Sir Roger Scruton: Professing Right Ideas for 50 Years. Discussing Beauty, Academia & Conservatism.
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- A week after the President of Poland appointed him a Knight Grand Cross of the Polish Order of Merit in recognition of his work behind the Iron Curtain, writer and philospher Sir Roger Scruton is this week's guest on "So What You're Saying Is."
In his 50 years of involvement in conservative thought, Sir Roger has written over forty books on politics, aesthetics and philosophy.
The pair discuss politics, conservatism and of course the now infamous interview with the New Statesman magazine.
Noting the 30th anniversary of free elections in Poland, Sir Roger draws a parallel between the stifling of thought behind the Iron Curtain, and the manner in which academics holding unpopular views are today denounced and condemned in modern academia.
Examining the Tory leadership campaign to replace Theresa May as Prime Minister, Scruton speculates on what it says about the general state of modern conservatism. Modern conservatives, he argues, have lost confidence -- running scared of the Left, for fear of being convicted by them of "thought crimes".
In a wide-ranging discussion, Sir Roger discusses his childhood and early life as the son of an old Labour loyalist, and how he discovered conservatism in the midst of the 1968 turmoil in Paris.
Sir Roger also discusses in detail, how he felt about the New Statesman article by George Eaton whereby he lost his Government appointment on the Building Beautiful commission. Scruton reveals whether he would have accepted reappointment had it been offered. He also divulges what the architectural establishment opinion of him and his views is.
Scruton on Beauty.
Sir Roger has much hope for the future believing that the Culture of Repudiation that turned its backs on the glories of western civilisation is now itself at risk of repudiation.
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This kind of intelligent long-form conversation is much better than watching the television these days.
Edward Talbot The amount of friends, family and work colleagues who spend there time watching Married at First Sight or some talent bullshit show is depressing.
This is amazing content. We truly are seeing the dumbing down of society.
This man of outstanding intellect and courage has been recognised by Poland yet treated abhorrently by his own country.
Hungary also appreciates his modest (compared to Hungary) and fairly sober conservative takes.
Every nation needs a Sir Roger Scruton, a sane and clear voice in the wilderness of bad ideas that is willing to defend beauty, the sacred, the sublime, and the very things we ought to busy ourselves treasuring and conserving.
43:15 - “One must recognise that civilisations decline, that we can lose things and never get them back as our ancestors did in the dark ages, but there were those self-sacrificing monks who kept the lamp burning, and it did come back.”
A philosopher who really does love wisdom!
What the Conservative party did to Roger was a disgrace. Gutless cowards. Thank you Douglas Murray for standing up for him and exposing the lies. It should be illegal to publish such dishonest hit pieces on people as that crappy activist did. He should at least be sacked.
Paul Steer and at most, hung, drawn and quartered! 😂
Here here
Conservative parties around the West have failed us. Many are conservative in name only. They should have fought back hard against the rise of cultural Marxism but they appeased them at every turn & now the young are indoctrinated. We are in big trouble.
I’m proud Poland: a conservative nation awarded Roger with an order of merit.
One of the few people that deserves to be a "SIR".
Douglas Murray did a brave and much needed standing up against the hyenas of the press.... and it meant a lot to Sir Roger. It meant a lot to all of us who support Roger Scruton.Thank you Douglas!
How reassuring it is to listen to this conversation, Roger Scruton is so relevant for us in this world of madness, chaos and spineless public figures. I know he visits my home country Hungary fairly often and understands the political situation very well because he understands our history and culture much much better than any so-called political commentators etc....
This was beautiful!
KatiForTruth
Really well said ❤️
Yes Douglas is the man brave, articulate and intelligent I love him and Sir Roger
Douglas Murray & Roger Scruton are national treasures. They should have statues erected in their honour. I'm not joking either.
RIP Sir Roger,
Your wisdom and courage shall be missed. God Speed.
Thank God for Roger Scruton. May he continue strong for many years. I hope his children continue in his footsteps.
And now we're bereft ...
Nothing but the utmost respect for Roger. Watching him speak reminds me of the integrity we used to have.
And what a wealth of knowledge Europeans have discovered and aquired since the Renaissance without socialist ideas and drawing upon Christianity for inspiration.
The difference between Sir Roger Scruton and the average person is that he has an amazing faculty for true critical thought. Note the way he talks about his father and his Labour affiliations. No malice, no spite or sideswipes, just great objectivity. Impressive man.
