🌙 Pokemon Theory: Lunala and the Eclipse Duo | Gnoggin | Pokemon Alchemy
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- čas přidán 23. 09. 2017
- Lulana has some mysterious origins in Alchemy and Astrology. Let's go over them on our quest of covering all of Pokemon Alchemy.
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Gnoggin is where gamers and geeks use their heads. Discovering the science behind various aspects of games. Developing one video game theory after another. We focus more on games like Pokemon, Mario, Zelda, (pretty much Nintendo) but we also go through other games from time to time as well! Even comic books and a film theory from time to time. From Minecraft to Halo, lets explore the psychology of many characters, the anatomy of mythical races, and the technology of fantasy worlds. Click that Subscribe and Bell button to get your bi-weekly dose of brain exercise for nerds. - Hry
I used to be into Pokémon for the games and the shows. Now I'm in it for the theories.
Gatling93 Welcome to the league Trainer. That's pretty much how we roll. Like Pokémon hipsters. Pokétubers are basically our gods, right up there with Arceus and the Great Helix Fossil, praise be unto thee
While we are at the topic of gods.
That shape of light in the background of the official ultra sun/moon website that is overseeing Solgaleo/Lunala totally looks like Arceus from the front. (In fact I'm going to eat a broom if this isn't Arceus or some kind of Arceus-/godlike-form)
Maybe US/UM will really give us a story about Arceus or someone trying to acquire his powers.
Those Necrozma coloured eyes on the "Arceus face" definitely make it look ominous.
Gatling93
I thought that I was really into the Pokemon games and the tv shows until now because I'm also into the theories now too jus like how you are dude and I jus love ❤️ all of the Pokemon Theories and so you are not the only one who is really into this and so am I dude
Why not all three?
I'm really surprised you didn't mention the fact that the marriage of Solgaleo and Lunala produces a new Cosmog.
I'm glad he didn't. It pains me to hear him say "cos-ME-og"
UmbreonInvaderz You mean Cosmoem? The middle evolved form? He never says cosmeog, he says Cosmoem.
LilRachelK What are you talking about?
CuttingEdges Forgot reply tag
TWO SUNS/MOONS?
Full Poke Alchemist!
J H Full Steel type Alchemists
Man I love that anime. Great backstory, rad story line, satisfying ending. Perfect
I'm surprised with your mentions of 'celestial sex' you didn't mention that Cosmog are born when a Solgaleo ond Lunala come together.
Jack Ferring
We couldn't see what they did... But I guess we all know.
Solgaleo: and that my child, is how I met your mother.
It all comes together
They get kinky
I have a theory, Necrozma is a black hole. Necro means corpse, and like Kyurem it acts like a zombie seeking energy and other life forms to fill its emptiness. In Kyurem's case it kidnapped children and pokemon to consume until it could gain one of the 1/2 of it's soul back (reshiram or zekrom) or both, and is basically a zombie, a shell of the original One dragon's body when all 3 were One being (another theory, does it surpass Arceus the God?). Necrozma is the same, 1st piece of evidence is the symbol on its back which looks like the North Star. 2nd is that it's body looks like a telescope and in astronomy there are 3 types of telescopes, 1 refracts and absorbs light (like the astronomy definition for prism, absorbing and refracting light (Necrozma the prism pokemon, prismatic laser it's signature move absorbs light to fire it back)), another telescope reflects light (like the moon), and the 3rd emits light (like the sun). Finally the 3rd, what is a dead star called... either a supernova if a star explodes, or it collapses and creates a blackhole.... a thing that captures and traps light, and what does it do to Solgaleo and Lunala, it captures them and fuses with them taking their life energy and absorbing light.
Blaze12ification
Guzzlord is the Black Hole, Necrozma is just a Prism.
But still, kindda good theory.
