Raiders of Scythia in about 3 minutes

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  • A short summary of Raiders of Scythia in about 3 minutes
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    Designer,Shem Phillips,
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Komentáře • 80

  • @hanng1242
    @hanng1242 Před 3 lety +9

    Three things:
    1. Kumis must be spent before rolling the dice.
    2.This game might not have all the expansions, but a lot of stuff from the expansions have been made part of the game. Kumis is identical to mead from the Hall of Heroes expansion. Also, the Meeting Tent combines the actions of the Gate House and the mead part of Mead Hall. Similarly, the Chief's Tent combines the actions of the Long House and the Quest part of the Mead Hall. The Quest mechanic from Hall of Heroes has been combined with the Offering mechanic from the Raiders of the North Sea base game. The Jarls from Fields of Fame are gone, but the Wounds mechanic has been integrated into normal raiding, and the Valkyrie mechanic and track have been removed. Similarly, the Renown track has been removed as well such that there is only one VP track rather than 4 different tracks to keep track off. Gold from Raiders of the North Sea has been split into two types of plunder - Gold itself for scoring, and Wagons for doing stuff like raiding higher level areas. The heroes from Raiders of the North Sea have been replaced by one permanent hero selected at the beginning of the game that gives a unique special action at the Town Centre. As you mentioned, horses have replaced armour, but the eagles are more interesting; some allow the associated crew member's Town Centre action to be used w/o discarding the crew member from the crew, others allow the crew member to double up on their special crew ability, which can lead to stuff like the Conqueror granting 4 VP just for raiding Assyria (N.B. the max VP on the board from a raid in Assyria itself is 4). Unless one really likes Jarls, or likes the overkill Renown bonus, there is not much from the Raider of the north Sea expansions that cannot be found in Raiders of Scythia.
    3. I think the Raiders of Scythia art is more "American comic book" style and the Raiders of the North Sea art is more a "stylized animation" look (like that from Samurai Jack). However, the difference isn't just cosmetic; I find that some of the Raiders of Scythia personalities look quite similar to other ones, so the Raiders of the North Sea cards are easier to identify at a glance.
    EDIT: One more thing - Herodotus writes that the Amazons came from Scythia, so all the female crew members going on raids makes thematic sense in the game, unlike in Raiders of the North Sea.

    • @wehavemagnums
      @wehavemagnums Před 2 lety +3

      Thanks for all this really useful extra information

  • @sakaarnayak666
    @sakaarnayak666 Před 4 lety +16

    I'm in love with your channel! Your 3-minute board game reviews are just the BEST!

  • @TheTomAbz
    @TheTomAbz Před 2 lety +3

    You had me at Eagle and Horse

  • @hannibalbarca2928
    @hannibalbarca2928 Před 4 lety +4

    It is written by the Byzantine sources that they call the Turks Scythian.
    When presenting the Gokturk Emperor's letter to the Zemarkos Byzantine Emperor, he said:"Today, the nation we call Turk, formerly called SCYTHİAN. This letter was written with the letters SCYTHİAN." (28)
    SOURCE = (28) - Edounard Chavannes, Documents sur les Tou-kiue Occidentaux, Paris, sf.235,240,237,238

  • @thechriscormier
    @thechriscormier Před 3 lety +6

    SUCH great artwork in this game! I want to play it!

  • @3MBG
    @3MBG  Před 4 lety +15

    So, raiders revised, raiders of scythia. It doesn't invalidate the original game, but I think it does a lot of the core functions better. Really curious to see how well its received, if people think the changes are as good as i do. Or whether its the sort of second edition that doesn't displace the original. I'll be selling my copy of North Sea, or giving it away. I wonder what others will do.

    • @JamesFincham
      @JamesFincham Před 4 lety +5

      Won't be getting rid of Raiders of the North Sea due to the sheer amount of content we have for it (playmat etc). I think the Mico's art is a little more appealing and the iconography of RotNS a little cleaner. Looking forward to a full play through to get a good idea of how the changes affect the gameplay.

