Xtar VC4 Charger: Review & Test
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An in depth look at the popular multi format charger from Xtar the VC4. This charger is USB powered and have an informative display showing the charging voltage of the cells, and mAh charge a cell has taken (which can if it's discharged give an indication of battery capacity)
How does the Xtar perform and what are the advantages/disadvantages of this particular charger?
Details from the maker:
XTAR VC4 is the combination of our principle to keep making progress and taking the responsibility for the safety and environment protection. The VC4 can recognize/ display/ charge Ni-MH and Li-ion batteries at the same time and it also displays the charging current, battery voltage and charging capacity. The LCD backlight can be off or automatically into low light mode in 2min to save more energy.
Specification:
Input Power: DC 5.0V 2.1A
0.5A CC Current: 500±50m A
1.0A CC Current: 1000±80m A
Cut-off Voltage:4.20±0.05V
Operation Temperature:0-40℃
Ni-MH batteries charging parameter:
Input Power:DC 5.0V 2.1A
0.5A Pulse Charging Current: 500±50 mA
1.0A Pulse Charging Current: 1000±80 mA
Cut-off Voltage: 1.45±0.1V
Operation Temperature: 0-40℃
Size 149x115x35mm
Weight 210g
Package included:
1x VC4 Charger
1x USB Cable
1x Storage Pouch
1x Manual - Věda a technologie
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Hey, i have charged a battery to full load and after that i have pull it out and tried to charge it again and it start charging, my question is why?it shouldn't be fully charged?(xtar vc4 with Eneloop Pro AA batteries)
@@crazvan1171 Ni-MH voltage drops once charged, this is quite normal hence it will start charging again when inserted
@@MrBazReviews Thank you, I was scared:( I was thinking that is something wrong. Thank you again for help :D
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@Jeremias Cristian Yup, I have been using InstaFlixxer for since december myself =)
Good Review, I'm ordering one. Thanks!
I love this charger it’s the best one I have ever had
It's pretty good
Just subbed great review. 😄
Appreciate the support, let me know what you think of it, despite some downsides I think it's a decent enough charger
A bit late to the party, Mr Baz. I have just bought this as I have gotten back in to buying flashlights again. I watched this all of the way through to help me make my mind up. Thanks. :-)
It's still a decent charger, shame the latest version wasn't that good; I would take this one over that no question! Thanks for dropping by
Per your videos, I just ordered one of these myself. Big thanks! Have to search about overcharging batteries next (leaving it on overnight). Pretty sure a bad thing but interested in how this handles it.
It will cut after a top off charge so it won't continue to charge cells overnight. It's decent enough in fact better IMO than the newer model is.
Hi Mr Baz, great video and I’ve just got one of these.
I wanted to ask what is a good USB adapter plug for this? I’ve got a normal one currently and I’m getting 1A from the two outer Charging slots.
If I buy a usb 3.0 adapter plug, will that make it charge them faster?
Look for the output usually 2.4A or 2.0A
hi Mr Baz, thankyou for the review. i have question, what would happen to charger if we use 5V 3A adaptor, or even lewss power like 5V 1A
Higher amps makes no difference it only draws 2A so it is safe as long as it's 5V, 1A will work but slower charging speeds
@@MrBazReviews thankyou for the reply :)
What is the size of usb barrel style adapter that can be connected to micro usb?
Tip is 5mm diameter hope that helps
I have an 18650 battery that I have in my torch at home (props to Hank!). I have recently just tried to recharge the battery for the third time and the charger only wants to put a charge in at about 0.2amp rather than the 1.0 or 0.5amp. Any ideas?
Is this a sign my battery is on its way out? It hasn't been used that much.
A decent Samsung q30 18650.
Check the power input also try another cells see what happens, if same then the unit is faulty
One question for other owners VC4:
Does the Amps indicator in the middle change while charging the battery? For example I inserted 2x18650 empty batteries in slot 1 & 4 and it showed me that it charged with 1 A (total power draw on USB 1.9A). Well, after 2 hours the USB tester showed a power draw of 0.5A on the cable, but the indicator on the display showed 1 A charging current. This means that the Amp indicator in the middle is useless... it's either 0.5 or 1.0 Amp at the start. Why need a full dial for this if it's not showing charging current?
Over time charging rate can drop depending on how far off completion it is
@@MrBazReviews I know that, but the charging current indicator on the LCD shows 1.0A even though the batteries are full, which is false. It should show 0 Amp.
Hello,do you know if this charger is suitable for rechargeable Gumstick walkman batterys ?Their dimensions are 65 x17x 5mm and they are NiMi 1.2V.Thank you!
I don't have any to test but they should fit into the wide bays on the outside
Thanks for review, I have a bad habit of buying items, then look at review.....but looks like this will be great for my 26650's ....Cheers!
Thank you for your review. I wanted to buy my 3rd Nitecore but will instead go with this one.
It is decent for a reasonable cost charger, there are pros and cons with Nitecore/Xtar but I like this one bar a few areas I'd change
Hello Mr Baz, hopefully you will be able to help me!
I'm very new to this battery/rechargeable/charger field and I'm looking to give my boyfriend some rechargeable batteries (was thinking on the Duracell 2500ma duralock ones, seem to be very good from what i could learn with the videos) but i'm not sure what would be a good charger for them? nd what do i need to look for or if you have any suggestion.
Thank you very much!
