So… is the new Exotic Rocket Launcher Good?

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  • čas přidán 5. 09. 2024

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  • @FalloutPlays
    @FalloutPlays  Před 9 měsíci +22

    Please like today's video if you enjoyed the conent/info/edits - anything!
    and here's me reacting to S23 trailer --> czcams.com/video/uP1eHb2xA3Q/video.html

    • @KevinBrevin
      @KevinBrevin Před 9 měsíci +1

      3:35 it is because the ignitions aren't always coming from you and the damage is stolen by your teammates.

    • @WatchYourSix51
      @WatchYourSix51 Před 9 měsíci

      D Breath lol. Could this be a double meaning.

    • @big_gucci_scorpio328
      @big_gucci_scorpio328 Před 9 měsíci +2

      My guy i dont want to shit on you rn but you missed the point of this weapon entirely, when you get the catalyst (there's already video's of this in action) the weapon auto reloads, in about the time auto loading holster takes to proc, plus it has the exact same audio queue as ALH, there's already vids of ppl using this like an auto loading anarchy and tbh its far better then anarchy ever was in this final form, this weapon is already being considered for a lot of people's future dps rotations given that it can take out caiatl in just over 2 bells with the right swap combo, think double slug or rapid fire snipers to swap to while this weapon builds up in the background

    • @dedhandbandit
      @dedhandbandit Před 9 měsíci

      Strange to hear "New exotic from destiny 1."
      Yet another old weapon that "Will not come back, we have new exotics to be excited for." Still waiting on those "New" exotics though lol

    • @soulfulmisfit8127
      @soulfulmisfit8127 Před 9 měsíci

      Just a fyi given the artifact mod of apply scorch while radiant this launches becomes dumb powerful

  • @erikm8373
    @erikm8373 Před 9 měsíci +902

    I think you miss out on the true potential of this weapon by spamming it by itself. Its strength is that it sticks to enemies, and that it autoloads on getting full fuel, which it gets by the ignitions it causes while stuck on the enemy. Dump it on someone, and while it's igniting and building up full fuel for an autoload, you start doing special weapon DPS. The DPS rotation should be similar to Anarchy, with double slugs or a good fusion rifle supplementing.

    • @VRGUILE
      @VRGUILE Před 9 měsíci +80

      Exactly. This is a far more optimal way of using it. I've used mine with a b+s supremacy and the combo shreds.

    • @lastchance1829
      @lastchance1829 Před 9 měsíci +8

      Exactly what i was thinking

    • @razorkatt2922
      @razorkatt2922 Před 9 měsíci +2

      Lucky Pants maybe???

    • @catos34
      @catos34 Před 9 měsíci +16

      @@razorkatt2922 not really, its probably just better to pair it with fusion rifles + super exotic (celestial nighthawk)

    • @lukeharper3102
      @lukeharper3102 Před 9 měsíci +9

      True, I like to shoot it then use all solar abilities, and solar guns
      I just want to set woorrlldd on firreeee

  • @JayWaltz
    @JayWaltz Před 9 měsíci +598

    this thing shreds in solo content. it’s like a solar anarchy

    • @gl1tch634
      @gl1tch634 Před 9 měsíci +18

      I love it

    • @spetmember8799
      @spetmember8799 Před 9 měsíci +55

      If it does in fact work like a solar anarchy and we learn it's ins and outs it could be very viable for weapon swap rotations

    • @firewarrior2822
      @firewarrior2822 Před 9 měsíci +66

      @@spetmember8799 There's a couple of tests I've seen already with fusions, the thing puts out DAMAGE if you use it as a swap weapon. It's not meant to spam like he's doing in the video

    • @spetmember8799
      @spetmember8799 Před 9 měsíci +8

      @@firewarrior2822 cool, I love swap combos. Makes damage interesting

    • @zacharysmith8148
      @zacharysmith8148 Před 9 měsíci

      DOPE

  • @TheUnlucky777
    @TheUnlucky777 Před 9 měsíci +200

    I feel like you can shoot a x5 rocket, hit them with a special weapon while it auto loads and repeat. I don't know if it'll change the dps much but it may be worth a shot.

    • @IsaacSurf735
      @IsaacSurf735 Před 9 měsíci +57

      Dawn chorus makes it proc two ignitions before it explodes meaning you can do this

    • @TheUnlucky777
      @TheUnlucky777 Před 9 měsíci +29

      @isaacellis7970 as a Warlock main this information makes me happy.

