Lawyer REVEALS The Biggest Mistakes His Gun Owner Clients Make

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    What are some of the biggest mistakes you can make when hiring an attorney, following a self-defense incident? In this insightful video, U.S. Concealed Carry Association Director of Content Kevin Michalowski and noted criminal defense attorney Tom Grieve talk about types of clients who pose the most difficulty for lawyers. Remember, you have hired a lawyer for a reason. Get out of your own way and let the legal team work its magic.
    00:00 Don’t be “that guy” when it comes to carrying a gun.
    00:59 What three common traits are shared by Tom’s worst firearms-related clients?
    04:20 Getting angry and shouting at police officers is not a good look. Remember that body- and dashcam footage will be entered into evidence, so act accordingly.
    07:05 Help your attorney help you by being honest and forthright and communicating effectively. Be on time for scheduled calls, meetings and court appearances.
    08:58 “Helicopter parenting” can make it difficult for lawyers to represent younger clients. Often, these parents think that they know more than the lawyers do.
    10:14 Cops usually make very good legal clients since they understand how the court system works.
    11:47 Anyone who finds himself or herself in need of a lawyer should trust that attorney to do his or her job and provide the best possible legal representation.
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Komentáře • 274

  • @USCCAOfficial
    @USCCAOfficial  Před 2 lety +5

    Want MORE Tom Grieve Videos? Subscribe to his channel here: bit.ly/3xhJuBc

    • @Justjme1224
      @Justjme1224 Před 2 lety

      I have a question for Tom and Kevin that I’ve been trying unsuccessfully to find an answer to, so perhaps they can help. My job has me spending all night making deliveries in “bad” areas that are prone to crime and shootings, while offering nothing but a panic button as protection. I’ve taken steps to make myself as safe as possible while working, including buying a personal body camera that I wear. If I were involved in a defensive situation would I be compelled to turn over body camera footage ? Or would a warrant be required since the camera and what it records is (I think) my personal property? Also, if a warrant is needed is it advisable to turn it over voluntarily or have them obtain a warrant?

  • @jerrysmith3516
    @jerrysmith3516 Před 2 lety +157

    My only complaint is not really with the defense attorneys in this situation but rather the prosecutor. Sometimes it seems they make this more of a game when people lives are on the line and I can't understand why any prosecutor would want to lock up an individual for self defense especially when the evidence is clear they did not go looking for trouble rather trouble came looking for them. We as the public hear about cases where prosecutors drop cases against career criminals but attempt to put people who simply defended themselves away for life. Our justice system at times seems to make no sense. Which is why I still refer to it as a legal system not a justice system. Yes, at times it finds justice thanks to the jury system but no thanks to the so called experts.

    • @ChrisTopheRaz
      @ChrisTopheRaz Před 2 lety +26

      what’s frustrating is that prosecutors are going to fight a case for the intent of a win, the perspective of a notch in the win section, a career bias. That’s sad and troublesome.

    • @safetyshotgun308
      @safetyshotgun308 Před 2 lety +25

      Low hanging fruit. They don’t see it as people lives, only as another Conviction to add to their portfolio before climbing the legal system ladder

    • @atxjaphotos4217
      @atxjaphotos4217 Před 2 lety +13

      After the Chauvin jurors admitted they lied to be "activist jurors" and the threats that were made against the other jurors, I'm starting to not trust the jury system.
      In the past 2 years, we've had multiple cases of people trying to intimidate judges and jurors by doing them and going to their homes. I dont know how that's any different than a mafia guy showing up to a judge/juror's house or their kid's school. The message in either case is "we know where to find you if you don't do what we want."

    • @jerrysmith3516
      @jerrysmith3516 Před 2 lety +17

      @@atxjaphotos4217 On that note I completelly agree with you. I honestly was suprised Kyle Rittenhouse was found not guilty. I believe that was the right verdict but with all the people protesting outside the courthouse you know the jurors had to be thinking about it. While I understamd the right to protest it should be illegal to do so to affect a jury's decision as that comes down to nothing but mob justice which as we know is not justice.

    • @fokyewtoob8835
      @fokyewtoob8835 Před 2 lety

      Because most prosecutors don’t give a damn about the law they just want to make a name for themselves by putting as many people in cages regardless of the situation

  • @AIRFORCEFREAK1
    @AIRFORCEFREAK1 Před 2 lety +35

    What I'm learning is to do everything to avoid having to use guns in defense or just defense in general. The best thing you can do is avoid conflict.

    • @elmateo77
      @elmateo77 Před rokem +4

      Absolutely. Winning a gunfight is the second worst case scenario (the worst being losing obviously).

    • @stargazer2042
      @stargazer2042 Před rokem +2

      Now if only the bad guys wanted to avoid attacking too, you'd actually get to use that policy. But if they break into your home, what can you do?

    • @Shadow__133
      @Shadow__133 Před rokem +1

      @@stargazer2042Move if you live in a bad hood.

    • @504Trey
      @504Trey Před 11 měsíci

      Guns are dangerous & should be banned from all citizens

  • @ArthurHoudini
    @ArthurHoudini Před 2 lety +2

    A good rule of thumb is that if you want people to help you, don't be a jerk.

  • @nancyallen8497
    @nancyallen8497 Před 2 lety +22

    Grandma also told me you never ever fight the police in the street obey their commands and deal with any problems in a courtroom
    later on.

    • @BLMacab
      @BLMacab Před 2 lety

      so drive off toss the burner plead 5?

    • @kirkmullins455
      @kirkmullins455 Před rokem

      Grandma was wrong. That's how people get rail roaded or killed by the police. Thousands upon thousands of videos prove this. Worst part is most cops get away with it due to the judicial doctrine of qualified immunity.

