Heinkel He-111 walk-around: What's the difference between German and Spanish He-111s?
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- Spain continued to use the German Heinkel He-111 even after World War 2 but had to make some changes - Let's look at the main one's!
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Hey, where is the rest of the museum? You strolled into a museum with military aviation, and all you give us is the Heinkel 111?
Do Germans appreciate their technical history e.g. the He-111, the way that other nationalities venerate their planes like the American B-17 or the British Lancaster? I'm just curious. No hate.
Ein sehr stolzer Deutscher
Kommen sie nach Amerika wir haben mehrere wirklich tolle Luftmusen
i have a video idea for you ........ju87 stuka inside the cockpit. keep up the great work
I live in McAllen Texas. As a young boy I did a lot of volunteering at The CAF. I got to ride in their 111 casa and number of times Among a number of other warbirds. Years before it’s very sad accident. Even as a boy the cabin and cockpit were very cozy in flight
The Spanish AF Museum has both an He111 and a C2.111 in their collection.
*passing Hermann Göring's uniform*
one of many, many, many:)
The US Army has both his marshal's batons in seperate museums.
There is also one of his uniforms at the military museum in Dresden. I think Hugo Boss designed them which helps explain why the Luftwaffe officers looked rather posh compared to their counterparts.
@EnglishXnXproud you don't represent my England mate, the war ended in 1945--and had it not been for our US allies----we wouldn't be watching this.
@EnglishXnXproud Please read the history of the Eighth Air force and it's contribution to the European theater of operations... Yeah, we should have them and we are keeping them.
@@mybluebelly Hugo Boss produced uniforms but he never designed any.
Come to Madrid, we have a gorgeous B type!
The "Museo del aire" is one the best warplane museums in Europe!
I wish I had been able to make it when I was in Madrid!
Just put in on my bucket list, I only did the Napoleonic war last time, thnx for the tip. Does Spain also have warbird rides/training? :)
They put one in a spanish museum and call that place "Katze", since the german is stationed in Gatow ;)
No, es un E-1
One of my favorite WW2 planes, the he 111 had very aerodynamic design, the heinkel has earned its place in aviation history
By the way: the guys building these airplanes in Spain after the war were still Germans. They had no other job opportunities in Germany itself at that time.
I strongly disagree. My father worked building those planes in the factory of Construcciones Aeronáuticas in Seville.
@@MigueQuinta Thank you for your reply. I grew up in Madrid and went to the German school back then. Many parents of my class mates worked at CASA. Germans were crucial for the development of Spain after the war. PS: I am not German.
@@snax_4820 You say that like Spain had not developed the Hispano motors and cannons that downed many German airplanes...
Just some of them
in case someone is wondering, its real name is C-2111 also known as Pedro
I saw the last flying casa 2.111 at airshow with my dad back in 1990s, too bad that plane crashed in 2003, they need to restore more casas and heinkel he 111s in the future, this classic plane deserves respect
Actually, the Spanish 111s (called "Pedros") were used in combat, both in the SCW and in the Ifni war 1957; Spain already operated some jets (F-86, P-80), but being a war against Morocco, a protegée of the US, the Spanish Air Force weren't allowed to use the American material, having to rely on He-111s for ground support and counter-insurgency.
Merlins actually look pretty slick on a He-111 unlike those Buchon monstrosities...
Buchon is great
Restore more heinkel he 111s, this is one of my favorite WW2 planes, it's aerodynamic design is so attractive, I built a 1/48 scale model of one a long time ago
Very cool..thankyou
How?
@@a.company822 informative and illustrative
Fascinating facts that surface about these wonderful old machines. I immediately checked that the model kit I have is the correct German HeIII. It is. Excellent video sir.
In 2015 there was a temporary exhibition in Rotterdam to commemorate the bombing of the city 75 years before. They shipped this actual plane to the museum.
Remember when I first saw the He111 in Norway (Gardemoen) on a air show was a grate moment in my life love this plane.
The Battle of Britain museum in Hendon, London have a real German Heinkel He111 & it's a very rare late war H20 variant.
Iconic bomber.
Those Merlins on the Heinkel don't look as bad as the Merlins on the Buchons. Look quite good actually.