I'd agree because Guzzlord consumes basically everything, but it can't consume light like Necrozma can, and doesn't prism mean to refract light, and isn't refracting light absorbing and redirecting it, and in US and UM the new forms aren't Necrozma redirecting the light but instead taking it within itself to make it stronger and give it life, similar to how Kyurem is a zombie that lost it's souls and is trying to get them back, but in the mean time preys on children and other pokemon to sustain its form, Necrozma does the same thing, it is seeking energy in the form of light, and what gives off the most light in the universe, the sun, stars, and the moon with its ability to reflect light. Plus a black hole is a dead star, if it is trying to take in light to give it energy it could be because it is dying or already dead but wishes to become alive again, and I know I keep comparing it to Kyurem even though they are entirely different and that US and Um are trying not to be like other sequel games but one cannot ignore how similar they are as well, but like Kyurem it wishes to obtain it's original form or at least something close so that it can feel alive again, and as far as we know even though it is dark typing Guzzlord is not dead and like the other beasts is more representative of the 7 deadly sins (which is kind of thrown out of the way considering there are at least 3 more UBs, however if his one theory about the clown thing is Pennywise, then one of the other 2 could be something else, while the last is the 8th deadly sin which is usually thrown under the rug, despair or depression). One last thing I forgot to mention, as I also said Necrozma is representative of a star, most prominantly being the North Star with its shape, and if it is dead and like Kyurem a dead star is a black hole or it goes into a supernova if it doesn't collapse on itself but instead expands.
We need a pokemon game with an alchemical pokecult. Make it happen Gamefreak!
If not, we've got insurgence, so it's chill
Arguably team flare or team galactic
Gamewiz I totally forgot about Insurgence!
theokchannel Team Flare is more preoccupied with allowing only the wealthy to survive, so they wouldn't fit the alchemical cult persona. Team Galactic comes close though.
Mark Welch Well with the Japanese poster art, the villains look like an Iron Man/ Team Galactic hybrid, so its possible
"Theory" "Alchemy" "Eclipse" "Lunala" Oh No...
A Person With a Name more like *T*heorie *A*lchemy *L*unala *E*clipse
IT ALL COMES TOGETHER
You boi... you on SS1014s discord?
You've met with a terrible fate, haven't you?
And the Pokémon dialga and palklia where seen together with Pokémon’s birthday coming 😰😰😰
*YOU TAKE THE MOON AND YOU TAKE THE SUN*
Horricule *YOU TAKE EVERYTHING THAT SEEMS LIKE FUN!*
Super Kamehameha! *YOU STIR IT ALL UP AND WHEN YOUR DONE*
Reverse Dipper Pines *RADDA RADDA RADDA RADDA RADDA RADDA*
*SO COME ON IN! FEEL FREE TO DO SOME CATCHING! STAY A WHILE CAUSE LOCKSTIN'S ALWAYS GUESSING!*
man my dick is hard
He has a serious alchemy obsession
I hope gen 8 doesn't involve anything that can be related to alchemy
Sushi God sure he does
Sushi God it's a interesting subject
Sushi God yes he does I'm like 😒😏 really lol
Soon he'll miss an arm and a leg
When Gnoggin uses an Emoji in the title
Gavin Visco Cancer for everybody
At least it isn’t a stupid face
Gavin Visco I just realized that...
+Gavin Visco, at least he didn't use 🅱,😂, or 💯. That would have been a Problem.
Blasphemy!
Cant wait for this whole series to be over and i can watch the complete 5 hour version.
It's good to see you doing Pokéalchemy again!
Kaihatsu
Gotta love ❤️ Poke Alchemy right! I know that I love ❤️ Poke Alchemy
hey Gnoggin,
I totally agree with you on Giratina being the Gravity Pokemon instead of antimatter.
here's the thing...
look at the evolution family of Solgaleo and Lunala.
Nebula > Protostar
the matter in the nebula collects into a protostar with intense... gravity.
then it either ignites into a star/sun (Solgaleo)
or it cools into a planet/moon (Lunala)
both still defined by their... gravity.
without which neither of them would have any effect on earth.
also, the yellow trim around the Cosmog evolution family looks very similar to the yellow trim around Giratina.
both are known for their portals to other dimensions (wormholes, which require gravity power to create)
I think that just as Arceus created Giratina... Giratina created Cosmog(s).
and ya, Solgaleo & Lunala had something to do with the creation of Ho-Oh & Lugia.
What do you think?
What if... in response to Arceus punishing him... Giratina created Solgaleo and Lunala which when combined, have the power of God, Azoth... or in the pokemon universe, the power of Arceus
That would be so cool.
I really like this series, I hope it goes on for a while! Not to say I disliked the "The End" series, I loved that as well! But this shorter, more focused videos seem easier to understand and get into! It also appears to be a lot healthier to you, or maybe it's just me...
He did lose his sanity last time. Toby was basically his only real world connection to anchor him to reality
So is Necrozema or at least someone (like Team Galactic) trying to combine the forces of the Sun and Moon to face Arceus? Holy crap! That would be awesome!
Ryan Maloney just like in FMAB episode "He who would swallow God"
Necrozma will try to unseat Arceus.
