Tolkien's Happy With Lord Of The Rings Changes Claim Academics - Rings of Power Adaptation
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- Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power is Amazon Prime's new star show, but after making many changes to the cannon would Tolkien have been happy with the lore alterations? The Guardian reports that academics claim he would be, despite all evidence to the contrary. Pointing to a previous radio adaptation by the BBC of LOTR that Tolkien was involved in the creation of.
The fact he despised this work afterwards and didn't like fan fiction or changes to his work at all, however, was carefully left out. With this in mind, how likely is it that Tolkien would have liked Amazon Prime's changes to Lord of the Rings in the Rings of Power?
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Disp, did you make this video just because it gave you a chance to comment on the ineptitude of both journalists and academics at the same time? Yes. Yes I did. Let me know your thoughts down below and as always, thanks for watching :)
I haven't read a Tolkien book in a while and trying to read his letters here had me feeling as inept as a journalist. The man had a ludicrous vocabulary and I have mad respect for that.
Most people have opinions, and they usually stink. Yours are pure gold, pure gold.
Is it ineptitude or willful ignorance, deliberate malice and absolute provocation. It sure feels a lot like the later.
Amazon and critics continue their vituperative treatment of fans and Tolkien
I seen a video that the Tolkien estate is gonna be aggressive on copyrights, check channel Tolkien Lore. He did a video about it, i dont know if they're going to strike the small channels first before going after the medium and big ones. I dont know it's because the fans are using the literal books, quotes and Tolkien's letters to combat this.
So I imagine that Amazon and Fake Tokien scholars hates that so they probably demanded that Tokien Estate to do something to damage control.
That’s the biggest “press X to doubt” I have ever seen.
Rightttt??? They are pulling more crap out of their ass then America has guns
Oh how convenient “lost scripts” of Tolkien’s work just happens to pop up at the time where REAL Tolkien fans are calling this show out.
Christopher Tolkien is no more, but what about Baillie? I suppose the legal niceties do not allow her to have much of a say?
What seems much more likely is the Tolkien, perhaps naïvely, was willing to work with the Tiller adaptation, but during 'discussions' came to realise they were going to change it in ways he did not approve of and hence was 'dismayed' and later disparaged it.
Let’s be honest, Tolkien probably wouldn’t have been overly fond of the LotR trilogy, and especially not the Hobbit, so why do these buffoons think he would be okay with this garbage? Also, very convenient and timely discovery from the BBC, almost as if they knew it was there and just happened to ‘discover’ it
Wish we had him to approve the movies. At least Peter Jackson did his best and actually tried.
I think he would have actually liked the LOTR movies. The Hobbit's a different story though...
Mindboggling! Next they will be saying Tolkien got in touch with them via a seance! "He loved the script".
The spelling and grammar corrections that Tolkien objected to included people trying to switch the plural of 'elf' to 'elfs' and the plural of 'dwarf' to 'dwarfs' (instead of elves and dwarves respectively). This was a very big deal to him because everything related to the English language was a big deal to him, so when people tried to 'correct' him he was understandably irked
I did not know that. Thank you.
@@richardduska1558 Read Tom Shippey's book, The Road to Middle-earth: How J.R.R. Tolkien created a new mythology. It's a great book.
A picture's worth a thousand words. All I take away from the article is Tolkien's Big Red X on their adaptation.
Didn't he teach?
Ooh the amount of corrections he must have done!
I'm surprised they didn't bin it, but maybe they tried but someone rescued it?
Stuck in a picture frame entitled "Marked by Tolkien" as a sign of importance!
After all that is a bigger deal than Amazon's Rings of Power!
News from next week: PBS and NPR have consulted with the world renown medium, Madame Distortionia, who has been constantly in contact with the spirit of JRR Tolkien. Accord to her sworn testimony, Tolkien is delighted with the changes made in ROP. Distortionia says "He is elated!! He is so happy someone finally noticed there were no African Dwarfs. He says that was his biggest regret was not living long enough to edit his writings to include the most famous dwarf empire, Compton-Dur. He also wanted to be sure the LGBTQ+ community got the representation he forgot. He alluded to the fact that he always meant to explain that the Entwives disappeared because there were lesbians and wanted to live away from the Ents. Ohhh, and just in case anyone was interested, Radagast was trans." NPR and PBS both applaud the strength and courage of the departed author, reaching out from beyond to set matters right.
If they put half as much effort into making the series fit Tolkien's work as they put into trying to justify their changes we'd be sitting with a masterpiece.