Another good video as always Bis.
Excellent video like always. Hope you are having a good day.
The HE111 was one of the most outstanding beautys in the Sky. Thank you so much for your introduction.
This is my favourite bomber... Thank you so much! 😍
My grandad would have disagreed with you because he flew Lancaster bombers in ww2. Wish I could see one in real life.
@@arealscotsman thats cool, was he parr of a dam busting raid?
@@gerhard6786 No he flew bombing missions in Germany. He also flew a plane called a mosquito as I have pictures. He was really messed up after the war and never flew again.
I was just there last year on a rainy day in March. Great exhibits. It's odd how the Airport is seemingly just in a residential neighborhood. I also once had the opportunity to see a flying 111 with the Merlin engines, which was Franco's personal transport.
He-111 with Rolls Royce engines. Almost an oxymoron.
The Spanish also put a Merlin in the Messerschmitt Bf 109, I only found out when one flew over me at an airfield in Yorkshire and I thought it sounded like a Spitfire!
As is Jews flying the Avia- S-199 (a Czech copy of the ME-109-G6) against Egyptian Spitfires in the 1948 Arab-Israel-Arab war.
Oh my God !!!
Alles Idioten hier !
YES thank you for doing the he 111, it's my favorite out of ww2
It was also a favourite of Spitfire pilot's as well.
@@nickhanlon9331 Not quite true...
Most Heinkels were actually shot down by Hawker Hurricanes. The Spitfires were present in lower numbers at that time, and were better used against the german fighters. In the end, the British used their fewer fighters in a most effective way, thus enduring the huge german offensive.
A Spanish bomber done up in German markings. I suppose they had to work with what they could get, but I also wonder why they didn't restore it to the German configuration.
Maybe it's in Battle of Britain (the film) livery?
Big man Bismarck producing the top quality videos ❤️👊🏿
I didn’t even know the Spanish had any He-111’s
We have a lot of German equipment. Mostly due to the relationship during the Spanish Civil War and Second World War. Still nowadays we have a lot of German equipment.
They are the ones used in the film the Battle of Britain
@@nigeh5326 And they are how you can tell when the stock footage from that film was recycled, any time you see an He-111 with Rolls-Royce Merlins, it's footage from The Battle of Britain.
@@nigeh5326 And don't forget that the great movie used not only the Spanish Air Force planes, but crews too!
I knew about the engines being the other way up on the Spanish He-111, same as on the Spanish Me-109, as I had seen them on the film The Battle of Britain. Both aircraft, ironically, using the Merlin engine.
If you have ever seen the film then you may know that the aerial shots were filmed using a North American B-25 Mitchell with the camera placed where the upper turret would have been.
It seems that the camera was placed at the rearmost part of the B-25 fuselage, and served the purpose excellently! Compared to the ridiculously skechy computer generated graphycs now in vogue, the true filming of that greatest movie was the best of the best!
You have no idea how appreciative of this video I am. My nutty out there bucket list dream is to build a German reproduction of the Heinkel 111 with reproduction or restored Jumo engines. It's a stupid fantasy, but I wanna try before I kick the bucket. Working on my Aerospace degree and I get my BA in a year. Thank you!
Cheers, happy you enjoyed it
Great video as always. I just wanted to say if you ever want to talk about the Bf110, there is a complete one (one of only two left) in a private museum north of Copenhagen in Denmark. I don't know the specifics, but it is in a private WW2 collection and is open to public.
Thanks for the tip
@@Crashed131963 They didn't need them anymore. The raw basic materials were of more importance than keeping aeroplanes around. The German people of the time wanted rid of anything that reminded them of the war.
@@Crashed131963 Nice!!!
Nice caught a few of your videos with bo funny stuff. Thanks for being here.
The most obvious diffenence is the inverted V12 engine in the original, where the exhaust stacks are placed in the lower part of the cowling.
Without watching your video, I recall in the movie "Battle of Britain" They used Spanish HE-111's and they had Merlin engines.
Brilliant well presented
Great Info, many thanks. I am going to convert a Matchbox model of the HE111 into a CASA 2111. This video will be very useful. Another difference between the two is the fairing behind the engine on top of the wing is larger on the CASA. Unfortunately not viewable due to the aircraft being raised on stands.