    • @VRGUILE
      @VRGUILE Před 9 měsíci +17

      It makes a huge difference. Damage stacking different weapons together is how meta loadouts like witherhoard + rocket or double slug + anarchy work.

    • @golddagger1276
      @golddagger1276 Před 9 měsíci +12

      ⁠​⁠@@IsaacSurf735dawn chorus does not increase scorch stacks only scorch damage. It’s ember of ashes that is causing it too do two ignitions, but it gets even better if you throw on ember of char and ember of eruption as a bonus.

    • @ianthewizard7924
      @ianthewizard7924 Před 9 měsíci +3

      Did a last wish run earlier today, it shreds, kalli and shuro chi didn’t stand a chance

  • @potato1341
    @potato1341 Před 9 měsíci +189

    I think it's worth noting: Scorch stacks are unified by the target they're affecting, NOT by the player who inflicts them. That goes for ignitions too. And funnily enough whatever caused the initial scorch will be the weapon/ability to which the scorch is attributed i.e hunter knife trick being the 1st thing to start a new scorch stack followed by dragon's breath will count as a melee-oriented ignition and trigger a hunter melee effect if the ignition kills, even if dragon's breath tipped the scorch over the edge. Now, what this means is due to the fact that 3 people are using scorch, only 1 of you are getting the scorch damage and only 1 of you are getting the ignition damage. Plus since there's no over-stacking scorch, it caps at 100, and doing so still gives you the same ignition whether or not you would realistically hit 100 or 1000 scorch, they all do the same damage with the same source. All this scorch sharing will eat into your individual and overall damage numbers, which is why in a 3-stack, you did less damage, since you had about the same amount of scorch downtime due to the ignition animation + few frames of scorch immunity enemies have after.

    • @Avoncarstien
      @Avoncarstien Před 9 měsíci +4

      makes this season *unbelievably* annoying trying to use Sunbracers because if you snap something that's been incidentally scorched by someone radiant with the right artifact mod and you don't get the ignition ^_^
      First scorch applied sets the mode of the debuff.

    • @meekumanu
      @meekumanu Před 9 měsíci

      Don't use it with Sunbracers then >_>@@Avoncarstien

    • @potato1341
      @potato1341 Před 9 měsíci +3

      @@Avoncarstien Yep. It's very useful for certain things, such as the new Ophidia Spathe buff, ignitions can get melee's 2x damage boost. I used it mainly for assassin's cowl, assassin's cowl with knife trick + secondary scorch method i.e Tommy's matchbook gives you HP and invis when the ignite kills. Does get annoying when multiple scorch users are competing to get their own effect though.

  • @roundraccoon6141
    @roundraccoon6141 Před 9 měsíci +74

    Weapons that spam ignitions do not stack well across fire team members that is the reason why it doesn't pair well with fire teams I think

  • @sylokthedefiled7650
    @sylokthedefiled7650 Před 9 měsíci +44

    I think youre using this one sub optimally.
    Its meant to be shot once, then you're going to use a special DPS weapon (preferably sugge matched) until it goes away, then fire another rocket.

    • @SSD_Penumbra
      @SSD_Penumbra Před 9 měsíci +2

      Nah, it melts (hah) with an Ignite build. I use it on my titan and I literally get x5 immediately with all the ignitions I'm getting.

  • @friendlyelites
    @friendlyelites Před 9 měsíci +86

    Just use it like Anarchy, stick it to the boss and it'll ignite them twice and auto reload itself. While that's happening do DPS with Supremacy or Eremite and swap back.

  • @captainhaze1374
    @captainhaze1374 Před 9 měsíci +11

    its better than given credit for here. its built for dps rotations, hitting max stacks faster when attached to an enemy because it will cause them to ignite, letting u spam other stuff between auto-loads

  • @PineappleZach666
    @PineappleZach666 Před 9 měsíci +10

    To me it seems like a weapon to pair with another weapon. Like perhaps wardens law and lucky pants. Shoot dragons breath. Switch to warden's law. use up lucky pants damage bonus. Shoot Dragons breath that is probably at full. Use somethhing like cartesian for a few shots. Repeat. Could do insane total damage and dps.