Yes or just had an actual group of fans behind it like Peter Jackson did before they made The Hobbit a trilogy.
Oh wow they just happened to turn up all of a sudden? :o How magical!
tolkien spend about seven decades writing The Lord of The Rings, The Hobbit, The Simlarilion, plus tons of side lore, languages, genealogical trees, maps, history lessons, and more. i bet he's not happy a group of idiots are changing everything in the spawn of a single year
It’s funny that they’re trying to say Tolkien would approve when he absolutely hated it when people tried to make adaptations that didn’t properly follow his books
ICraveTheVoid: but he was ok with this one time…. Why you gotta say he would hate it. Just accept it you cunts
These people think Tolkien would approve of Amazon's adaptation? They're surely mistaken
The best bit is I'm sure they know they're mistaken. But that doesn't align with what they want to do, so will happily say anything they have to to achieve it.
@@disparutoo Sadly, yeah. They're basically like, "we can do whatever we want with this series despite receiving a huge amount of backlash by actual fans"
@@disparutoo "Mistaken" would indicate that they did it by accident, though.
"Early in his career, Tolkien worked with the BBC to adapt his story for radio and then never again worked that closely with anyone for another adaptation again. He must have loved the experience!"
Also, all of the recordings of these beloved radio dramas were destroyed by the BBC for some reason. (Yeah, I know in reality the BBC just routinely destroyed their archived content out of shortsightedness.)
Even calling this fan fiction is giving Amazon too much credit.
Yes, to be fan fiction, one must first be a fan.
As one commenter elsewhere called it: *crackfiction.*
nah, it's not a 'fan'fiction, it's capitalismfiction
They are insane.
Maybe they can ask him when he returns to haunt them for what they are doing to his life's work.
So to them, he was a racist, anti-semite yada yada whose fanbase is also said buzzwords, but also totally ok with his work being turned upside down and filled with an outdating agenda as its internal message because they "found" a manuscript regarding him discussing alterations for the sake of adaptation from one medium to another, so he's cool now, but also isn't depending on if the situation deems it better to call him bad or word around to say he'd be ok with them making something else and adding his IP's name on it for attention
People these days tend to turn their views at random, completely disregarding their loyalty to their cause
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The BBC did adapt LOTR into a radio play (26 hours!). It was very faithful from what I remember with a great cast of classically trained voice actors. In 1981 the BBC didn’t feel the need to make sweeping changes to characters/world building. Same is true of Ralph Bakshi’s animated adaptation …. wonder if this was due to Christopher Tolkiens stewardship???? Seems like a direct contradiction to the BBC/guardians current take when you think about it? Very subjective (boarding on mental gymnastics) view from the BBC/Guardian - poor journalism.
Yes I agree I still have the full set of tapes and it was true to the source for what they could do at the time and the BBC was not so despicable and hated it own viewers of the UK
Tolkien had issues with the Bakshi film though.
@@Dravianpn02 That’s part of the point - The way the article has been edited is inferring that Tolkien would be open to Amazons ‘changes’ when history proves he & Christopher were critical even of faithful adaptations.
I was highlighting the false narrative that the BBC are suggesting Tolkien would be open to the current changes when they them selves were very faithful to the text (with Christopher still critical).
@@Dravianpn02 The Bashki animation run out of cash so had to finish after helms deep. Bit of a mess in the end. Shame really - watched it so many times when I was younger - have a big soft spot for it.
@@jimmyb79 I love it as well! And fire and ice and Wizards!
A LotR adaptation is one thing. An adaptation altered to "reflect what the world actually looks like" is another thing entirely.
*BTW Tolkien rigorously fought to stop editors for American publishers from changing "dwarves" to "dwarfs"
He's ok with it, eh? Did they Bill and Ted him to get that bullshit conclusion?
He did it once and never again after that. Certainly that means he "loved it".
So what if he did work on an adaption, doesn't mean he liked it, maybe he wanted to make sure they didn't screw it up!
Maybe the writers had the intention of staying true to his work, after all, this was at a time before the world lost its mind!
And why exactly does any of this automatically mean he'd agree with Amazon's effort!
What a nonsensical world we live in!
He worked with the BBC one time on a radio project and after that NEVER again. Sure he loved it 🤨
next it will be a audio recording of Tolkien saying he wishes he put more Transsexual Nigerian Hobbits in
Amazon keeps learning the hard way that you shouldn't meddle with someones life work that countless fans have fallen in love with. If you do said fans will act out in a most vituperative manner towards the disrespect of that authors legacy.