Sir Roger in charge of the British education system! Just a dream!
@Mark Kenny Dream ticket!
With David Starkey in charge of the history curriculum.
Absolutely - if only.....
There isn't a British education system. We have devolution. The English education system, presided over by the UK Parliament, preaches Englishness bad, ethnic minorities and the Scots and Welsh great; the Scottish education system is still quite PC, but preaches, Scottishness great, Englishness bad, ethnic minorities (apart from the English in Scotland) great. Not sure what they're doing in Wales or Northern Ireland.
Yes Peter, and helped by Melanie Phillips
"Awakening against the woke"
Great quote.
I'm a young person greatly inspired by Scruton. I'm a civil engineer but eventually want to start a construction company specialising in traditional architecture. I speak to my friends and even the wokest are switched on and engage by the idea of recovering a sense of home and connection that traditional architecture has and our modern sterilised culture does not.
That's great. You have the rest of your career to build beautiful. A meaningful life indeed
@@perperson199 cheers mate!
undoing the abominations of postwar town planning is a helluva mission statement, i wish you every success.
Have you ever come across the beautiful buildings/ churches designed by Hungarian architect Imre Makovecz? Unfortunately he has passed away a few years ago now but he is definitely amongst the best of architects in my opinion......
Best of luck with your endeavours Patty B.
I wrote a polite letter to my MP (Julian Smith, Cons) about the Roger Scruton sacking. He responded 'I found the recent comments by Sir Roger Scruton deeply offensve and completely unacceptable.and I believe it was the right decision for him to be dismissed ...'; followed by some cut-and-paste waffle. Sums up why I've abandoned the Cons and am now a Brexit Party or UKIP voter.
@Neal Murfitt *Shudder*
Yes, I did the same with my MP, a Tory. Because I know him slightly, he wrote back and said he'd raise the matter with Brokenshire. Of course, he never will.
I joined the Tories last year as I could see there would be a leadership contest and I wanted to vote. I'll very likely resign from it on 31 October when nothing much happens.
@@myla6135 Well you did what you could Myla. At least your letter was polite; I was actually pretty taken aback when I got mine - a Conservative MP 'offended' by perhaps the greatest living British conservative philosopher.
@Neal Murfitt Commiserations about your MP (and living in Brent). ;)
@john hansberry And be 'offended' by perhaps the greatest living British conservative philosopher; who kind of encapsulates the Enlightenment tradition of both Burke and J S Mill.
We are baring witness to the comprehensive unlearning of an entire generation which will have devastating consequences for years to come.
Ian Paling you are right and many of the very people who benefitted from a robust and rounded traditional education with excellent teachers have, through their own narcissism and vacuous idealism, sold future generations out on the myth of progressive, (so called) egalitarian, educational fads, resulting in a race to the bottom.
They need to read more books
Ian, bearing witness, not baring witness. But yes, you're right.
@@grobson4 - Such a ghastly, rudimentary spelling error is yet another indicator of the way things are going, unfortunately.
I love the way Roger casually says "well, as an intellectual..".. there are not many people who can say that without seeming pretentious, but for Roger it doesn't even need to be qualified..
Roger is humble & the epitome of an intelligent, educated & dignified English gent. Love him to bits.
Sir Roger's modesty in regard to the work he carried out in Eastern Europe shows him to be the great man he is.
He's WRITTEN 50 books!! Half the planks i argue with online these days havent READ 50 books, swear to god!
Reading books isn't necessarily a sign of moral standing or indeed intelligence. Morality, sincerity, decency can be taught without books, the opposite of those can be as easily taught by reading books. "Just saying"
@@stevel9914 Yes "Reading books isn't necessarily a sign of moral standing or indeed intelligence." It is however a sign of knowledge and history. I would suggest "Morality, sincerity, decency" are powerful traits that can be twisted by the lack of knowledge and history.
I am one of those planks
The problem is the notion that because you are well read .. that you must therefore be decent (it is insinuated) is erroneous. You can read all sorts of books and have your mind manipulated. Reading is becoming an outdated method of learning in any case. Your mind can be manipulated as easily through opera as watching Coronation St... or indeed, reading the same extremis of material in physical book form. I strongly suspect that the human mind has been manipulated with false knowledge since the dawn of time. The concerning situation currently is that we (humans) now believe that we conquered this by refuting (for example - the bible) as fiction compared to new found beliefs. It is this naivety that , as a consequence of our learning, that the world has been honest and sincere in all its teachings (particularly of our 5 year olds - where they are most malleable - I offer transgender education as an example) that has become most dangerous.
