Lowers service on a Fox fork | Syd Fixes Bikes
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- čas přidán 28. 06. 2024
- In this video you'll learn to do a lower service on a Fox fork.
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Fox bike service where you can put in your fork number:
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What you'll need:
Dust wiper kit: bit.ly/3dlcsG0
Lower leg removal tools (can use your sockets): bit.ly/34HunTm
Fork seal install tool (can use a piece of PVC): bit.ly/34IH1kL
Fox 20wt Gold fluid: bit.ly/2SFaLK3
Fox 5wt suspension fluid: bit.ly/2SFaLK3
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Syringe: bit.ly/36PbKPS
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00:00 Intro
00:18 What you'll need
01:03 Why should you do this?
01:26 Terminology
01:58 Removing the lowers
08:44 Removing the o-rings and dust wipers
09:53 Installing the o-rings and dust wipers
12:46 Reinstalling the lowers
13:50 Injecting bath oil fluid
14:54 Installing lock nuts and crush washers
16:04 Injecting air chamber oil
17:07 How to do a lower service in one minute
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Love the format guys, and love the way Syd stresses about all the things I would, when I haven't got a clue what I'm doing.
I'm also a fan of the casual format. Teaching Syd while she does it herself is a great way to go. I already know most of this DIY stuff, but it's fun to watch you two interact as you teach her. Also, I didn't even know that there was oil in the positive air side, none of the other videos cover this. You two taught me something today, going to go change my positive air chamber oil now!
This whole series has been so invaluable for people like me who are trying to get more into working on their bikes. Especially after I had a nightmare experience in a new town and ended up spending about 1,200 on a full rebuild last year. Swore to fix everything myself after that.
Some tips....
1. Clean the fork and dust seals before disassembly so you aren’t introducing dirt into the lowers when they are removed. No reason to add contaminants.
2. Have the fork rotated up past 90 when you hammer the shafts in. That way you can control when the oil pours out. Just like you did when you added oil.
3. A seal installer tool is much more important than the shaft hammer tools since you can use the socket to hammer on.
4. It is necessary to pre oil the foam rings, not optional. Just because fox doesn’t build them correctly, doesn’t mean you should.
I really like the 1 minute overview you added to the end of the video. So helpful for reference.
this format, with us learning along with Syd, really is brilliant. you just dont see tutorials like this, but it really humanizes the process and makes it more approachable. also it just really fun. i'll be back to this video again when its time to service one of my forks!
I'm so glad I stumbled on this channel. I'm a 34 year old guy and these are some of the best, most approachable DIY videos I've seen.
Truly amazing!!!! I like that Mackey lets Syd get ahead of things a little bit to make the kind of minor mistakes, as an example for us, that we want to avoid. But he doesn’t let things get too out of hand. Seeing Syd do this stuff makes me think that I might be able to do the same.
This is how all bike maintenance videos should be formatted. Thank you!
Oooh! We need a rear shock service tutorial!
One thing we forgot to mention: when you're adding pressure back into the fork, every 20 psi or so, leave the shock pump attached and slowly compress the fork a couple times to allow the positive and negative air chambers to equalize. It will also slightly decrease the pressure in the upper chamber (what the pump is reading), so do the same when you get to your desired pressure and then double check that the pressure is what you want it to be.
timing from start to finish?
Another note:
1cm³ = 1mL
DO NOT do that, you could fuck your pump manometer doing that
@@peaceinpowder 18:56 😅
Tip for installing seals without a seal driver. Put them in the freezer for an hour and they install easier, also use slick honey or slickolium on the inside of the fork.
My version of this is heat the lower slightly with a heat gun
A++ content so far. Favorite new channel of the fall! Love your other content - bringing that same energy, chemistry, knowledge and fun to the mechanic side is pure gold. I've been a home mechanic for a while now and am always looking for information to help me get better. So far you're blowing other, very good videos, out of the water. Love the fun, clear steps, practical approaches and links to every single thing (how can so many other quality videos give a list, but not links?!?). Thanks and keep it up (like forever - teach us ALL the things - don't ever stop)!
Thanks so much for the kind words and encouragement!
Informative and entertaining! Probably one of the more fun "how to" vids I have watched. Nice work!
Best fork service video out there! Really gives newbies like me who wants to do their own fork maintenance the confidence to do it. Very comprehensive tutorial! Subscribed!
This is a brilliant tutorial. I lost using my mtb for 12 weeks when the lockdown started cos my forks were away being serviced. Will be up for trying it myself after seeing your work.
Great video! You guys are killing it!
To remove wiper seals from lowers use a cylindrical solid piece of plastic an 1” in diameter and about a foot long. You can score off amazon for nothing. Much safer to remove wipers without scratching anything.
Also make sure to soak foam ring in the correct bath oil. Grip 2 uses 20gold on air spring, but ptfe 5wt on the damper side.
