1,025 HP Dodge Demon 170 vs 1,234 HP Lucid Sapphire 1/4 Mile Drag Race
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- We race the 1,234 HP Lucid Sapphire, the quickest production sedan in the world vs the 1,025 HP Dodge Demon 170 down the 1/4 Mile.
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Ferrari SF90 over them both
Would love to see Chiron Supersport going against lucid sapphire or Chiron Pur Sport will be fine
Sapphire any day. The 170 is pretty cool, but it's a one-trick pony. Gotta wait to cool down between each run; produces different power depending on fuel, altitude, humidity, temperature, etc.
you should bring a gintani svj
4680 Roadster = GAME OVER ⚡️🇺🇸
IM Genuinely Curious Sir!
Do you REALLY need to Flex like that when you drive? Here's a Test PUNCH IT with no hands on the wheel , OR 2 fingers on the wheel lol
U know I'm a fan , And we've spoke in the past ( when you guys used to engage with who keep your channel up n running.. 👍🏽 5:07
Dodge named it the 170 because it took 170 passes in perfect conditions to see that 8.9.
FAKE there's no real time slips no vbox data
It's best time is 9.1 @147 mph
@Smzxe There is an official timeslip Racer X showed it in one of his videos. The Demon 170 is a cool car. However, it will never come close to beating the Saphire a Plaid, maybe if all the moons align.
Op was joking you dongs
@@SmzxeSo it’s not NHRA certified for 8.91 @151 mph??? Hmmmm
@@danieljohn4603 where is time slip?
If you tell me at 2010, that a luxury EV would beat a 6.2 L V8 Muscle car with +1000 HP, I would have never believed you.
Impressive !!
Tesla used electricity without wires in 1894
not impressive at all, its just like comparing walkman from the 80s to a smartphone playing mp3 - its pure technology progress nothing else
Dont know whats impressive, its 1300hp vs 1000 in a straight line
@@senadhasanbasic260more like 1230, and it's something like 600kg heavier, maybe even more considering demon didn't have it's seats. It is impressive.
@@M4st3rm1nd_01 1230whp vs maybe 900, Rwd vs Awd on a short straight line. Everyone would bet on the 1200hp car without even seeing both
Please just make the Sapphire Vs Rimac drag race, literally NOBODY has done that.
The Rimac Nevera with its 1914hp and a lighter weight would win the race. That's a super beast priced at more than $1M.
@@pierrojulesBecause from the Plaid vs the Rimac, the Plaid won the 0-60mph but the Rimac later on catches up.
@@UnknownEmber-fc5vdCatches up? It literally destroyed the Plaid.
@@bjornar9026 Still, it catches up….
@@pierrojules Rimac Nevera starts at 2.2m
They are putting up a new Walmart in the gap between the Lucid and the Demon!
Best comment ever 🤣🤣🤣
@@michaelronneseth801 🤣🤣🤣
Bwahahaha!!! 😂🤣😂 Superb comment!!
All I see is two American cars pulling insane numbers for street cars.
Both with warranties
And the Saphire is even fast in the street. More wheel drive is more better.😊
Street car for 250k. Uhuh
Yea but the founder of lucid is 3 china guy!!😂
@@person5684 250k which is quicker than 2-million-dollar hypercars while carrying 4 passengers with luxury.
So refreshing to see people not hating on the Sapphire just because it’s an EV. Makes me very happy people can just appreciate both cars for how insane they both are!
the sapphire stock with full interior and ventilated seats puts down 9.0, every time. i want one!
The new Tesla Model S will be faster
@@speedracerjeff And will fall apart on the way to the strip
@@speedracerjeff Low IQ if u believe that
You have $160,000? You can have one.
@@speedracerjeffYou appear to be suffering from TDS, in this case Tesla Derangement Syndrome.
Bro keep fllexing his arms when launch like mf 😂
Nah.
@@montreauxs Brooks is jacked!
Yoked
@@cleverusernamecl5532 Brooks is tiny. lol
Consistency wins. It is amazing how little effort the Lucid takes to run 9.0. So many of the Demon 170s are breaking or just not performing like they should. The Lucid just dead hooks and goes.