  • @nancyallen8497
    @nancyallen8497 Před 2 lety +48

    My grandma told me when I was very young there's two people in life you should always tell the truth to,
    your lawyer and your doctor. Never lie to them.

    • @cassiespencer6134
      @cassiespencer6134 Před 2 lety +2

      Your grandma was wise. Not doing so can only hurt you, and seldom if ever help you. A lesson I learned the hard way.

    • @BLMacab
      @BLMacab Před 2 lety

      what about cops and bosses as a junkie vandal thief with no arrest or tickets its worked for me, never christians, democrats or women tho, THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

    • @---cr8nw
      @---cr8nw Před 2 lety +2

      As someone who works in the insurance industry, I can tell you with certainty that telling the truth to your doctor CAN hurt you. I've personally denied life insurance claims on the basis of medical health records. You go to the doctor and tell him that you have sharp chest pains, that gets documented whether or not you remember saying it.

    • @floggyWM1
      @floggyWM1 Před 2 lety

      @@---cr8nw exactly, u also dont want to the your lawyer the whole truth...

    • @aidenralston5477
      @aidenralston5477 Před 2 lety

      @@---cr8nw Why is it bad that you having chest pains was documented?

  • @alanbiker5838
    @alanbiker5838 Před 2 lety +9

    I once got out of a ticket by being nice and answering his "Do you know why" question with "I wouldn't want to incriminate myself". He thought that was funny.

    • @larrythompson8630
      @larrythompson8630 Před 2 lety +1

      I have gotten off a most times. (Two tickets for speeding in my life). Drive a lot, multiple vehicle types, states, always @5 over.. “I was speeding” the two I got. (And deserved) I was @14 over. Knocked down to 6 over. Half the fine.
      A little honesty, respect helps. I don’t say how fast. “I saw you, looked down, I was over”. If asked “looked like 5?” Honestly my pickup 55 fells like 85 feels in the car. I was at 70+ in 55 in car. Said “I have to set cruise control. This car is so smooth. In pickup 55 feels fast. Give me a ticket”. Verbal warning. (I do use cruise in car otherwise…)

    • @Shadow__133
      @Shadow__133 Před rokem +2

      @@larrythompson8630Jeez dude, you are probably being let go ease to stop the talking 😂

  • @davidphilpott31
    @davidphilpott31 Před 2 lety +3

    I was here, bad guy was there, I was afraid for my life I kicked his weapon over there, and I intend to fully cooperate with you after I speak to my attorney.

  • @georgea6403
    @georgea6403 Před 2 lety +5

    Very well explained about what goes on behind the scenes. So many things to consider and dealing with all the personalities. Neat!

  • @TireSmokin1
    @TireSmokin1 Před 2 lety +25

    Just wanted to take a moment to thank you for posting these videos on CZcams. This past year we moved out of California to a 2nd amendment supporting state. After a few months we purchased our first 9mm. First thing we did after learning how to handle and use it at our local indoor range was our USCCA insurance along with memberships to the NRA and Gun Owners of America. The information you guys provide publicly has always been interesting and now possibly life or life sentence saving. Looking forward to diving into the private member video library this week with my wife and a warm bowl of popcorn.
    Thanks again, your newest member Steve

    • @TireSmokin1
      @TireSmokin1 Před 2 lety

      @@AttyTomGrieve If interested? Funny man. Subscribed to your channel as well. Thanks again for all the great info!

    • @AttyTomGrieve
      @AttyTomGrieve Před 2 lety

      @@TireSmokin1 Ha, thanks, appreciate it Steve!

  • @scottmoore765
    @scottmoore765 Před 2 lety +12

    Really appreciate videos like this. As professionals in most services it's probably good for the client to listen carefully to their advice and then ask the right questions before making decisions. Educating yourself about your situation is fine if your leaning on the person you hired to help guide you through their experience and expertise.

    • @AttyTomGrieve
      @AttyTomGrieve Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks, and be sure to check out the Tom Grieve channel as well!

  • @IDNHANTU2day
    @IDNHANTU2day Před 2 lety +12

    This is great advise. Thank you. And by the way, every police officer gets the wonderful opportunity to have a talk with Internal Affairs at least once during their career. And they learn that you should always have a defense rep present. Even if for the small things. And you want one who sits very close to you with his foot next to yours to let you know when to STFU!

    • @AttyTomGrieve
      @AttyTomGrieve Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks, and be sure to check out the Tom Grieve channel as well!

    • @cassiespencer6134
      @cassiespencer6134 Před 2 lety +2

      The 'foot warning' is truly worth its weight in gold. One can easily get themselves in more trouble than they ever thought possible simply by talking when it would greatly behoove them to STFU!. Ask me how I know!

    • @IDNHANTU2day
      @IDNHANTU2day Před 2 lety +2

      @@cassiespencer6134 I've been there bro. Why give the head hunters more ammo? And It's funny to see old partners move on to work IA and me knowing they got more bones in their closet than Arlington.

    • @cassiespencer6134
      @cassiespencer6134 Před 2 lety +2

      @@IDNHANTU2day Good point and is advice I too often give. Nevermind the fact it sounds like we've both 'been there'.

  • @theresateeters0104
    @theresateeters0104 Před rokem

    TY for all the information that you share with us. I love watching them AND All The things that I have learned And what I was unsure of and didn't know. Y'all Stay Safe Out There TY very much for your time.

  • @randyschweiss847
    @randyschweiss847 Před 2 lety +9

    It's very simple. If you're involved in a critical incident you do two things right away. Shut up, and Lawyer up. Your life is in your lawyer's hands so above all, you treat them with respect, and listen to what they tell you.