  • @pch1370
    @pch1370 Před 9 měsíci +21

    I'm enjoying the specialized exotics they have been making lately, they are not a top weapon on its own, the task is up to you to make it work to its fullest potential. It's far more entertaining than equipping the one with the highest dps and calling it a day.

    • @talia_al_gabagool
      @talia_al_gabagool Před 9 měsíci +3

      Agree. The weapons team really testing all these unique weapons not just for DPS but for different styles of play

  • @jadenyuki2031
    @jadenyuki2031 Před 9 měsíci +13

    Dragon's breath+the upcoming warlock super(radiance) could be pretty insane.

  • @alecbrotzer1495
    @alecbrotzer1495 Před 9 měsíci +14

    Completely rearranged my solar build around this thing since ahamkarah spine got nerfed. Also I love that this thing growls when u pull it out and view it in invintory

    • @user-lf7or2pu8z
      @user-lf7or2pu8z Před 9 měsíci +1

      It's engine revs even when it is stowed when it hits full fuel, really satisfying. honestly even if it isn't a top tier pick. I still like the rework of one of my favorite D1 weapons. CANT WAIT FOR SOLAR RED DEATH

    • @magewareinc
      @magewareinc Před 9 měsíci

      Caliban hand + Dragon has made Coil a whole lotta fun, particularly in the boss fights.

  • @thegymteachersgrandma
    @thegymteachersgrandma Před 9 měsíci +2

    Imo absolutely wrong use here.
    It's as some mentioned a solar anarchy, you do not use anarchy as your main damage option.
    As a rando, my idea would be:
    Apotheosis veil (now gives infinit grenades after super for 5-6 seconds)
    Place well -> throw grenades -> shoot rocket -> dmg via solar fusion -> DB
    Rinse and repeat. Dawn chorus could be interesting too

  • @SteelShad0w_
    @SteelShad0w_ Před 9 měsíci +1

    This thing works like Witherhoard, Izan, Anarchy, etc. its damage comes from being a swap weapon cause it does a ton of DoT while you shoot with something else

  • @sunofabob
    @sunofabob Před 9 měsíci +5

    It can stun unstoppable champs. The rocket sticks to the champ then pours enough scorch to cause the ignition which causes the stun. So it has hidden unstoppable even though it isn't intrinsic.

    • @BREAKocean
      @BREAKocean Před 9 měsíci

      Intrinsically not Intrinsic

    • @Ashen_Night116
      @Ashen_Night116 Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@BREAKocean They mean literally the same thing. One is an adjective while one is adverb, the adjective "Intrinsic" is correct, because it is describing a trait, and not being an modification to a verb.

    • @BREAKocean
      @BREAKocean Před 9 měsíci

      @@Ashen_Night116 I was joking bro lol

    • @Ashen_Night116
      @Ashen_Night116 Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@BREAKocean A joke has to be funny in order for it to be a joke.

    • @bernadettavarley
      @bernadettavarley Před 9 měsíci +2

      @@Ashen_Night116 This post made me laugh more than the joke

  • @psycoNaughtplaysMCPC
    @psycoNaughtplaysMCPC Před 9 měsíci +5

    It certainly feels like if you rock a scorch build, a solid kinetic DPS legendary, and someone on div it will do BIG DPS. In its current state it's for sure not a write-off I love the playstyle it brings, it's almost like a harder hitting version of Whither Hoard+Gjallarhorn buff rockets build in terms of feel, I want to know what it's like with the catalyst

  • @Marauders5
    @Marauders5 Před 9 měsíci +3

    Been using Dragon's Breath on my Warlock with Dawn Chorus Exotic Helmet & Daybreak. The super + DB + Fusion Grenades absolutely melts bosses and i had no problem doing The Coil with blueberries. Can recommend. I was planning on going Stasis this season, but i quickly changed my mind with this build.

  • @Decoy24098
    @Decoy24098 Před 9 měsíci +5

    The ornament for it is fire

  • @aa4a-a4
    @aa4a-a4 Před 9 měsíci

    Currently pairing it with the revamped apotheosis veil. Throw grenade -> well -> dragon's breath -> spam grenade -> rocket -> grenade -> fusion -> rocket. I havent done any proper testing yet or really optimized it, but it seems to output a ton of damage

  • @darthnater6204
    @darthnater6204 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The reason why is due to ignitions being like shatter damage they don’t stack

  • @ImReverseGiraffe
    @ImReverseGiraffe Před 9 měsíci +3

    I feel like this is going to be very, very strong against champs. Hit them first, and it can help control adds while you focus down the champ.