This is a good charger I would stick to this for the price it's very decent (not the VC4s though)
I just bought the VC 4 and was wondering can I charge to 18 650 batteries at the same time on 1 amp or is it only half
2 at 1.0 amp or 3/4 at half and amp so just use 2 slots for the 1 amp charge
I use a lot of rechargeable batteries and use a couple of chargers. Decided to buy the VC4 on reviews. It's a dream to use. Just put the batteries in and that's it. No messing. Charges my AAA, AA, 18650, 20700 and 26650. One observation is when the batteries show charged, I've then put them in my Opus BT C3100 and some do then charge a bit more but its minimal. This charger is great to take with you on a trip as its USB. I've even tried it powered from an Anker 20100 powerbank and it works. Only charged 4 AAs. Haven't tried bigger 18650s yet on the Powerbank but I'm guessing it'll put a bit of juice in. OK in an emergency if needed. Very happy with this charger.
It's pretty good I prefer it to the newer version because that just picks goofy charging rates (on quick charge) it's more than enough for most people, just pick the slots you want for charging speed and the charging quality is decent too. Works fine with Li-ion and Ni-MH cells
@@MrBazReviews It's so easy. The Opus has a lot more features but as a simple, easy to use charger the VC4 is top draw.
Great review I just recieved this charger today love how it charges a large variety of batteries am I reading right that it will charge AAA and AA rechargeable batteries as well ?
As is shows AAA up to D cells
I salvaged a li-ion battery from my old laptop.when i put it in my vc4 charger it says that it is ni-mh battery.is my battery broken?
The voltage is low hence it's not reading Li-ion but Ni-MH you can leave it for a bit to see if the voltage increases ie charge it for a while
Hi good day, may i know if compare xtar vc4 with nitecore um4 which chargers better?
I did videos on body, for Ni-MH the Xtar is probably better (slots fit cells better), UM4 probably better for Lithium
My particular VC4, purchased off ebay almost 2 months ago, seemingly has a few anomalies. The red LED of slot one appears not to work. That's no big deal for me because I'm color blind and have trouble distinguishing green from red, so it's sort of a blessing. Another issue is that sometimes, if I put a Li-ion in slot one it won't charge at 1.0A, but goes lower, even very low indeed. If I then move the same battery to slot 4, it charges at 1.0A. Don't know what's up with that. I'm also seeing that NiMH batteries if put in slots 1 or 4 will charge at 1.0A. I thought they were supposed to always charge at 0.5A, or so it said elsewhere.
I've stopped looking at Xtar products, reason being I've had QC issues - this one is working OK still, yet other ones have caused problems. So I am not overly impressed with the company. The outer bays should charge at 1.0amp, ie 1 and 4 regardless of if it's Li-ion or Ni-MH.
Hello, sir. Can this charger charge just one battery or should I insert at least two? Also will you recommend this charger for eneloop's AAs and/or AAAs? Thanks
Charge 1-4 doesn't matter, It's fine for eneloops
Can i use 18650 vape battery in this and which slot should i put them in
Any slot will work doesn't matter of course it takes 18650
I got this charger not long ago and I didn't have high expectations as it's chinese but to be completely fair - it has far exceeded them, XTAR seems to be a solid brand that does actually deliver on what's promised and doesn't make any sketchy products like 15000mAh 18650 cells. Really nice and cheap piece of kit.
It's fine, the ones that have some issues are mostly the ones after this (VC4S I wasn't impressed with), this does a reasonable job at a fair price
Not sure if Xtar is a solid brand. The VC4SL, which should be the newest from Xtar, is a complete failure; it stops randomly the charging or put 1,5Ah more in the cell than the cell capacity, and it deliver max. the half of the speed if 3 -4 cells are inserted. And the charger decides which current it use, even if you change another one. The Top-Model, the VP4 Plus Dragon, seems to work very well but it lacks features for it´s price.
@@reifenabhobeler4331 what brands would you say are more high quality? I'm looking to buy nice not twice.
@@astroid99 It depends on what you need. If you only want to charge different types of cells and if you not always hurry the Nitecore UMS4 is a nice charger, especially for LiIon. My overall favorite is the Vapcell S4 Plus (if you don´t want tgo charge LiFePo4). It also have discharge/test features and is a very good chrager with NiMH also.
Mr. Baz, I probably could / should have got into rechargeable batteries for certain & various items years ago. I think my main reasons were that I didn't want to get all kinds of expensive stuff that wouldn't last, and my uses were probably a bit few and far between so could get away with alkaline batteries alot of times. A few questions as you seem to have firm knowledge on much of this stuff...
Sometimes if I charge a battery (battery charger shows full or stops) and then use the battery, doesn't seem to last very long. Similarly if plugged back into the charger - appears to start process all over. Is it bad, going bad or they just don't retain repeat charges?
Can you recommend a good or your go to best all around battery charger that covers multiple batteries and types (covers a variety) and fairly easy to use with decent information for some of us non electronics people? Thanks for the time and informational videos.
Different chargers start re-charging again if the voltage is below a certain level. My advice is stay away from cheap brands, that way the cells will last longer.
I have the vc4 and it won’t fit protected 21700s , do you know which charger will fit protected 21700s ?
Most don't but this newer one does the Nitecore UM4
czcams.com/video/dhLMH5Og8QU/video.html
@@MrBazReviews hi, i noticed on the video that the manufacturer added 21700 on the box, BUT, didnt update the label behind the charger.
Can you confirm VC4 can fit 21700?
@@sugitan3334 Unprotected 20/21700 cells fits, protected ones do not
I'm torn between this vc4 or nitecore new i4 what do you prefer? I often use 18650 batteries for vape or flashlights I'd really like to know your recommendation on what i should get.
If you can live with the USB connection IMO the VC4 is a better charger because if you have fully discharged cells, the display counts the capacity put into a battery, which is useful. It can also charge 2 x 1.0 amp v 750mA on the i4, though the i4 can charge 1 cell at 1.5A. VC4 also does a better job with Ni-MH cells
Mr Baz Reviews thanks for the fast reply i'll probably get the vc4. Subscribed 👍🏻
NiteCore is shit, I have both & the VC4 is the best
Xtar X4 or VC4? I heard the X4 outer slots charge at 2A and 0.5A with the inner slots, are there any advantages over the VC4 considering this?