I was willing to do a lot of things in my business when it was a nascent one, versus what I learned hurt my brand as it grew.
The fact he later vociferously opposed a film adaptation suggests the radio adaptation may have been a very bad experience for him.
If Tom Shippey and Simon Tolkien were involved in this Amazon show, this SJW disaster wouldn't happened.
Sadly, Simon Tolkien wasn't there, and Shippey's fired.
We're doomed.
Do you meab Christopher Tolkien :)
Simon Tolkien was all for the modernising of it. After all he thought that Jacksons was too faithful
All these articles lately, really show that Amazon has indeed felt the sting of the Tolkien fandom, i don't care what they say, they are in a bit of a panic.
Breaking: BBC archivist discovers Tolkien's lost treatment for Galadriel: Warrior Princess of Harad, set to star Ethel Merman and Bill Cosby. "I totally wrote this and all kids should subscribe to Amazon Prime" found in Tolkien's handwriting on 1960s scripts, say Tolkien scholars.
Ye, he also mentions we should all have mine bitcoins in 2010, truly he saw into future
I'm almost certain Tolkien would not like Peter Jackson's adaptations despite them being largely faithful to the books and they think he would like their abomination? Their lack of self-awareness is hilarious... :D
Instead of realizing this is DOA and not wanted Amazon will spend millions more to still fail if the backlash is this bad you cannot change it redo the show or accept it will fail
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the only "changes" they're making is what folks considered the bottom of the barrel desecration and desperation.
Vitrupitive, hell yes. After 5 decades of reading Tolkein he can still school me on new words. Fuck, i love that guy.
The text in dark ink is in Tolkien's hand. The red crayon is that of some other person (presumably an editor for the radio production). Also, since Tolkien is here offering two alternative approaches to the editor, the editorial markings amount to nothing more than the editor selecting one offered alternative (the first) and rejecting the other. What this shows is that Tolkien was willing to reshape his own narrative (in terms of who provides what information) to suit the medium of radio. (It certainly does not show Tolkien being willing to add completely foreign elements to the narrative, even for radio; or to fundamentally misrepresent its themes and concerns.)
You are also I'm afraid grossly misinterpreting the words of the Bodleian archivist, who is in fact deeply respectful of Tolkien's works, _as_ Tolkien's works. She is most certainly _not_ espousing an "anything goes" attitude towards adaptations of Tolkien's work! (Unlike certain other Tolkien scholars.) She is, rather, noting that Tolkien was willing to work, and did work, _with_ would-be adaptors of his story, to suit the target medium while still preserving the story's essentials (and without unwarranted additions). Just search for the 2018 book/exhibit "Tolkien: Maker of Middle-earth" and the forthcoming memorial volume "The Great Tales Never End" in honor of Christopher Tolkien, both assembled by Catherine.
@@cfhostetter Thanks for this. Appreciate the learned insight.
They are reaching big time to come to this conclusion
You're so right. Anyone who knows a bit about Tolkien and his authorship knows that he did not like alterations and dramatisations at all. He was a linguist and built his mythology around his ever evolving work on the languages of Middle Earth. So much so that if he changed a word in one of those languages, that caused him to go back and rewrite parts of the story. This was a man who cared passionately about his creation and I think he deserves deep respect for his desicions. He was the creator. I think he would have been very, very upset and bitter about the way this production seems to have gone. It is so sad. 😔
Didn't they just call him a racist? and supposedly his opinions didn't matter? why does it matter now?
To be fair the Guardian wouldnt let a little thing like logical consistency stop them.
After reading The Lord of the Rings decades ago when I was in school, I believe I had a few insights of the writer's mind.
I must admit, Professor Tolkien's books are a hard read, and for that, I don't believe he will be happy for any changes because he had poured his will to a specific narrative. And that narrative made most of us, the fans, happy.
So when you make changes and then say he'd be glad for it... Sirs, you lie!
At this rate we could probably wrap Tolkien's remains with magnets and run a copper wire around his grave to generate infinite power.
Yeah, he hated it. We all know that. He wrote it down to prove it.
This is sad to see. The cultural vandalism is horrific
It should be considered a crime. The first ones to be held accountable would be the Tolkien Estate. They sold the rights to Amazon! Amazon is a soulless company who hate western Culture. It's invested by anti-white degenerate Marxists who have no self value but that which the system describes them to be.
