EXCLUSIVE 992 GT3 RS vs Corvette Z06 vs BMW M4 CSL w/ Randy Pobst - Cammisa’s Ultimate Lap Battle

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  • Randy Pobst races the 2023 Porsche 911 GT3 RS (992) against the 2023 Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C8) with Z07 package against the 2023 BMW M4 CSL (G82) - three road-legal track-special models - at Big Willow!
    In this world's first test of the 992 GT3 RS, SCCA Hall of Fame race-car driver Randy Pobst delivers the definitive Willow Springs lap times for each of these cars, and automotive journalist Jason Cammisa narrates Randy's laps using time-warp and slow-motion techniques to slow the action for our deep-dive enjoyment.
    Click here for the Corvette E-Ray drag race Jason mentioned:
    • How fast is the Corvet...
    WILLOW SPRINGS LAP TIMES
    Porsche 911 GT3 RS (992) 1:24.3
    Chevy Corvette Z06 Z07 (C8) 1:24.9
    BMW M4 CSL (G82) 1:28.2*
    Driver: Randy Pobst (Sub-freezing temperatures)
    *On base Michelin Pilot Sport 4S tires rather than optional Cup 2R rubber
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    CHAPTERS:
    0:00 Introduction
    0:50 3 Randy Pobsts!
    1:44 World Exclusive: Porsche 911 GT3 RS (992)
    3:05 C8 Corvette Z06 w/ Z07
    4:01 G82 BMW M4 CSL
    5:24 3-car Race!
    5:56 Turn 1- BMW is fastest, Porsche brakes best
    7:25 Turn 2 - Z06 feels great, Porsche grips!
    8:50 Turn 3 - Z06 doesn't stop, 911 understeers!
    10:10 Turn 4 & 5 - BMW is a handful, Z06 is unruly
    10:57 Turn 6 - GT3 RS is perfect over the jump
    11:50 Willow's Back Straight & Turn 7
    12:26 Turn 8 - Entering at 145 mph
    13:12 Pulling 1.3g at 130 mph for 17 seconds and 0.6 mile!
    14:25 Turn 9 - Z06 is right behind the 911 GT3 RS!
    15:14 Porsche wins!
    15:22 Laptime Leaderboard
    16:33 Conclusion: Slowest Car Wins!
    ===
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  • @saksris2
    @saksris2 Před rokem +6790

    Quality of Hagarty content is just world class!

    • @chuckgrenci6404
      @chuckgrenci6404 Před rokem +36

      You had me at Jason and Randy.👌

    • @117johnpar
      @117johnpar Před rokem +23

      It always comes off that everyone involved with the video had the most fun they could have making it. From editing, to driving, to Cammisa'ing

    • @robertshelton3796
      @robertshelton3796 Před rokem +34

      Yo, Hagerty, will you please give us a making of of one of these

    • @aadilfaizal853
      @aadilfaizal853 Před rokem +1

      Hats off

    • @brandonchism6960
      @brandonchism6960 Před rokem +13

      @@robertshelton3796 you’re on to something man!!! I’d love to see a behind the scenes. I’m sure it’s a pain in the ass for the crew though.

  • @hreeman
    @hreeman Před rokem +1501

    This is hands down the most interesting one-lap coverage ever made in any media. Nerdy, funny, informative, and attention-holding. I don’t think anyone else has gotten that combo right. Hats off to Jason, Anthony, Randy and crew. This is a moment which’ll go down in history

    • @cooperastro2690
      @cooperastro2690 Před rokem +7

      Couldn't have said it better

    • @FrancoisTCS
      @FrancoisTCS Před rokem +4

      Agree 500%!!

    • @randypobstofficial
      @randypobstofficial Před rokem +34

      Thanks so much, Hreeman, I’m so lucky to be a part of these fantastic shows!

    • @lascucristian9531
      @lascucristian9531 Před rokem +1

      On point explanation of the same thing I wanted to outline. Felt totally in the middle of the action 😮

    • @NWSanta
      @NWSanta Před rokem +2

      It's such a well fit cast with some amazing editing, camera footage, chase cars, special effects. It's all really well done!

  • @mndlessdrwer
    @mndlessdrwer Před 6 měsíci +174

    The people they have doing the videography are ridiculously skilled. This was a real feast for the eyes and all of those references to Randy racing himself were really necessary to remind us that this was composite footage and the video editors really are just that talented.

  • @alexgreen2747
    @alexgreen2747 Před 11 měsíci +710

    Epic work, team. The fact a Corvette can just about keep up with a GT3RS these days is insane.

    • @conchobar
      @conchobar Před 11 měsíci +73

      And thats the Z06, not the ZR-1.

    • @jojajo2707
      @jojajo2707 Před 11 měsíci +50

      It's slower even with 145hp more and z07 carbon trackpackage.

    • @kris54241
      @kris54241 Před 11 měsíci +118

      @@jojajo2707 And still literally half the price... 922 gt3rs is 250k base plus options... the Z06 is 105k plus maybe 15-20k in options. So pretty remarkable for the Corvette.

    • @jojajo2707
      @jojajo2707 Před 11 měsíci +41

      @@kris54241 we talkbabout performance, not price tag. The Porsche is an investment like all gt 3 or gt2. A vette isn't, maby the Super old one like C1 or C2.

    • @kris54241
      @kris54241 Před 11 měsíci +106

      @@jojajo2707 I'll add to this... Since it's only about performance and not price tag..and it's an "investment". Then why would I bother with a 992? I'll get a Bugatti, or a Lambo, or Ferrari. Your comment is idiotic. Price to performance is a real thing. 😂🤡

  • @northridgenation
    @northridgenation Před rokem +851

    It's a good day when a Jason Cammisa episode launches!

