does not look right after the turn. looks fixed to me
If you watched it, he overcooked it, brake later than the C8 as it see it was slightly ahead in the braking zone, so no way was it going to turn and beat the C8 as the M2 would have to wait until the car was settled before going full power. Watch the video of the second race and you'll see it.
the c8 does a 0-60 on the street in 2.8-3.0 all day long...hundreds of youtube videos showing it. they can also run high 10's stock at the track. never seen one run 3.5 to 60.
Tire pressure on the Vette seemed a bit low. 29 on the right tires and 30 / 31 on the left? (I'll assume the sun is heating up the tires on the left a bit more). That said, not sure what the actual stock target is for them, just curious.
30 is the recommended pressure from factory on all 4 corners.
@@raredanceclassics Thanks, meant to say I wasn't sure the stock pressure that was recommended.
Why is it so hard to set launch control? in a Porsche you just select Sport+ and hold the brake and accelerator
Afternoon guys
A tuned M2 at least would've been fair as that Vette is supercar status,
The car with the higher trap speed probably has more horsepower. Interesting it was the M2
M3 comp vs Corvette would be better matchup. How did Edmunds really decide on this matchup.....?
I changed the air filter in my c8 and my 0-60 is now 2.6 seconds
For some reason the factory air filter on the C8s that first come on them have a coating that reduces airflow slightly to improve filtering whike the engine is in break in period. It's useless honestly and starves a few hp out of it.
Do this with an M4 comp x drive and the stingrway. This isn't surprising l.
What about C8 vs M4 Competition?
Should've run it against the ev6! the Vette and ev6 would've been close
You kind of wonder if Edmonds knows what they're doing. Everyone knows it's torque over horsepower. But in their little side by side number they do horsepower per the car weight.
Why not do the stingray vs the m3?
U drag a 992 GT3 vs 992 GT3 RS please!
The C8 is AWESOME !! American Mid Engine !!
M2 Competition Xdrive should've been the comparison
The m2 needed a driver mod. It has more power indicated by the higher trap speed and dyno videos and it pulls higher gs. Seems like it was sandbagging or just unideal driving in that last run
100%
They both drove each car. Lol! The M2 sucks, so it loses.
There's only one thing that likes to suck around here and it ain't the M2...@@ytsux9259
It's also a heavy car and it's front engine. You do realize physics factors into this, sure it has power, but utilizing that power still requires the car, suspension and weight distribution to work in concert. It's not going to beat an MR car with similar weight and power, unless the car is really poorly dialed in. C8 far from poorly dialed in, get the day it landed it was handing far more expensive cars their rear ends due to its performance and it's only the base model car. M2 isn't a base model is the top of the line 2 series. Just take the loss and stop looking for conspiracies.
The C8 is mid engine, it can put its power down in a corner sooner than a front engine car, plus if you wanna get technical, the C8 is in street alignment which hurts launch and cornering performance since the tire pressure and alignment isn't setup properly to allow a full contact patch on the tires
Was there anything that said the M2 would have been close?
Try this again with an M4 comp Xdrive
The M2 did quite well, but this was the Corvette's race to lose, and it showed that Chevy engineers did their job well in building a quicker car. I am still eagerly awaiting the U-Drag race with the Tesla Model S Plaid with the track package, which is overdue. But this was a fun race. Thanks!
V6 in the video description? Low has attention to details gone :D.
And there you go the second race they took off exactly at the same time and look at how close the Run was ¿`_
2nd race, they launch almost the same, exit the corner side by side then suddenly the Vette has 5 lengths 😂😂😂. What happened edmunds
Huge bmw fan but the m2 has a face only a mother could love. 😊
Boy, do they drag these out!
Race the M4 comp x-drive
Not surprised, the Corvette also hakd most of it weight over the rear
There are a handful of other M cars that would actually put up a fight against the C8 SR. Why the M2?
The value in the M2 is it's available with a stick, and it is a much better daily than the Vette
Excellent performance, fun to drive (read manual transmission), in a more usable package
Quit it with the manual transmission lies.
@@evilformerlys4704 I have 3 autos and 4 manual (including the 23 M2). The autos are easier to drive and faster, but manual much more fun to drive because you are doing more than just step on your right foot. If you want to travel fast, get a Tesla (yes beats the vette too). If you want to enjoy driving, get a stick.
That Corvette should be racing the M2's big brother (M3).
They underrated the m2 engine alot
What’s next: McLaren (anything) vs. Honda Civic Type R??
How is that remotely similar? Price, class and cross shopping don't even match. If this is a joke, I don't get it!🤷