Reworking a screen and add new characters, changing whole characters, changing the story itself are different things.
I wouldn't poison my chips with that rag.
Good news I got a new copy of The Hobbit hard cover with illustrations and The Children of Hurin, The Fall of Gondolin and Beren and Luthien on sale, also hard cover. Soooooo Happy.
"One doesn't edit Tolkien." (Tom Shippey, LOTR box set.)
The RADIO mentioned in this article "conveniently" discovered, is entirely different to Movie (or Television). In the '65 interview Tolkien himself stated that he never wanted to see a visual adaptation of his works because "it would change the mental image he had of his own creation", and this is why he didn't want it made. From this perspective, I can understand his issue- but from our perspective as fans, we're glad it's been done in LOTR. As for alterations- Tolkien fought often with publishers about editing (understandable as a Professor of English!) As stated by Tom Shippey.
The BBC may have dusted this off from 1956 as evidence, but Tolkien's own interview of 1965 and his opinions trump that- so nice try BBC-shills, but it's a no-goal lol.
I hope they have cars and airplanes in the series. It would reflect our world, and there's way too much walking in Tolkien's original.
I love how they flipflop. The Tolkien scholar starts with “Tolkien's” Opinion wouldn't matter, that obviously caused back lash and now its “Tolkien's” opinion would have been positive. If you recall he sent a nasty letter to a fan about how Disney's aim for profit off of snow white and not staying true to the story was sad. This is an interpretation, stories of the modern era took scary fairytales and made them palatable for children. If I may paraphrase Tolkien. I think he would find rings of power “Too disnified.”
Very teacher, crossing's student homework which was a trash in the beginning. 🤣🤣
you can't judge the Guardian whilst simultaneously reading the daily mail 😂😂
The guardian is a typical publication the bbc would buy, liberal and totally woke.
Ill bet though these "adaptations" stick pretty close to his actual books and was not stuffed full of identity politics.
It even says there directly in the text that he dissaproved of the reduction from 45 minutes to 30 minutes. Talk about Trojan Source.
By their logic, Tolkien would have *loved* Peter Jackson's adaptation, too....
Why not? It was one of the best adaptations out there
@@ExtremeMan10 bEcAuSe ThEy ChAnGeD tHe LoReE
"Tolkien totally loves the show, but if he didn't, it doesn't matter and he's a bigot".
''We adore Tolkien, the Lord the the Rings and the Hobbit, but Tolkien is a orientalist racist and all his fans are bigots and racists too. All his works need to be redone.''
EVERY SINGLE PERSON. You know they never wanted to do this with clear good intentions! I believe in a special form of karma for these wicked creatures.
Tolkien would've hated the Jackson films, let alone this
Not sure about that, at least the trilogy was about the Tolkien World, not some box ticking "adaptation"
Brandon Sanderson fought hard to try and change all the crap in the wheel of woke, but more often than not rafe didn't listen to him. I understand exactly what you mean - he can make all the suggestions in the world, but ultimately, the showrunner can do whatever they like. Gosh, I hate this crap!!
Lol. The gymnastics are impressive.
I have enjoyed your take on many of the Amazon series issues, but I went and read the article and also looked up the upcoming publication and I don't think this has any subtle or overt points to make about the Amazon series, other than a brief mention that it is coming. While I am concerned about what Amazon is doing (and how they attack the fan base), I try not to be cynical about everything mildly related.
The Guardian article is only talking about how in the early days of his publication he was willing to work closely to get an adaptation he was happy with, even referencing how he changed his mind about Frodo delivering dialogue and instead had the narrator deliver the description; more an acknowledgement of how a book and a script are very different. Adaptation is inevitable and necessary, but what Amazon appear to be doing is "ignoring" and attacking anyone who isn't giddy with excitement. When Stuart Lee mentions how 70 years later it would be treated as a "sacred text" I think he is referring to the discovered scripts being treated with reverence in comparison to how the BBC at the time just stuffed them away in a dark box, never knowing how important they would become.
In defence of the academics, a multi-author publication of collected works can take years to get published due to peer review processes, rewrites, missed deadlines etc. so this will have been in the pipe line for a long time. Contributing authors have to agree not to share their chapter before, and usually for a certain time after, publication. The likelihood here is that they have been permitted to share about this find partly to promote the book itself.
The book is also dedicated to the memory of Christopher Tolkien, with contributions and the permission of the Tolkien Estate, and of the contributors one is Tom Shippey, who we all know was fired from the Amazon series.