  • @dmark_
    @dmark_ Před 9 měsíci +7

    everyone thinks it trash but that's cool atleast it won't get nerfed 😎😎

  • @hissingfever8210
    @hissingfever8210 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Less overall damage is most likely due to the ignitions being shared, so you have the same amount of ignitions split across 3 players instead of just one. And because ignitions have a sort of windup the increased scorch doesnt quite offset it.

  • @Ahnock
    @Ahnock Před 9 měsíci

    i think the lowering of its dps with multiples is the same problem 1k has. it relies on ignitions for dps, which you can't stack, so all your dragons breaths are getting the boss up to one ignition every 100 scorches instead of three.

  • @AntiHeroJohn
    @AntiHeroJohn Před 9 měsíci +1

    I gave it a shot with a Pyrogale build for scorching and igniting and it works nicely there, numbers I didn't track too well but you can land both Consecration and the Pyrogale Gauntlet and spam the rockets on bosses that don't move too much and it'll always be up with the amount of ignitions, all the tick damage squeezes out just that smallest bit more.

  • @GreenGuyGeno
    @GreenGuyGeno Před 9 měsíci +2

    Have you considered using Dawn Chorus to double the scorch damage?

  • @felwinterpeak1674
    @felwinterpeak1674 Před 9 měsíci +1

    Hopefully when this gun is fully examined we can see how it works with other things.
    Dawn chorus w/ solar grenade or SB with the solar grenades raining down and dragons breath at once.

  • @dakotadonde2432
    @dakotadonde2432 Před 9 měsíci

    This weapon basically defibrillates the what starfire protocol use to be. Basically if you slap this rocket on and switch to another weapon while tossing fusion nades, while also having the fragment that gives grenade energy on ignitions you'll basically have grenade and rocket spam.

  • @chrisx9624
    @chrisx9624 Před 9 měsíci

    Pair it with a Sunbracers build, and it's an absolute MACHINE for soloing content. Two ignitions gets you to max fuel. Kill a trash ad, dump barfing suns around you, fire a DB rocket at the boss, then when you hear two ignitions, you can fire another rocket at max fuel.

  • @wolfmane5273
    @wolfmane5273 Před 9 měsíci

    I think DB will be a good sustain rocket launcher, because the passive scorch buildup on hit, it'll actually be better if you left it to charge full propellant, it'll auto reload and cause massive ignitions. so maybe dump a rapid fire frame sniper mag in the boss after firing, reload. swap back and go again?

  • @waitinginqueue
    @waitinginqueue Před 9 měsíci

    playing gambit last night by force, dragons breath showed to be a pretty decent invading weapon. i just sent a rocket at the boss’ feet and while everyone tried to get out of the scorch, i used ammit to pick them off. surprisingly useful

  • @paulcrisafi4415
    @paulcrisafi4415 Před 9 měsíci

    This season also has an artifact mod that gives additional scorch to your solar weapons while radiant.
    On all three classes, you have an easy access to ignitions with DB AND IT AUTOLOADS!

  • @starr815
    @starr815 Před 9 měsíci +1

    D breath works way better as a swap option. I just tested it and it will autoload when stowed and you don't need ashes to get the 2 ignitions from one rocket, but ashes did seem to proc the ignition faster.

  • @danielrubiano6824
    @danielrubiano6824 Před 9 měsíci

    On spanish, cause i cant express it on english words:
    Para sacarle el maximo partido, puedes tener de 2 formas:
    1. Te haces una build solar para hacer spam y cargar el lanzacohetes
    O
    2. Te haces con un compañero y se arman con solo builds solares, para maximo spam

  • @_Hayuri_
    @_Hayuri_ Před 9 měsíci

    Just a quick note, while playing around doing the first mission of the season, i got one of the missiles to hit for 298k on impact, i did not had any buff/surge/bubble or well at the moment, just the perk at x5 and thats it, it wasnt a visual bug cus it took a chunk out of the boss health bar, am still trying to replicate it, will update if i get it to work again. Sorry for any grammar errors i'm from brazil

  • @Eric-kt6kv
    @Eric-kt6kv Před 9 měsíci

    I'd assume the reason why multiple db's on the field dealing less damage is an effect similar to wither hoard, where the fire pool on the ground doesn't stack, similar to witherhoard

  • @BowPlayKay
    @BowPlayKay Před 9 měsíci +2

    Witherhoard was never just an "OK" weapon lol. It was god tier the moment you got it lol

  • @elileonhardt9024
    @elileonhardt9024 Před 9 měsíci +1

    it may be good for swapping with another weapons, also you did less damage with more Dragons Breaths because your team stole your ignitions.