    • @fakecubed
      @fakecubed Před rokem +3

      Treat your lawyer with respect, but do understand that a lot of them don't know anything about guns, or the nuances of self-defense beyond the legal aspects. There are many areas where they will lack critical knowledge and don't know how to argue on subjective things the prosecutor will try to smear you with. You need to make sure your lawyer is bringing in good expert witnesses, and self-defense consultants, who can fill in whatever gaps in their knowledge that they have, and refute whatever crazy nonsense the prosecutor will say to the jury. The lawyer will do the lawyering, but as a gun owner you need to think about what the average random person on the jury thinks about guns and self-defense encounters that is totally wrong, and make sure your case will be a strong one before such a stupid and brainwashed group of people. Prosecutors will use absolutely everything they can to try and put you away. They will say objectively untrue things, and they will probably bring in witnesses to outright lie and spread a bunch of anti-gun propaganda. Judges don't know any better, and won't do a thing to stop it. You need your lawyer to be fully prepared to discredit such witnesses, and refute such arguments, so that jurors aren't persuaded by it.

    • @randyschweiss847
      @randyschweiss847 Před rokem +2

      @fakecubed 100% correct. That's why it's so important to consider joining organizations like USCCA or even US Law Shield. Their program attorneys specialize in that field of law. I watched the Kyle Rittenhouse trial start to finish, and in my opinion there were a few times that he came very close to being convicted.

    • @fakecubed
      @fakecubed Před rokem +2

      @@randyschweiss847 Yes, Kyle didn’t have great lawyers. There was some really obvious stuff they missed. He got lucky that the jury wasn’t buying what the prosecution was saying.

  • @learn2listen705
    @learn2listen705 Před 2 lety +9

    If I’m trusting you with my freedom or my life I’m doing what ever you need.

  • @scottharrell7135
    @scottharrell7135 Před 2 lety +14

    With the availability of cameras these days, I personally always wear a body cam. It's saves a lot of brain strain on trying to remember every step of a high stress situation.

    • @prepinvest
      @prepinvest Před 2 lety +1

      Where did you get your body cam from?

    • @arthurredfield5093
      @arthurredfield5093 Před 2 lety +6

      I feel like you're kinda weird for that but I get it.

    • @Anon54387
      @Anon54387 Před 2 lety +1

      @@arthurredfield5093 There's a photographer from a big city in the USA who always wears a camera. He does entertaining videos and in fact that is why he is always wearing a camera. But should he be robbed, or worse, that'd serve as great evidence.
      I'm considering getting a dash cam for my car. Someone caused an accident for which I was not at fault, but the other party lied and made it seem like my fault. I had no proof that they were lying, but if I'd had a dash cam there would have been.

    • @Shadow__133
      @Shadow__133 Před rokem +2

      Share the bodycam model with us. I've been looking for one.
      For now I use my apple watch or phone to record voice when I need it.

  • @user-jv4ic8rh4d
    @user-jv4ic8rh4d Před 2 lety +6

    All those mistakes can be wrapped into one mistake...Wrong place, wrong time. That's why I personally never get out of bed. 😆

  • @lessmith1409
    @lessmith1409 Před 2 lety

    Thanks Kevin for another great informative ideo

  • @mrca2004
    @mrca2004 Před 7 měsíci

    You never forget when they change their story on the stand. Had it happen with a power company target defendant insured. Resulted in a verdict in excess of the policy limits that had to be paid since the policy limit demand hadn't been met. The following day , my attorney had his first heart attack.

  • @lyndakempland4559
    @lyndakempland4559 Před 2 lety +12

    1st, 2nd? Are we in kindergarten?

  • @chipmunk9911
    @chipmunk9911 Před 2 lety

    That was awesome! I'd love to hear more like that. God bless.

    • @AttyTomGrieve
      @AttyTomGrieve Před 2 lety

      Thanks, and be sure to check out the Tom Grieve channel as well!

  • @ceofounder
    @ceofounder Před rokem +3

    Thank you so much for this informative and educating video upload regarding gun ownership.
    Unfortunately I currently reside in a state that is absolutely against a law abiding citizen protecting his/her self!
    This state and city wants you to walk around with a proverbial
    "Victim" card!

  • @scaleworksRC
    @scaleworksRC Před 2 lety

    Thank you sirs!

  • @jimlahey7066
    @jimlahey7066 Před rokem +2

    Always remember, the only thing a cop wants from you is to put you in jail. They’ll demand you make statements to save yourself, yet they wouldn’t dream of talking to a detective. Never trust them

  • @colterharbin
    @colterharbin Před 2 lety +1

    This wasn’t about gun defense this was a general overview of how to deal with your lawyer.
    This video should be title “you got a lawyer 101”

  • @c1kevinc768
    @c1kevinc768 Před 2 lety +8

    Why so much concern on when a client wants to meet with their attorney. I get some of your points, but at the end of the day, this is a very stressful situation for the client, and they are usually paying the attorney a LOT of money for that time.

    • @georgesebastian6306
      @georgesebastian6306 Před 2 lety +1

      IMO you are retaining an attorney not buying a slave. You don't own or control their time. Representation is a two way street. You are not their sole reason for existence.

    • @JoeSmith-jo1tf
      @JoeSmith-jo1tf Před 2 lety +1

      If he's good attorney, he can pick and choose clients-why would he work with clients who meet at crazy times if he doesn't have to?

  • @heyboy33333
    @heyboy33333 Před 2 lety +6

    So what I've heard is that if you plea, you are liable to pay back all the attorney fees covered by USCCA. Is that true?