    • @dylangajewski
      @dylangajewski Před 4 lety +2

      Sadly I've purchased North Sea + expansions too recently to justify getting the younger, prettier model

    • @syhchiang
      @syhchiang Před 4 lety +2

      I don’t like the art style either. Fortunately, I have already got the Raiders in full already.

    • @queerchameleon
      @queerchameleon Před 4 lety +3

      Have to say the art style is a huge draw back for me.

    • @RaynorJ2
      @RaynorJ2 Před 4 lety +1

      I'm the opposite of many that replied. I sold my copy of RoTNS with both expansions and playmat for this game. I'm out about $10 of what I paid for it all, but this game has so much more to look forward too. For one, variable player powers will make this game so much more enjoyable than the North Sea game. The North Sea game is a blast, but can feel samey after a few plays. This game seems to take the best elements of the expansions and incorporate them into a smaller package, plus it comes with the solo cards inside the box.

  • @meshuggner
    @meshuggner Před rokem +1

    Love "6 Months in a leaky boat" one of my favorite songs.

  • @IDH2008
    @IDH2008 Před 3 lety +11

    Totally wanna get this one!! I always love it when cultures outside the norm get a chance to shine in a game!

    • @peterpana5398
      @peterpana5398 Před rokem

      Scythians are anglo saxon

    • @---qb1bf
      @---qb1bf Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@peterpana5398I challenge your claim. Provide sources.

  • @Tombonzo
    @Tombonzo Před 4 lety +5

    Yeah looks good. Hopefully they do come out with expansions! Glad to see the Solo cards are already in this box!!

  • @richardsaunders9214
    @richardsaunders9214 Před 4 lety +5

    I’ve just spent 6 months in a leaky boat, then I come from the land of the ice and snow! Whew, I’m exhausted! Thanks for the review (and I got the Split Enz reference even though I’m from the USA! I imagine Most people got the zep ref)

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 4 lety +2

      Aotearoa!
      Such a memorable opening to a song verse.

  • @khew1
    @khew1 Před 2 lety +3

    This channel is amazing! When I'm interested in a game I see if you've reviewed it then 9 times out of 10 I then know if I want to research more into it

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 2 lety +5

      Cheers. Exactly the purpose of the channel, to give you just enough info to know if you want to dig deeper

  • @Althemancayer
    @Althemancayer Před 3 lety +1

    Nice review as always! I don’t like the board but love the cards

  • @antoniovistcoatis1541
    @antoniovistcoatis1541 Před 4 lety +2

    Good looking game. Sold! Never played Raiders of the North Sea.

  • @nerdfatha
    @nerdfatha Před 4 lety +4

    hmmm. A worker placement game is one genre I am lacking. The fact that it has a solo mode is a major plus. And my lord, that art. I almost want this just to drool at those gorgeous cards.

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 4 lety +2

      Its interesting to me, because the last game by the same artist, many people did not like at all. I thought it was good, but that this is much much better

    • @JamesFincham
      @JamesFincham Před 4 lety

      @@3MBG Do you mean Circadians? I avoided it because of initial impressions of the art, but picked it up in a recent sale. The art has grown on me after a couple of plays and I actually quite like it now; it certainly fits the theme quite well. As for the game, it's really good. Played with the family and we all found the dice work placement really engaging!

  • @xoxososoe8308
    @xoxososoe8308 Před 4 lety +4

    Looks good

  • @WeAreSoPredictable
    @WeAreSoPredictable Před 4 lety +1

    Your best pun and video outro *ever!*

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 4 lety +2

      Thank you! I half expected most people not to get what pithier means and think i was just make a silly rhyming sound.

  • @Superion74
    @Superion74 Před 4 lety +5

    I have RotNS (with Fields of Fame; I'm waiting for Hall of Heroes to be reprinted), so I'm going to pass on this one because they do seemed a bit too similar, even down to the "put down one Worker/pick up another Worker" mechanic.

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 4 lety +3

      Well, its basically a reimagining on the Raiders of the North Sea, so yeah.