Super Kamehameha! Pokemon x FMAB there is an Arceus lol
Lunala doesn't get enough attention compared to Solgaleo
I know right?
Its bullshit
Lunala looks fantastic
And is better at battles
metal trifusion It also has a much less generic ability than Solgaleo
I want the end of U S&M to be Arceus coming down and saying "BRO. STOP THAT. STOP IT OR I WILL ACTUALLY MURDER YOU."
7:15 How did that even get in there xDDD
Anyone else see the mouse pointer at 7:15?
Duelist Mudkip lol
Yes this series is my favorite
Fisheye Squarepants same
Yup same here, already have an obsession with FMA so this enhances my fascination with alchemy lol.... which beast did he say luggage was based on ?
Same bro
I think he said Lunala was based off Camazotz
Kingdom Hartea meant to say lugia..... he did mention a name but I couldn't really hear it properly
People are not "sensitive" today they have Knowledge. It's very different!
A rare shiny Trigglypuff!
I'ma catch it **throws ultra ball**
You can make a religion out of this
Yep
I bet there are some Gamefreak officials watching this being like: Wtf is this dude talking about
About Ho-Oh and Lugia, both represent the chinese phoenix and dragon, when there are together means wealth and luck in a happy marriage. They said the origin of it is from when two chiefs of rivals tribes, one having birds as totems while the other worship snake like creatures of the time, married together and created the countrie we know today.
Age of Pokemon II: Age of Alchemy.
Iron Revenant sad that I had to scroll down this far to see someone mention this amazing soundtrack being featured here.
I'm pretty sure Lunala is based off of a kind of Celtic medallion.
*See the title*
Me : *sigh* Here we go again...
Great work! I was looking for a video to summarize all this.
I can just imagine that during celestial sex in space you can just hear moans from both the sun and the moon! Lol!
I saw that mouse at 7:15. Don't think I didn't.
Also, another fascinating alchemy video. Loving them all!
Lunala does have a tiny bit more background towards its name and the moon symbol in Pokemon moon. This background is the ancient Egyptian Symbol for moon known as a lunula, lunulas come in many shapes and sizes but the lunula I stumbled upon to make this discovery was golden but shaped exactly like the Pokemon moon symbol. Suffice to say I know know why lunala is called lunala.
Necrozma new forms are also known as Solar Eclipse Mane Necrozma and Lunar eclipse wing's Necrozma form.
So..basically when a solar eclipse happens, the sun and moon gets a quickie in.
Eww
Nah that's just your mom.
If I recall correctly, Solgaleo and Lunala were originally ultra beasts, or descended from them or something. I'm under the impression that Ho-oh and Lugia might be the actual pokemon with power over the sun and moon.
I think that this is based on Greek mythology
Arceus is Chaos, dialga and palkia are Gaia, giratina is Ouranous as he was banished solgaleo is hemera and Lunala is Nyx. But that's just my theory
The alchemy stuff is still somewhat accurate in a lot of ways. The divine number stuff talking about gen 7 being the end is true. USUM are the last 3DS games and thus the end of the franchise that started way back on the Gameboy before ascending in a new form to the Switch. Gen 8 will be completely different from any other game in the series because of the Switch's capabilities and interaction between players. Gen 7 is truly the end of an era. Although, we could theoretically still get gen 4 remakes before the Switch also.
StarWandHeart Eh, you can't say they had it planned though. GF wasn't sure of the switch's potential until after it was out
StarWandHeart You are kinda right. Gen 4 had platinum, an improved version of diamond and pearl, then gen 2 remake were made. So, in theory, gamefreak could make a sinnoh remake.
Planned or not, the lore is so loosely written that it is always open for interpretation. And, yeah, the gen 4 remakes have every chance on being on the 3DS following the pattern of RSEFRLG, DPPHGSS, gen 5 didn't have any but we did get XYORAS. Gen 6 didn't have an enhanced version but ORAS is basically the enhanced version because of Zinnia and Mega Evolution. Hoenn should never have had it but the Infinity Energy changed the destinies of Groudon, Kyogre, and Rayquaza. This generation though, we could see the pattern of releases last seen in gen 4 and have SMUSUMDP, but in any case, the gen 4 remakes will come at some point, most likely on the Switch, and gen 8 is already hinted to be an "RPG" although Pokemon is an RPG, we should expect a more modern version of it as an open world, customisable experience. The Switch will make Pokemon less portable because of the battery life, unless Nintendo release battery packs to extend portable play, but the player interaction in Pokemon will be more focused on the PSS than ever before. How else would you get Pokemon like Golem, Alakazam, and Machamp? We'll have to wait and see what Game Freak comes up with, but I think it will be exciting to see and worth the wait.
i highly doubt there gonna move the main series over to the switch, them putitng one game on there is not an indication
the handheld systems are by far more popular and more people own them over the switch
UndertaleSkeleBros but you need to remember switch is also a handheld and i doubt nintendo will make another DS after 3ds ....and theres no way pokemon will stick to 3ds forever because 3ds is 2011 hardware....