    • @jimm.5831
      @jimm.5831 Před 2 lety +12

      No insurance company will cover intentional illegal acts. A plea deal is, in the eyes of the insurance company, an admission to guilt, even though to a lesser charge. If you are innocent of committing the crime (you are accused of) you must take the case to trial. I was accused of 3 felonies for protecting myself from 2 convicted career felons high on meth. Took it to trial and won. Fortunately I had been a member for about 3½ years at the time. USCCA paid for everything. Got my gun back and my lifetime carry license back. It's cheap insurance but take it to trial if you're innocent of the crime. Also, I didn't spend one second in a jail cell.

    • @arthurredfield5093
      @arthurredfield5093 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jimm.5831 You smoke em?

    • @jimm.5831
      @jimm.5831 Před 2 lety +2

      @@arthurredfield5093 No, they backed off when I drew.

    • @heyboy33333
      @heyboy33333 Před 2 lety +1

      @@jimm.5831 So if you are found guilty, do you have to pay back your attorney fees? I mean jury's sometimes find people guilty who's actions either are not worthy of a guilty plea or are in that grey area. Also, does USCCA cover the appeal? I know CCW Safe does cover the appeal as well.

    • @jimm.5831
      @jimm.5831 Před 2 lety +1

      @@heyboy33333 I really don't know. I would think they will not require you to return any money if you're found guilty. I don't know about the appeal but they did offer to pay for attorney if I needed help getting my carry license back. I ended up calling my state senator and he helped me get that back.

  • @ericdescant1259
    @ericdescant1259 Před 2 lety +6

    I feel like just like it is our responsibility to ‘digress’ a difficult situation, we should be able to implement the same practice to our own selves if or when we are approached by law enforcement!

    • @BLMacab
      @BLMacab Před 2 lety

      just lie if they don't look military or ANGRY chubby highway patrol if that DIP!

    • @fakecubed
      @fakecubed Před rokem +2

      Yeah, if you see a cop down one street, pick another street to travel. Avoid interactions with cops at all costs.

  • @terrymofmich
    @terrymofmich Před 2 lety +1

    I have a good job - $30/hr. I have to work all week to pay the lawyer 1 1/2 - 2 hours of his time. Can the damn courts hurry things up? I mean, WHY does a 9am court hearing start at 10:30am?

  • @Sourpusscandy
    @Sourpusscandy Před 2 lety +2

    See “I know my rights!!” Go wrong on the channel ACTIVE SELF PROTECTION.

  • @rebelstudio2720
    @rebelstudio2720 Před 2 lety +3

    By LAW a crime can only be committed if it is done with malice intent.

    • @seank2894
      @seank2894 Před rokem

      Intent is inferred by courts, so it is whatever they say.

  • @rudyg528
    @rudyg528 Před 2 lety +1

    Tom ever think of opening an office in ILLINOIS?.

  • @Fudmottin
    @Fudmottin Před 2 lety +6

    I just want the same protections a police officer gets if things go south.

    • @cassiespencer6134
      @cassiespencer6134 Před 2 lety

      You already have them, even though you may not think so. And btw, please don't tell me I'm clueless while throwing forty-nine fits and claiming I have no idea WTF I'm talking about. That alone tells one everything they need to know often making it more likely you won't like the outcome. I've been down a lot of roads and some of them weren't paved. Hence I speak from experience.

    • @Fudmottin
      @Fudmottin Před 2 lety +2

      @@cassiespencer6134 I don't recall telling you that you're clueless. Could you please show me where I did that? I'll be happy to retract the comment so long as I have the context.

    • @cassiespencer6134
      @cassiespencer6134 Před 2 lety

      @@Fudmottin I don't recall anyone calling me clueless, although it wouldn't surprise me as I've been called far worse. That said it doesn't bother me in the least. I simply take it as one who can't formulate a rational argument and thus hurl insults instead.

    • @Fudmottin
      @Fudmottin Před 2 lety

      @@cassiespencer6134 Perhaps this is simply a YT comments SNAFU. There's been a lot of weird stuff in comments all over the place lately. Look out for the stuff that has numbers in circles and saying you won something. I don't know why YT hasn't fixed that yet.

    • @cassiespencer6134
      @cassiespencer6134 Před 2 lety +1

      @@Fudmottin Thanks for the heads up. :)

  • @922crappiebbq8
    @922crappiebbq8 Před 2 lety

    Man i agree with most everything unless it is local public defender's. I have set at a restaurant and personally heard prosecutor and public defender talking about a case in which i had knowledge of. That case was lost for the defendant b4 trial started i reported said arrangement and it was never investigated. So that being said always seek second opinion weather it a lawyer or a doctor not enough soace to explain the later

  • @firedog9113
    @firedog9113 Před rokem

    What's fun, we taught teachers all summer so far, they did the Marshall classes, all but 1 passed with ease, the 1 passed the class still, just a bit slower due to age. I enjoy helping them cause so many ppl are talented with a gun but need to by pass the stress they get shooting, after day 2, we stress test them, carsio and a little hand to hand, so many of them do better after day 2, day 3 we do more stress but they over come cause they realize the stress is rough but we are not the target to kill

  • @yourgirlfriendlooklikemymo6136

    Would pin and welding a 6 inch mock suppressor to a 10.5 make it legally 16 inches? I have a bunch of old parts laying around and I want to build a Frankenstein but I only have a 10.5 barrel and don't want to make a pistol or sbr

  • @jessedorsettii9988
    @jessedorsettii9988 Před rokem

    I like the old Perry Mason. His clients always held stuff back and drove him mad.

  • @hbsoldier3
    @hbsoldier3 Před 2 lety

    How soon is really soon? In addition, what do you do with the email intel you receive?

