Can ONE Upgrade Save This Potato PC?
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- čas přidán 24. 06. 2024
- Testing each individual upgrade for an old 2013-era budget PC build to see which one gives more performance: RAM, SSD storage, a CPU upgrade, or a new graphics card
The 2013 Budget Build from my last PC video was… well, okay, it was a bit of a potato, even with some upgrades. The 4th gen i5 CPU, 8GB of RAM, elderly hard drive and Radeon R7 graphics card aren't enough for modern games, but each one could easily be upgraded for better performance. A hypothetical broke PC owner, looking to get their old PC gaming again a decade later, might only have enough money for a single upgrade. Which of the possible upgrades makes the most sense, and which are just a waste of money?
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00:00 Upgrading the 2013 Budget Build
00:36 Backstory
00:59 Original Components & Upgrade Options
04:32 RAM Upgrade
07:14 Storage Upgrade
10:37 CPU Upgrade
13:20 GPU Upgrade
17:11 Total Upgrade
18:39 Conclusion
A D S
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It obviously just needs a 4090 with a 50% power limit.
with a fire extinguisher
I chuckled
More like 25% power limit :P
when the pc has more vram than actual ram 😂
it needs gpu and storage upgrade
This channel is criminally underrated, it deserves more recognition! Great video!
Thanks!
bish, he's been growing like crazy in the past months
This comment made me realize I wasn’t subscribed and hit that shit.
@@IcebergTech Do you have interesst in Video supply for your i7 5775c Coverage ? Just text me i look into more games if needed.
@@thajazzzprovidaaa26 me too watched 3 videos this week. And found out I enjoyed them
should totally make a video on the 5775 by itself since its a super interesting architecture with not much coverage online related to the L4 cache
~17 days from now, all going well.
L4 cache!?
@@qwertykeyboard5901 yes, it had an extra layer of cache
@@qwertykeyboard5901 It's the OG Ryzen 7 5800X3D.
@@qwertykeyboard5901It is integrated memory for the igpu. But If disabled, the CPU can use it as l4 Cache.
I like this unique take on PC upgrading. Like watching a game settings optimization video
honestly havent thought abt that yet, yes many possibilities but lets see how things turned out when they actually available
6:15 this was an unexpected but very welcome classic meme, good one 👌🏻
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Bizarrely underrated channel. Keep up with the amazing content!
Thanks 😁
yes, basically the questions we all ask when thinking about upgrading, that no one answers.
Except Iceberg.
You're on track to becoming a tech CZcamsr giant imo, and I can't wait, you deserve it for this genuinely amazing content.
I know you can't bang this kind of video out every week, but after the recent Xeons, this was a breath of fresh air! Interesting, entertaining and informative, and you almost had me with the early 'thanks for watching', you scoundrel!
I'm basically doing this for a friend who is running an old optiplex. nicked the extra ram from work and just bought a rx 480 8gb from cex for £90, when hes got the money ill move him to an i7 and he'll have pretty much the same system as you have here. its really cool to see the effect of different components like this all in one vid, keep up the good work.
Might be worth checking out if a i7-4770K/4790K with some oc is faster than the i7-5775C. Some games really love the big cache, but others would benefit more from the faster cores.
Man you make such a great videos it's always a lovely sight to see you upload !!
I've never actually seen the i7 5775c, but pretty much every mentioning of one I've come across was followed by "my example couldn't overclock past 4.2GHz". There just might be a hard lock there somewhere.
My entertainment PC is a bit of a powerhouse now (with a problem I can't solve at all, but that's a different story), but it's actually been a long road to get there, with a mishmash of parts being used as different times. Anyhow, when I first put it together it has the Athlon 200ge apu, no dgpu and the spinning rust. Man, Windows 10 on an HDD, that's just criminal... Waiting for it to turn on, then waiting for it to run anything, then waiting for it to... Waiting, waiting, waiting. Yes, I did play older games for a bit, but in reality, until I got that ssd, it was pretty much used as a Netflix box. Turn on Chrome, fire up Netflix and try not to breathe close to it, so it doesn't decide to get stuck. I even had 16GB ram, and still it felt unusable. So, in my opinion, any other upgrade is pointless if you can't make yourself even use the darn thing.
I voted ram. Feels nice to be validated like this. This video was a crazy good idea.
