Heinkel He-162 in Combat (How Well Did The 'People's Fighter' Actually Do?)
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- Heinkel He-162, known as 'Volksjäger' or 'People's Fighter' was one of Germany's last ditch efforts to turn the tide of war. Plenty of videos on YT talk about its development, intended role, manufacturing etc but there's very little about the type's actual combat record. Did it achieve anything in those last days of WWII? Find out in this video.
Main sources:
- Robert Foryath - He 162 Volksjäger Units
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- MIroslav Bily, Miroslav Balous - Heinkel He-162 Spatz (Volksjäger)
- Marek Murawski - JG-1 Oesau (1944-45)
Christopher Shores, Chris Thomas - 2nd Tactical Air Force, Vol. 3: From the Rhine to Victory
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"If the glue holds" is a terrifying qualifier of an airplane's capabilities.
Yes, somehow nuts and rivets seem far more reassuring 😁
The glue was fine, until the factory that made it got bombed. The new manufacturer made glue that was so toxic that it ate through the wood. That problem was remedied before production ceased and the last airframes made were perfectly reliable.
They glue aircrafts these days also
@@andrslnks4804 - Yes, but the technology has come a long way since WWII.
@@scootergeorge7089 except boeing?
i actually met a 162 driver decades ago on the airshow road. he was one of the youths --an 18 YO that was tasked to fly the 162. he only made a few flights before he was shot down by a p-51 while moving 162s to a new AB. he crash landed his jet --survived being hit by a 50bmg . ended up in the US and joined the NAVY. he said the 162 was excellent to fly IF the glue held and the engine didn't blow--yet they failed very frequently
Was that Harald Bauer maybee? He was shot down while ferrying a 162. Flew for the US (don't remember wich branch) before and during Vietnam. He later did talks at airshows etc.
Thank you for sharing that!
When you have slaves building your airplanes...
I remember reading somewhere that the glue that was used was inferior to the intended glue. The Allies had destroyed the factory that produced the glue that the Germans needed, so, they used what was available instead. That led to aircraft breakups in mid flight. Gotta say, though, it was a beautiful looking plane for the time. I had a model of it when I was a kid.
You met Harald Bauer. He relates to one of the pilots who shot down a DeHavilland Meteor of 616 sq Near the Dutch border. Confirming perhaps Eric Browns prediction that the Volksjäger would run rings around the Meteor, had they met in combat.
Eric Brown flew the 162 after the war and said it was very responsive and delightful to fly.
He also said the p47 had a low mach limit ,he was wrong
@@ScoopsTV-History-om9mv Eric 'Winkle' Brown probably was flying other countries' aircraft without ordnance and not much fuel on board, so the handling characteristics would have been different. He also believed the ME 262 was a superior gun platform (less snaking) to the Gloster Meteor, which is hotly disputed these days.
There was little at the time that he didn't fly, so he was a VERY experienced pilot to say the least, as to the pilots who had to fly the 162 during the war they weren't even close to his league.
That really doesn't mean anything does it
He even said "it can fly circles around a Meteor". Surprisingly these quotes often result in angry seething by british (!) commenters lol
This is the best history lesson ive seen so far on he 162
Thank you very much for that positive feedback!
@@showtime112 Hey, do you have online access to digitalised archives of both German and Allied reports? Because for such a research, normally someone would have to sit in german archives and know german and live either in germany or somewhere in the EU and also have an access to compare the reports with Allied ones.
@@olgagaming5544 Afraid not. I can only rely on research done by other people (and made public).
People like to hate on it, but it's obvious that if this design was manufactured in the same conditions the US/UK, with better facilities, labour force and raw materials etc., and pilots were trained properly to operate it, it would have been hard to beat. The speed advantage was massive.
I agree, with proper testing and better production conditions, these fighters could have been effective for a while.
If my auntie had balls she would've been my uncle
Yeah, only five or six major problems to fix and everything would've been hunky-dory. Sure.