  • @firedog9113
    @firedog9113 Před rokem

    I work on a farm part time, all 23 of us have to have a CCL, we carry a handgun and an AR15 also in the caliber we like. I carry a 40 cal concealed and 300 blackout. Miss Maye has a friend of mine as a lawyer for us all, she hasn't lost a case yet over gun rights in court and we don't pull our guns unless needed, none of us have had to yet.

  • @DavidL-wd5pu
    @DavidL-wd5pu Před 2 lety +5

    Great videos, gun education is very important especially living in liberal land.

  • @jmichaelcarbonniere9549
    @jmichaelcarbonniere9549 Před 2 lety +11

    As much as I generally like your video's this is one time I might just kinda disagree, or at least add a couple of drops of caution into the mix. Not all attorney's are created equal and not all of them are as competent as we would all like them to be. Unless you already know your "fixer" or unless you know of his/her reputation (and generally speaking the better known they are the more money it will take to get them on your side!), it can be a crap shoot as to whether you're getting a good one or one who is, let's be nice here and say is a bit, lackluster in your defense (this is especially true if you are forced to pick an attorney out of the phone book!). Unfortunately, I have some experience in this regard, and fortunately it wasn't a criminal case... if it were, I would be sending this from jail! I ended up with this clown when my regular attorney suddenly passed away from throat cancer. The pea brain that took over my case was as lackluster as all get out (perhaps because it wasn't a big, money making case? For him, maybe, but it meant a lot to me!). He hurt me financially in one case and flat out screwed me over in another, unrelated but concurrent case! So, use caution when your freedom might depend on how your attorney handles your case. Be involved, know what his/her plan is and how they plan on executing that plan (if they won't tell you it's because they either don't have one or they think you 'did it' and don't think you have a chance... now is the time to switch attorneys!) . Don't just blindly follow what they say... know the options and odds or you might find yourself in a world of pain!
    Cheers,
    jc

    • @ferd1775
      @ferd1775 Před 2 lety +1

      Most underrated comment 💯

    • @fakecubed
      @fakecubed Před rokem +1

      When it comes to self-defense law, remember that most lawyers, even criminal lawyers, are not experts on self-defense. Most of the clients they defend are scumbag criminals who were out to do no good. Most lawyers don't carry guns, and they tend to live in nice low-crime neighborhoods and haven't spent much time thinking about self-defense. Most of them believe the same anti-gun propaganda that the prosecution will be telling the jury at your trial, and won't know how to counter, and even completely refute those arguments. You want a specialist. You want your lawyer working with self-defense consultants, and you want to make sure your lawyer is hiring self-defense experts to put on the stand at your trial.

  • @JR-hy2mq
    @JR-hy2mq Před rokem

    Quick question doesn’t the uscca fine print say if your found guilty of a charge which I don’t think it fully defines if it’s by plea deal or not they will come after you for whatever money was put out for you and you will owe them?

  • @alvinb.3024
    @alvinb.3024 Před 2 lety

    I’m still waiting to take some good notes..

  • @tomyunker3368
    @tomyunker3368 Před 2 lety +8

    The justice system today is not about justice, it's about deals. That's why when someone gets arrested for a single crime, they charge them with 15 or 20 counts. That way they can get you to deal and it's a win for them.

    • @BLMacab
      @BLMacab Před 2 lety

      bernie wants it that way

  • @GaryBlankenship96b40
    @GaryBlankenship96b40 Před 2 lety +1

    I hear you guys i hired an attorney for a charge and did have doubts if he was actually looking after my interests. I wanted a jurior trial in our state and county that is 6 jurors not 12 lol. The whole experience was an education. I did finally take my lawyers advice after prosecutor offered an exspongement if i took plea. It all worked out but the back door deals between lawyers and prosecutors i could hear it and that is when i said what is really going on here.

    • @jimm.5831
      @jimm.5831 Před 2 lety +4

      I got an out of state attorney licensed in my state. No one knew him so none of that "good 'ol boy" back room dealing could happen. I won with a 6 person jury. He hired a co-counsel and they made the prosecution team look like idiots.

    • @cassiespencer6134
      @cassiespencer6134 Před 2 lety +2

      You were involved in something which you had no prior experience with. So of course it was disconcerting and worrisome.That and you had to place your trust in individuals I assume you didn't know until then. I too have been there. What helped me was the fact it didn't kill me and thus only made me stronger.

  • @daffidavit
    @daffidavit Před 2 lety +13

    As an attorney at law in four (4) states for the past 42 years, I agree with the above statements made in this video, for what my personal opinion is worth. I'm a Board Certified Civil Trial Attorney in the State of New Jersey and have been so since 1990. Does that make me an expert on gun law? No, it does not. Does it give me some authority over what can happen after you have been arrested in the State of N.J.? The answer is: "yes it does". In the other states which I'm admitted to the answer may be different.
    The answer regarding the other States is this: "maybe yes or maybe no".
    But I'll defer to our experts above to give you the latest and greatest legal information. All I can say is whether I agree or disagree with them regarding the statements made in the above video. In my opinion, I agree with the legal opinions of those stated in the above video.

    • @haywoodyoudome
      @haywoodyoudome Před 2 lety +4

      @First name Last name Typical non-committal attorney speak.

  • @carybobo
    @carybobo Před rokem

    The biggest advice is to avoid/defuse conflicts whether you think you’re right or wrong. Avoid locations of likely confrontation situations. The legal risks just are worth chancing a not guilty or innocent ruling.

  • @Thes564
    @Thes564 Před 2 lety

    Yes thanks Tom that was good to know.I would certainly not plead guilty to anything i didnt do including misdemeanors but i would be proffessional with the cops and you and the court.

    • @AttyTomGrieve
      @AttyTomGrieve Před 2 lety

      Thanks, and be sure to check out the Tom Grieve channel as well!