Dude, it's awd. The only way it doesn't run as advertised is if it flies apart. Just compare the contact footprint of the drive wheels of both vehicles
@@chadd587 precisely my point. Any high HP AWD EV is going to beat the Demon because RWD just won’t hook consistently.
@@LearningFast oh you were just stating the obvious. I thought you didn't understand why one required zero effort and the other requires 110% of your skill.
@@LearningFast If you did notice. The Demon driver was very consistent with his 9.6 passes.
Exactly. Why are people still surprised that AWD EV’s are fast. It’s super simple actually b
I’m going to comment before watching with my prediction. I’ll predict the Dodge Demon 170 gets slaughtered in every race it runs. These cars must have the stars align, race gas, most perfect of surface prep, perfectly warm tires, etc etc etc to get close to a Plaid or the Sapphire. I may eat my words but I suspect the Sapphire will perform consistently like last vid and the Demon will be fast but no where close. I hope it at least runs in the 9s otherwise it should drive away in shame.
That's EXACTLY what I said. Glad to see someone else with the exact same sentiments when it comes to the 170
@@_ph4nt0mzz_47the 170 is barely faster than they claimed the standard Demon was! 😂
And the comments will be like "But my Uncle's Cousin's Roommate got an 8.99 with a bone stock Demon"
When you have to take the seats out you know there's a problem. 😅
Yea what happens when you race 4wd drive cars..
What happens when they actually race another 1000bhp 4wd ice car..
Game over
Got 800bhp M3s running 8.5s
🚦Pick your poison ⛽️or 🔋 but Consistency wins the race every time…Kudos to both guys giving us the race we have been waiting for 😎🇺🇸
Amen brother those EVs are dead consistent
Demon markups dripping even quicker now
Wow, can barely call that a race. The Sapphire is crazy!
So is the price.
Its a monster
Cheaper that the majority of super cars @@dalehood1846
@@dalehood1846 luxury car.
@@dalehood1846In that case, don’t look at Bugattis price! You might pass out.
“Hey honey, I’m just gonna run and grab some groceries and make a quick pass at the track” 🤯
The combustion engine is dinosaur technology... literally
Sooo.... Slicka, skinny fronts, racing fuel, stripped out interior and I still gets its ass kicked. Times have changed boys and girls. The king is dead. Long live the King
I have yet to see a dodge do the claimed times on the quarter mile 😂
Oh but there are so many dodge people that say almost everyones 170 has run in the 8's! Hahaha They're all full of shit.
Brooks drove right out of that 170's life!
That 170 is a one purpose built car and it can't even do that one thing right!
Absolutely beautiful video!
@@tomrynkewicz7674 Demonology ran 8.9 seconds move along now vaxxie. You vote left and are probably scared of guns and don't own any. Typical EV driving liberal.
The guy in the demon told brooks what he ran...... on the return road 💀
This ain’t the 2018 demon bruh I’ve seen alot
Look at how far EVs have come in such a short period of time. Crazy that EVs already going 8-9sec!
It's just as expected. Instant torque, awd.
EV's existed before ice cars, so they have had a long time to develop.
@@AndrewTSq ok MAINSTREAM EVs lol
@@AndrewTSq except that EVs were abandoned over a hundred years ago and spent most of the last century not being developed. The real performance development only began in the last 25 years or so, when the people who founded Tesla had the brilliant idea of stuffing laptop batteries into a car.
@@beanapprentice1687He can’t think that deep bro.
Sick! I absolutely love that Sapphire. It's just so classy and FAST. Gotta love the whine of that Supercharger on the Demon thought! Awesome stuff!!
But the Sapphire sounds like a spaceship. That's cool.
Sapphire vs Rimac
Rimac win not even close
@Smzxe would be the closest rivalry the Nevera had, tho... both cars run 8's..
@@JappaKneads closest rivalry is Chiron Supersport both run 8.9 9.0 9.1
Chiron SS can actually run 8.7 on Prepped surface
Even with Massive wheelslip going sideways Chiron SS runs 9.2 9.3 and it launched better than Rimac Nevera off the line
@@Smzxein which parallel universe? The Rimac's 1/4 mile record time is 8.26 secs. 0-60 1.74 secs... Still a romp by any measure...
