Rubens and his clients did value those paintings "painted by my own hand" higher than studio production that, in turn, were valued lower according to his direct involvement. He got in trouble with some clients, Duke of Buckingham, for allegedly passing off studio works as by his own hand. Rubens' letters are a fascinating insight into his relationships.
There was a show in Toledo Ohio in 1993 with a 12 lb catalog. It was the circle of Rubens. I've heard he had as many as 150 people employed in his factory but that probably include the studios of Jan Fyt, Jacob Jordan's,.... My understanding was that there were secondary and tertiary painters that would work from a Rubens modello. If it need animals, Fyt would get the painting delivered to his studio, flowers to someone else. The secondary painters would do the secondary figures. When almost done, Rubens would do the main faces and figures. The Toledo show was spectacular. There were 2 paintings however that looked like they were painted 2 years prior. Bright colours, no cracks, deep rich as the day they were painted. Looking down at the tag, both were done on copper and were 300 years old. He was the Steven Spielberg of the 17th century.
Sculptors and painters were highly esteemed and titled as recently as the late 19th century. Academicians who won medals often also went on to receive knighthoods, or even the title of Lord. Very rare today.
The Invention of Art: A Cultural History - Larry Shiner 20:00 min Renaissance Through the Arts Collected Essays - Paul Kristeller Larry Shiner seems like an interesting guy. His Art philosophy career has now shifted towards Olfactory Arts. The art of Smelling without Smelling... the art of fighting without fighting 😘 Smell Art.. you cant really youtube-ify that one!
What Jan-Ove Tuv mentioned at 1:50:15, it seems like picture making was safe for the moment -- though this discourse is **exactly** what's going on with AI. History does rhyme.
I started reading this book in high school, I will have to borrow it from my mother and finish reading it… brilliant discussion, thank you.
Rubens and his clients did value those paintings "painted by my own hand" higher than studio production that, in turn, were valued lower according to his direct involvement.
He got in trouble with some clients, Duke of Buckingham, for allegedly passing off studio works as by his own hand.
Rubens' letters are a fascinating insight into his relationships.
👏👏👏👏👏👏looking forward to pt2
There was a show in Toledo Ohio in 1993 with a 12 lb catalog. It was the circle of Rubens. I've heard he had as many as 150 people employed in his factory but that probably include the studios of Jan Fyt, Jacob Jordan's,....
My understanding was that there were secondary and tertiary painters that would work from a Rubens modello. If it need animals, Fyt would get the painting delivered to his studio, flowers to someone else. The secondary painters would do the secondary figures. When almost done, Rubens would do the main faces and figures.
The Toledo show was spectacular.
There were 2 paintings however that looked like they were painted 2 years prior. Bright colours, no cracks, deep rich as the day they were painted. Looking down at the tag, both were done on copper and were 300 years old.
He was the Steven Spielberg of the 17th century.
Sculptors and painters were highly esteemed and titled as recently as the late 19th century. Academicians who won medals often also went on to receive knighthoods, or even the title of Lord. Very rare today.
46:14 not strange at all in my modern ears hehe, frames is what makes my work «so expensive», they charge alot if you want proper glass and good wood
If you guys did a vid sharing some thoughts on meta modernism that would be sweet
The Invention of Art: A Cultural History - Larry Shiner
20:00 min Renaissance Through the Arts Collected Essays - Paul Kristeller
Larry Shiner seems like an interesting guy. His Art philosophy career has now shifted towards Olfactory Arts. The art of Smelling without Smelling... the art of fighting without fighting 😘 Smell Art.. you cant really youtube-ify that one!
awsome guys!
Where can I find this book to read?
synchronicity
What Jan-Ove Tuv mentioned at 1:50:15, it seems like picture making was safe for the moment -- though this discourse is **exactly** what's going on with AI. History does rhyme.