  • @TheLegitAlpha
    @TheLegitAlpha Před 9 měsíci

    The fire trail from shooting also makes this good for mopping up a few ads in the way.

  • @perrycarters3113
    @perrycarters3113 Před 9 měsíci

    I'm wondering if you have one teammate laying into them with a bunch of scorch stuff-solar grenades, maybe Prometheus Lens, stuff like that-the extra ignitions will make it better.

  • @MastrKeef
    @MastrKeef Před 8 měsíci

    Ignitions are a Universal Cooldown, so it wont stack with other DB’s, the best way to use it in my opinion is Blade barrage, Well + Opathasis Veil, or sunbracers. Dragons breath is littsrally just a heavy version or Witherhoard

  • @_thejaeger01_36
    @_thejaeger01_36 Před 9 měsíci +1

    I can't believe the sheer number of people who keep forgetting that Dawn Chorus exists and boosts scorch damage... This thing is NUTS with DC.

  • @jamesrichardson9355
    @jamesrichardson9355 Před 9 měsíci

    You could also potentially get more outta it using warlock because of the exotic helmet that increases scorch damage and tick. Still gotta try it but it could be useful.

  • @zucchini2339
    @zucchini2339 Před 9 měsíci

    I’m having fun with it, I’m using a fusion with envious and reservoir burst and i just keep stacking ignitions, it’s truly a napalm machine

  • @artdog0100
    @artdog0100 Před 9 měsíci

    Fun Fact: Dragon's Breath also scorches everything under the path that the rocket is fired. Leaves a trail like a Thermite Grenade. 🔥🔥

  • @Adam-hs9ft
    @Adam-hs9ft Před 9 měsíci +1

    I use it with my solar hunter and its good, dps if u hit a fucker and decent area denial if u want to not get flanked by 52000 thrall or something

  • @seroquelsenpai
    @seroquelsenpai Před 9 měsíci

    I feel that the rocket DPS meta is gonna be Ghorn/DB/two Cold Comforts with Envious Assassin/that other stupid good perk on Cold Comfort*/Div/A void hunter with void rocket and Gyrfalkon's? The DB user would have to rely on a special weapon (cough cough i fucking love The Eremite cough cough) for DPS though but that could be really fun! Very hyped for this season

  • @user-bj7ki5dc7b
    @user-bj7ki5dc7b Před 9 měsíci

    Another thing to consider is the fact that DB is a good anti-champion exotic. Is baseline anti-unstoppable because Ingnition, in a solar 3.0 build is pretty trivial to gain radiant for anti-barrier and this season artifact gives anti-overload to rocket launchers , so it counter all of them. It could be very handy in content like GMs.

  • @ZimVader13
    @ZimVader13 Před 9 měsíci

    It's Jottun in the heavy slot, also nobody is using the dawn chorus with it but me and I'm deleting everything. Firebolt nade, dragon's breath, and solar warlock with that and u barely do anything but ability and rocket spam unless u want to conserve heavy

  • @vltq9507
    @vltq9507 Před 9 měsíci

    probs a reason why theres less dmg output with other dragons breath is due to ignition cant stack so multiple ignitions cant all happen at once

  • @bartok1378
    @bartok1378 Před 9 měsíci

    I feel like this could go very well with that infinite warlock snap melee build. Since snap already procs an ignition on it's own you could theoretically have the rocket reload itself and get up to 5 x stacks on a single snap. So you could rotate with snap and rocket firing and keep it going non stop. Maybe throw in a quick chill clip fusion rifle shot once per rotation and you could be doing some serious dps where chill clip procs once every 3 rotations to shatter the boss. Could potentially work with jolting the target too but not sure what would work best for that. I'm wondering if Phoenix Warlord makes a comback with this as there are sure to be lots of dots going off and potentially killing enemies as well for certain fights.