  • @Whomecouldntb3
    @Whomecouldntb3 Před rokem +509

    The explanation of each corner and what each car was doing or how it felt during the corner was so dope.

    • @maldridge7630
      @maldridge7630 Před 11 měsíci

      "dope"? are you a drug addict?

    • @993mike
      @993mike Před 11 měsíci +2

      The GT3’s power disadvantage but still doing the faster time really is enlightening. I see newer guys all the time on track and club racing days who always think power equates to better lap times - it most certainly is not the biggest factor

  • @_ButtarSaab_
    @_ButtarSaab_ Před 8 měsíci +76

    I'm curious to see how the CSL would fare on the optional Cup 2 tires compared to the stock MP4S it had in the video.

    • @TechnicaEnterprise
      @TechnicaEnterprise Před 3 měsíci +5

      and a massive wing like the 2 cars - im sure with similar aero downforce, the CSL would have been about .2 - .3 behind the Corvette, or right with it. the GT3RS is a track focused car to begin with.

    • @patthonsirilim5739
      @patthonsirilim5739 Před 3 měsíci +2

      cut about 2-3 seconds from it laptime it should be roughly about the same a the corvette or slightly slower.

    • @yayaya1193able
      @yayaya1193able Před 3 měsíci +1

      I’m sure it would fair better but the csl is like $150k, and you can buy it right now for that price. The gt3rs are going for $500k + right now. Awsome video but the price point of the cars is so far apart I don’t know why they didn’t include a not expensive car to even it out.

    • @michaelblaes9847
      @michaelblaes9847 Před 3 měsíci +1

      I would be far more interested if they didn't do this with such a huge temperature difference. They would have both been 3 seconds faster without that difference. Why do they film on days they know will have a huge effect on the performance?

    • @lft4ded
      @lft4ded Před 3 měsíci

      ​@@michaelblaes9847 But why not? You don't always get to pick your race days and the weather is ever changing. Plus, with these three cars who can wait to race to them. They can always run it back on a warmer days and that's more great content for us. 👍🏾

  • @gvs376
    @gvs376 Před 9 měsíci +8

    So, you'll need to spend an extra $108,000 to gain a 6/10 second advantage over the Z06 at Willow Springs. That's $18,000 for every TENTH of a second. And it's probably more like a $150,000 difference with all the typical Porsche options. Completely insane!

    • @Hankynopanky
      @Hankynopanky Před měsícem +1

      😂 true , but the GT3 RS will also appreciate in value like crazy wouldn’t it ?

    • @rodmunch69
      @rodmunch69 Před 2 dny +1

      @@Hankynopanky some people want to drive their cars, not put them in their garage for 30-years. Nothing wrong with that, seriously, but the Vette might be 'this close' to being affordable for someone in the upper side of middle class, who wants a daily driver that is fun as hell to drive and to take to the track. Where as the Porsche, that's literally just a track day car that will be rarely driven - and is built for those who collect cars and rarely drive them. Again, nothing wrong with that, people can spend their money however they want, but they're really not aimed at the same market.

  • @FaresDjebbar
    @FaresDjebbar Před rokem +573

    The fact that Only one driver is driving the three cars, and how they're composited together is insane, the camera movements...Jason being there at the track... World class.

    • @stevenwilliams1805
      @stevenwilliams1805 Před rokem +25

      Yeah it's some really trick cinematography and editing.

    • @rdiamond655
      @rdiamond655 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Love this video, I hope it is now going to be a series. Better than the CUDRR in my opinion

    • @robertper4102
      @robertper4102 Před 11 měsíci +8

      I've been doing a deep dive into how they might have pulled it off. I really think it's all practical. The cars just idling along the track and Jason delivering lines. If look before everyone of those shots with him and the cars on track, The preceeding shot does a speed ramp and give us the felling of a slow mo shot. Fooling us into thinking the cars are shot separately in slo mo but in reality they are just moving really slow. If you look around the 8:30 mark you see it not Randy driving the Vette.

    • @robertper4102
      @robertper4102 Před 11 měsíci

      I've been doing a deep dive into how they might have pulled it off. I really think it's all practical. The cars just idling along the track and Jason delivering lines. If look before everyone of those shots with him and the cars on track, The preceeding shot does a speed ramp and give us the felling of a slow mo shot. Fooling us into thinking the cars are shot separately in slo mo but in reality they are just moving really slow. If you look around the 8:30 mark you see it not Randy driving the Vette.

  • @deang8910
    @deang8910 Před rokem +441

    I like how they turned a 1:24 lap into a 15 minute race break down 😂

    • @joeracer302
      @joeracer302 Před rokem +7

      You might enjoy Allan McNish’s narration/explanation of a lap at Le Mans, it’s from the documentary Truth in 24, but you can find the ~3min clip on CZcams.

    • @tsriftsal3581
      @tsriftsal3581 Před rokem +3

      A little like an NFL game. :)

    • @johnd5805
      @johnd5805 Před rokem +1

      yea yea

    • @shaykosovac8722
      @shaykosovac8722 Před rokem

      Analysis

  • @craigthescott5074
    @craigthescott5074 Před 8 měsíci +3

    The fact that the C8 Z06 is much less expensive than both of these cars is a win in itself. When the ZR1 comes out nothing will beat it for the money.

    • @rodmunch69
      @rodmunch69 Před 2 dny +1

      I've owned two Corvettes, and three BMW 4-series - and frankly it's amazing they can tune the 4-series chassis to the point that it can stay in the same ball park as these two. I will say, however, the 4-series is a fantastic handling car for its size, very precise, but I'd never think in a million years it could be tuned to this point as the Vette is so much lower to the ground and you're in much more of a sports car driver position. Some amazing engineering going on. If you could have just one of the two, it would be tough to choose if the price gap wasn't there.