Bismarck, “sadly we don’t have many German HE-111 remaining”
Me, (with mixed feelings) smiles in Allied!
Bismarck Thank you for the Walk around Tour .
The RAF Museum London (Hendon) has an original H20 variant. It used to be in the now defunct :Battle of Britain' Hall, and is now in Hangar 5 but the museum is still adjusting things after a major refurbishment.
Yes indeed, I see it sometimes when I go there
That radiator installation on the Spanish 111 makes it look very much like a turboprop.
Man this channel's popularity has fallen off a lot 😣 this deserves more attention !
Come to Madrid, to the Getafe Air Museum, its fantastic. Thank you for the great videos.
In the 1950s the US sold new jet engine planes to the spanish air force under the condition that they were only to be used in the defense of the spanish mainland and not in colonial wars. For that reason the spanish used their version of the Bf109 and the CASA 2111 in the 1957 war against Morrocco, spanish paratroopers were also deployed in that war jumping from german-made JU52.
Also Franco's personal CASA had a conventional instrument panel instead of the HE-111 overhead instrument panel. Sadly is crashed killing the Confederate Air Force crew in 2003. This type of panel can be seen in a few quick scenes in the movie the Battle of Britain.
Enjoy your walk around and cockpit veiws in different aircraft very interesting,thank you.
In fact Flugwerft Schleissheim tricked me for years having the spanish Heinkel painted in Luftwaffe colors.
Last time i visited then the great surprise as they had changed the paintscheme.
😶
I think the Spanish He 111's were used in the film "Battle of Britain"
All the german planes in that movie were spanish. The Me-109 were the Hispano Aviación version.
yup, all spanish, they even repainted some HA-1112 as hurricanes to make bulk in some scenes
Maintenance was made easy in that film due to all of the aircraft being powered by essentially the same engines. Merlin XXs or similar. Spitfire, Hurricane, Me109 and Heinkel lookalikes
They were, I was totally amazed as a kid to see loads of aircraft in german "make up" on my first visit to Malaga !!
@@mogaman28 And the crews on the german planes were from the Spanish Air Force too.
I visited this museum last week because of your videos! It's a pity we did not meet :) BTW I was very disappointed to not meet bf-109 there, but I did find it in Technical Museum in Berlin.
Thank You for describing the difference between the Spanish and the German HE-111. Now I am more educated and knowledgeable.
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There is a HE111 H in the RAF museum at Hendon in the Battle of Britain hall. Quite an imposing aircraft for its time
It is now in Cosford, moved in 2018
Priceless History thanks wasn’t aware of that I haven’t been to Cosford for 10 years about time I took another trip there
@@nigeh5326 Some hotels in are give discounts for those going to museum. Ask about it. :-)
Priceless History thanks but I live down the road about 20 miles in Stourbridge. I have been there for airshows and to see the museum a few times. When I was younger loved to see the Lightning’s on display there as they were and are my favourite classic jet
Heard that with all of the glass in the cockpit it felt like a greenhouse in there. There is a He-111 Casa in good shape in storage in a museum near Dallas, TX
Thats the plane that crashed. It no longer exists.
Awesome video.... love the 111 Hey, where did you get the jacket? I’m liking it.....
Thanks for this. Very interesting to see the interior of the schliesshiem facility. Must visit Munich again!
Hello ,military aviation history!!
Please,do a video of another german-no-german aircraft,the Hispano Aviación HA 1112M - 1L /C4K Buchón, the spanish version of the Bf 109! Today,lot of this planes fly as Bf 109 in films,and i think ther are some in museums. In the Dunkirk film,from 2017,the only bf 109 its one of these.
I learned something today. Great, short video. And I like how they mounted it.
I wonder how much different the performance was with the Merlins?
Excellent Question! I was wondering exactly that question. The Merlin could be somewhat lighter.
I would love to see this museum and especially this Heinkel-111!
Great video as always, Thank you.
Vertically loaded bombs! That certainly explains the weird, random way the bombs exit the plane. Always wondered why. Thanks!