I just realized that the gen two games fully make up the three aspects of Azoth. Gold, representing the Sun. Silver, representing the moon. And Crystal, representing the refining prism.
so.. the sun and moon have been getting it on in front of their child since Earth was conceived? :^)
I love these types of videos so much. Cannot WAIT for the Lugia Ho'oh one.
People don't understand why the forms of Necrozma look so similar to Solgaleo and Lunala. It actually makes perfect sense, as the sun and moon provide light...and prisms reflect light.
That opening music brings back tons of Age of Empires flashbacks.
With today's technology we can turn iron to gold... It just cost much more to do it, compared to the amount of gold that would be made. Lmao
Jo King Yeah we got modern day alchemy
Wouldn't it likely be radioactive, too?
Chaos89P Why would it be radioactive?
Poke Topichu Changing the atoms probably is a reason.
Poke Topichu Nuclear fusion can result in radioactive isotopes. Something to do with the ratio of protons to neutrons, I suspect. I despise saying this, but you can get more information by "looking it up." As a means to mitigate that issue I have with that what I call a lazy cop-out in the best of circumstances, I'll suggest you look up "using nuclear fusion to make gold." So far, what I've gotten by "looking it up" amounts to what both Jo King and I have said: that it's not cost effective in the slightest, and the gold may end up being radioactive and won't stay gold for too long.
Next day:
PIMPNITE: FULL POKEMON ALCHEMY TEAM
I got so hyped when I saw that you came back to this, I love this series, I hope you continue!
Now i cant whate for ultra sun and moon
Neither can I 'whate'
and the journey continues, I loved your original theory, I'd love to see what other secrets are hiding in the new versions
I rewatched your sun and moon theory and I still find it fascinating
So happy that this series is back
I absolutely love these Pokalchemy videos!!! Keep up the good work dude!
I loved Lunala purely for the Ghost type, but now I also love it for the link to Cancer, which is my sign. Learned a ton from this video, man, you're single handedly getting the new legendaries to grow on me all the more.
Lockstin: *names a bunch of common things cancers would like, as they’re creative*
Me, a cancer: *likes very few of those things(minus baking), but LOVES to write, as that’s the easiest way for me to get my creativity out*
Gasp, finally, another Cancerian
Nice work on the lighting.
Is the music from age of empires?
It is. AoE 2
Yep!!
These bits of lore and inspiration are the most interesting things about the Pokémon franchise. Keep making these videos ^.^
I love your videos! I always feel like I learn something and I happen to love to learn! Keep making awesome content man!
I love your theory videos, especially the ones where you go off the rails a little. XD
You are killing it dude
I love all these videos! Keep up the awesome videos Lockstin!
I'm really digging this series, can't wait for the next episode of this.
6:25 That would also explain that one episode in Sun & Moon the anime, of when Ash first meets Cosmog/Nebby. The scene has Solgaleo and Lunala join, and in the flash of light, Nebby emerges.
I genuinely learned some material from this video. Thanks for the lesson! :D
I'm pretty sure that Solgaleo and Lunala had an "eclipse" when they created that Cosmog from nothing.
you had me at the age of empires 2 music
I always felt that lunala's name and design was based of the lunula an ancient irish necklace that was designed like a cresent moon and followed both lunar and solar calenders for the neolithic Irish. It's not astrology or alchemy based but I thought it was interesting enough.
good stuff man :)
You should make a video telling all the legends in order and what they do would be very interesting
Can't wait to see more of this series!! :D
Have to say I love this pokeAlchemy series! In general I love this channel wish I could support it more because it's so much fun to listen to on my way to work. . .
Had to drive an hour one way :L
Thank you Gnoggin for making these videos and helping to make the Pokemon-world even cooler ^^
I'd like to see you do a video trying to decide who is the strongest character in the fire emblem franchise lore wise and also decided which human, Dragon, Laguz and another races I may have missed.