Don't forget, the Allies were also developing jet fighters at the same time, with both the US and UK having jets by this point. Even if the jets performed as designed, it wouldn't have done the Germans much good at this point in the war. The other issue with the German jets including the 262 was the difficulties they had targeting Allied bombers and other piston driven aircraft due to the large speed differential and the slow velocity guns. It took a lot of skill to make hits in the extremely limited window of time between max range and when they had to break away. Basically, the German jet program had little chance of actually stopping the strategic bomber campaign.
@@crudboy12the German jet engines were more advanced the Brit’s had a good engine with longer life but it quickly hit power inefficiencies whereas the German design became the basis for modern jets
Great history lesson He 162 the facts are rarely mentions.
Thank you for the feedback!
Another well presented and informative video
Glad you think so! Thank you!
Missing in history is the 162s used by Jg-84 and 85. They both picked up their 162s at the same time and flew in formation to their new base which is unknown. The accidently ran into an unescorted groups of American bombers and did considerable damage before they had to break off due to fuel. There is one book on Jg-85 that I have been trying to get a hold of to verify this story, but no luck yet.
What is the title and who is the author?
The animation on this video, coupled with the obvious research gone in to the history, is astounding. Incredible work. Hats off to you sir.
Thank you very much, this is high praise indeed!
Thank-you for an excellent telling of the He-162, my favourite of the early jet aircraft. Despite the appalling state the Germans were in, to design, test, build and put into service this aircraft in such a short span of time was a huge achievement ~ even if Ernst Heinkel did all he could behind the scenes to ensure his aircraft won the Volksjager competition despite there being better designs presented such as the Ta-183.
Proposed future iterations of the He-162 included; swept wings, forward swept wings, V tail, different engine fits including 1 or 2 pulse jets etc. Galland decried the very concept of the Volksjager, saying they should be concentrating on Me-262 production instead and the idea that barely trained Hitler Youth were to pilot what was a hot little plane were ludicrous, but Eric Brown RN said it was an exhilarating little plane to fly, would’ve run rings round the Gloster Meteor and that the Allies were lucky it hadn’t appeared earlier as in concert with the Me-262 it would have wreaked havoc on Allied bomber formations.
German utter genius and capability is no small thing i'd vouchsafe?
The idea that youth with some basic training could fly this jet was one of the most optimistic ideas in history 😁 And Eric Brown seems to have had one of the coolest jobs ever! Thanks for another comment!
The fact that this sleek little jet fighter flew at the end of WW2 totally blows my mind, the ME 163 and the 262 looked different and futuristic but this one with its wing tips and jet engine on top looked really really different...
That said, I wonder how the Heinkel 162 would have fared against the Gloster Meteor...
Well the metor was actually operationaö whilst the 162 was rushed amd flown by surivers ir cannonfodder. I cant imagine that the woukd have scored a singel kill against a metor whils losing atleast a hanfull of aircraft to accidents
I suppose nobody was yet sure how the future of fighter design would look like to everyone tried a different approach. The thing with an engine on top didn't catch on 😁 It is a shame that Meteor never faced the German jets.
@@showtime112 That makes sense, it was such a new type of technology nobody knew where things would go from there...
Victory would go to the best pilot in this comparison I think because both aircraft were very capable, one was faster while the other had much greater range, various combat scenarios would favor one aircraft over the other. I'd think the me262 might have manovering and some speed advantage and that by itself is often a deciding factor but... having more fuel, more flying time, can be decisive as well depending on a few other factors.
@@mikedearing6352 Skill means nothing when your wings fall off if you try to turn...
As a 50+ channel subscriber, how fortunate we are to have the technology to reproduce these actions so well... and by 'we' I mean our narrator, who tells these stories so engagingly and without padding.
Great channel, sir.
Thank you very much! This is a very positive feedback. I've been familiar with the simulation technology ever since the early days, the progress is quite amazing.
