The 8 Passengers Parents Responded To My Video & They're Angry
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- čas přidán 9. 06. 2022
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Ruby’s got six kids, but I can guarantee that in 15 years, zero of those kids will be willing to speak to her
She needs to realize someone has to take care of her when she’s older. I can guarantee you it ain’t gonna Be her kids, if it is they’ll send her to a mental hospital or sum.
Yeah. Like, ever! They should just cut her off from their lives completely and live life freely without these so-called “parents” stopping them. 🤨
except shari
@@bunnytailss lol, I was about to say the same thing
well she brainwashed them so they might …
As a parent and well, just a human I am HORRIFIED. The homophobia, narcissistic crap and disrespect these kids have to go through from their own parents is disgusting. My blood started boiling when she said that even when a child earns the money to buy something themselves it is still the parent's property and it just got so much worse from there.
Same!
Reasons to just save the money & put it towards getting out of there.
Same!! If you can't respect your child's property and rights to privacy, and if you won't love them unconditionally, don't have kids.
It’s really frustrating! This is like the core reason people have familial trauma, asking a child to forgive all this from the key people who would be nurturing and help guide them through life!!
I’ve been lucky enough to never been through any thing like this!!
My friends, my peers, aren’t so lucky! You are loved, get out if you can, unfortunately your parent may need more time or may take until they’re on their death bed until they regret what they’ve done to their kids. I’m sorry for that!
If it’s too painful for you to confront your parents or if you are in danger and you don’t have a place to go! There are places, resources, and people who will step up to take you in 💗
And this is public, imagine private.
when watching the previous one, my first thought was "I wonder when Markie will be discovered and what will happen". Thank you for everything you do to entertain us with this Momma-Karen
I would watch an entire series of him infiltrating private family vlog groups lolol this is an extremely entertaining niche to me
@@mightymeatymech i know it makes me wanna go back to facebook and make a 'mom' account. i follow the reddit 'shit mom groups say' and get right into how terrible these mothers are!!! poor kids. you have the weirdo religious extremists then the homebirthing mothers who have 9 kids and homeschool them on some remote farm. yikes! makes me grateful for not being totally screwed up as a kid. just a little.
@@mightymeatymech oh, me too for sure!!! That would be hilarious haha
I'm really confused as to why everything is always about the mom, why are you all just ignoring the dad?
@@ScreamingDucksShotMyMother Well, I think it’s situation dependent. This specific vlog is about the “Mom’s of Truth Group” that is run by Ruby & Jodi - two moms. Her family vlog was also 90% her talking & not a lot of her husband.
Thankfully she hasn’t posted on that Vlog for months. But over the years she has taken her kid’s bed away for several months as a punishment, refused to bring her 6 year old lunch after she forgot it, took Christmas away completely for two of her young kids. For the sake of her kids, I’m glad she stopped posting. They don’t deserve to be exploited for money & have their privacy invaded.
I have a friend who was raised in a family very much like this...She couldn't watch anything other than religious cartoons or church programs. She had to dress "modestly". She couldn't participate in dances or go out with friends if boys were in the group. So once she hit 16 she went off the rails. Developed an addiction issue and had 2 babies before graduating high school. She didn't communicate with her parents for several years. Thankfully she's turned her life around and is doing great now but she always tells people the way she was raised set her up to want to do everything she was kept "safe" from.
kids who have super strict parents and are sheltered from everything go mad with power once they’re set free that’s a fact
@@idioticbagel2833 exactly telling the difference between what is *safe* and what isn’t is nye impossible to decipher if you have no real world experience!
One can only hope children escaping this treatment run to *villages* (a chosen family) and not off the beaten path chasing illusions of purity, security, or riches like grifters and con-artists love to use to draw their targets in.
[Believe in my truth and humble yourself to my authority] is more accurate to what they preach.
[No deviation allowed, don’t go exploring elsewhere for answers just stay in my realm and all will be fine! ]
->This is my opinion, don’t sue me Ruby!
= For those that need to hear it! =
Follow creators who got out of these situations and figure out what they did build community there! *I can’t offer the hope you’ll be unscathed but the grass is indeed greener in this regard!*
EXACTLY! Those kids will NEVER go back once they’re able to escape! This family is nuts! My 12 yo tells me everything because she knows I was crazy when I was a teen LOL...hell she told me in 6th grade she was “invited” to skip school and get “high” on Percs😳😳😂 World is fast moving so you BETTER have an open and SECURE relationship with your children!!!
She will be a “Nana” a lot sooner than I will I bet😂😂😂😂😳
@@erinntay yep. I'm the same way with my daughters because I was a "wild" teen too. My kids have been told my experiences and have seen me attend funerals for friends who didn't grow out of the "wild" phase. It's important to be honest with your kids but also allow them to make their own mistakes otherwise they won't be prepared for the real world.
I never really went wild or anything but my parents would offer me things like cigarettes or alcohol and by doing that I didn’t feel the need to really do it because you know when someone tells you not to do something you’re like I’m gonna do it I want to tell you can do something you’re like oh well doesn’t seem that fun then it’s kind of reverse psychology so I totally get why she wild out
the boys going to prom together and their mom being disgusted crushed my heart :(
Yeah. That’s awful... She’s acting homophobic... 😔
Right?! I hope that wherever they did get ready/take photos was somewhere and with people that celebrated them. I can’t imagine being anything but over the moon to see my son getting dressed up with his BF for prom!
broke my heart too. a parent’s job when it comes to love is to love unconditionally. it shouldn’t be a point of contention.