I've not used the X4 I wasn't that interested in that model if the specs say 2A it might be as it's mains powered. I don't normally charge that high myself usually 1A for 18650
I have this charger. It is amazing but lost its cable. Don't know the type of cable and where can I get it from?
Ebay sell them just search for VC4 charger cable
Thank you Mr. Baz for this great video, which helped me decide to order a VC4 yesterday. I am curious because I struggled in making a decision by virtue of the fact that Amazon is offering Xtar VC4 in at least two different pages, each with different reviews and pricing. I had to wonder if there are different versions of the VC4 (I'm not talking about the VC4S or any other offerings, these are VC4) and poking around the internet couldn't determine an answer. Finally, after seeing your video and checking here and there I ordered off an Ebay listing. So, my question is, are the Xtar VC4's all the same? BTW, I have a couple of SlimQ 65w USB GAN chargers, a 100w one too, so I figure I'm fine for power source for my VC4. The 65w one's label says it will provide 2.4A from it's USB-A port and 3A from the USB-C port (which I figure I could use if I want using an adapter for the VC4's supplied proprietary cable). The 100w SlimQ's label says it provides 4.5A from both. I'm going to rewatch your video here now! Thanks again!
There is a VC4L which has a type C cable, it is the same functions as this one. Avoid the VC4S it's not a good charger
@@MrBazReviews Thank you. Well, I already ordered the VC4. I'll just try to keep the supplied barrel ended cable functional. I just watched your review of the VC4S. Yes, indeed, it's one to steer clear of. One of the reasons the VC4 appeals to me is the limiting of charge rate. My BC700 La Crosse (I have a BC900 too) does that, I can select charge rates from 200 to 500 to 700 and possibly 1000ma. I find the advancing with button push iffy but I persist. However, no support for 18650, which is a requirement that sent me shopping for a new charger. I did buy a very simple basically featureless 2 cell 18650 charger that has no buttons or screen and simply supplies 350ma and has LEDs that turn from red to green when the cell is full, I think on independent circuits. I anticipate I will like the VC4.
@@MrBazReviews I have a question: You note that the LED turns from red to green to indicate that charging is complete. I am red/green color blind and chargers that do go red-->green generally drive me up the wall. I sometimes have no idea if the LED is red or green, or if I do, I am anything but certain. Is there anything on the display that indicates that charging for any particular cell is complete?
@@musicantd
7:12
so this one is no different from the yellow and black box version from 2 years ago?
No difference I can see the white box was brought in a couple of years ago (10 year thing I believe), so unless there are minor electronic revisions, same charger when it first came out.
Thanks
So does it ever display the mah capacity of the battery once charged?
It tells you what mAh it's charged into a cell, so to be useful you really want cells that are discharged fully. That way you can see what the capacity is.
I just noticed that some of my batteries are ni-cd and have been charging it on my vc4. Seems to be doing okay so far
It's an OK charger, I would pass on some of their other ones
Okay, so... It will do my 20700 batteries? But can I charge them at .5amp rate? I've got plenty of batteries, so I'm not in a hurry. I think I prefer the slower .5 charge. In other words, using the outer ports(due to size), can I manually select the .5 amp charge? If not, will it hurt the batteries doing them at the full 1amp? I'm a long time vaper, but relatively new to 20700s and 21700s. Great review, by the way. And thank you.
PS: Know anything about Golisi or Adeaska chargers? I don't recall the exact model. They're typical i4/d4 type model numbers. They both fall in the $25-$39 price range. I ask because I really wanted the Xtar a year ago. However, the other two I mentioned both(I'm pretty sure both), act as a power bank, as well. Which I like having for my phone. Also, I'm not super battery savvy. These other models I mentioned, I believe show you in percentage(%), how much charge your battery is ACTUALLY holding, vs what it SHOULD be holding. I'm still using an older i4 Nitecore. Not only will it not do my new 20700s and 21700s, but I've got some older vtc5a Sony(18650s) that I know are not hitting the full charger anymore. Even after they're "Fully" charged, my vape products are only showing them at 90%. So... I figured buying one w/a screen would give me an exact insight as to which sets are no longer reaching max/full potential. And finally... And I'm soooooo sorry to ask so many questions, but it will NOT hurt to continue using my old i4 as well, would it? This way, I'll have access to 8bays instead of 4? I'll continue using my old Nitecore for my 18650s(if I need the space), and should I see signs of trouble, batteries not reaching a full 4.2volt, then move them over to the Xtar and check them? Shouldn't matter using both, I wouldn't think? Again, I'm so sorry about the SUPER long question(s).
In short....
1)Will the Xtar charge my 20700 & 21700 batteries?
2)Can I manually select .5amp on the 20700 & 21700s, even using the outer bays?
3)Will it hurt my batteries, if on occasion they're in the Xtar for a cycle, and then back to i4 for a cycle?
4)As for the other two chargers mentioned, if you have any input? Great. If not, I'll just buy the Xtar. I definitely trust your judgment. Way more knowledgeable about this than I am.
(Golisi S4 and Adeaska SQ4)(went back and searched the models).
Thank you. Truly.
VC4 will charge unprotected 20/21700 cells no problem slots are long enough. I have not use the other makers so can't really comment. The Xtar charging speed is selected via the slots 2 outer ones (1 or 2 cells) to charge at 1.0 amp, if you use the middle 2 they charge at 0.5amp. I do voltage tests on the termination with charger reviews Xtar tend to get nearer to the 4.20 volts (9:28) than some makers, Nitecore usually go to 4.17v other brands might vary you don't want to be above 4.20 volts because it shortens battery life so slightly under is fine. Some battery mods can give readings that are not entirely accurate, but as said some chargers are a bit below the 4.20 volts.