The practice of reading is good because it trains your brain in multiple different ways but yes, in regards to what you read that can be junk and fill your mind with nonsense. It is also slow, if it wasn't for youtube and being exposed to so many different viewpoints I'd still be a depressed leftie with unreal ideas about how the world or people work. I now know how little I know about the world and that any action even an assumedly good action should be taken with extreme caution and slowly so the unforeseen consequences of said action can be understood and adjusted for. If anything youtube has helped guide me to what I should be reading.
Roger Scrutton talking about how things were in Poland in the days of communism sounds so close to where we are in the UK now! The police are now arresting people for wrongthink here.
Yes Its very scary.
I would love to spend an afternoon with like minded people just listening to Roger share his thoughts. Men of Roger's caliber are few and far between.
When you hear about Roger Scruton's forays behind the Iron Curtain in his youth, it puts George Eaton's pathetic pretensions to social justice activism into perspective.
Sir Roger - such a pleasure.. and privilege.. This is a great show in general - very intersting!
Thank you gentlemen. There are still thosands of Conservatives, who share Sir Roger's views. However, the Party they supported or still support, has changed in so many ways. Ruined by politica correctness and fear of upsetting Islam. Sir Roger speaks for thousands of the conservative dispossessed.
A worthy Sir at last.
I TAKE MY HAT OFF TO YOU SIR ROGER - MY WIFE'S FAMILY ARE POLISH AND I HAVE BEEN TRAVELLING TO POLAND WITH MY WIFE SINCE 1990!
RIP Roger Scruton. How we need your wisdom...
Enlightening listening to this man.Thank you Mr.Scruton.
Peter, thanks so much for your discernment in the selection of your guests. Fantastic. Great channel!!!
Thank you for this thoughtful conversation.
Hi Peter. It's not difficult. The reason you've had a million views is because you get interesting guests on an you are bloody good at interviewing them!!! Keep up the good work fella.
Absolutely...THIS is what the Beeb used to be before it was run by the living dead...
A brilliant and inspiring man.
This channel is brilliant. Needs more subs. Share fellas
For so long I have felt lost and at odds with the ideas of so many people who share this country with me. New Culture Forum is thankfully showing me that I am not alone, and this latest video with Sir Roger Scruton has made me feel more clear about what I see as right and wrong. Thank you.
excellently put..my thoughts exactly!
Thank you so much...Sir Roger,.....Brilliant, inciteful, and a real Gentleman...
RIP Sir Roger. A very great man.
Fantastic interview. Sir Roger is spot-on with regards the current state of universities.
Logged on to see The Scrutonator in my feed. You're just showing off, now, Peter. :)
I want to be as wise as Sir Roger. Move to the left Attenborough, Sir Roger Scruton is rightly our national treasure.
Could listen to Sir Roger whole day long! Thanks for the great interview
Congratulations @New Culture Forum for breaking 1 million views, you guys thoroughly deserve it. Your show is a much-needed font of sanity in today's wearisome world of deranged leftists and social justice insanity, and Peter is an absolutely superb and very likeable host.
Thank you Brown Fox, for those words of support
Excellent that you got Sir Rog on....next get Theodore Dalrymple!!
Thinkers of the New Left is one of the most interesting books I've ever read. About time I reread it.
The best advocate of true conservative ideas, Sir Roger Scruton I salute you.
This is such a great channel its views should be 10x that
The most positive ending to a conservative interview ever. It takes someone as wise, and as old, as RS to make such observations.
The strong positive point about the scandalous sacking of Sir Roger Scruton is the great publicity it has accorded him. He has become known on social networks by people who might not have otherwise been aware of him and thus has been adopted by a larger circle of like-minded, conservative thinkers and sympathisers.
Agree. Embarrassingly, i only recently found Sir Roger, which now gives me LOTS of reading !
I think he could gain even more support with more YT presence - i'm sure he has great stories.
There are some very capable interviewers now on YT in what seems to be a maturing format.
A very brave man with principles, thankfully we have Sir Roger to speak the truth about contemporary society. Speaking the truth today is very dangerous. Too many folk want ugliness and go with the flow, whereas we must defend values in our contemporary world.