You should do "upgrade old/existing pc Vs sell and buy new components pc"
Good idea, I'll look into it
You are one of my favorite channels to follow. You really do a great job on tech and with great humor. This one hit really close to home with almost identical set up, but already at the max. i7 4790s @4 Ghz, 16gb, M.2 SSD, GTX1650, and 800w. I only run Assetto Corsa sim racing in 4K and get 70-80 FPS with medium to high settings.
I'd LOVE to see you take this too the NEXT LEVEL! 4790K overclocked, RTX GPU, maxed out and overclocked ram, throw everything at it and see how much you can squeeze out of it. I know selling the parts to upgrade to something more modern would be the smart thing to do, but that ain't me... 🤑
Friend has a 4790k with 32GB RAM and a 2080Ti. Plays at 1440p ultra wide and I’m pretty sure it’s CPU bottlenecked.
Doing the individual upgrades to show the actual effect on gaming is a nice touch. Helps reinforce the lesson that there is seldom just one upgrade that does it all.
I love how these videos are edited. its like a different feel to all the other tech channels
Great topic and a perfect video! Found your channel a few months back and love your videos! 👍🏻😊 I had a system similar to this not too long ago - i5 4590, 16 GB DDR3 1600, and initially a GTX750Ti, but I upgraded right before the graphics card market bubble to a GTX 1650... real good timing 😉 Capable little machine, enough for office work and Cyberpunk 2077 played fine, so I can confirm your conclusions. I changed to a more modern Ryzen system only a month ago 🙂
Keep the great content coming! 👍🏻
This was an amazing video. I liked how methodical you were about it and I loved seeing the comparisons.
I like potatoes, baked. That still turned into a playable system. Thanks for the video.
Love to see your channel continue to grow!
I’d probably choose the SSD upgrade as that will have the most benefit outside of games - everyday OS use, office, web browsing, etc. should all greatly benefit in responsiveness with an SSD.
Production value is great! Love these old/cheap hardware upgrade guides.
Mate... Your editing, voice and recording, all impeccable! The reviews - clear and comprehensible. And evens bit of humour mixed into it! Keep them videos coming, awesome work!
This vid alone makes this tech channel better than the rest
Amazing video my guy! I love your content so much, it is always a treat to see a new video in my inbox.
I'd love to see what happens if you combine just the ram and the SSD, since those are the easiest upgrades.
Very informative and interesting take of a video Iceberg... I'm looking forward to the i7 5775C review and it's theoretical limit with more demanding modern video cards. Thank you for the hard work and professionalism of your content. Cheers!
Great video. I really enjoyed it 👏👏
Absolutely love this video. I do upgrades here & there on the various PCs at home. Seeing in your video how it affects performance with metrics is awesome. Thank you!
Don't forget about eDRAM overclock for your dedicated i7-5775C video! It helps massively. In my case it maxes out at around 2100 MHz and I've seen multiple folks getting 2200.
In terms of overclocking my 5775C does 4.2 GHz at 1.35V and 4.4 GHz at 1.45, but I only used that second OC setting for some 3DMark scoring. I had to lower my RAM speeds from DDR3-2400 to 2200 unfortunately, due to the CPU memory controller not being great. Overall, it's actually a good pairing with second-hand 200€ 5700 XT and it serves me well with little to no stutter.
Well! I just gave an EDRAM overclock a try (tried a 21x ratio, but HWInfo only reports the EDRAM as running at 2GHz). It made a difference, but in the wrong direction! It knocked about 35-50 FPS off both my Valorant and BF V results. I'm gonna try some more stuff tomorrow.
@@IcebergTech lowering of performance may be a sign of instability, so keep that in mind. I would suggest trying different clocks with performance measuring, regression is really not what you're looking for :D
I've had a similar experience on my i5. At 4.3 GHz I can run the memorry on 2133, but for 4.5 GHz I have to drop that to 2000. I'm still running the first config, even if it's a tiny tad slower, just for the fact that it runs much cooler and mor efficient.
Definitely needs more than one upgrade. But I absolutely love this video, and the idea behind it!
Been watching every upload for the last 4 months. Been a blast and definitely lots of information I never knew I needed. Plus the jokes slipped here and there to break the ice :)
Great video and channel.....subscribed. Greetings from Long Island NY
What an amazing idea. Seems like it should be obvious and yet I've never seen it. No wonder your channel is skyrocketing. Well done.