    • @Thes564
      @Thes564 Před 2 lety

      @@AttyTomGrieve Hey Tom i am a member and would like to call you regarding a question what number can i reach you at ?

  • @marvelousmelo
    @marvelousmelo Před 2 lety

    Say you go out to the range and end up getting a call from a friend or family member or someone. Then they want to go out and get lunch and end up having drinks. Would it be breaking the law if you have a lock box in your car would you get in trouble if your firearm is unloaded and in the lock box?

  • @RickheadWashington
    @RickheadWashington Před 2 lety +1

    What state do you guys work in? As law enforcement and as a criminal defense attorney?

    • @AttyTomGrieve
      @AttyTomGrieve Před 2 lety +1

      We are in Wisconsin. ~Lawyer from the video.

  • @ericpatrick5542
    @ericpatrick5542 Před rokem

    I Feel Like Being The Mortal Kombat Sub Zero, The Mortal Kombat Reptile, The Mortal Kombat Kung Lao, The Mortal Kombat Nightwolf, The Street Fighter Guile, The Street Fighter Ken, The Street Fighter Ryu, And The Street Fighter Guy.

  • @loc4725
    @loc4725 Před 2 lety +1

    Well now I know what a defence attorney *really* likes talking about. 😏

  • @snex000
    @snex000 Před 2 lety +6

    "Assert your rights but don't be a jerk to cops."
    Have you ever met a cop? Anything other than immediate obedience and answering every question to their satisfaction is seen by them as being a jerk.

    • @AttyTomGrieve
      @AttyTomGrieve Před 2 lety

      I have met a cop or two. And that is true some of the time, but by no means all the time.

    • @BLMacab
      @BLMacab Před 2 lety

      not benson in provo, he liked rand and ted, i low key had an oz tho n blew 2loads before he krept up, homeless things

  • @garym7937
    @garym7937 Před 2 lety

    When I worked for a credit card company in the Escalated Call unit in collections, I loved it when mommy would call and blame us for giving her little 18 year old Johnny a credit card and he decided not to pay what he charged back. Talk about helicopter parents.

  • @UncleCharlieDeuce
    @UncleCharlieDeuce Před 2 lety

    @uscca can you advise what happens to your USCCA insurance if you accept the misdemeanors that he references instead of going to trial against felonies? Doesn’t that make it null and void and you have to pay for everything yourself? So your choice is potential bankruptcy or going for the jury/felony trial and take your chances? If that’s the case what’s the point of CCW insurance?

    • @unclecracker5010
      @unclecracker5010 Před 2 lety

      @UncleCharlieDuece
      As an ELITE MEMBER of USCCA are you saying that if I agree to plea to a misdemeanor instead of defending myself in trial I WILL LOSE MY MEMBERSHIP with USCCA and have to pay for ALL COURT COSTS?????

    • @UncleCharlieDeuce
      @UncleCharlieDeuce Před 2 lety

      @@unclecracker5010 THAT is my exact question!

  • @zoltanliszkai2162
    @zoltanliszkai2162 Před rokem

    No good deed will go unpunished

  • @jbdadizzle
    @jbdadizzle Před rokem

    Question. If someones yelling at me and threatening me acting crazy without a weapon but to scare them off if I draw my weapon just so I don't escalate the situation to a fight and to have the person walk away without anything happening but instead of the person walking away, if he runs towards me (without a weapon) even if mines drawn, can I get in trouble for shooting him?

    • @ronblessinger2429
      @ronblessinger2429 Před rokem

      Walk away. Walk away. Leave the weapon holstered. You will hang if you don’t.

  • @TheMMAHater
    @TheMMAHater Před 2 lety +2

    Protip dont put the punisher logo anywhere on your gun dont even wear it, its cursed.

  • @karlmadsen3179
    @karlmadsen3179 Před 2 lety

    Good thing he didn't say, "Hiring me." That would be so sad.

  • @helpicantfindaname1
    @helpicantfindaname1 Před rokem

    Can you guys do a vid about common traps, pitfalls, oops? For example, schools are gun free zones. I keep guns in my car when I pick my kid up. Is this allowed or if the crossing guard got a bee in her bonnet would I be going to the pokey?

  • @willieboy3011
    @willieboy3011 Před 2 lety +2

    A little lengthy but still good information overall. My question: how do you defend a monster for a client? For example, a Darrell Walker who intentionally ran over more than 40 people, killing 6, at a Thanksgiving parade? Or a John Wayne Gacy? Personally, how do you sleep knowing that you are helping these creatures? Not a judgement, I am really curious.

    • @dsmith1236
      @dsmith1236 Před 2 lety +1

      I once had a lawyer say that you don’t ever ask them if they did it or not but I don’t know they do it either

    • @1anthonybrowning
      @1anthonybrowning Před 2 lety +1

      One of OJ’s defense attorneys was Kardasian. After the verdict, not guilty of murder on two counts, Kardasian never spoke OJ again, not even when OJ visited him on his death bed.

    • @willieboy3011
      @willieboy3011 Před 2 lety

      @@1anthonybrowning Interesting. I think Kardashian died sometime after that also.

    • @markw4012
      @markw4012 Před 2 lety

      Never forget that these attorneys are simply working within a legal system that “we the people“ have approved of via the representatives we’ve voted for. If you don’t like it don’t blame them; look in the mirror.

    • @willieboy3011
      @willieboy3011 Před 2 lety

      When I look in the mirror, I do not see someone who helped a killer escspe justice. How about you?

  • @williamonderlinde5068
    @williamonderlinde5068 Před 2 lety

    I want this guy, Tom "Matlock" Grieve to defend me.