    • @craigthescott5074
      @craigthescott5074 Před 18 hodinami +1

      @@rodmunch69 I agree with you completely but I’ve always been a Corvette guy. I’ve owned 8 total I still own 5!! For me the Vette especially the Z06 has no rival for cost for performance. Plus I can work on them. I would be lost if I had a BMW.

  • @IndieRockability1
    @IndieRockability1 Před 11 měsíci +83

    Hagerty taking CZcams by storm there are no words for the insane amount of editing and production of these videos, not to mention the amazing cast.

  • @joshuafoster1772
    @joshuafoster1772 Před rokem +617

    Randy is such a humble guy that I forget how talented of a driver he really is.

    • @oaktree6333
      @oaktree6333 Před rokem +10

      Randy is a boss the BIGGEST BOSS!

    • @ziggyfreud5357
      @ziggyfreud5357 Před rokem +2

      Totally

    • @CaribbeanGTR
      @CaribbeanGTR Před rokem +5

      These two make a great team. I used to really miss Top Gear with Clarkson and his two Musketeers, but honestly, the tech and humor here are just as entertaining.

    • @elektrofunkzz
      @elektrofunkzz Před rokem

      ​@@oaktree6333 the FINAL BOSS

    • @chrism869
      @chrism869 Před 7 měsíci

      indeed

  • @Luke-cb3ly
    @Luke-cb3ly Před rokem +1077

    the editing is insane. watching Randy and Adam Sandler doing what they do best is always satisfying.

  • @Counz223
    @Counz223 Před 11 měsíci +22

    The quality here is stupidly fantastic.. what a production and such amazing cars. The explanation of these corners makes me feel like even I could set a good time in the GT3 RS 😂

  • @sibis4608
    @sibis4608 Před 11 měsíci +10

    Man the editing! Between the switching of the cars and switching Randy's, I have no words to express the joy of watching this for free on CZcams

  • @papawoody9597
    @papawoody9597 Před rokem +602

    Randy is a national treasure. Crazy talented behind the wheel, and a genuinely nice guy.

    • @ucrain4971
      @ucrain4971 Před rokem +5

      Ngl he's kinda boring and you are over glorifying his driving

    • @nucleargrizzly1776
      @nucleargrizzly1776 Před rokem +31

      @@ucrain4971 How many course records do you hold?

    • @hellothere4342
      @hellothere4342 Před rokem +7

      ​@ucrain4971 can you drive as fast let alone consistently fast?

    • @papawoody9597
      @papawoody9597 Před rokem +25

      @@ucrain4971 Your comment might have some value if I had said anything about him being charismatic. But I didn't, so it doesn't.
      I met him in Indy in 2014. He noticed my Brumos Racing t shirt, and stood and talked with me for a good 20 minutes. He was driving the Muehlner Motorsports Porsche in GTD, the car had a mechanical issue and didn't take the grid. That's about as shitty a weekend as you can have as a driver, outside of wadding up a car, and he was still out talking to fans, taking pictures, and signing autographs. As I did in fact say, he's a nice guy.
      As for his driving, when you've won the 24 hours of Daytona twice, been a factory driver for Porsche and Audi, and content creators reach out to you to evaluate cars, maybe I'll give a rat's ass about your opinion. Until then, ngl, I really don't.

    • @robertlazimbat5943
      @robertlazimbat5943 Před rokem +6

      @@ucrain4971 you’re lost if you think you’ll ever be a quarter as good as he is. If u want to say he’s boring then maybe he’s not you’re cup of tee but he’s a great driver. Greater than you’ll ever wish to be

  • @philspaghet
    @philspaghet Před rokem +582

    Holy crap THIS is the kind of content I wish the big car magazines would cover! Not just going over lap times but the differences in sector speed and the characteristics of the track! Gotta say the CSL really impressed me here!

    • @porschelover04
      @porschelover04 Před rokem +15

      Wish we could've seen Cup 2R's and warm weather. Seeing it below the CT5V-B on that leaderboard is just plain wrong.

    • @mcfero1
      @mcfero1 Před rokem

      They’re busy pushing Ev’s down our throats.

    • @JordonPatrickMears11211988
      @JordonPatrickMears11211988 Před 11 měsíci +1

      Gran turismo needs to team up with these guys for the next game or do a dlc. Hell I'd pay good money if it meant supporting the channel too.

    • @stavroshadjiyiannis6283
      @stavroshadjiyiannis6283 Před 11 měsíci +2

      The BMW's time would have been a hell of a lot closer to the other 2 with proper tires.

    • @lizparks1662
      @lizparks1662 Před 10 měsíci +2

      Wtf is impressive about it? It's over 100k and got smacked

  • @dan725
    @dan725 Před 11 měsíci +29

    Why doesn’t this have over a million views? The production, the hosts, the explanations are all supremely high quality that tops any other car media team in the world.

    • @DiaperSNiFFER
      @DiaperSNiFFER Před 10 měsíci +3

      It does now this channel is absolutely 💯 amazing

    • @discomau5
      @discomau5 Před 10 měsíci +2

      I wanted to say the exact same thing😂😂😂😂

    • @biggrock2396
      @biggrock2396 Před 9 měsíci +3

      It does now, good things come to those who wait

    • @viktorbihar5384
      @viktorbihar5384 Před 2 měsíci

      Probably people that assume he has a bias towards certain brands. Don't get me wrong, I think he likes German cars better, but even I don't know, and even I am making assumptions right now, lol.

  • @infidel900rr
    @infidel900rr Před 9 měsíci +13

    Jason and Randy are great together! 👍 Outstanding production!! thank you.

  • @GTSCarLife
    @GTSCarLife Před rokem +712

    Hagerty, Jason and Randy just continue to raise the bar. What an outstanding way to demonstrate the differences between these fantastic machines. Bravo!