@@JappaKneads and the mcmurty speirling pure ev runs 7.9@150mph and 0-60mph in just 1.4s on a none prepped surface.
Where will it stop I wonder? The rumored air gas thruster equipped gen2 tesla roadster doing a 1s flat 0-60mph? 😀👍🏻
I miss seeing the 765LT at the dragstrip.
Agreed!
Cry
@@Matriarchy_Feminismwhy so salty?
@@alim7502 Cry more
SF90 sent it to the grave.
On stock street tires. Versus full drag radials. Damn.
Sapphire is top of the line. A 250K luxury machine. Bad ass.
That moment when a Demon is so damn slow you can just give them the hit and it's still Gapplebees
Your relentless effort and humble demeanor inspire us all. Congratulations
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This is nuts how fast this Lucid is. Family car they say 😄
Great video, as always! and I love the motormatchup simulator!
Demon was just EXORCISED!
That is best looking electric car on the road today.
Rimac looks better.
After seeing the 170 losing to the plaid I’m not surprised with this outcome
That orange 170 had engine issues right out of the factory. It was trapping 8mph slower than normal 170’s. It’s currently in the shop for lots metal shavings in the oil.
@@sstevocamaroAlways a excuse with joke 170s!
@@sstevocamaro😂😂
This Demon 170 had 1 seat, lighter wheels and taller 315 55 17 tires. I'm surprised it ran that slow, it never stood a chance but it should have ran faster.
@@stevendavis6157It did indeed have problems
Luckily demonology’s demon was fine and gapped a plaid
I like both these cars but the reality here is after the Demon failed to impress 'again' it probably got loaded on a trailer for the drive home. The Lucid owner could have taken some of the crew home then called past Costco to pick up a few things. As fast hassle free daily drivers these EV's really are the kings, but I wouldn't want to see them totally take over the drag strips.
Good video, the outcome was as expected though.
the fact that it was still pulling away at the end is the most impressive part. And all in luxury too
I wouldn't have even bet on this race. That sapphire is insane.
I'm so happy to see that over priced boat get it's butt kicked. It looked slow.
It’s a pretty good bet that Lucid and Rivian won’t even be in business in the next few years the way their sales and stock price are tanking.
@@993mike I totally agree with you.I was hoping for lucid tho. They need to make something in the low 40k range, Just maybe they'll do better.
Not bad considering the price difference
thank you for being real about the stats about the demon 170 and why its hard to get into the 8s. the way it launches is crazy!! never thought id live to see the day a dodge challenger will be doing 0-60 in 1.7 seconds ahah what a rush! the chiron ss vs nevera video would be sweet! and would be awesome to see brooks back with his demon 170 again.
Yes, love this race!🙌
The results are no surprise here..
No kidding. Why are people acting like this is surprising. You can make an EV just about as fast as you want to.
Well we all know what the result is going to be 😅
The Lucid Sapphire is amazingly quick but, at $250,000.00 I’m way out of contention. There’s no chance against the immediate torque availability of the electric motors. I can’t wait to see if technology is able to come up with way lighter batteries and maintain the range availability. The whine of the 170 supercharger is something to behold for sure. That 10 m.p.h. speed difference at the end of the race is hard to overcome. When I was a kid in the early 50’s, my Dad told me how quick the Toronto electric street cars were. He said lots of cars would try to beat them away from the lights at intersections and failed. That only happened if the street cars were empty and heading back to the car barn. That’s 70 years ago.
Thanks Brooks that was a really fun contest! Apart from the launch, it's very clear that the Sapphire is just a faster car. Most impressive to me is how nice a car it is and so simple to drive.
I know Dodge worked hard on the Demon but it just can't overcome the weaknesses of ICE technology in this application.
Another new Dodge another loss
That Sapphire sent that demon to hell...
😂
It should for $250k
@@Gdesign959 a luxury car vs a purpose built dragstripcar. lol
So what it’s double the cost it should do everything better.
@@Gdesign959 🙄🤦♂️
Lucid is very impressive for sure. That said, 9.0 at 150+ and absolutely no safety equipment or even a helmet?