Someone pointed to me, that it was done on purpose, to avoid risking bombs stuck preventing any bombs above the stuck one from being stuck too. I was always wondering that too!!!
@@alfredomarquez9777 it would also increase the available space for said payload and if I remember my physics correctly allow them to be dropped much more accurately
Exactly. And the same apllies for the ha-1112 buchon which is a bf-109 with a Merlín engine.
Both planes were made in Seville. The buchon was made in Triana and the HE-111 in Tablada.
@@mogaman28 Thanks for rhe info, There is too little known internationally about Spanish aeronautical construction at that time.
I love how this German museum puts the use of the aircraft in context. I wish all museums did this. They're romantic machines, but we should also remember that they were instruments of terror.
thecaveofthedead - yes! I agree totally. My mom was born in 1935, her a lieutenant in the Guardia Civiles who remained loyal to the constitution during the war. She recalls the bombings and moving from city to city as they fell to Nationalist forces. She recalls days of eating shoe leather and grass soup in the famine that followed the war... especially for those on the losing side.
@@ergodoy7741 And congratulations on Spain having its first progressive government in a very long time.
For now... unfortunately, the darkness is spreading :(
@@ergodoy7741 My father was comissioned in Spain just before the Spanish Civil War, as he was sent by the Mexican Navy to supervise the construction of several "Guardacostas" at the yards in Bilbao. He told me how great was Spain at that time, and how disastrous was their Civil war.
Excelente explicación enhorabuena desde España
This is such a terrific channel. Even if your not (like me) a knowledgeable aircraft follower.
When did you film this? I visited Gatow last week haha
LOL me too
Very informative thanks
great look at the ME111 I wish I could see the inside.. love your videos
Yeah that’s what I was going for thanks
Interesting point on the subdivision of the bomb cells for different size bombs - I was unaware of that. Thanks
Happy that you enjoyed it!
@@MilitaryAviationHistory Thanks for video, we appreciate it. But the design of the Bomb Bay deserves a more detailed explanation and discussion. It seems that the bombs were placed with their tail fins looking down... so that they turned around when falling. That is both puzzling and interesting. And storing them vertically would allow them to be released all at once?
In more conventional horizontally stacked bombs, like the Boeing B-17, the bombs go one by one, thus the impacts end up in a long and narrow strip (more exactly, two parallel rows). How would the impacts pattern be with the vertical storage used in the Heinkel?
Please can you help answer those questions?
it is easy to know the difference between the H 111 and the the spanish version: obviously it was fitted with the export Merlin 500 L/R, some structural differences and straight wings of the late He 111, different layout of electric cables and a dashboard similiar to the he 111P-2 version! it was a quite good and reliable bomber much limited by having a relatively small bomb load and of course the vertical arrangement of the bomb load causing erratic and imprecise discharge of it's load...
Good work and keep on posting!!!
"dashboard similar to the he 111P-2"? The CASA 2.111 is based on He 111H-16, with same instrument panel. The flying one in US had a greatly modified instrument panel.
@@pricelesshistory look carefully at the dashboard of the He 111P-2 displayed at Hendon air museum: it was already this way but I don't remember which version had the straight wings!! Regarding the CASA 2 111 was based on the He 111H-16 perhaps it may be but I'm not sure but regarding the version in America you are telling me so I believe you are right!
@@paoloviti6156 The Hendon 111 was moved to Cosford in 2018. It is an He 111H-20 which has a instruments on sides of cockpit. The existing 111P-2 is in Norway, and I have posted 4 videos of that one, including internal shots (and many still images exist). The American CAF CASA 2.111 had an American modified controls and instrument for 2 person flying (this was a unique 1 off version).
I am a huge fan of your work. Thanks for the amazing videos. For people like me, you sure make the world a better place. I would like to ask you a question, if it is permitted. One of these days I saw you streaming IL-2 Sturmovik, and I became impressed with the graphics! Not only the game's, but the menu's as well. Your user interface was far richer than mine, with cool icons and stuff, and when you were playing, well... The graphics were mind-blowing! My version of IL-2 was bought while ago, it came on a DVD. I am running update 4.13.2m, with a patch to allow playing it without CD/DVD, once my new computer has no optical drive. My laptop comes with a NVidia GeForce MX150 with 2GB of dedicated GDDR5 (core speed 1500Mhz) for high demand graphics, like gaming, and an Intel UHD Graphics 620, for low demand, mundane work. I know, not the best setup for gaming, but, I still would like to know how yours looks far better than mine. Are you using an entire new IL-2 version? Are you using a mod? Are you using things like SAS or Ultrapack? Thanks for taking the time to read it, and an answer would be very much appreciated.