This is crazy. I was in my local modelling shop not 3 hours ago and they had a couple of Tamiya He-162s in my preferred scale of 1/48. No, I thought. Too outlandish. I will pick one up tomorrow...
Recently, I'm getting some feedback that my videos inspire people to build certain models. I should try to approach model companies for sponsorship 😁
RC or shelf jockey?
Absolutely loved this one! I'll revisit and watch again..several times, as I find the air war over Europe to be most interesting. For me anyway. Fantastic video!
I'm happy to hear that you enjoyed it so much! Happy re-watch 😁
They have a complete 162 in the Berlin technical museum, as well as a 109. Was amazing.
try Gatow Airport,- whole lotta goodies there too..
A really interesting piece of military history. So thank you very much
Thank you for watching and commenting!
Another fine production in the books. Keep on keeping on, Showtime112.
I'm happy to hear it, thank you!
Excellent video, content and commentary. Thanks
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you!
Another good video Showtime 112.
Thanks, I'm glad you liked this one too!
So happy to have found your channel mate! Great presentation, super informative too! Looking forward to binging your content this weekend. Keep up the great work, God speed!
I'm glad you did. I hope you like other content too and that there are plenty more people like you 😁
Great Job with this video! Much appreciated! I knew so little coming in and left feeling like i am ready to lookup more about this amazing time of the launch of the age of the single engine jet fighter age!
Thank you very much for the comment!
Amazing vid as always
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks!
This is the first video of the He-162 i ever seen. Well done video.
Thank you very much. There is a bunch of other videos but they focus on other aspects of this type.
Excellent video. Love your honest presentation of the research blended with the simulation of the events.
Thank you very much for the positive feedback! That is essentially what I go for.
That it flew as well as it did is a miracle in itself. Especially when one considers the circumstances of its manufacturer.
A good showing of its history in action.
Yes, the odds were not in its favor. Thank you for commenting!
Thanks again for this bit of obscure history.
Thank you for watching!
Thanks for these great video! My grand unkle was at the 1. Jagdgeschwader and was trained on the "Volksjäger" he liked it but told not to pull the flightstick too strong at the start.
Thank you for appreciating it and for sharing a personal relation. That agrees with what I've read, maneuvering the He-162 at low speeds should have been very careful.
Thanks for showing this plane. Interesting trivia
Thank you for watching!
An obviously well researched video - thank you !
Thank you for appreciating it!
Nice video. Excellent graphics.
Thank you for the feedback!
The He-162's didn't get many kills, but the squadron was new, the planes were not well tested before deliveries started so they had a lot of teething problems. It had an impressive armament package, but with really only two months to train, and constantly changing air fields, not much time to achieve anything.
Only 1 kill claimed and that was given to a flak crew, so yes, not many.
The odds were pretty bad, nobody can deny that. Thanks for another comment!
It only had 2x 20mm cannons.
@@louisavondart9178 Just like Spitfire, Bf-109, La-7 or Fw190D. It wasn't weak armament, especially since German 20mm shells were more powerful than others, and in this aircraft the guns were centerline instead of wing-mounted which always increased effectiveness. The real problem was abysmal amount of ammunition (barely 120 rounds per gun, while typical loadout of WWII fighter would be 200 rounds)
Absolutely lovely that yoh work in even something with little service record ae the He-162. Bravo.
Basically, in case such as this you cover many details which you would skip with an aircraft with a bigger combat record 😁 Thank you for another comment!
@@showtime112 of course and always! I love watching your videos and i absolutely love them.
Excellent video. Subscribed.
Thank you very much, I appreciate it!
Great story. The unknown episodes of WW2. Thanks for sahring it with us
Thank you for watching!
50k -- look at you.
Congrats, friend. On to 100k.
I used to think that youtubers with 25 K were big shots. Doesn't seem so anymore 😁 Anyway, thanks for the wishes!
Vrdeo of a rare slice of ww2 history. Thanks!