I don't see a problem with the VC4 except it's USB powered and should include a wall adapter for that in my view. D4 cant fit unprotected 20/21700 cells some chargers cannot, nor the Zanflare one I reviewed recently. For portable charging I suggest the Nitecore F2 has 2 bays 20/21700 cells fit and charges at up to 1.0 amp per bay, useful small charger to have around.
VC4 is solid for the price (ie it's not that expensive) and charge quality is good/accurate. Hope that helps
Mr Baz Reviews My friend, I can't thank you enough. Not only a damn fine review, but to take the time and answer everyone's questions? That's pretty stand up in my book. I'm truly grateful. After looking at the F2 as well, and needing a travel charger as well, I've decided to order both. I figure I'll use the Xtar around the house, alongside my old i4(giving me 8bays total). And the F2, if I really need 10bays, bot mostly for my vehicle. And to be honest, I passed on the Xtar a year ago? Because of NOT including a wall adapter. At some point, I'll probably try and find a REAL wall plug for the vc4. Seeing how I just stumbled onto a place called the "The 18650 Store"(dot com), and the Xtar is $15? And free shipping? I guess I'll just have to use my old Samsung Note USB block. It's a 5v 2amp I do believe. Again, I truly can't thank you enough. For your wisdom and your time. You're a lifesaver!!!
No problem subscribing helps quite a bit for more charger reviews!
Mr Baz Reviews Hey, my brother. Got my Charger in today. Actually it came in a few days ago, but I was out of town. Never the less, again, I wanted to thank you for your help. Although, now that I have it in hand.... I do have one more question before I fire it up. I didn't order a block for it, as I figured I had enough old cell phone blocks laying around. Although, it's a little off. I have 5v 1.0A(which I'm assuming would be fine, but slower). And the one I had planned on using(Samsung Note 3 block), is a actually a 5.3V 2.0A? Is that .3V going to be an issue or hurt anything? If so, I'll just use the 1.0A and order another one(which in going to do anyway, but would still like to use the charger in the meantime). My friend, I am sooooo sorry. I truly hate bothering you w/this.... Again. I assure you, I'll leave you alone after this. Hahaha! You by far seem to be the most knowledgeable in this field. Maybe in all of CZcams land. Definitely the most thorough. Again, thank you for all your help. Truly.
Best.
Willow -
You can use 1.0 amp but it will slow the charger, so 2.0 amp is better USB is always rated to 5 volts usually a decent PSU is slightly over 5V doesn't matter, a low grade one below 5V will slow it down (less voltage drops charging rate). I did moan to Xtar a bit about this really think they should just include one in the box makes sense to me then nobody will have a problem!
Per your earlier replies to my comments on the vc4s video I have watched this and I'm going for this one,plus I've already got the cable and plug from my vp4. For AAA Batts etc I think I might use a lower power phone plug,around 1a or lower(or have you a better suggestion).I've found this for £17.99stg so can't go wrong eh. Cheers.
There is a new one out with type C but it's an alright charger
Hi Mr Baz, Where can I get that tip to use my own 5v adapter?. Cheers mate.
They sell them on eBay sometimes Amazon give it a try. I have a few with a car starter/power bank too
@@MrBazReviews Thanks a lot for the reply, found one on Ebay. Keep up the good work mate.
i subbed because of this review. i was looking for chargers for my 18650 and AA NiMh batts. i was actually considering Powerex, SkyRc , and Opus (coz i really need that delta for my AA, well for m4wd use), but this may of great help til i can purchase the abovementioned chargers..
I quite like the Opus not too many downsides it doesn't have 0 volt activation, covers just about everything else. VC4 is a decent charger overall good termination, no fancy features it just gets the job done. Shame the new version isn't as good IMO
@@MrBazReviews I hope you'll have reviews for skyrc chargers and powerex in the future. Can't wait for my vc4 to be delivered and be used..
What is the discharge tester that you suggested using?
You have a few options Xtar Dragon, Opus BT 3100 (best budget option), or Sky MC3000 (expensive but ultra tweakable settings) their are others that can do the job the VC8 has testing, I don't like the VC4s myself but it can test cells
Mr Baz, I've had this charger for a few years, and I've had a few issues with it. One issue that you sort of touch on but not in great detail, is the charging current for Nimh AA or AAA's. The charger specs make it seem like for 2 AA in outer slots, it will charge at 1 amp and for 4 AA or 2 AA in middle slots it will charge at 0.5 amps. This should make it easy enough to be able to roughly predict charging time if you know battery capacity and how dead the battery is. But in real tests, I find the output current varies drastically and unpredictably from the 1 amp down to a paltry 100 mah (based on readout on the LCD screen). So as an example, for a 2000 mah AA that would take 2 hours (1000 mah delivered per hour) on my other chargers that deliver a constant current of 1 amp, this charger can take 6-12 hours to charge the same battery. Since I'm trying to use this charger while camping to charge my headlamps and Lanterns batteries, time to fully charge is an important factor. Wondering if you've also experienced this and whether you've timed charge time from dead to full (dead being around 1.1/1.2V). I used to own a lacrosse bc700 smart charger and was able to select charging up to 700 mah, and it would stay steady at that current until charging was done, resulting in a much faster charge time. I understand nimh can be damaged with ultra fast charging, but I've never read that 700 or 1000mah (1 amp) is too high for charging nimh AA's. Thoughts? thanks!