  • @absenteechild8542
    @absenteechild8542 Před 9 měsíci

    based on my testing, the best way to maximize its damage is for other people on your fireteam to use conditional finality, which is easy if everyone else is using legendary rockets. those ignitions fill your fuel gauge a ton. also just using it in a longer rotation increases its damage, as you're giving it more time to charge

  • @doggo7175
    @doggo7175 Před 9 měsíci

    Dragons Breath + Consecration
    1st ignition from dragons breath and second from consecration and because it scorches by default you get your melee back + grenade and throw in fusion

  • @razor7463
    @razor7463 Před 9 měsíci

    I'm wondering if it would be good to have one guy on the team shooting the boss with Tommy's matchbook to proc ignitions to give you faster fuel and rockets.

  • @brandendunagan8822
    @brandendunagan8822 Před 9 měsíci

    Fallout the reason why It does less for you is because ignitions do not stack and scorch stacks have a maximum build up speed meaning the reason you were doing less damage with multiple people is others were procing ignite and taking that damage away from you. Its the same reason why when people used a chill clip rocket only 1 could be used because 1 person (with gjally) could acheive the fastest build up of slow on there own and others could not contribute.
    It seems like this weapon is meant to be used like annarchy as a way to do dot damage while using special swapping to do dps. I have a feeling it will be a solo content only exotic as in a group if you are doing the double special and utility exotic, ghorn and tractor are currently way better picks.

  • @folktriggels3543
    @folktriggels3543 Před 9 měsíci

    You don't need to kill something with ignitions you just need to get a hit with an ignition, dragons breath is like a witherhoard for rocket launches you gotta swap it out

  • @ThatADHDKid
    @ThatADHDKid Před 9 měsíci

    I used it in the very first mission and I was pretty impressed how it locked down ads that were walking through the flames and getting scorched. It was like a solar witherhorde

  • @Silencers
    @Silencers Před 9 měsíci +1

    It can work really well with the cat and perma scorch build. Might not be a meta killer but I bet it's gonna be a fun rocket

  • @Victorioinator
    @Victorioinator Před 9 měsíci

    Bonk hammer and ikelos shotgun with incandescent is great with this for add clear

  • @rmeng3
    @rmeng3 Před 9 měsíci +4

    Really curious to see if this interacts with Dawn Chorus' enhanced scorch perk. Be really cool to get a strong of inviting going. The season Solar 2.0 came out, that was my favorite build. Igniting one champion which ignores the other champ which ignored the first champ again. So good 😂

    • @GumpierGoat2
      @GumpierGoat2 Před 9 měsíci +3

      It does, with X5 stacks and dawn chorus, it can ignite twice before exploding. Its great in solo content, but pretty meh in a group

    • @Voidova
      @Voidova Před 9 měsíci +2

      ​@@GumpierGoat2Dawn Chorus only increase the damage of Scorch, it doesn't add more stacks. Meaning that you'll get the same amount of ignitions with or without it.
      The extra scorch damage is massive though, 200% increase in PvE.
      Due to the increase in Scorch damage, Dawn Chorus is actually counterintuitive for an ignition build. Because the adds usually die from the scorch before you can apply enough stacks to get an ignition.

    • @GumpierGoat2
      @GumpierGoat2 Před 9 měsíci

      @Voidova either way, I saw bigger numbers after I put DC on with the dragon's breath, also, adds dying isn't a problem, this is a rocket launcher. You're never going to be able to use it ad clear without crazy reserves, I use a primary for that lol.

    • @Voidova
      @Voidova Před 9 měsíci

      @@GumpierGoat2 the higher damage is due to the increased scorch damage.
      I'm talking about general play. If you're running Dragon's Breath you're probbaly gonna want to try and get ignitions through other means to proc the perk. This includes an Incandescent primary which you would use anyway with Dawn Chorus.
      The point being that it'll be harder to get ignitions with Dawn to proc Dragon's perk in general play.