4790k is still a beast also some z97 boards can use NVME ssd's with a PCIE adapter as I used on in one of my previous PC's.
Well but if you look on the eBay you can find almost all the time i5 12400/f for as low as £135 and h610 D4 for less then £80 and GPU depends on PSU you have 👉 and for another +-£150-170 RX 5700XT
@@FakundoAnanas I agree with you but if you wanted to maximise existing without having to take apart everything e.g remove motherboard 4790k would be the better choice over 5775c plus they are usually pretty overclocker friendly. Admittedly it's a false economy
Z97s often came with M.2 slot on the board actually, albeit only PCIe 2.0 x2 (max 1GB/s). Some mobo makers had their own implementation that used PCIe 3.0 x4 tho
What an amazing video, I love this channel of yours! I didn't even know about this Intel i7 5775C processor... ;-)
Good job adding the graphs through the video. It is really easy to comprehend.
Thanks, I see Google Sheets in my sleep now, glad it was worth it!
I love this channel! Methodical approaches to answering the really important questions not just "i upgraded every component and it's fsster omg"
so you are calling my I7 3770 a potato pc? I feel ofended :D I can guaranted that I runs Spiderman Remastered with pretty solid 60 fps, the only game I played tha have massive CPU bottleneck is Plague Requiem, where fps drops to around 40 with lot of rats on screen, specs: I7 3770 oc 4.1 ghz, 24gb 1600 mhz, GTX 1660 Ti oc, another demanding game that also run very well with this config is shadow of the tomb raider, If I disable the hyperthreading, lose a lot of performance
Thats tech youtuber for you. Out of touch, to the point of being pretentious.
Dawg its kind of a potato nowadays. Even the legendary 4770k got phased out.
Avg fps is rarely bad on older CPUs, it's 0.1 and 1% lows that suffer. I3 12100f is so much better than 3rd-4th gen intels and it doesn't cost much
It’s a decade old mid range platform with a half decade old entry level gpu. It’s a potato pc.
@@joemarais7683 3770 was high end cpu back then.
Great video, i like these kind of budget build. The end conclusion i got to admit was very satisfying. How much in total for the upgrades? 300 was the base, that I know.
🙂 thats very neat, its interesting to see how different parts come together to make a game run
Nice vid. I have a i7-4770k build from 2013 that blew a month ago. It was surprisingly good with a GPU upgrade and my motherboard even had a m.2 slot where I put some cheap kingston drive some years ago.
Excellent video, like!
Man i love your content !!!
I like this :) Very interesting to see what can be made from potatoes. More please.
Great video, I was just actually deciding between ram and a cpu upgrade.. guess I'm going for the ram.
Bruh. The joke ending of the video before the "Total Upgrade" section physically hurt more than I expected.
This was an awesome video and I'm sure it took ages to make.
Love the attempt to leave us hanging, when you accidently put the all upgrade performance on the previous graph :)
Regarding the all upgrade price I think it would seem a lot more reasonable if you had priced a i7-4770k and a gtx 970 if the PSU had 2 6pin adapters or a gtx 1060 if it only had one.
Basically if anyone is considering upgrading the graphics card they should comsider the other upgrades (particularly the cheap CPU and ram) plus the PSU to allow something like a gtx 1070 GPU.
The used market is bottoming out. I saw a system with an i5-9400, 16gb of ram and a gtx 1660 go on eBay for less than £300 today. I would expect such a system to sell for much more than that on Facebook marketplace but ppl don't like buying heavy PCs from eBay.
This was a really fun video
This was fun to watch. Yeah i can agree selling it for parts and then buying a better FPS per dollar system is the way to go on something this old :)
Sitting here gaming on my fist gaming build that i did in January 2020. I5 4590 with 8g and a rx570 4g with a 400w psu and 120gb ssd ,oh and I am eating potatoes watching this. I have honestly been perfectly happy with it.even playing vr.
Great content 🔥
Few years ago I got a Z77 system for free from my uncle, it had an i5-3450, 8GB RAM, GTX 760, 500GB HDD. I've upgraded it to an i7-3770 @ 4.22-4.43GHz, 16GB RAM and a 250GB MX500 SSD. I did also put a better CPU cooler in it from an older system.
It's been working fine as a secondary gaming PC but the GTX 760 is definitely holding it back, maybe someday I'll upgrade it to a cheap GTX 1070 or something.
I watched all the way in hopes of seeing the ALL to keep it a surprise, noicee
you earned a new subscriber!