Thoughts are if you're USB power source isn't up to snuff, then the charging times are going to be slow. 6-12 hours is nuts so unless you've a real bad power source, I suspect that is the problem. I use only decent outputs hence no reason to talk about it much bar use a good power supply or USB current. 2.0 amp
I've never seen a problem using a good USB output voltage/amps
AA is fine at 1.0 amp for higher capacity (2000+), AAA usually 0.5A it can take faster if you don't mind hitting the recharge cycles.
@@MrBazReviews thanks for your thoughts, I considered the same thing so I tried a few different usb adapters from ranging 2- 3.1 amp 5V outputs and got same results! The one I tried today came with my samsung galaxy s10+ which is rated for 2 amp 5v or 9v 1.67A.... it must be something other than that. You mentioned for nimh that charger doesn't use CCV and pulses. Could this have something to do with it? Also have you ever popped in one fairly dead AA nimh and watch the LCD current indicator to see if it actually stays at 1 amp, mine starts at 1 amp (if in outer slots), then drops down usually to 100-200mah. This explains why it so slow to charge, but not why charger won't stay at 1 Amp?
I still have and use the La Crosse BC700 charger (ordered my Xtar VC4 yesterday, thanks Mr. Baz, your video put some of the wind in my sails), and charging my many Eneloop AAA and AA batteries, I always accept the default 200ma for the former, and boost the charging current to 500ma for the latter. These values are what I saw recommended in threads, in large part IIRC because of the La Crosse chargers' quirk in sometimes missing termination for the AA cells at 200ma. Also, I'm not in a hurry, have many extra Eneloops. Not sure what I will do with the VC4 beyond charging my 18650s (I have two 1200mah generics and will have 2600mah protected Fenix, also ordered yesterday). 1A and 0.5amp seem high to me for AAA, but I may charge my AA's at 0.5A in the VC4. I do like the slow aspect of the VC4, to me cell longevity is more important than fast charging.
The mAh reading? Is that how much mAh is being put in? I have charged Eneloops AA and the mAh is 245. 2 keeppower 1400 mAh 18350 batteries I have charged in this unit only read 500 mAh after charging is complete. Why is that?
If they cells are not fully discharged the reading will be low. It's how much is put in, flatten the batteries to get a more useful reading
Their UK website stated "The VC4 can revive overly discharged batteries as well." You havent mentioned that feature?
It's noted at the end listed as a positive. But it won't always work if the cell is faulty it can't charge, what it does is low charge cells ie low voltage to bring them up, doesn't mean the cell is going to perform well
Can i charge ni-cd batteries by xtar vc4 charger?Have any feature to protect overcharging?
It has I've not seen it overcharge cells based on my use. It is normal for Ni-Mh/Ni-CD to be slightly over 1.5V when charged, it drops back to around 1.4V after a while
@@MrBazReviews Thank You Sir..
I've got the VC4 new version. About the comments that after a full recharge, if you remove the batteries and put them back at the charger and it keeps charging for a while. Does your model do that or only our new models? Your reviews are very useful!
I don't like the new VC4 this one is better IMO. But most chargers will charge again if the voltage isn't low, but they will stop fairly quickly when it hits the end of charge. Some won't they will see the voltage and not start charging (ie OPUS) if it's say 4.10V or higher
What is the different old vs new VC4 physically?
@@sugitan3334 It is practically the same model. The newer model doesn't have the charging speed marked on the plastic bays. I didn't miss it because this information is shown on the display when only one battery is inserted in each bay. The rest is the same for what I've been seeing.
The activation mode works in fact, I've inserted 2 different kind of batteries and it was able to charge till the end. Even a 17 years old Panasonic battery could be charged.
I liked it so much.
Hi! Is it safe to use AA batteries if I use this charger? Because I am planning to buy this. Thank you in advance!
All Ni-MH and Ni-CD cells are supported with this so yes AA/AAA/C/D etc
@@MrBazReviews Great! Thank you so much for your advise!
Hello. Could you recommend any alternatives to this model? Thank you in advance!
Nitecore UM range
I like your intro : - )
Got to repeat what other users say about this unit, "I love it" and still use it, however just upgraded to the beast that is the xtar dragon, and im blown away with it. If you just casual vape and dont care what batteries your using, then its maybe not for you due to its price tag, just paid £67 however I wanted to ensure batteries were coming out with the correct mah, plus the refresh will come in handy. However the xtar vc4 is a good work horse, and will serve you for many years.
VC4 is fine, and they have an updated L version USB-C. Really depends on what people want the Dragon is a tester, though you can get an idea of capacity with this too if the cell is fully discharged.
is it safe to charge nitecore 18650 batteries with this charger? How many 18650 batteries can I charge at the same time for not damaging the cell?
Brand doesn't matter 1-4 cells keeps it kinda easy, nothing to go wrong
How do you switch off the display?
Long press button
nice & detailed review, tq. What are the tips called if i would like to search for them?
You mean magnetic spacers?
@@MrBazReviews the dc adapters
@@janssencheah8073 I know nothing about them never used them try the Xtar site
its good for niCd batray type?
It works fine just make sure Ni-CD cells are discharged as they have a memory effect unlike Ni-MH
Can i charge ni-cd batteries by xtar vc4 charger?
Yes they work
Hi Mr Baz, I'm amazed of the amount of replies you have done through this and other videos and also, your reviews have helped me a lot to choose the correct charger I want. So, I wonder if you could help me with a doubt. I use Ni-MH batteries (the ones that sells amazon) AA(2400 mAh) and AAA(800 mAh) I use them in TV controls, keyboards, stuff like that. So, what I want is to save my batteries lifespan the most, I have seen that this charger has some features that protects batteries from overcharging, overcurrent, etc. And I'm wondering if the XTAR BC4 would take care of my batteries as this charger (the BC4 says to have similar features as this charger) Do you have any advice about batteries lifespan with this brand, the XTAR?