As with many of us you do believe that you are alone and wondering if you are crazy but now we know all to well nothing could be further from the truth.
The Tory party has become too PC too eager to privatise which ends up costing us more and has bizarre foreign policy, Sir Roger is my kind of Conservative Conserving the good not needed in the horrible Tory party any more.
Great interview. I don't understand why this channel hasn't more subscribers. I tell everyone I know about it.
I can't work it out either. Should be getting 100s of 1000s. Have a look at 'Triggernometry',which has some great guests.
Great show and Legendary Guest!
Thank You.
I hate it when architectural intentions get subverted even in modern times.
A lovely rippling water feature with rocks in the Queensland art gallery has been messed with by a tacky walkover and in a tropical regional town a similar water feature surrounding a theatre was filled in with cement.
Strangely, unlike the NSW gallery overlooking the harbour the Brisbane gallery affords no glimpse of the river beside which it rests.
Thanks Sir Roger for defending beauty which is always more functional than the opposite.
How long before we do all 'get together and do something about this'? - I for one am beginning to lose the will to live. What a great channel this is.
Thank you for giving me a bit of hope and comfort in these depressing times.
UK Education system is controlled by the state, even at university level, they say teach this or you won't get the funding - the state has been gradually pushing out real education in favour of vacuous rubbish and, in many subjects at secondary school level, has almost totally succeeded - the state realises how dangerous it is to have genuinely educated people and does its utmost to stop the whole process, often in the name of political correctness.
@Peter Rumsby true, also add tuition fees into the equation and it helps to foment this culture of denunciation that Professor Scrution talks about - because they are paying for it they feel they have rights to have their views mirrored and expanded, not challeneged
The channel "Acadamy of Ideas" has a vid "Why Public Schools and the Mainstream Media Dumb Us Down". Apparently, the factory style of state education, which has been adopted by the west, has its roots in 17th century Prussia. Which explains a lot!
Very well said. I’m shocked and angered so few seem to acknowledge this and call it out. It’s well beyond the tipping point and I don’t believe wholesale reform of the existing system is possible. How could alternative institutions of teaching and learning be funded?
Look up John Taylor Gatto. New York city and state school teacher of the year multiple times, famously resign in a NYT op-ed. He’s written a number of books on how the American educational system is destructive to learning.
Devolution. The UK Parliament is now misnamed. Scotland largely does its own thing education-wise, and Wales and Northern Ireland have also diverged.
Very informative, interesting and enjoyable.
I can listen to Sir Roger for hours on his recollections. How very sad that he was viciously attacked and hounded out of his position by a complete no body and the social media lynch mobs.
Without even a whimper from the Conservative government, just goes to show the conservatives are but a name only and have lost their way completely in traditional values and defending one of their own. Thank goodness Douglas Murray, Sir Rogers friend, got a copy of the transcript recording and the truth as always came out. What wicked people fall under the guise of journalism!
Thank you, Sir. You are a good interviewer. You know when to pause.
Thank you Roger for enlightening me so much
Roger Scrutton, Philosopher, Scholar, Knight, Spy, and all round Good Egg..
Your channel is wonderful. I thank you so much for your great work. Please keep it up.
Well if the standard of interview stays the same success will continue.
The morale of this interview is that right minded people should never speak to MSM or read their nonsense. Let them die of neglect.
It never ceases to amaze me that people complain about imperfect sound or extraneous noises picked up during recording. You are getting this conversation for free. Seemingly the more you provide for people the more the expect. An intelligent and inquiring mind focuses in on the conversation and can easily block out interferences just as you would if listening to a speech live at a public event.
Much respect, for Sir Roger. If he could see what is is happening now, 18 months later.
Great interview. Let's hope for a more intelligent future.
i loved this video and guest, much thanks.
To the new PM and Tory leader (Boris?) - your first job is to re-instate this gentleman and to give him an apology for the cowardly treatment by your predecessor.
Weren’t we fortunate to have Sir Roger in our lives. This my nth time of listening to this interview. Thank you Peter.
Born to become wise - not born a genius.
Genius can't save us now - only wisdom can show us the way. The genius lives a harsh life. Hopefully Scruton will show future generations that wisdom is a habit - and a habit to be admired.Being wise gives you greater happiness.
Your best guest yet - you've already hit your peak! haha
Then Sir Roger should be invited on again and again
Is that profile picture actually you?
@@alan-muscat of course not. It's surely a male
@@perperson199 I agree.