  • @HowsItHappening
    @HowsItHappening Před 2 lety

    Wow, you have extremely similar problems patients that I have as a tile installer. The people that want you to come at ridiculous times or days, the people that come at you with nonsense they found onlinethe people that have a friend that said it should go in like this, the people that will tell you how to do it, ect. The last two are easy to handle though, just tell them "oh, you should get your friend to do it then" or "well, why am I here if you know how to do all of this?". However, I love the customers (usually stay at home women) that come at me with all kinds of ideas from pinterest and that other photo sharing thing they love. It makes the job a little more fun and makes me feel like I accomplished something. Oh damn, I started rambling again, lol.

  • @king02124
    @king02124 Před rokem

    If this is your lawyer, get ready to do some time

  • @Redspeciality
    @Redspeciality Před 2 lety

    I dont know about telling your attorney everything. I once told my attorney I has committed thus crime. He got one of two charges removed in a plea deal. And I plead guilty to a felony. I was a naive kid at 18. Years later I realized, there had been no evidence against me. All they had was the say so of a coconspirator that had been caught. He could have picked a name out of a phone book and that was the extent of their evidence. Lousy lawyer was anout to become a judge and wanted to get rid of my case as quickly as he could, and charged me three grand for it. Also, he told me I’d get 3 years of probation and after that I’d get a certificate of rehabilitation and it would be like it never happened. He didn’t mention I could never own a firearm for the rest of my life unless I got a pardon from the Governor of California, as if that was possible.

  • @ahandgrenade3640
    @ahandgrenade3640 Před 2 lety +1

    i have a serious question for anyone who could answer this. i live in an attic and its really hot up here. i don't have anywhere else to go either. im worried my guns are gonna get messed up and i don't have anywhere else to put them . are they gonna be ok and can i keep my shotgun loaded for home defense given the circumstances?

    • @Caannnnoonn
      @Caannnnoonn Před 2 lety

      I wouldn't be worries. Look at the guys in the middle east, it's 100+ a lot of the year and their guns seem to still function.

    • @unclecracker5010
      @unclecracker5010 Před 2 lety

      Buy an air conditioner!!!!

  • @stephengreen3566
    @stephengreen3566 Před 2 lety

    If I yell, it's bad, if the cops yell, well, that's ok then. NOT!

  • @vandidandi
    @vandidandi Před 2 lety +1

    Maybe they do this because lawyer lie to them about the outcome and sometimes works with the prosecutor against their own clients?

  • @Shootskas
    @Shootskas Před rokem

    The worst lawyers are those lawyers that take on too many clients and then don't have a clue about your case. Avoid those lawyers at all costs. If this guy's practice is taking on thousands of clients, they won't be able to give you the representation you need.

  • @nancyallen8497
    @nancyallen8497 Před 2 lety

    It seems like a major conflict of interest to me that defense attorneys and prosecutors and judges are all required to be members of the same private club called the Bar Association which has no government affiliation.

  • @chrisjung7139
    @chrisjung7139 Před rokem

    So is the thumbnail spelling laywer,. Intentional showing a mistake, or really an error?

  • @rickylonghaul682
    @rickylonghaul682 Před 2 lety

    I have a giggle every time I see the thumbnail for this video because it says "LAYWER" instead of "LAWYER."

  • @tc4660
    @tc4660 Před rokem

    If you are innocent you want to avoid the justice system with all your being. Never call the police.

  • @et2878
    @et2878 Před 2 lety +1

    This is why I always advised running away from the scene after a defensive gun use. They can’t build a case against you if you’re never caught.

  • @eddiehuff7366
    @eddiehuff7366 Před 2 lety

    I have never understood folks who are paying a good attorney but don't do or say what the attorney instructs them to do or say. If you are gonna do your own thing don't hire an attorney.

  • @manuelguerra1080
    @manuelguerra1080 Před rokem

    how does one get in on the gun giveaways when they are already an elite member?

  • @deborahbreeden4394
    @deborahbreeden4394 Před 2 lety

    I asked the legal assistant of the attorney my son hired to ask the attorney if he would suggest to my son that he change his style from homeless zz top to clean shaven whyte boy.
    Knowing that the suggestion would carry more weight from the attorney than from Mom.
    Attorney suggested & son complied. Charges greatly reduced to fines & time served.

  • @pelicule
    @pelicule Před rokem

    Cops are not your friends and neither are lawyers. That should be the first thing a gun owner learns. They are public servants and not the fiduciaries they portray themselves as. If a cop says he wants to help you, be very suspicious. Better yet, shut up and ask to speak with YOUR lawyer.

  • @Logan2070
    @Logan2070 Před 2 lety

    I'd like to see a documentary, about a serial killer that preys exclusively on Lawyers...

    • @AttyTomGrieve
      @AttyTomGrieve Před 2 lety +2

      Ha! I'd..... rather not. ~Lawyer from the video.

  • @nobodynoone2500
    @nobodynoone2500 Před 2 lety +1

    I was hoping for useful info, I just got you griping about past clients. Thanks for wasting my time, I won't waste it on you guys again.

  • @michaeltorluemke3322
    @michaeltorluemke3322 Před 2 lety +2

    Had to laugh when you said cops made some of the best clients. I was on a jury once and if I went with the cops testimony the man would have gotten off. Too bad for the accused he decided to testify on his own behalf and managed to talk himself into a conviction and jail time.

    • @daltongarrett7117
      @daltongarrett7117 Před 2 lety

      So you are basing this take from a witness who was a police officer, not a defendant at was a police officer? That sounds like an exact science...

    • @daltongarrett7117
      @daltongarrett7117 Před 2 lety

      @@davesomeone4059 umm, he said he was laughing at the thought that a cop made a good defendant, then used a story where the cop was a witness. Those are 2 fairly different positions to judge one based off of the other, at least in my eyes.