I'm not getting Xtar review samples at this time nor will I as Xtar stole some of my videos! (long story but hmm)
So I did not look at the BC4, perhaps there are other reviews that might help. The VC4 is decent, and IMO one of the last good Xtar ones to come out, the newer VC4S was not a good charger, nor the VC2S so I'm not overly impressed with their later offerings. I can say this is a good overall charger, being fair. Aside from the barrel connection I don't have a ton of complaints.
Thanks for the reply!
Good review, can it charge Ni-Cd bateries?, it isn't clear in the manual
Look at 1:37 in the video, it says can charge those as well as Ni-Mh
hi. you rated this 8.5/10. are there others models that you rated higher around 9 to 10 perhaps? worth looking for. And how would you determine and know between VC4 old and new model (stated in the packaging box)? planning to get this one.
There is a new one with type C same desgin VC4L. Slots a bit larger but the same overall
@@MrBazReviews oh i see. Thanks. Just subscribed to your channel. Well reviewed. Appreciate if you can suggest other than this that is similarly good, as the old model is mostly sold out. Many thanks
@@maich3lbio I don't know what you charge, see battery chargers top picks covers a fair few
@@MrBazReviews 18650, AAA, AA. Tnx
Will this charge ni CD 1.5 v AA battery (rechargeable battery) ??
Ni-CD or Ni-MH it will charge both
@@MrBazReviews thank you 👍
I bought one to keep Olight flash light batteries topped off. As I use them a lot for working.. So I don't have time to fool around using the tail cap charger all the time. It seems to do the job. As all I use are Li-ion.... But for $12.00 I can't build one that cheap and still have all the features...
It's hard to argue with value wise solid enough charger and the charging quality is above most (ie accurate)
Hello sir, output is 2.1a max.
Can i use 4a adapter? Or should i get 2.1a adapter?
Thank you in advance
No 4a is fine it only draws what it needs as long as voltage is the same 5V that is what is important
@@MrBazReviews its 5v 4a note in the adapter. Is it fine?
@@slymetube I just answered that question
Great review! I just got this charger a little over a week ago on recommendation from a friend.
I'm worried about charging 18650 batteries though. I bought a rechargeable flashlight that came with a 18650 battery.
It was supposed to come uncharged but when I put it in the VC4, it registered as 4.2V. I thought those batteries are only 3.6V. I'm scared of making the battery explode because I have seen all kinds of warnings about charging them.
It's an unprotected one by the way. Can I really trust the VC4 to charge these with no problem?
4.2V is fully charged that's fine, yes they normally come partially charged. I've not seen a problem with the VC4 with termination on Li-ion cells
Did you have any luck with this thing? Im dealing with the exact same situation trying to charge 3.6v unprotected cells. So far this charger only seems to read voltage. It doesn't actually charge the batteries.
Does it have a power bank feature?
Not this one
Honestly mate I don’t really understand the screen and what it is telling me. I just really wanna know a rough idea on how long it will take to go to 100% charged. I’m charging 1 1850 vale battery and 3 2150 vape battery’s.
It's quite simple 4.20V is the target. So 1.0 amp charging about 1000mA per hour or 0.5A is 500mA. Divide cell capacity (say 3000mAh) by the charge. So about 3 hours and a bit for 3000mAh cell if using 1 amp simple stuff indeed ;-D
I'm wondering about charging AAA NiMH cells with this. I saw it recommended that I use the lowest charge rate for my La Crosse chargers (200ma) to charge my Eneloop AAA cells. The Xtar VC4's lowest charge rate is 500ma unless you connect it to a relatively week USB charger (which I might do). Or is it better to use my La Crosse chargers' 200ma charge rate with those AAA Eneloop NiMH cells? Now, the La Crosse chargers do use a delta V termination method, so I'm thinking the soft stop of the Xtar VC4 may be the better choice even if charging at 500ma. These ideas are for my AAA Eneloops. I also have many AA Eneloops, and I presume the Xtar VC4 is definitely the better idea there. People have said to use 500ma rate with the La Crosse chargers with AA Eneloops because the charger is apt to miss termination signal at 200ma. Generally, I'm in no hurry (I have lots of cells), cell longevity is more important to me than speed.
0.5A is fine, most good AAA's are close to 900/1000mAh it's not a problem at all half an amp charging
@@MrBazReviews Thank you. Most of my Eneloop AAAs are rated at 750mah. I have a few Ikea sold LADDA 900mah AAA's, which are thought to be rebranded high capacity Eneloops in actuality, having been manufactured in Japan, and evidently that renders it certain that they are actually Eneloops. So, 0.5A is OK for charging 750mah Eneloop AAAs?
@@musicantd Doesn't matter 0.5A is not an excessive charge for 750mAh AAA cells or higher. I've never seen a problem with it, there is a bit of a myth flying around about super low charging currents and battery longevity. The truth is at high charging speeds that creates heat, which reduces charge cycles. Below that the difference is minimal or not relevant
@@MrBazReviews So you say "reduces charge cycles." I presume you're saying that it isn't dangerous to charge at 05A however it will impact longevity of the cells? If that is the case if a priority for me IS cell longevity (the number of recharges the cell will support without losing its utility) would it not be a better idea to use one of my La Crosse chargers for my 750mah Eneloop AAA's and charge at 200mah? Thank you!
@@musicantd 0.5A won't hit cycles it is quite safe for good quality AAA
Hello Does it charge four 18650's at the same time?