I notice that his mere presence causes the left wing to be sawn off at about 21 minutes and 21 seconds. Yes, even the sound effects are fabulous when Mr. Scruton speaks since all noise in the air is transformed by the sound of truth.
Fascinating man! Really enjoyed this conversation.
I have deep concerns that we in the Conservative party are swinging more left, Sir Roger shines a light here. Woke and the fear of not daring to mention traditional Conservative values seem rife. Mrs May has been poor for the Conservatives and the country, lets hope the next PM puts us back on track fearlessly.
The So Called Conservative party has been economically Liberal/Libertarian since Thatcher.
It’s now culturally left since Cameron.
Great stuff. Many thanks. I wish I could afford to attend his workshops!
44:10 - “One should never forget that one’s greatest friend in this life is death.”
What a beautiful mind.
A brilliant man, may he rest in peace.
Budapest has this beauty Sir Roger Scruton is speaking of.
Excellent, thank you. How about Douglas Murray, Melanie Phillips or Peter Hitchens?
Great channel, greetings from Poland
Brilliant guests!!
re: art school. I went to one of Canada's more "reputable" fine art / design universities, and what Scruton says here is very accurate. I was lucky to have a great experience in that I went in a bit older than the children that were there, and went in without the obsession of social status that most of the student body had. Those of us, both students and faculty, that were focused on the kind of artistic values Scruton speaks fo, ultimately found each other, and we all produced actual WORK together, while the splashers really didn't produce anything at all. There's hope. Duchamp's joke is finally getting old.
The conservative movement has failed. It has failed to conserve any pride in our culture or understanding of the causes of disparity in our relevant circumstance. The conservatives have failed to conserve even their own brand of politics. The party is embarrassed of its own position, cannot win PC debates because they are an arena detached from reason and reality. I heard a conservative say the other day the party was a Broadchurch? Accept on every major issue from Gay marriage, the justification of marxist feminism, so called LGBT rights, women's sovereignty over abortion, welfare programmes, social mobility, denial of demographic significance and immigration. The most disparity between the two parties is a difference of a couple of % in tax rates. Islamophobia? We ought not to give in to the poisonous language, why would any conservative that wants to conserve anything good fail to oppose the Islamisation of the nation, a foreign ideology?
Most individual conservatives recognise the desperate need to resist this hostile influence but as a party, the PC rules make it impossible for any large body to stray from the acceptable parameters of discourse as defined by Marxist students, to comply with their own deranged, philosophically inconsistent, intersectional ideology and perceptions of equality, at odds with freedom, logic or reality. The conservative party should be correct, not politically correct. It should be just, not socially just.
Do they acknowledge their core tenant to conserve? Should we not take the word literally? As the labour parties mask has now slipped revealing their true marxist nature, shining through past their obligation to the working class, who they have abandoned and betrayed for the socially 'disenfranchised'. Should the conservatives have a more defined core message? Borris said fuck business with relation to Brexit, honouring the more nodal pursuit of nationalism over the free markets that a beginning to represent some of our biggest threats. The left is now nothing more than a anti white cult. The right must come to stand, and be proud to stand for the collective white interest. Individualism is void in the climate of identity politics we inhabit, it is like claiming you are not fighting while you are getting beaten by a gang.
Cultural Marxism and political correctness create a cultural environment with strict perimeters, defining the acceptable ranges of social opinions. The media, the propaganda arm of the establishment are closer to the corridors of power than the public, excusing them not holding them to account and failing in any obligation to be impartial. They are a dogmatic, self serving, self congratulating, middle class elite, absurdly ignorant of their own unfounded prejudice's, resulting in an unquestionable and unaccountable church of marxism. The whole structure needs to be demolished their is no use continuing a game, heavily rigged against us.
“ABOVE ALL WAR BRINGS IT HOME TO THE INDIVIDUAL THAT HE IS NOT ALTOGETHER AN INDIVIDUAL. IT IS ONLY BECAUSE THEY ARE AWARE OF THIS MEN WILL DIE ON THE FIELD OF BATTLE”
They have no conception of anything which is why it is so dangerous to hand power to emotionally unstable and driven people who have not and NEVER will earn the right to wield such power!
Thank you Sir Roger, your film on beauty ,made mee realise what was wrong in the UK after I had spent 10 yrs in Italy. Now Italy has ugly parts in the cities ,but there is always something of beauty to see nearby.The environment reflects the contents of our minds therefore it seems we have to endure a period of suffering.It will end one day and humans will have evolved because of their suffering.