    • @DFWreal
      @DFWreal Před rokem +3

      Well said!

    • @DFWreal
      @DFWreal Před rokem +2

      Dude, just checked out your channel. Nice work, informative and different from the rest. Keep at it!

    • @MTechn1k
      @MTechn1k Před 11 měsíci +2

      I have to give credit to Motor Trend for starting this off. But hats off and major applause to Hagerty for taking it over, and taking it to the next level.

  • @carscoffeeandcannabis-634
    @carscoffeeandcannabis-634 Před rokem +448

    I seriously can't get over how well these videos are edited. Seriously cinematic quality, like, I'd pay to watch these in IMAX. I don't know what we did to deserve this content, but I am so damn happy we get it

    • @randypobstofficial
      @randypobstofficial Před rokem +39

      Thank you so much on behalf of our Hagerty team, and I have to agree. Gist class cinema. Director Anthony Esposito deserves much credit, too, and genius Cammisa.

    • @mitchell-wallisforce7859
      @mitchell-wallisforce7859 Před rokem +2

      Where the heck do they get this music from, though? It's amazing.

    • @jimsteinway695
      @jimsteinway695 Před rokem +1

      I’m glad you guys comment ion the production. I don’t know any better but I learn when you experts talk about things like editing

    • @lavere
      @lavere Před rokem +1

      ​@@randypobstofficial you are an absolute legend! Much love from Canada 🇨🇦

    • @joeypinkard7687
      @joeypinkard7687 Před rokem

      Perfectly put

  • @robcrossan6274
    @robcrossan6274 Před 10 měsíci +13

    The editing is awesome. Also, i love that the Corvette remains a competitive track weapon all this time later. I remember reviews of the C6 Zr1 and of how wild it was, uncontrollable, extremely fast and hunting down far more expensive cars. The C8 Z06 is much more civil and does it with less fuss. Awesome car

  • @Pewnhound112
    @Pewnhound112 Před 6 měsíci +5

    Excellent feature, brilliant editing and videography and Jason’s narration is on point as always. Putting the CSL on what amounts to be one step above all-season tires against two cars on what amounts to be race slicks with some shallow grooves is a gross miscarriage of justice IMO (obviously I’m biased).

  • @bobspacon
    @bobspacon Před rokem +245

    The editing, the storyline, camera views, sound, everything. It's all amazing. Very satisfying to watch.

    • @FrancoisTCS
      @FrancoisTCS Před rokem +1

      Fully agree!! 👌🏼👌🏼

    • @fteoOpty64
      @fteoOpty64 Před rokem +1

      Jason's finest yet!. This is exhilarating!.

  • @Zygrene
    @Zygrene Před rokem +174

    Randy + fast cars + cameras = perfection

  • @mikebridges20
    @mikebridges20 Před 11 měsíci +7

    Absolutely top shelf videography and editing! Cammisa and Stigs 1,2, and 3 were perfect in their roles.

  • @jasonnosaj2099
    @jasonnosaj2099 Před 11 měsíci +2

    I love when the overlay of each car. It really gives you the perspective of the difference in time> Like the ghost laps

  • @biollante879
    @biollante879 Před rokem +238

    Cammisa/Pobst is a winning combo no matter the situation. Adding 3 of the best cars of today are just the cherries on top

    • @cgmoog
      @cgmoog Před rokem +12

      Cammisa/Pobst/Esposito is a winning combo no matter the situation. (fixed it for you)

    • @randypobstofficial
      @randypobstofficial Před rokem +6

      @@cgmoog @Biollante879 director Anthony Esposito is the critical off-screen better half to Jason. Brilliant team. I’m so lucky to ride their coattails.

    • @drivingpsyche
      @drivingpsyche Před rokem

      @@cgmoog and don’t forget to add 2 more Randy’s for more craziness (or headaches to editors of this episode).

  • @5699CAR
    @5699CAR Před 11 měsíci +1177

    The fact that the Z06 kept up with the porsche and was only .6 seconds behind has me really excited to see what they do with the ZR-1

    • @kris54241
      @kris54241 Před 11 měsíci +207

      Pretty remarkable considering the Z06 is literally half the cost... If not even more than that.

    • @willratcliff6111
      @willratcliff6111 Před 11 měsíci +24

      Agreed!

    • @993mike
      @993mike Před 11 měsíci +176

      The Porsche will be able to do this all day. With the reported quality and reliability issues of the new Z06, I’m thinking this car is going to be a headache in comparison. GM truly did make an American McLaren - both the good and the bad

    • @jabariphillips8855
      @jabariphillips8855 Před 11 měsíci +143

      @@993mike The issues with the Z06s will be long sorted out before the next ZR1 is released. And C8 Stingrays launched without any major issues in general either so I wouldn’t compare McLarens reliability issues with Corvettes.

    • @ronretired282
      @ronretired282 Před 11 měsíci +78

      @@jabariphillips8855 This might be good reading for you concerning reliability issues of Porsche vehicles particularly the GT's: "Problems with the 991.1 GT3’s 3.8-liter engine were apparent right from the start. Shortly after the release of the car, Porsche issued a recall for all GT3 models in March 2014. That notice came as a result of loosened screw joints on the connecting rods. The issue ultimately caused two cars to suffer engine fires. Porsche replaced the engine in all 785 GT3s built up until that point, and adjusted the design to prevent further issues. Unfortunately, that wasn’t the last time Porsche recalled the car for engine issues. Just a year later, 12 more GT3 received entirely new engines after a valvetrain issue related to finger followers was discovered". I think most of us car enthusiasts know the story of the GT4 issues.