Does this track allow fast evs (under 10s 1/4 mile) during regular events or is this a private event? Can’t figure out where to bring my model X plaid so I can try it
If it's an NHRA track, yes. No roll cage, competition license or parachute required for 9 second, 150+mph EVs. But they might not like an 8 second Lucid Sapphire pass and the one in this video has already run 8.93. Better learn the art of sandbagging. Your Plaid won't be a problem.
@@cll1639 thank you for the response
@@cll1639no sandbagging needed on normal test and tune nights. And all the normal drivers of the sapphire have NHRA licenses. So far no issues besides being asked to wear full fire suits.
Yes, you can run your plaid here. I would bring a helmet, fire jacket and pants which you can pickup for $400-$500. We regularly run this sapphire at test and tune nights here.
@@ThatBoostedBro thank you. Are there certain times that require the pants and jacket? I thought that was if you are in 8’s like the sapphire
people needed this ,,bc those dodge fans are nuts
Are you suggesting that they DODGE reality???...
Dodge fans are the andrew tate fans of the car community
$250k for a car that barely runs 8s is not impressive in the drag racing world lol
How? We don't give 2 fucks bout you trust me
@@polocapolot5772wrong!!! You want attention obviously talking stupid af! We don't care, but if that's what helps you sleep little girl do you
Crazy , how did you get your Lucid in 8s my best time was 9 flat have you changed something !!!!
Asked before if this was even worth watching. Exactly what I expected. The demon had NO SHOT.
Time to put the cat signal in the sky lol Demonology we need you buddy.
Or just give up finally.
Demonology sadly won't stand a chance, Ron Silva would be the best bet.
@@DonnieDorko477or we can just keep building faster gas cars 🤷🏽♂️.
@@kwilliams3161 You mean faster than a literal production drag car with no back seat, slicks, and loud as hell that will likely last 60k miles? Good luck. It’s “fast” and you can’t even get it to perform already. How is a “faster” one going to do any better? 😂. Try to be at least somewhat logical.
@@DonnieDorko477
But... can it actually turn corners?
When the Demon won't even hook up at Bradenton, you know Dodge put too much HP into that shitty, outdated, platform. It's one of the best tracks in the country and still couldn't pull a good 60 foot time.
Takes alot of skill to launch a car, not everybody has that.
@@Rick-fe8xnAgreed, driver just needs more seat time, he'll get it. Lots of keyboard warriors think getting a 1k hp rwd to 60' is easy.
@@gregmatson1470 My last car was a redeye Hellcat and with 200 less hp, it's still not easy especially with the stock tires. Regardless of what settings you use, 1st gear is so low that as the tires spin, the rev limiter kills the run before you even have time to short-shift it into 2nd gear. Any of the Hellcats/Demons are useless below 60mph without a proper set of drag radials and some suspension mods (like stronger rear lower control arms) to limit wheel hop.
It's all a matter of what you like - the Sapphire is beautiful, consistently lightning-quick and consistent but it's a quarter of a million bucks and it has no soul, just a muted whirr. The 170 is simply America's ultimate (and one of the last remaining) old-school musclecar with all the soul in the world. It's just not as quick. But still, mid 9s and mid 140s in the 1/4 mile ain't exactly doggy.
So what we learned here was a 1,234 HP car beats a 1,025 HP car AND a $250K car beats a $115K car, absolutely NO questions on who was going to win in a straight line.
I’m not a fan of EVs but they’re fast as hell. I have a terminator cobra with 800hp and it’s crazy watching that EV pull away from the demon. Impressed.
Not surprised the demon 170 is the cheapest though
MSRP $250,000
@@Smzxethat's dealer markups that's not msrp
Lucid air shappire vs Bugatti chiron drag and roll race will be interesting.
Chiron has no chance in a drag. Maybe a roll race though
video starts at 4:27
Upvote for petroleum distillates. Road trips. Quicker refueling. Tried and true. EV is great in many categories. I still choose gas. Great vid!
I generally do not like EV’e and never really have, not even the plaid, but something about that lucid 😍
When *acidity* marries sexy-cute and had a child...
I agree. As far as EV cars goes, give me the RIMAC, LUCID Sapphire or the AUDI E-tron RS (the fastest model).
To me, those three are the only EV's I would consider; all other EV's out there are just ugly and a hard pass from me - regardless how quick they are.