I am sad that we have to be woken in this way but we did create it,we have no wisdom .The denunciation letters are appearing everywhere, it has begun...
one of my favorite channels,
My favourite channel
Thank you Peter
I admire Sir Roger's optimism at the end, I only wish I could share it. Thank you Peter for another excellent interview.
I would argue that the "omni-present eye" observing us exists today in western "liberal" democracies - and that it also sees much more than it ever did in the USSR.
Great choice to mark your 1,000,000 views!
That he can go through all that and finish with a positive outlook really shows the depth of Roger Scruton's resolve. That the UK has people such as this and does not on the whole value them is embarrassing. Like Peter, I perked up a bit myself after that conclusion.
Shame on you conservative party and bbc, not just your loss but ours too, thanks a bunch. No cultural worth of any substance then they come out with soundbite slogans like 'Norther Powerhouse' and throw away billions on HS2 which is hardly going to stop anywhere when it is up and running.
It is difficult to separate the current conservative party from neu labor. It is more like a continuation of some tedious set narrative that makes soap operas seem interesting. Tune in next week folks when we'll go over all the same old guff again just stick a different date stamp on it. Rinse, repeat, rinse.
Nil desperandum, I shall seek out 'On Beauty' as my own personal contribution to 'the positive'. If it is half as good a listen as this it will be worth it. Thank you once again for another great interview, New Culture Forum Channel.
Just to add that I am very sorry but I did not realise Sir Roger Scruton had passed away. Why Beauty Matters is an interesting watch and listen. I am going to reserve a little judgement for now because basically I am not convinced that there is no beauty in modern art but on the whole I am in general agreement that it does not seem to focus on beauty.
The architecture side of that documentary is the lesser half but also quite interesting. I think it is much harder to make a building look 'beautiful' than it is a painting or for that matter pass building materials, a pile of bricks for example, off as art.
That particular section reminded me of a Scottish comedy: That Sinking Feeling by Bill Forsyth.
Good talk, thanks Peter.
Rest in Peace Roger! Dear old chap.
I recognise everything Roger says having been to a leading art college in London in the 90’s. No one seemed capable of discussing or thinking about art unless it was in convoluted unintelligible ways. Most students were spoon fed Derrida and Lacan without any grounding in alternative art history or theory. Asking to be actually taught technique was like farting in your tutors face. I watched talented figurative artists being discouraged from their reactionary dabbling. I went my own way and found some real ideas in Plato,Tolstoy or Freud. Having studied at postgraduate level I found similar fossilised Marxist dogma. My worst experience was attending seminars about culture and education in Israel/Palestine. A very difficult thing to study but presented in such a way that assumed an automatic biase. Any fair minded concern for the Israelis position was seen as pro-Zionist. I agree that humanities students now seem poorly read and unquestioning, tragic.
The 'Letter of Denunciation' is alive and well in British Universities. I speak with authority in this matter because I have just been purged from my job at Manchester Metropolitan University by just such a letter.
My crime? Publicly supported the view of the Home Secretary with regard to Miss Begum and her nationality.
It was not the students who denounced me (they were happy to debate the matter), but the staff to whom free speech was and is an anathema.
Three members of staff stated that I was in breach of the Equality and Diversity Policy and Dignity at Work policy of the university.
After being tried by an in-house Kangaroo court I was summarily dismissed without pay. Or, to put it another way, expressing a view which was in accord with that of Sajid Javid was the equivalent of hitting another member of staff or a student.
Just give that some thought.
Purge is the word. What a shambles and what has created such an atmosphere.
So expressing Englishness is punishable while Irish, Scottish, Welsh or French patriotism is good ?
Last time i visited Manchester was 1990 - quite good back then.
Last month somebody wrote that Manchester was being lost to spiv developpers,
but i guess the malaise runs much deeper.
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Pete don't miss a beat... Great interview, Peter.
“Undigested venom towards the culture they should long to be part of” a.k.a. resentment. The victim mentality has many hidden psychological payoffs mixed in. add in the groupthink that reinforces your victim beliefs and you are truly screwed. The number one pay off from the victim mentality is you don’t have to take responsibility for your life because all your problems are caused by external forces.
"putting your ego on display" is that the current world we live in - if so then does it not then not equal beauty