  • @PurpleGrape15
    @PurpleGrape15 Před 11 měsíci +9

    Even who it took me all of two episodes to realize their slo mo while Jason explains stuff is the cars really just moving at 2 mph as Jason walks around them, it still hits every time 😂

  • @minicooperfan16
    @minicooperfan16 Před 11 měsíci +11

    The amount of detail and depth you were able to add to a simple comparison of lap times is exactly why this channel is one of my favorites on CZcams. Amazing work as always, Jason and team!

  • @vagabond8460
    @vagabond8460 Před rokem +163

    13:45 “Trying to keep up with myself… Now I know what all those other guys were going through at the races all the time..” That has to be the BIGGEST flex ever said

  • @mura0
    @mura0 Před rokem +89

    This is a Porsche 992 GT3 RS level of editing, production you have established here.

    • @Chicken_cocknballsoup7376
      @Chicken_cocknballsoup7376 Před rokem +25

      from now on Porsche will be used as a synonym for perfection

    • @MrBinnie824
      @MrBinnie824 Před rokem +7

      It's got to be a very high bar when the second place (and first loser) is a Z06 with the Z07 pack.

    • @randypobstofficial
      @randypobstofficial Před rokem +9

      @@MrBinnie824 Between us, I think the Vette tires actually froze the night before. The Porsche had far more grip, especially braking on bumps.

    • @MrBinnie824
      @MrBinnie824 Před rokem

      @@randypobstofficial shame, was gonna bet for the Z06 to promptly clean up.

    • @aaronvector4750
      @aaronvector4750 Před rokem +7

      @@MrBinnie824 Lmao the Z06 makes less downforce than the GT3. it's not a GT3 RS competitor.

  • @pennysmurf
    @pennysmurf Před 11 měsíci

    Thank you both. This was one of the best track videos I've ever watched. So educational as well.

  • @speedracer2please
    @speedracer2please Před 11 měsíci +62

    These videos are INCREDIBLE. I normally don't care about "expensive car goes fast" but you really hit it home with the high-end vfx, info, and humor.
    Also if you consider price, I'm pretty proud of the Corvette!

    • @joefries7046
      @joefries7046 Před 11 měsíci

      waiting till the ZR1 comes out...

    • @CalebDiT
      @CalebDiT Před 11 měsíci

      If it's anything like previous Corvettes, they are as unsafe as they are (relatively) affordable.

    • @RandyJM21
      @RandyJM21 Před 9 měsíci +3

      I feel like the corvette is probably a better street car as well , no ? More comforts and compliance etc and less full blown track special even if it is the track special C8 which don't matter for this test but still notable , I have no experience with either but I believe that is the case . One thing I know for sure is the Z is more streetable for grocery getting and GM makes pretty big concessions in design to make sure even the most hardcore car could be your only car and serve as a GT car as well as sports and track . The obvious consolation for Corvette fans butt pain over the loss, is the massive cost difference . Porsche wins as far as confidence and manners as RP states . I guess corvette can claim acceleration which many actual buyers covet even in a car built for turns but it should with the power difference. I would be fine with a non zo7 car for street which is what most buyers should get unless they do in fact track the car , base base C 8 Would be fine although wide body is nice which kinda means, for a lot of regular people who just want to have a cool acceleration tool the E ray is the stoplight street brawler BUT losing the note is a tough sell .

    • @joefries7046
      @joefries7046 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@CalebDiT never heard that about them before

    • @cashmoneycockburn9502
      @cashmoneycockburn9502 Před 7 měsíci

      @@CalebDiTevery sports car is unsafe you better stick to a Prius

  • @zaahidrahman
    @zaahidrahman Před rokem +381

    Hagerty really went out of their way to hire top notch producers, editors and writers. Cammisa and Randy could not be more perfect for their roles in this video as well. Might be the best automotive production team on CZcams. 3k+ glowing comments in the 3 days this video has been up says a lot. Great job, team!

  • @yoker3032
    @yoker3032 Před rokem +154

    Today, my standing ovation to Jason, randy & other member of this team. Hats off sir 👏🏻 🎉🎉

  • @kylegilman6497
    @kylegilman6497 Před 11 měsíci +9

    Jason, this video was fantastic. I absolutely love the camaraderie with Randy. Randy proves over and over again how amazing of a driver all three of him are.
    Side note, imagine the CSL with a wing and the same R compound tires!!! I don’t think it would keep up with the other abbreviations but I think it would close the gap by a lot.
    Keep these videos coming, I’m glad this one found its way into my algorithm. I’m headed to the carmudgeon show channel next!

    • @chrism869
      @chrism869 Před 7 měsíci

      with better areo and tires, it would be a different animal

  • @The.JZA.
    @The.JZA. Před 11 měsíci +6

    I love the way you broke down the track into segments talking about how each car did and where they were relative to each other. Really highlights the phenomenal performance of the GT3.

  • @AronBagel
    @AronBagel Před rokem +150

    Please, please, please make this a travelling series! The deep dive into the track layout is incredibly entertaining, and I would love to see you tackle other racetracks like Laguna Seca, Zandvoort, or Suzuka!

    • @geraldgflem
      @geraldgflem Před rokem

      YES!!!

    • @ilikeexxs
      @ilikeexxs Před rokem

      It's times and videos like this when I miss Laguna seca... I agree, take it on the road, I'd love to see these cars duke it out again and again!

    • @slushyslushslushbruh
      @slushyslushslushbruh Před rokem

      Zandvoort and Suzuka might be an issue, ngl. But if they pull it off, they'll be gods.

    • @Duskconqueror
      @Duskconqueror Před rokem

      ​@@slushyslushslushbruh Nah, they'll be able to get a permit for Zandvoort.

    • @slushyslushslushbruh
      @slushyslushslushbruh Před rokem

      @@Duskconqueror Probably. Japanese circuits in general... kinda now sure how that goes. They're like... very exclusive in weird ways.