Although... the new Hyundai IONIQ 5 R is growing on me😊
@@vette-air911turbos3 You have horrible taste. Must be a Joe Biden voting American. He is a bad choice also.
*DEMON:* Dude I almost had you.
*SAPPHIRE:* You almost had me?? You never had me. You never had your car. It doesn't matter if you win by an inch or a mile. Winning's winning.
Seems the PLAID is a closer race! BTW the Mustang electric Cobra Jet 1800 just made the fastest production type electric car pass at a 7.75 @ 180 MPH ...Faster than the single seat McMurtry that had done a 7.97!!!!
When does yours arrive? 10:16
You need to race that Lucid against one of those old Cobra Jets!
Yeah but these fool ev fanboys have no idea what that is, they're too busy trolling and don't know shit about cars
Cobra Jets have recorded times in the 7s. No chance for the Sapphire. Brooks was running this one at 9 sec.
@@brownro214 That's exactly why I would like to see it!!
And I will still never buy an electric car, some lil gamer kid will end up hacking that car and controlling it. 😂😂😂 naw I’m good
The demon is 90% electronics too 😂
Wanna see the Mach E Vaughn and Ken Built against them.
Get "Demonology" to race it.
Race Demonology already. Stop racing these rookies. 😂 At least we’ll get a better race when Demonology is on the track. 💯
Lol he intentionally always races the slowest drivers so EVs look better 😂
Facts!! Demonology has already knocked the plaid s out, so he has to race the sapphire for sure
@@Rick-fe8xn Facts! Demonology spanked the Plaid on the stock demon 170 17inch slicks. Didn’t even do a 15inch conversion and walked the plaid. He can probably get a 9.0 or better if he put the 15s on it.
That was so satisfying to watch.
Absolutely😄😄😄😄😄😄‼
That silly thing got 200 more HP, more electric torque, AWD but wasn't that far ahead lol. Dodge built a RWD monster.
and weighs 1000 more pounds...
Do i need to come to Florida😈😈😈
You absolutely need to come to Florida to show these guys how it's done! You need to take that Sapphires soul!
@@72442conv 😂😂😂 no the gap is to wide on this one. Saphire will win 100%. 😅😅😅
Please do, and make sure you bring some nitrous, you're going to need it
Mopar or no car
You will get GAPTIZED demonology. And that's even with your car not being stock......
Where’s demonology when we need him 😭
Hiding
@@DragTimes 🤣
With his not so stock 170 claiming its stock and running 8.9s every time, lol
@@TB-vb3ov He’s the kind of guy to motor swap his car and not mention it to anybody lol
The speed of those new electric cars are mind boggling! Wow 😮😮😮
Don't be suppose the Demon built boost right before the launch ??
Waiting for: “yeah but it makes no noise, is just an appliance, only good in straight line, depreciates like a mofo, no laughing when the battery fails…”
Fake news excuses
You sound extra goofy! All vehicles are pretty much appliances, not only that most drag strip vehicles aren't very good on a racetrack.
Unless you have stock in petroleum what the hell are you crying for?
@@mjareacts2731 sarcasm never comes though on CZcams…
The sapphire is faster but Im keeping my modified hellcat .It’s not like I see sapphires everyday so I’ll just stick to gapping teslas I see daily .
They think they can afford the battery till they get hit with that bill or they dump the car on a lease to avoid that. My gas car I can swap and change shit all day for a fraction and enjoy a car that doesn't babysit me
Dodge fanboys: 😭😭😭
Until we pulley and sprayed, can you mod your stupid electric car?, 1025 vs 1234, cool hater.
@@alexiegomez1691 found the crybaby 😀😭
ОБЛЕГЧИТЬ ДЕМОН ЕЩЕ НА 500 КГ. И ЗАНИЗИТЬ ПЕРЕДОК ДЛЯ АЭРОДИНАМИЧЕСКОГО НИЖНЕГО КЛИНА.
LIGHTEN THE DEMON BY ANOTHER 500 KG. AND LOWER THE FRONT FOR AN AERODYNAMIC LOWER WEDGE.
Ev haters crying in the corner right now😢
WAAHHHH!!...