Hey, thanks for the feedback. I think you might be confusing this new game with the old one. Google IL-2: Great Battles, and you should find it. As for the system requirements and if it runs on your PC, I can't tell.
@@MilitaryAviationHistory Thanks for the answer!
The merlin cowlings on the Casa He-111 look like they are based on the Fairey Firefly, even down the small intakes on either side. Great Video Ty!
Rolls Royce produced a 'power-egg' system for the Merlin, as used on Beaufighters and such likes, take a look at the Avro York. CASA were able to get Merlins, many of which were becoming 'surplus' as the RAF were moving on to more modern aircraft.
Go to East Kirkby, they have a cockpit section as well as a Lancaster that is in taxi condition.
Such a beautiful aircraft.
One time back in the 1970s in Austin, Texas, I saw a Spanish licendef Hispano Suiza BF-109. This aircraft was engined with a Rolls Royce Merlin engine.
That was probably Wilson 'Connie' Edwards, took these in payment for his time on the Battle of Britain film.
One of my favorite WW2 planes, more heinkels need to be restored
Thanks a lot mate!
Could you do a video about the B-17 bomber Old 666/Lucy tail number 41-2666 it is a very interesting story and a lot of misconceptions about it
Many Spanish built casa 2.111s were dressed as WW2 heinkels in the 1969 movie battle of Britain, some are still around I think today
You should come to Spain (your native land, admit it XD), and pay a visit to the Cuatro Vientos museum. Your eyes will pop out when you see what they have there (and cry tears of blood when you see how many of them are "stored").
You even have someone to act as a guide for you :P :P :P.
The curator?
@@MilitaryAviationHistory .....Shut up XD
Great video
I liked seeing your size vs the 111's size
Thank you for sharing. Very interesting.
The question here is which is which. I am supremely confident in my method. IF the exhausts are up high and there is a large lower air scoop it's a Merlin. Smooth engine cowl, low exhausts it's a DB. Simple and easy, always a good combination.
I read a story of an He-111 crash landing in a beach in San Sebastián. It was in the very last days of the war. It was supposed to be crew by an mid/high rank officer.
En ese aterrizaje tras un viaje alucinante al final de la guerra llegó a España Leon Degrelle y aquí se quedó viviendo
Legend has it that the Spanish version had a thick stout hook in the cockpit where the crew could hang a wineskin.
Bismarck my boi, you look really good when shaved
Wow i just think its awesome how you do this your like the chieftain but with aircraft
Great display with the falling bombs
Good vid bro.
any chance u can make a video of Zero??or other famous rap plans...tx u
Excellent commentary. This explains why the Heinkle 111's in the film, ''The Battle of Britain'', had Merlin engines. What happened to all those planes??
I think they're rebuilding one to fly at the Flying Heritage & Combat Armor Museum in Seattle. I'm not sure if they're turning it into a German version, but I read they have a pair of German engines.
Good video.
I've been to that museum!!! So this is what it feels like.
Thank you.
We have an orignal German one at Gardemoen in Norway, you should see that one too
Hopefully soon :)
here in madrid we used to have a he111 E in the national air museum but idk where the goverment moved it to another place so i wont see it soon. Also here in madrid there are some spanish bf109 G (Hispano Aviacion Ha1109) and a little but great collection. Pls come see it
Héctor G. Sacristan I would love to!! Thanks!
I should visit that museum this year. I've already been to the the Deutsches Technikmuseum twice. Gatow seems to be a bit far from the city center but I'll think about it.
we have an original H20 in England (RAF Hendon museum)
Interesting, Thanks.
Merlins. Also Battle of Britain, no German aircraft were harmed in that movie.
great video!