    • @davesomeone4059
      @davesomeone4059 Před 2 lety

      @@daltongarrett7117 I musta been sleepy when I made that comment..

    • @daltongarrett7117
      @daltongarrett7117 Před 2 lety

      @@davesomeone4059 lol it's all good.

  • @mrmodelt3062
    @mrmodelt3062 Před 2 lety

    Load another VHS 😂

  • @ericpatrick5542
    @ericpatrick5542 Před rokem

    I Like Going To Martial Arts Tournament And Learn To Fight For Money And Medals And Trophies And The Three Black Belts.

  • @SeedsAndStuff
    @SeedsAndStuff Před 2 lety

    So are y’all trying to eliminate the injustice against non aggressors or pander to it in these courts ?

  • @corbettknowles9942
    @corbettknowles9942 Před 2 lety

    I'm going say this again I'm not going any details of self defense incident I was in just because I don't like talking about it and I was fortunate and everything worked out smoothly but the night that incident happen I gave the basic information I needed to give them and then when I was asked go down and give a written statement I went down to the station but invoked my right to have counsel present which I have to say the detectives didn't get upset or nothing like that I was finger printed and released to go be with my family about 2 day later I gave a full stement with counsel present of the incident and followed advice of the attorney theough that process when attorney told officer were done with question we were done but the key is to seek legal counsel if u are involved in that situation qnd follow rule of thumb loose lips sinks ships

  • @rebelstudio2720
    @rebelstudio2720 Před 2 lety

    You remind them of the federal civil rights lawsuit under 18 US CODES 241 and 242. And you use 18 US CODE 248 in court to file a move for a motion of dismissal on the grounds that your civil rights has been violated when arrested on the spot like you are guilty first till proven innocent. That violates your civil rights. You are free and innocent by the highest laws of the land under Juris Prudence. Not under ADMIRALTY LEGALITY LAW. We have to force them to have us under the Juris Prudence of Common Law. All judges are bound by Juris Prudence Law.

  • @cedrickhaggard1981
    @cedrickhaggard1981 Před 2 lety

    I wish Tom is was attorney.

  • @gw6496
    @gw6496 Před 2 lety

    Question for Tom, what made you stop working for the D.A. office?🤔

    • @AttyTomGrieve
      @AttyTomGrieve Před 2 lety +2

      Great question! Maybe I should do a video on it?

    • @gw6496
      @gw6496 Před 2 lety

      @@AttyTomGrieve Yes you should 👍🏾👍🏾

  • @markmcgoveran6811
    @markmcgoveran6811 Před rokem

    He left off one guy on the list I'm sure he doesn't like. The guy that goes on the internet to clear himself in the court of public opinion and provides a lot of evidence for the other side.

  • @juantrevino1574
    @juantrevino1574 Před rokem

    Couldn't hear that well on all your videos.

  • @rebelstudio2720
    @rebelstudio2720 Před 2 lety

    All gun shops by abiding by federal laws is violating 18 US CODES 241 and 242.

  • @manlybaker3098
    @manlybaker3098 Před rokem

    You have THE RIGHT TO REMAIN SILENT. USE IT ... right after you CLEARLY and EXPLICITLY claim your RIGHTS under 5th Amendment.

  • @forthelulz8085
    @forthelulz8085 Před rokem

    If you are having an interaction with police he should be telling us to utilize your fifth amendment rights. Your words will be used against you in a court of law, so don't give them additional information to use against you. Provide as little information as possible because you don't know if that cop is on your side or not.

  • @BearInTheWoods931
    @BearInTheWoods931 Před rokem

    Obey the law. Avoid conflict. Politely invoke your rights. Obey the law. Give your attorney (and police) firm ground to defend you. Did I mention obey the law?

  • @SeedsAndStuff
    @SeedsAndStuff Před 2 lety

    Hell no y’all need to start screening these lawyers this is suppose to be about the 2 A and restoring actual self defense for those who aren’t looking to infringe who can stand their ground with out the intent to infringe and not providing Faux morality cover for actual criminals without the lawyers using exploitive measures while under the 2A banner against their clients what is this turning into

  • @irishrose7053
    @irishrose7053 Před 2 lety

    I learned years ago. Just because they have attorney in their title doesn't mean they can be trusted or will work in your best interest. Choose your Defense carefully. Some will make your case seem like not worth it and get you to settle or plea deal n run away on an exotic vacation with the $ they made off you. I'm not saying all attorneys are like this but choose wisely.

    • @USCCAOfficial
      @USCCAOfficial  Před 2 lety

      Do you have a plan to get an experienced and trusted attorney if, God forbid, you were ever forced to defend your life?

    • @irishrose7053
      @irishrose7053 Před 2 lety

      @@USCCAOfficial of course you guys

    • @USCCAOfficial
      @USCCAOfficial  Před 2 lety

      Just makin sure ;)

  • @soflodoug
    @soflodoug Před 2 lety

    I wouldnt hire this so called lawyer if he was the last on earth.

  • @soflodoug
    @soflodoug Před 2 lety

    at the end of the day lawyers are liars too🤣

  • @rebelstudio2720
    @rebelstudio2720 Před 2 lety +1

    Does the police have power of attorney over the public to do as they please with. The 1968 CRIME BILL has taken our rights away for officer and public safety. SHALL NOT BE VIOLATED BY THE HIGHEST LAWS OF THE LAND.

  • @Colt-ii4qn
    @Colt-ii4qn Před 2 lety

    The more you listen to these videos the more you don’t want carry, but I still do 😐

    • @AttyTomGrieve
      @AttyTomGrieve Před 2 lety

      Don't. Stop. Carrying. ~The Lawyer from the Video, writing this with from his office while CCWing.