Thank you for the positive feedback!
I have often wondered about how effective the German ejection seats were in use.
So did the pilots --
Well, it was brand new technology and it could work under favorable circumstances. Perhaps in those cases the pilot might have just bailed out without the ejection seat but I'm sure that it increased the chances for survival.
The way I see it, the pilots would have no chance of survival without the ejector seat. With the seat, they had a small chance.
A small chance is better than no chance.
Heinkel remained in charge of ejection seat development through the war. Ejection seat was standard on all German test aircraft. Perhaps a dozen ejections occurred on service He 219 and I believe some crew on the He 177 had them. They were on the whole quite successful. They were not automatic. The canopy had to be manually ejected, feet placed in stirrups and then ejection initiated. Parachute had to be manually deployed.
-in modern zero zero ejection seats canopy is ejected automatically, feet retracted by straps into stirrups, ejection completed, parachute extracted by rocked and parachute instantly inflated by explode charge.
-The geometric seats, at least got you out of the aircraft
Having seen the plane in a Berlin museum, it is scary. To get into that is. Wood and a BMW unreliable engine. The ejection seat is supposed to stop you going into the jet engine, but no hope at low altitude.
it looks quite "spidery" to me as well. those spindly tail surfaces don't inspire much confidence , nor does the engine placement. or that its made of wood held together with wood glue --heat and wood glue ?? bad combo
@@jamesrogers5783 Yeah--like the Mosquito and we all know that was a very bad plane, wasn´t it?
the mossie was not jet powered and the brits had much better glue@@pg259
@@pg259different glue, vastly different construction skill.
@@edsmale I recall reading the preferred glue manufacturer's factory was badly damaged in an Allied air raid.
It was a revolutionary jet fighter but the glue used to hold it together wasn't reliable. Furthermore, the He-162 arrived too late in the war...
Heinkel HE 162 auch genannt der Volksjäger! Billig hergestellt, viel Sperrholz und auch schwer zu fliegen.
Again very good video.
Thank you very much!
Great work!
Thanks for the visit Chups!
I can’t tell you how much I love this channel..The great history and video fits perfectly together..Also this channel comes at a direct way of telling the facts about an aircraft or a conflict..Keep up the great work and will you do a part 2 on the Romanian Airforce during WW2..If not the Airforce of Hungry would be great to watch..Thank you🇬🇧👍
Thank you very much for such an awesome comment! I will cover more of the Romanian Air Force in the future but I'm not sure when exactly.
Another great video! The volksjäger is an interesting subject. I personally thought that its performance was much worse. In any case, a curious little plane that tried to push the envelope.
Thanks! I agree, such airplanes with their flaws and everything can sometimes be even more interesting than those which were just unbeatable.
Nice video 👍
Thanks 👍
The speed with which this aircraft was produced is often commented upon.
It's worth looking through Heinkel designs to find that a larger plane with similar layout existed in the form of calculations and drawings of basic airframe design, more than a drawing, less than a prototype.
Like with the existing North American A-36 Apache becoming the P-51 Mustang, this shortened development enormously.
Glad you did this assessment,one of my favourite late German aircraft tbh what other late war types you got plans to showcase next and keep up the good work buddy ??
Thanks for the feedback! There will probably be something about Me-163.
I really love the design. Unique plane designs are fun.
Unique is the word, nothing quite like it appeared ever again.
Great video
Thank you very much!
15:58 France flight tested a trio of He-162s in 1946-1948. At my birthplace: Mont de Marsan, south-west France. BA.118 Colonel Rozanoff, nowadays they fly Rafales (the base also got the first Mirage IVA nuclear bombers in October 1964). Whatever Eric Brown said of the He-162, french pilots hated the machine. There was one fatal accident mid 1948 after what the type was grounded. France used the type as a trainer to familiarize pilots with the coming jet fighters: Vampires and Ouragans.
Thank you for sharing the info, it's quite interesting.