Finally, don’t ever use the aluminum nuts to punch loose the damper and air spring shafts. The threads can be easily damaged doing this making it very hard, if not impossible, to thread them back on.
Just some things I noticed
What to use instead of the aluminum nuts? (DIY-style)
If you can find another nut with the same thread pitch, then use that. Otherwise get the steel punches from Fox.
Really love your videos! We followed your steps last night and was able to service my son's fork last night and it's much better! Thanks for providing such helpful content!
This is gonna be very helpful this winter when I need to do this on my own fork. Awesome job guys.
“Not really broken until it’s clean and broken” should be a t-shirt
"Not really dead until it's warm and dead"
That's a Halloween t-shirt idea
Awesome video, love it. For me as a beginning home mountain bike mechanic, you guys make learning how to work on my bike less frightening!
Just beautiful. Love that you have fear on trying something new but do it anyway to surpass those fears. I'm in the same boat but thank you for the video. Keep up the good work
You guys are fun to watch with your reparte and antics. Making it fun is 90% of the challenge!
That was extremely well filmed, edited, scripted and performed... Thank you so much for a perfect tutorial to something that can seem very intimidating as a home mechanic !!
I love your content, keep it up
Best fork service tuition video on CZcams by far🙌🙌
Enjoying these bike maintenance vids. Learning something too. Thanks
Great series of videos. Especially the summaries at the end. THANK YOU 🙏
Great video. But first step must be cleaning entire fork before disassembly.
Just yesterday I changed the rear shock on my bike.
First step?
Wash the whole bike.
Always do it whatever work is at hand
It makes it easier not to get dirt where it must not go.
@@karlsantos aw c'mon! Dirt goes everywhere!
Just did it today after watching this video and the GMBN tech channel one. Wasn't exactly easy, but done now and the fork is amazing. Silky smooth. Should have done it a long time ago.
Thanks, Syd. You make learning FUN!
Excellent! I didn't think I'd ever have the nerve to tackle that job, but now think I could do it. Thanks!
Another entertaining video Syd. I will definitely use it as i so this to the 3 forks in the family that need this service
You guys are great. Syd, your really remind me of my significant other, full of questions and saying doohickey. And as a beginning a new mechanic myself I'm learning something new
I really love this new channel!!! These videos are very helpful, keep it up!
Lovin this channel more and more with each video!
I was planning on doing this service to my fork today! Fingers crossed I don't ruin anything 🤞🏻Loving these videos!
Great video, super clear on both what and why; love the format!
great video, very informative and easy to understand. Will definitely be tackling this service soon. Hope you also do a full fork service video in the future. thank for the great content!
Ironically I was servicing a Fox 34, drinking some coffee when your video popped up.
I love the intro🔥it’s so cool and simple. Have a good day!🤙👍
Love to watch your vids, nice and clear and easy to do it your self .. THANKSSSS, and have a cup of tea ...
I love that you guys do this the same way I do. PVC for the win!! Of course, I don't have those fancy lower seperator doo hickeys but..s'all good.
So funny cos I started doing seal sounds the second you brought them out too! I'm always doing it, cant resist 😂🤣 another great video guys
Great Video....just keeping simple for those that are not great bike mechanic..thank you
Great video. These instructions will be a great help when it is time to service my front fork
I'm learning too. You have a great teacher! Thank You.
I’ve seen these how to’s before but it still looked scary. Now I feel like I could do it myself easily!!
I never knew this channel existed. But now suddenly it is the greatest channel in the world. Lol.
Really enjoying this series you're making bike maintenance really easy to follow.
Please do one on indexing gears this is an area I don't understand and would love to learn!!
That's next week's video!
New subscriber, unbelievable how you two get along so well!
Great vids! Educational, informative, and fun! I'm enjoying them even though I don't need to do anything to my bike... yet.
Okay I love these videos! I feel like this is how I would do the job.
Thanks for a great video. Its very helpfull for us first timers to see some one doing this for the first time. Compared to the pros with no struggle.
Not gonna say much but this was extremly helpful ,said by someone who never tried to or serviced his fork on his own and guess what I succesfully made it thanks
*Very cool that husband and wife can enjoy their bike lifestyle together without forcing it.*
Thanks guys this video is perfect!!
What a great video. Thanks! Great way to start my day!
The Videos are great! You guys are funny and work well together!
Thanks guys, thoroughly enjoying your walkthrough methods. I can do this! 👍
You can do it!
Small tip: on open ended spanner is easier to use than a screwdriver to get old dust seals out
Great information, and great to see a girl working through the process.
This is a great channel. I've learned a ton of info.
Oh my gosh! Such a helpful video.
This whole video is comedy gold!😂😂😂
These videos are giving me ideas for Christmas presents...tools and lubes!
Definitely! We're planning a "good tools to get started" video and a holiday gift guide!