Anyway, that's my take. Keep up the good work :)
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Is that the same as the 1970s radio 4 produced version with Ian Holmes Robert Stephenson and Michael horden which was my first introduction to the lord of the rings that script wasn't lost the whole lot is on you tube
They show a page all crossed in red and where Tolkien "screams" at the writer to "PLEASE TYPE" and show that has him agreeing with what was being done! XD
If he thought they ruined snow white the first time hes lucky hes not around to see round 2...
They are just awful, and i hope it at best only get one season then it will be left to die
My major pet peeve about Amazon and people who support these race swaps of characters is that they assume that a person such as myself with ZERO Anglo blood can't enjoy an epic fantasy like LOTRs without seeing people such as myself on the screen or book descriptions. How dare they, how racist,.... well they do it because they can since they control the media.
There is a really strange NPR version of Lord of the rings from a long time ago circling around the internet I wonder if this had anything to do with it. NPR liked the broadcast a lot of foreign radio shows.
So... they're attempting to throw our own argument back at us now? Remember the letter Tolkien wrote to Forrest J. Ackerman regarding his attempted film adaptation of LoTR. Tolkien hated it... but also understood the need for change and even went so far as to make his own suggestions on the topic. So... Yes, The Guardian we know he was alright with change. Just as long as it didn't butcher his story or the characters.
If only The Guardian had people who could research these things the way you do....
To be fair the Guardian has never let a little thing like facts get in the way of a narrative.
Tolkien working to adapt his trilogy to radio is completely different from amazon adapting the trilogy into a TV show. Tolkien willing to "balance" the narrative and rewrite some dialogue seems to be because of the medium of radio and I highly doubt he or the director of the radio show were making any adaptations akin to Amazon's motives.
As others have said "well, Tolkien didn't say there couldn't be flying icecream trucks in middle earth so let's put those in." The amount of "double think" being deployed here is absolutely mind boggling.
well hell if they found lost scripts there maybe they should look for the lost Doctor Who episodes there too
The way the BBC talk about the archives they could have the lost city of Atlantis down there and I dont think theyd have any idea. You'd think it would be meticulously catalogged and stored.
Apparently not.
@@disparutoo and letting it be open to the public to grb whatever the hell they want...... is a silly place
When they do an adaptation of an African legend, I expect the same amount of representation. I expect the hero, the main tribe chief, to be redheaded white woman.
Yeah and we all born yesterday
Someone needs to nail a board reading 'FALSE EQUIVALENCE' to these buffoon's doors.
1:10 Well Technically Amazon can change or do whatever they want with the material IF THEY BOUGHT IT. However that doesn't mean as consumers we have to consume whatever bullshit they deign to serve us. Amazon can push and try as they might to convince us to watch and even call us, the consumers names but it doesn't mean we have to rise to the bait. That's the difference. As for the whole writers VS adaptation I want to say there is a debate but I'm not sure that is the proper word. I am a writer myself though I do not as of yet have one of my books published. The world of publishing is about as bad as Hollywood and the entertainment world in general. It's very dog eat dog and thankless. However I do have friends that are published novelist. The ones I know would argue that the director should be given some autonomy when it comes to brining a work to life.
At that point it does become their vision as much as it is yours (the writer). That being said the same writer who say that are also very careful about who they decide to sell their IP too because they don't want to see their work turned into something unrecognizable from what they created. There are horror stories regarding that. The writers I know happen to be non white and they have seen their characters changed from either being non white/ethnic to being drastically watered down from what they were intended to be much to their chagrin. So there has to be some leeway for the producer/director to create but they should still honor the work they are adapting.
Also Tolkein was very critical of those who did try to adapt his work. I'm not trying to plug this channel but Midnights Edge did a spectacular video about this that included the WOT. You should check it out.
If he was fine with adaptations shitting on his life work. Where are all these adaptations? Sounds like they all got canned to me.
around 50 journalists, 27 days, 37 twits and comments to every single person in the community and yet no single answer from amazon... where is Celeborn?
Hard Pass and I’m planning on cancelling service when this flaming bag of poop is plopped on my doorstep.
Riiiiiiiight...apparently we all look stupid enough to buy into this propaganda to these people.
_Hey, look you guys! We found some old rough drafts & lost sketches of the Sistine Chapel! Despite the years spent by Michelangelo in his life's artwork, we know he would be fine with any changes we want to make in order to better reflect our more diverse, more inclusive, more representative modern world!_
The BBC's weak & illogical argument in a nutshell.
crazy............