  • @awesomeface7777
    @awesomeface7777 Před 9 měsíci

    I think you overlooked this gun, it’s not a spam dps weapon but timing, in fact it’s great for 1 player to run it in a team for max dps and it’s more like Witherhoard, with sniper buffs this fun pairs perfectly with Supremacy,
    Deal insane damage with the rocket at x5, switch guns activate bait and switch on your sniper and dps with that, the second you hear the auto reload swap back and shoot another rocket, this is massively overlooked and it’s insane of an exotic, catalyst will definitely make it better and I think it’s a great exotic actually

  • @mikealgiers7852
    @mikealgiers7852 Před 9 měsíci

    I think it would be good on a boss bake if a nearby friendly fireteam member is using Conditional Finality for the near instant ignitions. Fire Dragon's Breath with 5 fuel, swap to something like an envious assassin/controlled burst eremite, wait a few seconds for the Conditional buddy to get an ignition, swap back to Dragon's and fire again with 5 fuel.

  • @KinderHades
    @KinderHades Před 9 měsíci

    Dragons breath seems to work like a solar grenade in that only one solar grenade can deal damage at time just like how witherhoard works.

  • @mroilman63
    @mroilman63 Před 9 měsíci

    Can you show us also how it interact with/without “ember of char” and “ember of ashes”

  • @Dragoninja35
    @Dragoninja35 Před 9 měsíci

    Was my very first Exotic weapon in D1 as a new guardian 😊 i like it's works very very well with my sunbracer build

  • @Lancell0tRs
    @Lancell0tRs Před 9 měsíci +2

    This would've worked so well with pre nerf YAS or starfire

  • @holyESSAYchaiT
    @holyESSAYchaiT Před 9 měsíci

    Maybe I'm stupid but this seems like it'd be REALLY good with Dawn Chorus. More damage on your scorch ticks, and ticks recharge your melee, which you can use to cause an ignition with the snap refilling your fuel and increasing damage on your next rocket even further

  • @Thatman420
    @Thatman420 Před 9 měsíci

    This gun fits super well with my calibans hand build especially with gunpowder gamble

  • @jankowalski-el1un
    @jankowalski-el1un Před 9 měsíci

    its also more efficient from up close, since fuel starts getting used up upon firing it and not on impact.

  • @Snowshill
    @Snowshill Před 9 měsíci +1

    ah wonderful the issue with sunspot grenades is also effecting this exotic got to love that bs, anyone wondering if you have a fireteam all using sunspots only the first one will actualy damage enemies corectly all others dont similar to vortex grenades and using the warlock gauntlet exotic also suffers this, guess that applies to this things fire effects what a wonderful bug they "fixed" -.-

  • @Notinmyattic
    @Notinmyattic Před 9 měsíci

    im honestly in love with it watching everything in a room explode is so fun lmao

  • @CallMeRise
    @CallMeRise Před 9 měsíci

    Sunsinger, dawn chorus, db, and an ignition based build. What I'm running in tfs. Been so hyped for this build since they announced this guns description

  • @tangodown7377
    @tangodown7377 Před 9 měsíci

    here's a fun way to use the new exotic on a solar warlock. if you use sunbracer's, hit a target with your powered melee (snap or celestial fire) then shoot a rocket to ignite them. since the ignition was initially melee scorch damage it would proc sunbracers effect.

  • @BarDeeZee
    @BarDeeZee Před 9 měsíci +3

    Is thorn catalyst dropping from the normal Playlist or is it just rng?

    • @santiklingo
      @santiklingo Před 9 měsíci +3

      it drops from any strike, nightfall, crucible or gambit match

    • @BarDeeZee
      @BarDeeZee Před 9 měsíci

      @@santiklingo Thank you

  • @Laziriuth
    @Laziriuth Před 9 měsíci

    My guess on the lower individual damage when using it in groups, is that the ignitions from the scorch of the rocket is being triggered by only one member of the fireteam, whereas when you're the only one using it, you'd be the only one triggering ignitions.

  • @athroughzdude
    @athroughzdude Před 9 měsíci

    The way I've seen this has been like Anarchy, where you launch a rocket into a boss then bust out a fusion or sniper.

  • @dh7367
    @dh7367 Před 9 měsíci

    Its damage is even better if you tactor or tether the enemy. It also pairs well if you have a teammate you can freeze the enemy its ignition and shatter combo works well together.