  • @y0u5uf
    @y0u5uf Před rokem +122

    The production on these videos is staggering. I can't even begin to imagine the amount of work that goes in to these and we get them for freeeee. Thank you..

  • @trevorgunn6993
    @trevorgunn6993 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Love how creative you all are with the content. Continuously raising the bar

  • @sebasnu1
    @sebasnu1 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Holy molly, the quality of the editing it's just insane, keep that amazing job Hagerty; Jason & Randy as always an incredible combo

  • @ZephyrCorsa
    @ZephyrCorsa Před rokem +60

    These live breakdowns of track and performance data are INSANE- Huge props to the editing team.. ⚠️✅

    • @geraldgflem
      @geraldgflem Před rokem

      YES! My company produces film. These guys do a great job!

  • @lorddoosworth8175
    @lorddoosworth8175 Před rokem +51

    INSANE production quality 🤯

  • @williamdoyle777
    @williamdoyle777 Před 11 měsíci

    excellent..... best analysis about why cars go fast and what differences contrinute to fast lap times. Well done Jason and Randy.

  • @Captain_Coleslaw
    @Captain_Coleslaw Před 9 měsíci

    Masterclass videos! Keep it up guys, i get so genuinly happy when i see a video of Cammisa's pop up in my feed!

  • @Nick22257
    @Nick22257 Před rokem +82

    Everyone involved, I appreciate you. Incredible content you are making here.

  • @lareau6
    @lareau6 Před rokem +127

    This was the best lap battle vid ever. No staged tie, no staged pass, full of information on the cars and the corners. I hope they do a couple of them at different tracks.

    • @sethl8905
      @sethl8905 Před 9 měsíci

      Its still a staged race that didnt happen with fake lap times. Most of the dialog is meaningless.

    • @x1tekja
      @x1tekja Před 8 měsíci

      I was just wondering what the outcome would be at road America or Sebring

    • @mbferrari308QV
      @mbferrari308QV Před 8 měsíci +1

      and I was wondering how the BMW would do if it was not on STREET tires!!@@x1tekja

  • @lynntonchamberlain9180

    Please make more of this video's, Love every second and every detail of it

  • @claytonpeacock5842
    @claytonpeacock5842 Před 8 měsíci

    This was a great production! I really enjoyed watching. excellent format, loved the interraction with the host to the audience. I really like the graphics, and the side by side comparision on the track itself, very well done guys!!

  • @tescoshortage
    @tescoshortage Před rokem +350

    The Corvette not only matched the SVJ, but was half a second back from the Porsche. GM did a phenomenal job with the Corvette!

    • @Bimmer_Bill
      @Bimmer_Bill Před rokem +36

      Lol yeah ok. 0.6 seconds is a long ways back (9 car lengths) in an 80 second lap. Not only that it’s more consistent easiest to go fast. Stick with the bang for the buck argument Vette guy.

    • @solidsteal
      @solidsteal Před rokem +12

      Agreed! And even though I see them all over the roads now.... evey single one still turns my head.

    • @TheACCHRM
      @TheACCHRM Před rokem +73

      @@Bimmer_Bill hater much? The C8 is still the best car money can buy

    • @ripinpieces8387
      @ripinpieces8387 Před rokem +75

      @@Bimmer_Bill mid trim Vette btw that is the heaviest vehicle there and doesn't have an active picnic table on the back of it, zr1 and zora soon. Euro loyalists will still never give credit to anything that isn't German but that's expected from someone like you. Binmer_Bill.

    • @nick_kilgore
      @nick_kilgore Před rokem +28

      While I think his comment was kinda dumb as a Porsche fan myself given that it’s the third fastest lap they have tested I would never say any GM product is the best car money can buy lol. The C8 is a great bargain (excluding the 100+k markups for the z06) but certainly not the best car.

  • @shashikiransundi
    @shashikiransundi Před rokem +124

    0:32 This part where the cars are revved when Jason mentions their engine sizes is so awesome. It's as if the cars have come to life and they're responding to their call with joy and excitement.

  • @wesfreeman8911
    @wesfreeman8911 Před 7 měsíci

    Very well done! Look forward to many more. Keep up the great work.

  • @ayyylmao2525
    @ayyylmao2525 Před 6 měsíci

    I would love to see more lap battles! I love the drag races but something about a hot lap just feels awesome!

  • @OhCar_Magazine
    @OhCar_Magazine Před rokem +136

    Never fail to impress. The production quality on these videos is incredible. Thank you so much to everyone involved for creating such spectacular content!

    • @someyoungguyjohnson7239
      @someyoungguyjohnson7239 Před rokem +1

      Are you getting paid? Damn.

    • @OhCar_Magazine
      @OhCar_Magazine Před rokem

      @@someyoungguyjohnson7239 haha, yeah nah. Just can appreciate how work goes into producing a video of this quality.

  • @lapamful
    @lapamful Před rokem +62

    The race breakdown is pure gold. Thanks Jason!

  • @NewtonWashinton
    @NewtonWashinton Před 9 měsíci +1

    I was just passing by this video until I seen Randy Pobst was the driver. Thank You! I really enjoyed this comparison.

  • @Spitfire8o5
    @Spitfire8o5 Před 10 měsíci

    Incredible video, thank you for this 👌🏼

  • @professorsergio3819
    @professorsergio3819 Před rokem +95

    What a freakin' video. God, what a time to be alive. Props to the RS and Z06 for being this fast in the blistering cold. The ZO6 earned so much respect from me for being a luxury car inside with leather everywhere, heated and ventilated seats, 14 speakers with some of them in metal and costing way less than RS and being only 0.6 secs slower. Damn

    • @McNasty43
      @McNasty43 Před rokem +36

      This is a good point. If GM did a Z06 "Le Mans" or "Daytona24" edition with all of the fat stripped out like the GT3 RS, I'm sure it would make up that .6 seconds and then some.