Welcome aboard!
Nice I picked ran for the 0.1 pc lows... Great concept. All flips I do have a lot of raam!
I always think that I am going to watch a medical case investigation while you‘re doing your intro😂
Keep up your great work man!
Not sure why but I enjoyed this video more than the last 100 tech videos I've watched on YT. Subbed 👌
I'm currently upgrading a SFF 4th Gen Optiplex 3020. SSD, 16gb ddr3 1600 and i7 4790 are all easy. The strongest single slot low profile card that will fit (That I can find) is the RX 6400 but it's hobbled by the PCIE gen 3. It plays ok but the weirdness and borderline incompatibility of the pair is very noticeable in certain games.
This is an excellent video
I’ve been trying the 5775c for around a month and I figured I would share some thoughts/findings if you wanna push it I would use xtu as I’ve noticed if you bios side at least in my case it would hit a weird power limit. Along with that if you go the opposite route and do a modest oc like 4ghz I’ve managed to pull the watts down to around 48w all core which is kinda interesting.
the rock music is such a juxtaposition to other pc videos, love it
Z97 Chipset had 2 different versions.
With and without M.2 NVMe SSD slot.
And then suddenly 9 years later, a lot of Chinese or Taiwanese Motherboard companies acknowledged that secondhand CPU market still going strong.
So they made various motherboard for socket LGA 115x that has a Brand New M.2 PCIe slot.
So Processors like SandyBridge, IvyBridge, Haswell can use M.2 NVMe SSD without even messing around with BIOS.
And the Motherboard itself is Cheap! Less than 30 bucks. However it still doesn't support Overclocking because the Motherboard CPU power pin was limited to 100 Watt cap. Can't go beyond 100 watt.
Great video.
Great video
it seems like yesterday that this stuff was cutting edge, man how time passes by ...
what I hate about the used market (at least here in Sweden) is that people just want waaay too much money from their old stuff. I mean, it's used, there's no warranty and the seller has already had their fun with these components (often for 7-10 years already) The components usually come with a dust collection the size of their infant offspring as well. And still they want at least half the price they got these components for. With those kind of prices it only makes sense to make a single upgrade, if the system requires more than that (like this PC) it's hard to justify venturing out in the used market at all. On the other hand people are throwing out the very same components as e-waste, so I have literally just have had more success in dumpster diving these last couple of years. Acquiring full 4th gen i5 and i7 systems with GTX1050Ti, GTX750Ti and a 1060 3GB.... for free...
I am 4 minutes or so in to the video and I am going to guess that the video card upgrade is the single best upgrade to do.
Cool video. I have been running an old workstation with an Sandy Bridge Xeon e5 2665 and I have the RAM maxed at 64 GBs. For storage I ended up going with a hybrid setup. I have a 500GB boot drive and a 6TB storage drive.
The last and most recent upgrade was an RX 5600XT. I think it will keep going for awhile. Until AVX 2 becomes a requirement to even start a game I doubt I will need to worry for awhile.
Very nice video👍
I would like to note that you can activate Resizable-BAR on R7 260X with "ReBarUEFI". However, your R7 260X instance may not have full UEFI support - to fix this, you will need to modify the vBIOS with the "DIY GOP Update".
In addition, it is worth disabling Spectre/Meltdown patches on older Intel CPUs (and Zen 1-3 from AMD) to get an additional 2-5% performance
I have an AMD version of your potato with a better PSU and I did all of the above but the GPU and saw great results for far less than 200usd. The upgrade made my A10 system somewhat viable for 2 years. Ram was the biggest boost for me.
Another great video.
Awesome Channel, just found this video on recommendation, i have the same kind of potato and i completely upgraded during 2020
i3 4330 to i7 4770
igpu to gtx1050ti
6gb ram to 16 gb ram
hdd to sata ssd
the ssd and gpu is the only thing i could possibly reuse in future if on a budget ...IF
I did some similar upgrades to my old i5 4690 and r9 290 PC. I got a xeon 1271 for $30 and bought an rx 6600. the cpu upgrade gave it just a bit more life, I was no longer pegged at 100% cpu usage regularly while playing games, and it helped with stuttering in elden ring a bit.
Solid Video as always. I did not thought that these 1% are so much more important. But it makes perfectly sense, higher 1% = more constant output. The Perfect Upgrade were a Xeon 1270v3 16gb ram and a GTX 1070 and a SSD, but i agree that isnt the point and building something new would be more efficient.