Funny how we got silver and gold again right? Game freak watches!
4:14 Lockstin is gonna steal souls with that Seal or Orichalcos
Ayy glad to see this return
Well this theory is AMAZING. Going back and looking through some articles and my own observations from the pokedex I'm seeing a lot of these alchemical symbols including Lumiose city and pokemon go as well.... So thanks Gnoggin cause I'm wide awake now XD
You have been challenged by Poke Alchemist Lockstin and Poke Alchemist Noggin!
This is so fricking cool man!
To show my support, I naught a tshirt from ya! Keep up the great videos!!
Please do more Pokemon Alchemy theories
I'm surprised you didn't mention the blue light in Lunala as its life source
Me at 1:30 in the morning looking at the title:
...
"Why is there a banana in my Pokemon?" while eating some microwave chicken fried rice
7:16 Magical Mouse Cursor
Biblically speaking Adam had a wife before Eve. Her name was Lilith. She was made of the same stuff that Adam was made of. They were made equally. God told Lilith to bow down and be subservient to Adam. She said ef that and got kicked out of the Garden. So when God made Eve he made her from one of Adam's ribs so Eve would be apart of him and also less then him. Since Eve wasn't made from the same earth as Adam was, but is basically a product of Adam. It's also believed that Lilith took the form of the snake that told Eve to eat the apple. And that Lilith is the mother of homosexuals and free thinking women.
That's a Jewish legend actually, not cannon
EagleZtoTheGrave cannon you want to talk about cannon in the Bible. That's pretty funny.
@@EagleZtoTheGrave welp.. i allways liked the jewish versions more anyway ^^"
Goodness, I love these! You're awesome Lockstin!
3:03 me when the crab is sus
7:16
*a wild cursor appears!*
+Gnoggin.. you may now call thy self as the Full Poke-Alchemist!!
Side note: as a super nerd of history and pokemon, I got orgasms when Necrozma was announced.. THIS IS LITERALLY WHAT ME AND MY CLASSMATES HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT!! GAME FREAK HAD PLANNED THIS WHOLE FIASCO SINCE GEN 2!!
Remember the FMAB dwarf in the flask? We agreed that it could be the basis for necrozma.. remember, the DITF was already like that for a really really long time, origins unknown.. He murdered a million Xerxenians just to gain a philosopher's stone (a living, breathing philosopher's stone).. maybe he'll take control of Solgaleo and Lunala and gain their powers to.. maybe open a tightly closed portal that only Arceus can open (Praise be unto Him).
And just like in the episode of FMAB "He who would swallow God".. necrozma may challenge Arceus or something just to get the portal open..
In the new trailer, we were introduced to the 2 new UB's.. they could be "Father" and "Hoenheim" (I forgot their names.. but you get where I'm going for right??.... more FMAB stuffs!!)
there could be an ultra climatic event! Lucifer vs GOD... Arceus vs Necrozma.. the Ultimate Battle that would decide the fate of reality itself!!
And might just lead to the "Grand Reset of the Pokéverse" as stated to his previous pokeTheory....
The theory still stands.. we haven't played ultra sun and ultra moon yet..
But this is just a theory!
Lockstin: describes cancers
Me: *nevous sweats as I'm a cancer and he's on point*
PLease do more pokealchemy theories, I absolutely love them
cant wait to watch more!
"Whereas Dialga, Palkia, and Giritina are just the individual forces holding the Universe together. Pfft."
Wait! So does that mean those the are the Demiurge? Samael, Ariel, and Yaldabaoth?
Lockstin, I love this stuff. Keep up the good work. Cheers!
Lockstin and alchemy is like Jessie and James
Do more Pokemon videos
Shawn McMillan who are you
And how are you everywhere!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
Venos Keether
You are saying his username and that's who he is and you don't have to say who are you to him because how would you like it if someone said who are you to you and you should choose your words more carefully ok 👌🏽
Shawn McMillan
You can't jus tell someone that you want them to do something without using your own manners because saying your manners speaks for themselves and you should use your manners more
you are really indulged in your research which is really cool
This is a great series
Lunala's full moon form when using it's signature attack also looks like a dream catcher, which is a ntive american item heavily associated with the spiritual realm.
8:03 Also "Project Azoth" from ORAS, which involves Infinity Energy (as Primal Reversion?)
7:15 dat mouse doe
Can we get a playlist of the Pokealchemy series? I’d binge it repeatedly
I love your PokeAlchemy videos keep up the work Lockstin
This is my favorite series on youtube!