    • @toxicgracie3772
      @toxicgracie3772 Před rokem +3

      ​@@McNasty43no one would buy a stripped down Corvette 😂😂 Vipers were Americas stripped down sport cars and there's a reason they're not around anymore

    • @RandomWrongDeletion
      @RandomWrongDeletion Před rokem +20

      @@toxicgracie3772 Explain the Z28 Camaro then, there’s 100% people who would buy a track Z06 😂

    • @toxicgracie3772
      @toxicgracie3772 Před rokem

      @@RandomWrongDeletion is the z28 actually stripped down? I always thought it was just a camaro tuned for the track with a bunch of aero and a z06 engine

    • @noncog1
      @noncog1 Před rokem +5

      @@toxicgracie3772 z/28 was a hardcore track car. Came fairly stripped.

  • @bilback9855
    @bilback9855 Před rokem +62

    I've never seen a track video perfected so much like this one
    good job guys 🔥

  • @hartpa
    @hartpa Před 12 dny

    Absolutely fantastic film, thank you!

  • @sickegg2000
    @sickegg2000 Před 11 měsíci

    Why why why! I always end up watch Jason and Randy’s video multiples time! So addictive, love the intro, content, special effect, knowledge and jokes just about everything! Thank you! Very entertaining!

  • @IDv8I
    @IDv8I Před rokem +47

    When entertainment, editing, knowledge and reviews come together to create perfection. That's what a Jason and Randy video on Hagerty gives you. We need more boys.

  • @drew8131
    @drew8131 Před rokem +20

    Wow! This is probably the BEST track battle I've ever seen. Unreal.

  • @kingsalami142
    @kingsalami142 Před 11 měsíci +1

    Yet another superb video by Jason, Randy, and their amazing Hagerty crew! Exceptionally well done...as usual!

  • @joshuavarghese9514
    @joshuavarghese9514 Před 10 měsíci

    Have recently come across this channel and can clearly say without a doubt that the production quality in all aspects is on a different level altogether. Keep producing amazing content guys.

  • @koruki
    @koruki Před 11 měsíci +17

    Very impressed with the Z06 from a Porsche fanboy here

  • @MatthewGaither
    @MatthewGaither Před rokem +32

    Incredible job. The editing is superb. Porsche is second to none when it comes to chassis and brake tuning but that Z06 is pretty amazing as well considering it costs half as much as the Porsche.

  • @jackprick9797
    @jackprick9797 Před 9 měsíci

    Second time watching this. These videos are just amazing! Thanks Hagerty, Jason and Randy!!!

  • @clemsonguy99
    @clemsonguy99 Před 9 měsíci

    One of the best car comparison videos I’ve ever watched. Top notch!

  • @arivette2010
    @arivette2010 Před rokem +17

    .6 seconds behind what is essentially a cup car for the streets is pretty remarkable. All of these cars are monsters.

    • @Jesppyy
      @Jesppyy Před 11 měsíci +1

      Especially with that moment of underwhelming braking in the ZO6 right at turn 3.

  • @warpspeed9877
    @warpspeed9877 Před rokem +110

    You owe it to BMW to come back with Cup2Rs. Not expect it to win but it will help it immensely in the bends (where it needs it).

    • @quackman
      @quackman Před rokem +4

      Definitely in better weather too. to be fair to those ultra-racey tires on the other cars, bit less grippy bc of the cold.

    • @njholt1
      @njholt1 Před rokem

      I do wonder how close it would be...

    • @jr1885
      @jr1885 Před rokem +9

      Most definitely needs a rematch. I think the M4 would give the Z06 a run for its money.

    • @TheilliterateLibrarian
      @TheilliterateLibrarian Před rokem +5

      @@jr1885 a m4csl ran a 7:16 Nurburgring time. A c7 z06 ran a 7:12 Nurburgring time for perspective. The c8 z06 is expected to go sub 7 and be head 2 head with the regular 911 GT3. Z06 is most definitely a faster track car than the m4CSL

    • @henzo7087
      @henzo7087 Před rokem +3

      @@TheilliterateLibrarian We need honest comparison. New 3.0 CSL would be even better BMW. This all track times for BMW are crap and no one is pushing to to the limit on Goodwood track is only behind GT2 RS MR

  • @scotthill9445
    @scotthill9445 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Your production and video editing is second to none. If you have a team...well done. If you have a single person editing...give them a raise! Mind blowing. Jason is so good in a class of his own!

  • @zalllon
    @zalllon Před 9 měsíci

    Love what these guys do! Please don’t stop producing content. A fan from Canada.

  • @rahul_2321
    @rahul_2321 Před rokem +22

    992 GT2RS is going to be wild

    • @joshuapounds7646
      @joshuapounds7646 Před rokem

      Porsche will reportedly cap off the current 992 generation of the 911 around 2026 with the return of the GT2 RS nameplate, this time with hybrid technology in tow

  • @Rice_Cake_
    @Rice_Cake_ Před 11 měsíci +48

    I love the corner-by-corner breakdown. Really helps to appreciate the characteristics and tuning of each car

  • @angadwasu7084
    @angadwasu7084 Před 4 měsíci

    Jason and Randy have reinvented the wheel here, never seen a track test this comprehensive and this entertaining - keep up the good work, it's amazing to see cars that are so different on the face of it compete in a track test

  • @sanscipher
    @sanscipher Před 10 měsíci

    Great presentation, as to be expected, but the cutting was next level. Wow, thank you!