Not being smart but I think the answer is pretty obvious ;-D
@@MrBazReviews thank you cuz I'm planning to Buy One, Know I'm Convinced
Received mine today. I only have 1amp USB adapters. Putting batteries in slots 1 and 4 I fully expected the charger to select 0.5a as the USB adapter is only providing 1amp. But the charger says it's charging at 1amp. Wouldn't it need a 2amp USB charger to charge two batteries at 1amp? I'm confused!
The gauge in the middle shows the max potential charge speed not the actual speed per channel. So if it's only 1.0 amp then it won't charge 1.0A for 2 cells for 1 yes if it's in the outer bays. You really need a 2.0amp USB output to get the better speeds
@@MrBazReviews Cheers Mr Baz. I see. Confusing. On a side note mine didn't come with amperage markings on the bays. Not that it matters really. But the instructions are different to yours. There's no reference at all to the middle two being 0.5amp and the outer ones being 1amp. That corresponds to the lack the lack of markings on the bays. Maybe they don't want to confuse beginners, hence the lack of amp markings and no reference in the manual. I bought mine from the official Xtar seller on Amazon UK and it passed the counterfeit test on their web site.
@@Radio_Activity As far as I am aware there is no design change to the VC4 and I looked at 2 over a period of a couple of years. If they removed the markings in the bays then that's a strange move I can't see any reason to do that.
@@MrBazReviews Strange. If you had mine and had no knowledge of chargers you would not know that it had two charging rates. Though I guess you'd soon realise when you see the charge rate change depending on what bay you're using.
@@MrBazReviews If I could just ask one more thing! (or maybe two) I charged two 500mah AAA batteries in the two middle bays. After they'd charged (green light) I took them out and put them back in just to see what would happen. The charger put another 38mah into each one before showing a green light. The same thing with a AA Eneloop. Maybe on the previous charge it displayed they were charged and ready but hadn't completed a trickle charge?
Also, if I put the batteries in again (third time) after that second brief 38mah charge the light stays red but the Ni-Mh flashes and the mah still goes up! Any ideas what that means? Why does it still appear to be charging the batteries? It doesn't behave like my Maha charger in that regard. Cheers.
Can i charge xtar vc4 by 18w or 20w mobile phone charger?
See other reply!
@@MrBazReviews Thank you sir...
Does this do a battery balance between coupled batteries
No each channel is separate
just got this charger I tried 2 brand new batteries from supplier 1 charged fine but the 2cnd battery shows error also tried another battery I had from eBay and this also showed error
Try different slots to see if there is a charger problem
@@MrBazReviews tried new battery and ebay battery in both slots also tried good battery in both slots and it charges fine
should have added new battery and ebay battery gave error in both slots but good new battery charges in both slots
What is more better? Xstar vc4 or xp4 im using 18650 3 pair please give me a good feedback
XP4 is powered via adapter basic display but can charge at 1.0 amp max on all 4 slots so fast for more than 2 18650's. VC4 is USB powered more useful display but limited to 1.0 amp for 2 batteries then 0.5 amp for 3 or more. Depends what you want
Mr Baz Reviews thanks but can you help me diecide i will just use it with my vape batt and im using vt6 and vtc5a only. Im into car charging also. About the lifespan of the charger what is more good in quality thanks
I have not used vp4 so can't really say just what I read it comes with car charger either will do for your needs
Mr Baz Reviews vp4 is way expensive id rather choose between xp4 and vc4 im watching your review for me to deicde what i buy
I did a video on chargers might be of help:
czcams.com/video/Kmoo-_izexE/video.html
If you are only charging Li-ion cells then maybe look at the MC series affordable and work well. VC4 is good no question if you need the display otherwise MC4 will do the job for a lower price
Slm usta bu cihaz AAA pil sarj edermi
yes
@@MrBazReviews kumanda pile de sarj eder mi
So can I take the batteries out during the charging or should I wait
You can but erm do you want them fully charged?
@@MrBazReviews Ofcourse I do, but I wasn't sure if I can just take them out during the charging
@@totalrko Nothing bad will happen if that's what you mean
@@MrBazReviews Thanks for the information
Good review, i take it
It's pretty good
Chargers acting weird today. Charged a lith ion battery I’ve charged in it atleast 5 times already and it’s reading it as ni mh battery, kind of stumped have a bunch of these same batteries and use this one battery daily and tried to charge it but reading reading lith so it won’t charge to 4.2 smh
If the voltage is low on Li-ion it might read Ni-MH for a while I've seen that a few times, but when the voltage increases it should see it otherwise the unit is faulty
can it charge 4 18650 batts at the same time?
Erm wouldn't be a lot of point to a 4 bay charger if it couldn't
i was just concerned that it might be too high for the outer slots, thanks for answering!
mine says full, removed it for a second and tried charging again and it is still going. using AA batteries
It will do voltage drops on AA cells when charged, this isn't using a Delta V it's based on voltage with a top off charge
@@MrBazReviews thank you
I would just like to add summat......to charge a 18650 4200 mah battery @ 0.5A it would take 10.5 hrs....so could someone explain why when using this charger it only charges the batterys to 1850 mah in 2 hrs and says they are fully charged....
4200mAh doesn't exist for an 18650 the most is 3600mAh and even then many don't get much over 3500mAh. Many fake cheap capacity batteries around. Run them down, insert check the voltage on the dial and they do indeed charge at half an amp middle slots.
Can this charger discharge rechargeable batteries?
No not this one just charging
Mr Baz Reviews Thanks. Is it true that it can revive dead rechargeable batteries? I know you have shown this in your video. But is it effective? The 0V charge.