Now crying dodge fans incoming
The one feet roll out was crazy, to claim 0-60 in 1.66 sec lol
@@thatparticulargame6001 1.66 is totally fake. it's 2.1 seconds at best
If they really had done that they will show vbox data or time slips
They showed literally nothing
I'm a fan of cars in general. The Demon 170 was impressive to me. It has more than 200 horsepower less.
We've allowed politicians to tell us what type of new cars we can buy. How sad !
Not really, dodge can use a 3000hp ttviper and leave that microwave in its dust
@@dirtbagliberalsnake5729 why need 3000 HP viper?
Dragster will dust that viper so easily
I would take the Demon 170 any day in the week. Not having a engine sound takes away more than half of the sensation for me. I also like that the Demon needs a good driver to get a good result, where my grandma can sit in the EV and do almost the same time after time.
From what I'm seeing at the track and on U-Tube. The Demon 170 doesn't appear to be the same Challenger performance car Dodge introduced since most are running in the mid to low 9s instead of Dodge's advertised 8.91 quarter mile time. Now I'm reading they're having power train issues.
8.91 is what the engineers say is the best possible in the Demon.
That means it has to be spec’d correctly. Carbon fiber wheels, single seat, no leather. Most will be low 9 second cars.
Yea like blowing up
8.91 1/5 mile
Another POS Dodge
Oh what do you drive??? Is it in the caliber of anything in this video???? If not shut it up!
Any estimates on how much quicker the Lucid would go if mounted with Toyo R888's?
8.88-8.91
no spinning in these races, tires won't help unless unless they are put on smaller lighter wheels...
It's so funny how you're reaction & the way you drive on the pulls. If i didn't know what you were driving i would think it was some pro stock car. LOL
That Lucid just absolutely embarasses the Demon, and that's a crazy fast car.
LET'S GOOOOOOOOOO LUCID🏆🏁 SAPPHIRE WOOHOO!🙋♂️😁🥳🥳🥳🎉🎉🎉🎉🕺🕺🫡💯
That Demon was absolutely destroyed.
Apples vs Oranges. At this point an EV with AWD will give almost every ICE car fits.. But 250k? Woah.
That Lucid is really nice.
No contest. Wow!
Saphire its nuts. But the EV fans roastin the 170 are weird, like who is surprised a gas car with less power, less torque, weaker power band, and only 2WD lost? I wonder what it would do with 1200hp... 🧐
Exactly. Of course the Lucid is nuts. It’s no big accomplishment when most net is no issue. And if I had both I would be grabbing the keys to the Demon every Saturday night.
This guy is the biggest EV glazer
A gas car lifting off after takeoff use to look cool but now it looks dumb especially when the electric car takes off so smoothly and leaves it in the dust.
That freaking Lucid is truly a monster!
Dragtimes Awesome Video I knew the Lucid Air Sapphire would win although I would take that Absolutely Gorgeous and Incredible Demon 170 anyday and I can't wait to see Demonlogy wipe the floor
That demon owners launch reaction time sucks
It would help if the Demon 170 driver knew that green means go. I guess he thought he needed someone to tell him to go.
Both are insanely fast no matter which way you slice it, but for some bigger picture perspective, I would suggest you go to the Doug De Muro channel to see the latest commentary about his Countach. It's the 375hp model, not even the more powerful 5.2 litre downdraught QV with 455 hp. He said SPEED is so accessible now, it's no longer reserved for a handful of cars like it was in the 70's or 80's, now, the big differentiator, is driver experience. The experience of the Countach is unparalleled and no EV no matter how fast in a quarter will excite the senses in the way that Lambo does.
Now people understand why the next Dodge Charger top tim will be a 1,300 HP EV.
Dont forget that lucid has a full interior with all the creature comforts and practicality and 4 seats!! The power of EVs are insane
I think the sapphire makes around 1420whp even though it’s only 1234 claimed hp
670hp x 3, de-rated to 1234hp for brake and tyre to cope.
This four door family sedan is the king of the streets haha. I test drove a Lucid Air Touring (620 hp) and it was super fast so I can only imagine what this is like
I generally hate electric cars for daily use. However, the one area where they clearly dominate is acceleration from a stop.