  • @joshbayly00
    @joshbayly00 Před rokem +53

    This gave me goosebumps. The production quality that Jason & Hagerty are currently producing is second to none. Well done to everyone involved, and thank you for giving us such sublime content.

  • @DroneStrike1776
    @DroneStrike1776 Před rokem +18

    Brilliant stuff once again Jason, Randy, and Hagerty. I really wish BMW got the R tires for the CSL.

    • @bokiNYC
      @bokiNYC Před rokem +5

      Same 👍

    • @burritomaker69
      @burritomaker69 Před rokem +1

      I feel it’s a bit unfair of a comparison. The tread rating difference between the tires on the CSL and Chevy and Porsche is humongous. The tires alone could easily make a 2 second or more difference.

  • @LouieDoesaThing
    @LouieDoesaThing Před 8 měsíci

    Man this was so beautifully shot & produced, wow.

  • @aaronis31337
    @aaronis31337 Před 11 měsíci

    My lord! What a crazy good video. Thumbs up, re-subscribed with all notifications. Keep up the freaking amazing work guys!

  • @danieldickerson4838
    @danieldickerson4838 Před rokem +67

    I mean, the fact that the Z07 is literally a single *hair* behind the damn near race car with number plates 992 GT3 RS on Willow Springs is a testament to how much the engineers at GM nailed their car. Hell, the Z07 was even a hair quicker than both the GT2 RS and GT3 RS at Magny Cours club circuit a few weeks ago, and was only a few tenths behind a Senna. Different year that the Senna was run, yes, but that’s still *mightily* impressive for an N/A track car.
    The 992 GT3 RS is a monster, and it’s quickly beginning to grow on me in every facet, but it’s amazing to see just how close the Z06 is to it on track, especially when many were claiming that the Vette would stand no chance against it.
    Wonderful video across the board.

    • @CLSTRN911
      @CLSTRN911 Před rokem +21

      The Z06 is way faster than the RS on the straight line that’s why the corvette is close. The power has a huge influence in laptime. Look, the 992 GT3RS has 2 times more downforce than the 991 GT2RS, a better chassis + better brakes but the GT2RS is still faster on the leaderboard because of more power. Anyway, the Z06 is still an impressive car !

    • @BboyVReck
      @BboyVReck Před rokem +14

      @@CLSTRN911 now we need to wait for 992 GT2 RS.

    • @huyaomanh9814
      @huyaomanh9814 Před rokem +6

      That time around Magny Cours circuit is not comparable since it did not drive by the same driver with the same driver the GT2RS is hard to beat in any circuit. But it's still impressive, compare to 992 GT3 RS it has 152 hp it make up all the time it loss to the Porsche on the straight. It close but look at it closely, it's not. But hey the Porsche is twice as much as the Z06, such a bargain for a great track car.

    • @danieldickerson4838
      @danieldickerson4838 Před rokem +2

      @@huyaomanh9814 Agree with everything but the “close but not close statement”. Jason himself said that the Z07 was extremely close to the Porsche at the wrap up portion of the video, that it very nearly kept up with it in near freezing temperatures.

    • @95mushroom
      @95mushroom Před rokem

      Do you have a link for that?

  • @AutosconIvanChavez
    @AutosconIvanChavez Před rokem +29

    Hagerty just keep getting better and better every single time, amazing!

  • @DJTheoSF
    @DJTheoSF Před 7 měsíci

    Superb Production Quality! Love the way they dig into the specs and slow down the turns to see the cars trailing each other. I Like :)

  • @DesiqnedBy
    @DesiqnedBy Před 9 měsíci

    This production quality is absolutely insane. Hagerty you guys are truly next level automotive journalists!

  • @jarrocabanes5226
    @jarrocabanes5226 Před rokem +42

    I this is the most visually and technically demonstrative lap time analysis video I've ever seen. So awesome as always, Jason, Randy, and Anthony! Keep these high-quality, high entertainment value videos coming! And thank you, Hagerty, for allowing them to do so.🙏🏾

  • @lfa9329
    @lfa9329 Před rokem +18

    Absolutely fucking brilliant! The cinematography, the commentary, the cars!!! Perfection.

  • @DuplicitousMoxie71
    @DuplicitousMoxie71 Před 11 měsíci

    Jason, that right there is some of the best supercar journalism out there today. I love this stuff, could watch it all day....

  • @johns.270
    @johns.270 Před 8 měsíci

    Fantastic video - keep up the great work. Added a new subscriber today!

  • @MS-vt7fz
    @MS-vt7fz Před 11 měsíci +98

    This is just next-level journalism and competitive vehicle comparison. The turn-by-turn breakdown with Randy on track and Jason on track is movie magic. Great job guys, keep up the great work!

  • @fahadm8260
    @fahadm8260 Před rokem +17

    These guys just took car videos to another level

  • @curiousfan8086
    @curiousfan8086 Před 8 měsíci

    Jason also has great videos, so funny and amazing content! The corner by corner analysis is rare and outstanding! Thank you!!

  • @Icebergslim333
    @Icebergslim333 Před 11 měsíci

    Jason Cammisa is easily the best car journalist on CZcams and it's not even close.

  • @RPM12000
    @RPM12000 Před rokem +10

    This guy REALLY knows how to make the best videos on this planet and how to emphasize a car over it's advantages and disadvantages

  • @SpineShank7
    @SpineShank7 Před rokem +43

    Randy, Jason, and their production crew really are the best in the business. This is the most interesting and entertaining track coverage I've ever seen... and I have seen a lot. Nice work!

  • @Renegade-007
    @Renegade-007 Před 7 měsíci

    Sir, you are underrated. The editing in this is amazing. Thank you who ever thought of this concept, brilliant

  • @richk824
    @richk824 Před 11 měsíci

    Who ever does the editing for this channel is amazing. like I always like the breakdowns ya do during these races.