@@fiz567 It can, but...some cells won't take a charge at all (even with activation, not often but it can happen), and it doesn't mean the battery will perform well (they don't like being discharged to that level). Yes it works just remember it's not a guarantee they'll be worth saving. Sometimes they are OK
no selectable charging currents
You can just put the battery in the outer bays for 1A, the inner ones for 0.5A. It's not individual current though as I explain
Can it fit a 26800 cell?
The slot length is shown in the video
@@MrBazReviews Oops, i somehow missed your measurements at 2:34 mark. Thanks! And sorry for that
Can this charge 21700 cell ?
Unprotected yes
@@MrBazReviews nice. Thanks 👍
Got mine today, charging 4 --- 18650 batteries now . 3100 mAh
It's an OK charger
This charger stops 18 650 batteries at 4.2 volts would this charger ever charge it past 4.2 volts let's say 4.3 volts like my older zanflare C2 charger did which is the reason I bought this one so it would always stop at 4.2 and never go over
It terminates at just under 4.20V as shown I've never seen it go over that, nor should any decent Li-ion
@@MrBazReviews thank you for responding I'm glad to hear that because my zanflare C2 2 Bay charger I found out the right side of the charger Bay made my battery go over 4.2 so I started getting scared sent it back and now I got the x * thank you though
What does Protected and Unprotected mean?
No one has ever been able to explain to me.
www.fenix-store.com/blog/what-is-the-difference-between-protected-and-unprotected-18650-batteries/
Gives a fairly good overview on things
Good review thanks but I do not like that plug so this is not for me but I do need to purchase a charger
I think the USB plug isn't an issue if they bundled the wall adapter with it, but as I say I think type C is the way to go for USB to devices. It wouldn't stop me recommending the charger because it is good and charges cells very well, minimal heat and accurate termination. I am planning on doing a "charger roundup/recommended" chargers video where I pick out ones I prefer and will suggest choices based on what you need.
Thank You I will be waiting for that review
I have one and mine never gets above room temperature while charging...Batteries included
I use a Garmin switching power supply with mine. Runs cool, love it. I use surefire 18650's, ikea aa, aaa , enloop, lumsing, acuvar and EBL AA with great success
What model is the garmin do you use?
@@1ENDUSER Garmin PSC05R-050A1 Switching Power Supply 5V 1.0A. Never even gets warm
Garmin are good
XTAR VC4 or NiteCore UMS4?
If you charge AA/AAA go with the VC4 if you charge protected 21700 go with Nitecore
@@MrBazReviews I plan to use more for AA and AAA batteries with a nominal capacity of 2500 and 1000 mAh, respectively. Are there any details that disallow UMS4 for this use? In my country it is easier to find than the VC4 and, consequently, cheaper.
@@sandrorocha790 Nitecore AA/AAA slip out easily so a bit annoying design needs improving stick to VC4 for AA/AAA
@@MrBazReviews Thanks!
Jumped the gun on this, there's a vc4s that's capable of quick charge 3.0 USB input, has a nicer display, and it also adds internal resistance measurement! No USB c yet though...
I don't recommend the VC4S it often puts high current into one or 2 cells when using quick charge, and there is no way to adjust the current on the charger other than using a lower power input. I wasn't impressed at all, the display is too small. Yes it has some nice features IR and testing, but the actual charging is sub par
The VC4 is a better overall charger
@@MrBazReviews that settles that then, I made the right choice!
I'm disappointed the charge capacity can't not be set. AAA batteries be cooked, 500mAH that is far too much for this batteries. 200mAH is common this also applies to some other batteries at the list.
There must come an extra button for the charge capacity setting. 200mAH 500mAH and 1000mAH
I will send an email to the factory
I would like a lower charge rate, but 0.5A isn't excessive for AAA cells it's very common on many chargers. I'd prefer say 300mA as an ideal charge rate
The AAA batteries become so hot that you can't grab it with your fingers. It is an good charger for AA and 18650 batteries. Never i use it again for AAA batteries.
I will send an email to the factory.
@@lexpee I've never seen a cell off this charger that is anywhere near "hot". I assume you are not using the 1.0A bays, even so I've never seen any kind of heat output off this charger that is of concern it uses a voltage termination with top off, not Delta V. So I would have to say the unit must be faulty
So connect i to a 0,5amp usb and you have lower chargeamps when using 2 or more bays :)
Pretty silly not able to do protected 21
It's been out a while not many chargers take protected 20/21700 cells in the future most should I hope (think new Xtar ones coming out soon)
@@MrBazReviews I'm liking the UM4 for the protected 21700.Great review Mate
If you want to charge 2 AAA batteries at 500mA, you can only use 2 and 3 slots, not any of the 4, this is a big disadvantage for this charger.
If you use more than 2 it's 500mA anyway so not much of a problem really
Make sure to check whether your VC4 is a counterfeit (some sellers on Amazon are selling counterfeits). On the bottom front corner of the box, there's a "scratch off". Enter the 18 digit number under the scratch-off on this site to check if the one that you've got is genuine.... www.xtar.cc/faq/antifakecheck/20180812/81.html
Yes that is correct!
lol i got the VC2 version
Yes same thing just less slots, Useful smaller size though
How is it possible that XTAR fucked up the VC4S? It should be an even better charger than this one, but instead is a cell killer!
Because they don't listen! Neither of the VCs models I would use. They are way too high charging rate 2.0A for AAA cells is crazy. I told them about the VC2S problems, none were fixed on the VC4S. You can fast charge AA at 2.0A maybe (with a hit to performance long term), AAA can handle 1.0A fast charging, above that is nuts.
@@MrBazReviews You told XTAR about this? And they worsen the problems in the S versions? Well, that says it all about this company... :\
4 are charging and 3 slots are visible? great, BS!
Display shows 2 channels, sure 4 would be better
no selectable charging currents
see my other reply