The glue thing is easily explained, the original Tego Film glue factory had just been bombed flat, and so a substitute called Kaurit, which was more subject to moisture, sometimes causing failure.
Capt. Eric Brown loved the handling of the He162, saying it would ‘run rings around a Gloster Meteor jet, had they met in combat. In fact his prediction came true, when a Meteor from 616sq was shot down over the Dutch border by a Volksjäger in the last days of the war.
No Meteors were shot down in air to air combat in WW2. The Meteors themselves were highly restricted on what they were permitted to do, From their introduction in the summer of 1944 they were primarily for home defense against V-1s. AS 1945 rolled around several were moved to bases in Belgium, they had destroyed over 40 aircraft in ground attack operations by the time the war had ended, but not once had they ever shot down another aircraft in air to air combat, and wouldn't see any air to air losses until the Korean War against Russian and Chinese MiGs
Brown's View is also not as one sides as you say. He described the He162 as "built by a modelling enthusiast" due to the mostly wooden structure
"great to fly but a handful on take-off and landing"
"controls were as good as any he’d encountered, they could easily be mis-handled"
Didn't happen. I've read the 616 Operational Record Book and spoken with surviving pilots (about 20 years ago). The only losses they had in the final months came from a mid-air collision on 29 April 1945.
Grwat video. Subbed...👍
Thank you very much!
Another good video about lesser known Luftwaffe aircraft.
Thank you for the positive feedback!
The SALAMANDER, was built in a hurry, with a mix of wood and aluminium and the turbojet of the ME-262 which was ready.
It was easy to produce and cheap, it's was very important at the end of the war.
But it need more time to be well developped, unfortunatly it was the end the war, and the accident arrived very often. 320 was produced on 1945, this is an exploit in so little time !!!
L armée de l'air en à récupérer 3 et tester à Mont de Marsan entre 47 et 48. Malheureusement un pilote d'essai s'est planté dans un champ 3km après décollage. Un des 2 restant est exposé au musée de l'air du Bourget. J'ai même la photo !!!.
J'en ai vu un autre,. Me rappelle plus si c'était à IWM de Hendon ou Duxford. Par contre le me 262 c'est Hendon. J'ai pu le...toucher
@@dominiqueroudier9401
C'est une invention dans l'urgence de fin de guerre. Mais c'est une prouesse technique réalisée en un minimum de temps qui a été bien pensée. Cependant arrivant trop tard pour faire quoi que ce soit, elle fut oubliée comme beaucoup d'autres.
Il aurait fallu qu'elle soit mise au point en 42, là elle aurait pu faire faire mal aux bombardiers alliés.
@@jeannezehner9450 Par contre sais pas si plus fiable que le Me 262. Par contre manque de pilotes expérimentés.
Les 3 exemplaires captures ont permis aux pilotes du CEV de se faire la main avant de recevoir le premier lot de Vampire. Et c'est bien que à la fin de la vidéo il en a mis un aux couleurs de l,AA
The turbo jet engine they put in that was a marvel and it needed better metals that they didn't have access to, but time between overall was probably very short as the allies soon discovered in their testing. If they didn't have a good supply of parts , they had to park them. But interesting to see as the Reich collapsed what they held on to and were they ended up.
@@dominiqueroudier9401
Le ME-262 a deux turboréacteurs, c'est mieux, mais c'est tout, et puis il y avait le problème des pilotes expérimentés en fin de guerre.
Nice one.
Thanks! Glad you liked it!
One word...WOW!!!!
Great job!
Thank you very much for this positive feedback!
The Thunderbolt misidentification is funny, in the same way Allied ground troops often identified every German tank as a Tiger. The Thunderbolt was by far the meanest machine alive over Europe, and it's no wonder "Thunderbolt Fright" has taken hold among the Luftwaffe.
I think a similar thing was happening during the Battle of Britain when German pilots were always shot down by Spitfires and rarely ever by Hurricanes :)
@@showtime112 Very good point sir.