You guys are great. Thank you so much, I have an old Float100r on a KLEIN Palomino V and I want to grind the rim brake mounts off and paint the bottoms and the crown to match the "legendary" color shift blue paint (it's a full suspension cruiser essentially with gold and yellow accents). Going to be tricky, I know, but disassembly seems to be the best course of action per heat and all, I already cooked a set of skeletal brakes, per heat from the Dremel, and don't want to make that mistake on these forks. Thanks again and keep up the tutorials, you're the awesome Syd.
I love this channel. Just subscribed
Good job Syd.
Really good video guys!
Enjoyed that, great tutorial will refer to this when I do mine... at some point 😁
That thumbnail perfectly summarizes why this channel is awesome! :D
Thanks for that guys feel confident doing this myself know 👍
awesome video series. Thank you
Great channel idea you two.
that was super helpful, thanks y'all!
I’d love to see a video on maintaining the front and rear hubs. How to tell/what to do when they are loose, proper tightness etc.
The internet and CZcams content that I never knew I needed but would now die without. Lol.
Great vids guys :) 🚲
Such a great channel 👌🏼👌🏼👌🏼
hey! thanks for your video! it was fun to watch and easy to follow. my partner did this as a joint project (first for us both) and i now have an almost new fork! yay :D
Awesome!!!
That was really fantastic guys. As a few people have noted, the theme of "Newbie learns to do advanced maintenance" makes everything much more approachable. I'm, generally, a really solid mechanic, but have a fork (not Fox, but as Mackay notes, they all work generally the same) that is serious need of a service.
Unfortunately, the rebuild kits for Suntour forks are really hard to get in Australia, grrrrrrr (will just have to buy the correct oil, and re-use the seals).
Thanks again guys.
We usually just do the oil and don't worry about the seals, so you should be fine. Might be worth pulling the foam o-rings out though and trying to clean then a bit (probably with just water and dish soap) because if they're super dirty they're just holding dirt against your stanchions and don't hold the oil as well.
@@sydfixesbikes Again, thanks for the advice guys.
Awesome video! Subscribed 👍👍
Welcome!
Great video!
Syd: Bike workshop Super 👌Repair tools are well arrangement👍 Nice video ✌️ Kochin FAT BIKE and MTB buddy 🤘
That is one cute ride.
Nice video guys, keep it going😘
Great. video! Very helpful.
EXCELLENT instruction AND the two of you make it not only easy but lots of FUN!! Fun to watch also!! Thank you both you two together are a riot! AND you did an excellent job of presenting how easy a seriously difficult job (To the unknowing), can be easily done by an average cyclist. Just might to suggest Syd wear some safety glasses in case of flying tools that slip or oil gushing out sometime?
Ah, good idea.
OK, now this I needed.
I've always been terrified of touching my suspension. It's the only regular-ish maintenance thing I still go to the bike shop for every single time.
I'll try to do it myself next time 👍🏼👍🏼😎
Fork lower service and basic air can service on shocks is super easy (provided you have the correct tools). Assuming you have a work stand and basic tools, the extra tools needed for a fork service will pay for themselves on the first lower service you do.
@@setransou agreed. I've been riding for 5 years and wrenching on my bike for about 4, but I live in an apartment and while it's not tiny, I can't justify the space for a work stand... Maybe I'll look into a wall mounted alternative or something, but yeah. I'll look into investing into the few things I'm missing and get all the stuff necessary to do this. Thanks!
@@Leo_Inclan I hang my bikes in the ceiling with a "bike lift" meant for storage to work on them, not as sturdy as a proper work stand but it takes no room when not in use and gets the job done..
Hey this is a great video!!
Love it!
cool video!
I have to say though on that fork with a service that long overdue, I would have cleaned the entire thing inside out and also removed the air spring, cleaned and relubed that. Who knows how much dirt was already in there everywhere.
Other than that, you addressed exactly the points that every one doing this for the first time is afraid of!
very helpful video
Thanks for representing women in bike mechanics! Everytime I pick up parts to work on my bikes from the local classifieds the guys always go "oh I didn't know you were a woman!" Girls work on bikes too!!! So empowering.
good job
cool video. I'll try that sometime.
Thanks!
These are great.
I just sent my daughter's fork and shock off to Fox. No that I've seen this the next time I will give this a shot!
Fork service and steering tube cutting are the most scaring tasks for me! With this video I'm a little more confident on the first one...
Steer tube cutting is quite straight forward as long as you remember to put everything on before you measure (bearings, spacers, stem, additional spacer or two). Macky might have forgotten to include the stem one time... That was really bad!
As you found, a screwdriver is kind of a chaotic way to remove the dust wipers. It's easier if you use an open-ended wrench--they have one prong that points up and one that points down when you hold them sideways. Insert the upwards prong under the edge of the wiper and push down on the handle. I think the best size is something like 17mm but I just grab a handful of wrenches and test them until I find the one that fits perfectly.
Good tip. We saw that on the Fox website too, but not until after we'd used a screwdriver 😁