  • @Neviian
    @Neviian Před 9 měsíci

    The ignitions from DB do count as ability kills. Got the seasonal challenge for solar ability kills super fast when grinding DB kills

  • @duskyfox897
    @duskyfox897 Před 9 měsíci

    It staggers bosses so effectively because the ignitions are intrinsic Unstoppable stunners
    God damn that is so good

  • @agentcoedie7079
    @agentcoedie7079 Před 9 měsíci

    Hmm, what would be the best farm for the catalyst for activities since things have changed? Gambit, strikes, or crucible.

    • @theremnants6807
      @theremnants6807 Před 9 měsíci +1

      If you're good at pvp rumble is a good game mode to farm.

  • @viviciuszn
    @viviciuszn Před 9 měsíci

    Now, consider using it like Anarchy. Rocket > Fusion Rifle > Rocket > etc

  • @Alexander71827
    @Alexander71827 Před 9 měsíci +1

    The ignitions don’t stack so this is another witherhoard situation where it’s needed for 1 person. More than 1 is just bad

  • @Poopi_Culio
    @Poopi_Culio Před 9 měsíci

    It was doing pretty good in Blind Well when paired with Caliban's hand.
    Also it might be better to use it like a Witherhourd

  • @TraumaTrae
    @TraumaTrae Před 9 měsíci

    This fits in nicely with my Caliban's Hand build and is fun to use

  • @ogLenas
    @ogLenas Před 9 měsíci

    Hmmm... I think it's a little unfair to not pair DB with another weapon like a fusion when testing, especially if you are going to compare to something like Apex which requires a full rotation. DB is best when you hit an enemy with full charge, swap for a few shots, let your own combustions fill back to x5 and repeat. The total damage output seems incredible with the ammo economy.

  • @SenorGermaine
    @SenorGermaine Před 9 měsíci

    you got to test dps with it like anarchy. Probably not super high on it's own but could perform well in a swap rotation with pellet shotties or something

  • @larry8651
    @larry8651 Před 9 měsíci

    People don’t know how to use it after you fire at target hold trigger down til you see rocket hit and scorch make sure it’s 3/5x and you won’t get burned

  • @ryantrump3284
    @ryantrump3284 Před 9 měsíci

    It also stuns percyus from spire. (Idk how to spell) We had 3 going and the dude did move at all

  • @JakeDriver
    @JakeDriver Před 9 měsíci +1

    This paired with Calibans could be dirty

  • @talia_al_gabagool
    @talia_al_gabagool Před 9 měsíci

    The seasonal artifact mods are great with this too

  • @Seabearman
    @Seabearman Před 9 měsíci

    I needed to get kills with this thing for the guardian rank, and I also wanted a gold breakneck, so I tried using it in gambit. You have no idea how often I killed myself with it because of just how delayed the explosions can be. I'd open a fight with it, then as I'm leaving the wave, it kills me.

  • @alpine115
    @alpine115 Před 9 měsíci

    Good or not (haven't watch the whole video yet) I'm using it. I've missed Ol' Dragons Breath. It's good to see my old comrade again.

  • @nakulrawat2084
    @nakulrawat2084 Před 9 měsíci

    I think it will work really well in gms where there are ton of enemies near the champs

  • @djdarkskinss6415
    @djdarkskinss6415 Před 9 měsíci

    This is a crowd control heavy weapon design to attach big bosses with small enemies around them.

  • @enkerman
    @enkerman Před 9 měsíci

    Does the fuel build up from ignitions while stowed? Or do you need to be holding it?

  • @Capt_Dango
    @Capt_Dango Před 9 měsíci

    When you do go back and test it with the Catalyst you should not only test it in a Dungeon group, but also a Raid group. See if that diminishing return holds true when you have 6 of them firing at the same target.

  • @pandacrafty
    @pandacrafty Před 9 měsíci

    Does the weapon have to be out to refuel? because my first thought is matching it with supremacy and swapping like a reverse izanagi setup.

  • @Argos_RB
    @Argos_RB Před 9 měsíci

    Scorch and Ignition damage can only be done by one player to an enemy at a time
    So if one player is able to put on 100 scorch stacks by themselves, then another player adding scorch stacks won’t do anything
    This is probably why you’re doing way less damage as a fireteam, every time a scorch stack doesn’t matter, its potential damage is just lost.

  • @Megaderpus_Maximus
    @Megaderpus_Maximus Před 9 měsíci

    So, have a skyburner's hunter with weighted knives?