This people fighter is very fascinating. Thx for this great video once again :)
Thank you for appreciating it!
Nicely researched of a obscure airplane, I liked the camme scheme of the french one at the end.
After war french air force tested 3 he162. Between 1947 and 1948. Unfortunately one test pilot crashed Just after takeoff in field near Mont de Marsan AB. 2 others plane were send to FAF mechanics school. Now one of two is display at Musée de l'air Paris Le bourget
@@dominiqueroudier9401 Thanks for the info!
Thanks! I thought an Allied skin would be a nice touch, representing the post-war testing phase in the airplane's life.
At the very least, the Salamander tried to demonstrate the ejection seat. It is a pity that this is not recognised today. Nevertheless, excellent reportage!
True, these are some of the first ejections in history. Thanks for the feedback!
Thank YOU for this extraordinary and brilliant video ! It's very Special and for me,as a german,now I know the last day's of this jet experiment of the LUFTWAFFE !! Good Job,well done!! 😊
I really appreciate your positive feedback!
Great video creation. Good enough to be on the history channel.
That's a high praise, thank you!
It's still a lovely looking aircraft.
I'd love to see similar videos on the subject of American-made carrier based fighters (i.e. the Wildcat/Martlet, the Hellcat and the Corsair) vs. Luftwaffe land-based fighters. So far I haven't come across even a single instance of an encounter, let alone any combat or comparisons. The FAA fighters were deployed in nothern European waters, e.g. the Tirpitz raids, where they didn't actually encounter any Luftwaffe fighter opposition. Also, accounts of the Fulmar vs. German single engine fighters.
Great video! Will you be doing any more on the Falklands war? There are the two Etendard Exocet attacks on the MV Atlantic Conveyer and HMS Sheffield, The ground attack where a Harrier GR3 was shot down and the shootdown of the C130 by Sharky Ward in a Sea Harrier. Be great to see more :)
Thank you1 There are certainly plans to cover Falklands some more. The problem is that there's so much stuff to cover and not enough time to do it all 😁
Excellent research and recantation, as usual.
Thank you very much for the positive feedback!
Your visual suggestion at the end is intriguing. Did the French capture, paint, and fly some 162s?!?
Yes, France, UK, USA and USSR all tested He-162 after the war.
Ah, I see, as in tested. I knew the US etc captured and tested, but not France. I remember when the A-10 emerged how it's basic design, albeit with two engines, reminded me of the 162. @@showtime112
Nice video! Which game did you use?
War Thunder
Amazing video. I love the music in particular. Very atmospheric.
Look up Harald Bauer's presentation on serving as a test pilot for the He-162. It's called:
Heinkel He 162 Jet Fighter Test Pilot
20 minutes 40 seconds in, he claims, one of the He 162 shot down a British Meteor in may 1945. And another He 162 shot down a British fighter too around that time also.
Imagine you're a successful German fighter pilot and you receive the news that your squadron is being re-equipped with brand new aircraft. Then you see the new aircraft and it's a flimsy deathtrap with a giant engine strapped on to the fuselage.
It's a very clever simple design.
It was generally not bad but it really needed more testing.
nah, it was total useless.
Bela animação e trabalho histórico, bom trabalho
Muito obrigado!
what game was used to record the footage? thanks
War Thunder
Wooden jet built by forced labor...what could go wrong? 😂
The British Vampire & Mosquito were built of wood by skilled cabinet makers, & they turned out well.
@@ElmCreekSmithnot slave labor, big difference
Especially when you add insufficient testing and overwhelming enemies 😁
@@showtime112 Poor little Heinkel didn't stand a chance 😥
@@ElmCreekSmithskilled labour and motivated. That's the difference.
Nice video, thx.
It is always awesome to get the actual stories from the unit flight logs and compare them tot the ones from the other side!