  • @CarlosRodriguez-ez3ls
    @CarlosRodriguez-ez3ls Před 2 lety +1

    Great review Jarrod! I can't help but prefer the art & theme of Raiders of the North Sea. Thanks!

  • @stevecollins9993
    @stevecollins9993 Před 3 lety +1

    This was posted 7 months ago and I've been eyeing this game. Has it made it back to the table much? Wasn't sure if there's a heck of allot replay value.

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 3 lety +1

      Not much, but thats because i played a lot of Raiders of the North sea before it.

  • @bignosebrett1521
    @bignosebrett1521 Před 4 lety

    Quite like the art style, played Raiders a few times but this looks better other than the fact i've got a few viking theme games.

  • @PaulLarke1980
    @PaulLarke1980 Před 4 lety

    I hope that's the same land of ice and snow from the midnight sun where the hot springs flow.

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 4 lety

      It is, my review of raiders of the North Sea opens with "you come from the land of the ice and snow from the midnight sun where the hot springs flow.", so i thought i'd homage back to my own homage of led zed

  • @mariocrest
    @mariocrest Před 3 lety +1

    So, do you think that I can replace Raiders of the North Sea with all expansions, for Raiders of Sythia?
    Maybe don't cover all the options that the expansions provide, but it seems that has the same mechanics.
    And everything would be in one box.

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 3 lety +3

      From what i gathered, Scythia > Core box. But if you love the expansions then Raiders with everything > Scythia.
      That's the discussion i've had with people about it

  • @kanesanders1579
    @kanesanders1579 Před 4 lety +1

    I thought I read somewhere that parts of the expansions were pulled in to this design so it’s already a “complete package”.

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 4 lety +2

      It is, and it isn't. It's like some ideas from them were tuned and streamlined and added. But some people like ALL THE TRIMMINGS!

    • @kanesanders1579
      @kanesanders1579 Před 4 lety

      I don’t have RotNS so I’m going to go ahead and trust the chef on this one 😉

  • @arthureames9715
    @arthureames9715 Před 4 lety +3

    I am super excited for this! Already pre-ordered. I got into RotNS on iOS and really liked it, but wanted the expansions. I am mostly a solo player so hunting down the automa deck wasn’t appealing.
    But this is just perfect for me! Can’t wait!

  • @mazmo_
    @mazmo_ Před 4 lety +1

    Is the ressources will stay all hexagons shaped wooden pieces ?

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 4 lety +2

      Yep, I actually like it as you put them in a bag and blind pull them out. With North Sea, you could feel the difference.

  • @DooDooDaddyTV
    @DooDooDaddyTV Před 3 lety +1

    Would you recommend this game or one of the West Kingdom titles?

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 3 lety +1

      Depends on your needs/number of players etc. This is probably the best one for low/mid complexity and 2-3 players

    • @DooDooDaddyTV
      @DooDooDaddyTV Před 3 lety +1

      @@3MBG yeah I usually have 2-4 players. I'm definitely gonna snag this

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 3 lety

      Paladins is better if you want a more complex game, and architects works best at 4-5

    • @DooDooDaddyTV
      @DooDooDaddyTV Před 3 lety +1

      @@3MBG ooo Paladins it is then. Thanks for all of the replies!!

  • @m-sousa
    @m-sousa Před 4 lety

    I liked that ending ahahaha
    I am still debating weather to get this one or not. I also don't care too much about the armour track from RoNS, but I do like the valkyrie and, after trying it, the fame tracks. Everyone praises Hall of Heroes, but I found Fileds of Fame more interesting (playing as 2p) with the fame and the Jarls.
    Having this, I find the crew combos in RoS more interesting. And the leaders and the new dice... For sure I will want to try it and then decide it for myself.
    Thanks for the review.

    • @RaynorJ2
      @RaynorJ2 Před 4 lety +1

      I know the Valkrie are out, but the wounds in RoTNS didn't kill your crew, only weakened them. I believe the wounds in this game can actually kill your crew, but i'm not for sure.