Should we bet on what crap they will fling at the wall next or would that be giving them ideas?
Actually as a Fan have cancelled my Prime subscription due to the bollocks now going down over at Amazon.
There is a vast difference between what was in 1950 called a Radio Play and a visual series intended to go on for years. Of course. without a visual element, virtually everything is dialogue, which is not true of the books, so naturally adjustments had to be made. But except for considerations of running time that would requite some cutting or condensing, nothing essential needs to be changed for film.
And yet Jackson's original trilogy was and still is viciously savaged for doing ANY cutting or condensing. Far too many Tolkien fans were and still are insistent that only a literal page-to-film translation is acceptable, which is simply not a possibility in any way, shape, or form. No matter who made a live-action *LotR* adaptation, changes and cuts were inevitable just because of the translation from prose to film. That's a very different animal than what Amazon is doing here.
So he worked with them to help "abridge the text and adjust the balance of dialogue and narration" - that's the kind of stuff you do to make something shorter *without* changing it. He was probably just trying to make sure they didn't cut anything too important or invent some stupid shit to cover up a hole they made.
Jeff Bezos: Rings of Power!
J.R.R. Tolkien: You young ass, this is tripe.
Going to use that term to describe people now whenever they decide to be loud and obnoxious
can't agree more with this video, LOTR Rings of Power is nothing more than woke fanfiction
This cannot be even called third or ninth level of hell fanfiction because its actually Hatefiction as in something created entirely out of bad faith and pure rabid hatred from the get go as the so called "Superfans" videos alone confirm.
Soon amazon will claim that they spoke with tolkien directly beyond the grave (spirit), saying that the author agrees on their woke adapdation and what they are doing is canon.. 😂
The Guardian: The Science Fiction/Fantasy has 'changed!'
We are lucky that the BBC didn't tippex over these scripts and reuse the paper. I'd love to have a nosey at them.
Waiting for an Amazon-sponsored medium to come forward claiming they have contacted the spirit of Tolkien and that he’s given the series his blessing. And I couldn’t agree more about Wikipedia.
I wonder how long it takes for someone to demand a remake to make right Spielberg's narrow-minded and non-inclusive vision on Schindler's List. I wager, very few would jump on the chance to take a prominent, representative role in the nazi party or among the unfortunate souls sent to the final camps. Yet, if we think about it, twisting the recordings of history is easy in comparison to an author's fiction. Whereas history is always an interpretation of the one making the recording or re-telling the events, already missing nuances and possibly even important parts of the said events, the author's fiction is an undeniable fact; a result of the writer's conscious decisions.
Who would be happy with anyone defecating on their life's work? Pretty twisted.
Where did they get this draftlike page, from Tolkien's estate? Sellouts.
Tolkien wasn't even pleased with some of the early translations of The Lord of the Rings. Max Schuchart, who translated the books in Dutch in 1956-57 called it 'In de Ban van de Ring', a loose translation in English is 'Under the Spell of the Ring'. I originally read the books in Dutch and now that I've read them a few times in English, it's clear that Schuchart took a lot of liberties with the names. Apparently Tolkien wrote to Schuchart about the changes, but couldn't convince him to change them to be closer to the original. Changing the names is a usual thing in Dutch translations, but those names often start to sound silly.
I think i remember that i have read somewhere that Tolkien offered help for the Translation to all germanic languages (Swedish,Dutch, Danish etc) but all except for Margarete Carroux (the german translator) refused the offer. I think in the original German version their is also a preverb from Tolkien (translated into german of course) in which he adresses the advantages of the german languages over the english one in regards to inventing words and explains why he proposed the use of the word "Elben" (which doesn't really exist in german but sounds familiar to Alben, Elf-like creators of german folklore) instead of the Word "Elfen" (which means Elves in german).
So long Story short ...when i'm reading your comment i'm happy that the original German Translation is so damn close to the original Version, thanks to the help of Tolkien himself.
What is Amazon going to chance, exacly, of they don't have the rights of the story they are writing? Rather, they are creating an original series that happens to use some characters from TLOTR movies, that's all
My brother let me borrow his car once, so obviously that means I can now take it whenever and wherever I like, without asking. That’s logic that is.
Shortening the text is not the same as altering and inventing different text.
So adjust the balance of dialogue and narration= black elves?
That sucks that the fifties ones were destroyed but the '80s ones are still alive and well thank God.
Christopher Even hated the Peter Jackson films