I also built the Revell's model kit when I was a kid and had always thought that the plane made at least some sort of impact, but achieving measly one confirmed kill with couple of losses due to enemy action, plus all the "self-inflicted" losses, makes you REALLY wonder if the resources used to design and build the 300+ of these could've been used WAY better...
Obviously that comment comes with hindsight, but wasn't this a bit of a common problem in 3rd Reich? Spending scant resources on trying to get better and better wunderwaffe after wunderwaffe when reliable more standard equipment had been already available from some time and would've been a way better an option to stick with them and increase their production?
Thank you for the feedback! Yes, German resources probably could have been spent better but the airplane itself wasn't bad. It just needed some more time to mature as it was clearly rushed into service.
I remember it being stated that a top German Ace was allowed to see one of the first 162s off the line. He said it would be an excellent aircraft, small, with excellent armament, in the hands of an experienced pilot would be a fine aircraft to shoot down Allied bombers. [If the aircraft could have been manufactured to the standards and numbers that Heinkel proposed, it could have delayed the end of the war. There was even talk of giving it swept wings to increase performance a bit more.]
You should do a video about the me 323 gigant
Sadly, it's not available in the sims I use.
What sim or game do you use? I'm not sure!
It's War Thunder
Thank you
Thank you for watching!
what game are the visuals from, one of the IL2 series?
It's War Thunder
Was this created using Il-2 combat sim???
No, it is War Thunder.
I've always felt it is an aircraft that never got a fair chance. It needed time to debug and train on.
That's true, the game was rigged against it.
This airplane looks so cool.
It's got uniqueness for sure.
Interesting !
I’ve been lucky enough to see two of these rare aircraft, one at the RAF Museum and the other at the Imperial War Museum.
I envy you 😁
Hello again mate. Just send you by mail , link about "french " he162. Thank you to show at end of vidéo this plane with french roundels.🇲🇫 3 are used ,1 crashed. Other in display at musée de l'air Paris le bourget. In UK , seen in IWM Hendon or Duxford
I've seen the mail, thank you! I thought it was interesting to use one of the Allied skins at the end to illustrate the final chapter in the type's operational use - testing (usually, it's just the first chapter)
There is one currently under restoration at Duxford.
@@russellmarriott9396yes i have seen it in 2019. In France another display at musée de l'air Paris le bourget exécutive airport ( Paris airshow)
GREAT VIDEO, as usual. Preserving history alive and paying tribute to those pilotos who dared to fly and fight for their country. They are flying higher now than during those days. THANKS.
Thank you once again! Apart from the historical significance, I find the mindset of the people involved a fascinating subject as well.
the typhoon pilot was probably what the heck was that?
I wouldn't describe it as a very pleasant experience 😁
Of course it is a what if, but if the type would made with high quality standards and the engine would be realibly (both impossible at the end of the war on the German side) what could it do against Allied types? Or if it would roll off the line a year earlier?
It would have probably causes quite a few losses among Allied bombers but the end result would have been the same, I'd say.
what flight sim did you use?
War Thunder. 'Flight sim' might be a bit of a stretch though :)
@@showtime112 thank you. I agree, but for some new players it may be seen as a sim.
Remember what we took for "hardcore" sims back in 80s and 90s. And I didnt recognize War Thunder since I do play "hardcore" sims for decades.
@@madigorfkgoogle9349 It still simulates flying but it has a more 'relaxed' view of it 😁 Don't get me wrong, I like WT and I'm glad it's here. But having played DCS for years, I am a bit of a snob.
@@showtime112 yes I like DCS as well, but for WWII era I do prefer IL-2 GB series, Warbirds are still not good in DCS.
Records seem to vary somewhat but it appears that the He 162 shot down at least 6 and maybe as high as 8 Allied aircraft they lost more than that due to accidents on landing or trying to eject
From what I could find in the books that specifically deal with the subject, there's only that one questionable claim plus another one rumored kill but I didn't mention that one as there's no detail at all.