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 4 lety

      Yep, you can kill crew

  • @N2HeroProductions
    @N2HeroProductions Před 4 lety

    Hm I think I might stick with tracking down Raiders and it's expansions and solo deck (I know there is an app, but physical for completion-ism). I've only played the base game once, but from watching videos on the expansions I think I prefer the dying & Valkyrie track over the wound system, it's why I probably wasn't going to play with the Jarl expansion on the regular. I much prefer the board and art for North Sea, plus matches with my Explorers and if I get Shipwrights. I've loved my play at RotNS and think it has a space in my collection, eventually.
    Thanks for the summary video!

    • @N2HeroProductions
      @N2HeroProductions Před 4 lety

      @Sunnypsyop Thank you for the offer. It depends on the price and when I could convince my dad.

  • @barryhatchel
    @barryhatchel Před 4 lety +1

    I usually like tuned reimaginings and I want to sack Rome elephants be damned.

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 4 lety +2

      A tuned reimagining is the perfect way to describe this, so yeah. Enjoy

  • @RaynorJ2
    @RaynorJ2 Před 4 lety +2

    Only downside is Shem has said he has no plans for a expansion. I would love some more options if this game ends up playing better than North Sea. Maybe not needed, but it would still be nice.

    • @RobGThai
      @RobGThai Před 4 lety +1

      I believe when the North Sea came out, he also has no plan for expansion. If this game gets the same level of attention then there’s a chance. Personally, I prefer Mico styles much more but this one has its charm in a way. This style would works very well for Egyptian theme imo.

    • @thelastmotel
      @thelastmotel Před 3 lety

      @@RobGThai He said again very recently that Scythia would be a standalone product, with no expansions and no spin-offs.

  • @davidland8217
    @davidland8217 Před 4 lety +2

    Frustrating to have finally got the North Sea expansions, to find out this game is meant to be better. If only I had unlimited funds.

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 4 lety +3

      Different. As i say in the video, i think its better to North Sea by itself, but not necessarily with the expansions.

  • @jlohry
    @jlohry Před 4 lety +2

    Any thoughts on a release date?

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 4 lety

      Pre-orders should be soon. Release date not too far away. The review copy i got was literally one of the production proofs, so its all done in that regard

    • @jlohry
      @jlohry Před 4 lety +1

      3 Minute Board Games Nice! Very exciting to hear. Thanks so much.

  • @tfpp1
    @tfpp1 Před 3 lety +2

    Is it weird if I wanna play Raiders of the North Sea, then play Scythe...and then play Raiders of Scythia?

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 3 lety +1

      A little, yes

  • @TheShapingSickness
    @TheShapingSickness Před 4 lety

    I cannot wait for this game! I wish it would be published in Spanish

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 4 lety

      It might be eventually. I know the first run is English, but it is going out in German i think as well? Depends on distribution deals for the company as Garphill basically only make games and get others to do the publishing outside NZ

    • @Max-pj9km
      @Max-pj9km Před 2 lety +1

      It will be publish in Spanish at the end of January, 2022.

    • @TheShapingSickness
      @TheShapingSickness Před 2 lety

      @@Max-pj9km oh that's awesome! Thanks for the heads up

  • @dave0754
    @dave0754 Před 4 lety +1

    I only tried Raiders or the North Sea on the app and I wasn't a fan, mainly because of the dying mechanics and always running out of something to raid (cards, food, gold...). I'll add this one to my list of games to follow, but I might try before I buy if I can.

    • @josecerezonavarro8992
      @josecerezonavarro8992 Před 4 lety +1

      That is actually solved with the expansions.... which make the game a complete euro.

    • @Skorrigan
      @Skorrigan Před 3 lety +1

      Try Palladins of the West Kingdom

  • @yapx
    @yapx Před 3 lety +1

    thought it would be a gold medal game

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 3 lety +1

      If raiders of the north sea didnt already exist, it likely would have been

  • @blackout9814
    @blackout9814 Před 2 lety +1

    North sea had better art IMHO

    • @3MBG
      @3MBG  Před 2 lety +2

      I seem to be in the minority that don't really dig the micos art that much, i prefer this one :)