Also a Video Idea: The 10Th Gen Intel Series are solid budget parts now. Price to performance rating from the potato pc as an upgrade
Thanks, i always wonder what to upgrade netx on my potato PC, now i know it will be probably RAM.
You should do a short video running Tiny11 on this system, it was a huge upgrade for my little sibling's Mini PC and wanna know what would happen to a bigger potato PC with it installed
This must have took a lot of time, thanks
I do think that some games will have a huge difference between the 4790k and the 5775c because of the L4 cache, others not too mutch. Some motherboards let you overclock cache speed, see if it's possible in yours.
think if you can get 4.5 ghz or above itll be good for 1080 144hz gaming, 2k-4k i5/i7 k series usually can do 4.5ghz no prob
I had the exact same Sapphire 260X back in the day, this card had problems getting out of power sleep state, lots of users had this problem.
This is a great video.
Honestly the best thing to do here especially if you're on a budget....
One upgrade at a time.
This is how I built my current rig, I bought one part I needed every week when I got paid and once I had them all I built the whole thing. I've had it for about a year and a half now and I already want to upgrade a few things, mainly my RAM and graphics card, but otherwise I'm quite happy with it.
I bought an i3 4170 and Msi H81 mobo with 8gb ram back in 2015. It was in my budget and all parts was new. I upgraded to an i5 and after thet i get an i7 4770. I has that i7 untill 2022 paired with gtx 1080 and 16gb of ram. It was very good combination in my opinion. Now I have i5 10th gen but between those 2 chips with gtx 1080 is not so much diference. That,s my opinion. Anyway, good job with this video.
A better way to approach this type of video might be to set a minimum performance threshold and see how much the total build cost would be to achieve said performance. Say 1080p 60fps with medium settings, then what you have to spend on various older platforms to achieve this target. It would be a good test of how much value is in various older platforms, given the total cost of buying and upgrading them.
You may or may not have been able to use a PCIE to M.2 adapter and thrown an SSD in that way; 4th Gen Core was the first generation with native NVMe boot support, even if the board didn't have a slot for it
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how do you only have 20k bro you make better videos then 90% of other techtubers
Ahhh, just screw in with confidence and everything will be fine
I really like your videos and agree with the others here - the audience will surely grow!
This video is quite interesting for me personally, being a little Broadwell-fanboy. I've used an i5 5675c and was quite happy with it, but then encountered a Xeon E3-V4 1285L for 100€, which is very similar to the i7 5775c, but without the unlocked multiplier of course. I'm using 32GB of DDR3-1866 and a GTX 1080, which still is sufficient for my needs, playing mainly older titles.
Some comments on this one: While it is an interesting approach to just change one component and see what will happen, it is quite obvious what's the case here: The base system had several bottle necks, and fixing only one at a time won't solve them all. I think you say it later in the video as well.
Maybe it could be done the other way round: Start from "all in" and switch one component back to the old one ... then we'd see which one is really crucial in order to maintain the "all in performance".
Analysing the chart at 14:55 , it looks like the strongest stutters (0,1% lows) were clearly memory related, therefore the ram and ssd upgrades made the biggest differences. Or differently spoken, the GPU can do nothing about that, but it can boost the performance while nothing is waiting for something from the memory, I guess the same can be said about the CPU.
I'm looking forward to the i7 5775c special!
I had a gtx 750ti and i5-4460 since 2016 i only recently wanted to upgrade my pc and tbh i found some pretty good used deals i got a xeon e3 1231v3 for 15$ and then when i wanted to upgrade my gpu i came a cross a local deal for a gtx 1650g6 version for 70$ i would say that these upgrades made my pc good once again for at least 3-4 years more when i want to make a pc from zero as a whole 🙂
Wooow, you just sums a lot of my thinkin.. 4th then 6th generation of cpu ..eee what did he say i7-5775 ??? so there was a 5th gen? Plus what komponent upgrade is best ? Yes, ram did suprised me a lot. Super video,thx for it. Ahoj from Morava .
My PC is a similar story. I built it back in 2014 inside a media box that looked like some extra large old VCR because that is what i had from my previous Core 2 Duo system that i used to have connected to a Tv as a monitor(yes it was a way to save money by not buying a monitor) and 450W Coolemaster power supply that has been running reliably for almost 20 years now.