@@showtime112 Just read Adolf Dickfeld Footsteps of the Hunter and he claimed to shoot down a P-47 with his HE 162 page 187. Book can be found on SCRIB at no cost.
I think Wehrmacht should’ve concentrated their efforts on optimization of existing piston engines and aerodynamics instead of testing new technology in such an inappropriate period of the war. But it seems like the idea of Wunderwaffe captured minds of Reich higher management.
It was probably desperation. It was obvious that they couldn't beat the Allies with prop aircraft so they thought they needed weapons which could give them huge advantage to compensate for the quantity.
What game is this footage from?
War Thunder
Although I find his accent fatiguing, I do appreciate his pronunciation of German words and names. Also, as to the computer animation, I believed that I would hate it. But I loved it. In my youth, the late 1950's, there were library books. Very few photographs of World War II aircraft and other equipment. That is why I got into plastic kit modeling. I wanted to see a Junkers Ju 88 from different angles. Also, it was the beginning of black and white TVs with rabbit ears (antennae) and very iffy reception. There were 3 TV stations with limited broadcasting hours: WBBM (CBS channel 2), WMAQ (NBC channel 5) and WBKB (ABC channel 7). And a little bit of WGN (independent channel 9) and WTTW (independent non-profit channel 11). They were VHF. When UHF came out, there was WFLD (channel 32) and 'WSNW?' (channel 44). I could at times receive a station from Milwaukee(?) and watch true bull fights! That was at about two in the morning and with the right atmospherics. And, no computers! Can you believe it!!! Thanks for the memories.
I have short attention span. In those days, especially over the summer, I would watch the TV in my bedroom and the one down the hall in my older brother's bedroom, for the at home local ball team (Cubs or Sox, White, that is) and a national broadcast on channel 5 NBC ("Game of the Week"). I would have one radio on to the local pop music station (WIND, WGN, WLS, I don't remember). I would also have two other radios, one tuned to the local team that was out of town and one to a 'national' game. I would usually score the at home game. And I would also be reading a book. And during the week, the Cubs might be available, they never played night games at home. All pitchers batted and there were 8 teams in each league, including the Milwaukee Braves, New York Giants and Brooklyn Dodgers. Depending upon the season there was the NFL and later the AFL. The Chicago Cardinals were my favorite team. And the Bears played at Wrigley Field. Go Ollie Matson and Rick Casares! There was no basketball in Chicago and the Chicago Blackhawks' home games were never broadcast on TV. Go Stan Mikita!
At 77 with multiple strokes and other happy events, I acknowledge that my memory is faulty. But that's my story and I'm sticking to it!
Thank you for your efforts. May you and yours stay well and prosper.
What Sim did you use to make this?
War Thunder
@@showtime112 Cool, thanks. That's one I haven't really got into yet, but it looks fantastic. The grind keeps me away I think. I can't spend that kind of money to skip it lol.
Really cool Channel, appreciate it.
@@derekcoaker6579It can be frustrating, that's for sure. The trick is to think of the grind as the journey and not just focus on the goal (whatever airplane you want to unlock)
There is one in the Canada Aviation and Space Museum in Ottawa, Canada. Quite an interesting aircraft. The jet engine was a BMW if I remember well. Was it the first WW2 aircraft to have an ejection seat?
So, after all that investment in R&D, millions of Marks spent, valuable raw materials diverted to the 162 project, it all amounted to a big nothing.
Not a big nothing - Jet engines where developed
Nothing. Jet engines developed prior to this plane.
Well, I suppose Germans could say that for every weapon they developed because none of them could change the final outcome.
"Our training is restricted to 600 kts (about 360 mph) because the plywood wings are glued together and may come apart."
"We lost 7 planes before we ever got off a shot at an enemy plane."
"We traded in our FW-190s for THIS?"
Well, you could say that the project needed more time to mature 😁
Luftwaffe pilots are like allied infantry substituting every tank is a Tiger with every aircraft is a Thunderbolt...