So yeah when i built it i saved on PC case and power supply. (oh yeah and my old trusty DVD drive)
Threw the years i have been slowly upgrading it which is why it is still going until now.
I built it around a budget Asrock motherboard and an i5 4590 LGA 1150 with an in the box stock cooler that was basically an APU since it had an integrated graphics 4600 from Intel. Then i threw 16 GB of DDR 3 and a 7200rpm 1TB Seagate drive.
And yes for the first few years i was scrapping by with a pathetic integrated graphics unit from Intel.
You see my pathetic VCR box had an extension card so it can fit a GPU inside and during moving to a new living space it was lost so i couldn't put a GPU in it even if i had the money to get a GPU which at the time of building i would have have used for a better PC case.
Then glorious 2017 arrived. I threw away the annoying VCR box that couldn't even properly fit a GPU for a Fractal design R5 that help me get rid of hearing the annoying sounds of the stock Intel cooler and gave me the ability to throw in that baby the then new 1050Ti with 4GB of GDDR5. Now we were rocking baby.
Games in 1080p played fine and the system was silent and cool looking.
But as time pass the system old hard drive speed and games loading slow along with that cooler getting louder and louder every time i pushed the CPU started to warn me. So in glorious but catastrophic for the world 2020 i bought a better little cooler with some heat pipes etc and stuck it in there along with a S-ATA III 1TB from Sandisk for the operating system. Woohoo baby! Fast loading now! Look at me mom, no mechanical.
All that was great but although i had the wisdom to throw 16GB in there from the start, that helped in many things. The problem is that i have the tendency to open 3 gazillion 457456 thousand taps at the same time that made my PC fall on it's needs and cry trying to remember everything.
So as soon as we were allowed to see the sun shine once again and be released from our home arrest i went and got another 16GB of memory and put more memory in that 2014 old boy system than even new PC's wish they had.
My boy can now proudly go along showing the ladies his big long 32GB of memory and yes finally it immediately got an AOC 27 inch 1080p monitor with 144hz IPS panel next to it making it look all good and fine.
Finally we reached current year. Everything lasted well until now but i felt the wall just like a partying chick notices it with her first wriggles around the eyes. The CPU and GPU combo did fine until now with an HD screen but no one is eternal other than DOOM in high FPS.
Something had to give. But both CPU and GPU are perfect compo utilizing each other at best and acting as a bottleneck for any upgrade to each other.
I ended deciding to bring new life and new blood by going for a new heart and looking threw ebay i got a 4790 for just 50 bucks.
So now i got more threats and more GHz but the 1050Ti reaches it's limit before the CPU.
SO HEAR ME OUT OH WISE PC CZcamsR AND SPREAD YOUR LIGHT UPON ME.
What GPU should i get now to fully utilize the CPU but without buying anything that the CPU can't utilize fully(and won't make my old 450W power supply cry)?
What will you proposal be? Will it involve a ring? Ok, ok ...you can propose without a ring. Just make it good and make sure i'll be happy.
Those Super Flower PSUs can push 100W more than their specified wattage with a Silver efficiency. I had a 550W one and ran GTX 970 SLI OC without any hiccups back in the day.
edit: Oh, nothing. Those are the newer models than the original Golden Green models.
You should of left us hanging with no all numbers 🤣 lol
Was SOOO tempted
As the theoretically broke owner of such a PC, I appreciate this video being made.
Nice video as always. If this PC is a potato then my PC is a rock. 😂 I wonder if this PC without any upgrades is better than my FX8320 that has 16GB of DDR3 RAM and a Radeon HD 7950 3GB Twin Frozr iii GPU. Almost all of my games are stored on a 2TB hard drive that has very slow read/write speeds. I think if I upgraded my GPU first then I would probably get better FPS in most games.
I've made a similar test back in 2016 I guess, with an old LGA775 office pc with only 2Gb of ram. Went from almost unusable to somewhat okay-ish performance with 4Gb of ram, but keeping the 2Gb of ram and going the SSD route made much more sense. Overall, the quality-of-life improves a huge amount with the much faster storage, since the pagefile 'suddenly' becomes 'not-unbearable'.
For this (or any other) gaming potato, the GPU is a must-upgrade if you don't plan on sticking with the old-gen games only, and the SSD makes for a gigantic "perceived" improvement, even when the numbers don't actually back up the 'feeling'.
The numbers from the RAM upgrade where actually surprising, I was expecting much less, which makes me wonder about the fine details regarding the ram differences...
I'm on a quite similar system but not that tight of a budget.
Also an i5, but overclockable, 16 GB RAM (which was on the big side at the time, but not super uncommon), and the original GTX 660 Ti replaced with a 1060 a couple years ago, plus the usual setup of a small SSD for the OS and a big mechanical drive for installations and mass storage. (And I'm looking at upgrading that as well. But since the 1060 does play all I want to play on it, it will stay)
Now for the single update, it clearly depends on what one want's to do.
- Getting an SSD would improve the day-to-day use for a snappier system.
- More RAM would obviously help for people who want to multitask a lot. Keeping a browser open while gaming, etc. And with more stable frame pacing.
- In most games the GPU is indeed a no brainer. Most games will pull more on the GPU as long as the CPU can keep it fed.
- But there are titles where the CPU would make a big difference. Mostly simulations, strategy games ,etc. Large scale things where the system has to calculate lots of NPCs and such. (But there isn't that much to get out of the system without changing the motherboard as well, which also means getting different RAM, and at that point, it's basically a new system already. The best would be an i7-4770K/4790K or i7-5775C, which is faster depends on the game. Faster cores or the big cache. A similar situation to the Ryzen 5800X and 5800X3D)
For the games, yeah, Cyberpunk won't be super smooth no matter what graphics card. The game is simply from the post-quad core era.
Witcher 3 would run much better with the old release 8non next-gen). I played that with pretty much stable 60 fps even on my Core 2 Quad midrange-retro rig with my old GTX 660 Ti. Not at ultra obviously, but at decent settings. And without any upscaling.
And for a full, no limit upgrade on the platform, I would probably throw in a i7-4790K and oc it, put in 16 GB of fast memory (or oc that as well), and obviously the SSD and GTX 1650 as well. But with the cost of all these parts, getting a more recent system, maybe a nice APU, would do better with more upgrade options later on. 400 quid can already give a decent experience, and if you sell the old system, even better.
Well this is a PHENOMENAL video!
Now I know what to upgrade in my pc. Or at least what I should, since all my specs are really low end nowadays, but for me are pretty high end since this is the best pc I've ever had AND it's my first " Pc build " , and most importantly, IT'S ENOUGH :
i5-3570
Gtx 750 ti
8 GB DDR3 1600mhz ram ( Single channel, this is important )
SATA SSD 128gb ( planning to change it to a 512gb one )
300w psu
Windows 10
Now immediately you can tell that it's pretty low end. Then again depending on the person, you might be blown away and wishing you had such a gaming rig ( me about a year ago ) , or you are laughing your A off right now. Either way, my biggest issue right now is stuttering in some games. Some stutter more than others btw. And I think we can all see now, and also thanks to this video, that the ram is the issue. Not only is it 8gb , not 16 , but it's single channel, whereas even quad channel ( not supported by the cpu ) would be way better that single channel.
you should absolutely get another identical (or close enough, same timings) 8GB stick and upgrade to 16GB dual channel. You can get an 8GB stick of DDR3 for $10-20.
Quad channel DDR3 is only an option on X79 (Socket 2011) and I don't recommend that because it's an older platform, too. Good if you want a cheap multicore server (they made up to 22 core/44 thread Xeon processors for this platform) but not really better for gaming. Plus most of the X79 motherboards are either expensive old stock or weird Chinese abominations from AliExpress.
That power supply is a bit anemic, too, and a GPU upgrade would require a PSU upgrade. I mean, maybe you could go for a GTX1650LP (Or RX 6400) like he did, but 300W will limit your options. Another upgrade option that doesn't require supplemental power would be an RTX A2000 (runs about like an RTX 3050) but that card is a workstation-oriented product; probably costs more than your entire rig, so no. Between the GTX 1650LP and RX 6400, I think the AMD card would fare better in games, and probably for long term as AMD's drivers seem to hold up better over time for legacy cards. nVidia likes to phase out features for legacy drivers more.
Older video, but I would love to see a redo of this: instead of constraining yourself to an individual part, you set a budget. I kept thinking throughout this video that one would probably have a far better time refreshing the CPU/mobo instead of buying a new GPU.
Hey just fyi: To remove the weird warping in the video make sure the options for youtube auto-stabilization is off.