I'm glad that he has people around him who support him. It breaks my heart that his mothers love to him is conditional.
I'm a 27 year veteran Paramedic/Firefighter. When I came out as trans my entire immediate and extended families got together and voted me out of the family. I even earned the "Medal of Valor" during my service. None of that mattered though as I supposedly violated their Bible beliefs. So sick of religious hypocrites.
Thank you for your service. You have spent your life helping people, I'm sorry your family doesn't recognize that.
@@maddiemoo222 thanks. My family just shows the toxic effects of religion when it's militarized. Nothing should separate families and cause so much misery.. That's their issues, but it may not be everyone's. They are so hypocritical in that they are racist, xenophobic, transphobic, homophobic, white nationalist who demand a Christian Nationalist country. Most of the things lusted are directly spoken against in their Bible. Cherry picking zealotry has to stop. If one follows the text, they must accept the full text.
Thanks for the recognition. 🙂
I'm so sorry that happened to you. Must have been incredibly hurtful.
@@purplepixie274 just showed me all love does come with conditions. Be good and you have it. Break the mold and you don't. I just couldn't see how people who grew up around my since birth could so easily walk away.
i'm sorry your family didn't accept you for who you really are. i know this may not mean much from a stranger, but I'm so proud of you, your accomplishments, and your courage to come out. best wishes to you
my dad very recently came out to his remaining family. he just turned 58, and none of them wished him happy birthday for the first time. it was really hard to hear and since i moved out a long time ago it’s hard to be there for him. he had a feeling they were going to ostracize him which is why it took him so long, and it was awful that he was proven right. this kind of judgement is so damaging to keep perpetuating and i don’t know why people still do it. it’s not worth losing people important to you by judging them for something ultimately trivial. even if it is a “issue” with their faith, that’s between them and God at that point (i’m not religious, but since 8P are i wanted to comment as an ex-christian). best to live and let live. so painful.
EDIT: thank you for all of the super sweet comments. my dad lives in a predominantly lgbt+ area and my mom and i still love him and spend holidays with him all the time. i think he's going to be okay but he was really hurt. i'm hoping his summer traveling will heal him; he's meeting his boyfriend's family in europe!
Ugh hate that! People need to know even if you don’t support lgbtqia+ you don’t have to be homophobic. I don’t necessarily support it but I ain’t gonna tear people out of my life for it. Especially as a Christian! If God says to love everyone, where is this love? It makes me so mad that people say “Choose life! God says to love everyone even if they don’t exist yet!” But yet are so homophobic they can’t be associated with anyone of the sort. Such hypocrites! I wish nothing but the best for you and your dad.
Sorry for this mini rant it’s been building up a long time.
@@idioticbagel2833 I agree with you entirely. It’s incredibly frustrating seeing the hypocrisy they have and lack of empathy/respect they give towards people who are a part of the lgbtq+. They act as if they aren’t sinners as well!
Omg can we send him cards of love and support? Can you set up a BO Pox for him? My gf can post this on other forums and get a tidal wave of cards and positive words sent his way! Please please please, I feel so sad!
@@idioticbagel2833 appreciate it, thank you. ♡
@@Lee-fw9mr that'd be really nice but i move around a lot and he's traveling also (taking a nice vacation with his boyfriend lol) so i don't know how viable it would be. thank you so much for the support, though. it means a lot. ♡
i spend literally hours talking with my kid's friends that are gay or trans BECAUSE their parents treat them like trash. I grew up as a bi woman in a religious home who was told god hated me. i now have to tell kids "your parents are full of shit. wait a few more years and you can be who you want, live where you want, change your name, and never think about what your parents call you or tell you ever again." it kills me how much these parents don't realize telling your kid, who loves you more than life, that they are disgusting might make them suicidal. astonishing...
Depressing but as someone with a dad who *probably* has NPD, i think some of them might know. And they might enjoy it. Not gonna go into specifics but sometimes you can tell when someone takes pleasure in your hopelessness. :(
I'm glad you're there for those kids, you're literally saving lives one moment of kindness at a time ♡
Im a dance teacher and I have a group of older students that every one of them identifies as 2SLGBTQIA+ in some way. I’m non-binary, pan and poly. For a lot of them, I’m one of the few role models they have that encourage and embrace them for who they are. Not teaching them or shielding them from these things didn’t work for their parents. All it did was make them depressed, anxious, and lonely
@@mightymeatymech I just can't understand hating your own. Sometimes people don't deserve kids. Ruby seems like she enjoys tormenting kids. When she bragged about her daughter going hungry because she forgot her lunch and how no one was allowed to feed her. That woman is sick.
Although I know you're coming from a good place, I don't know that it's right to tell kids that their own parents are full of shit. You can offer support without insulting their parents. Kids can be very defensive of their parents even if they know they are wrong. You bad mouthing them isn't going to help you. Just being supportive and inclusive will.
GAAAH I HATE PEOPLE WHO SAY IF GOD HATES YOU! geez. Even if he did that would be between you and God not anyone else. Besides based on that logic God is wrong, because he says to love everyone. The thing is God isn’t wrong it’s you who is wrong, God does indeed love you, and that’s a fact. Gosh people make me mad.
these children are basically living in a household that operates in the same way as a cult - but publicized. I am horrified.
It’s horrific, I wonder how long it’ll take before one of the kids exposes her from their perspective
I have a friend who’s parents are kinda like this (strict but they would never take his bed away) the day he turned 21 he went out and drank so much he was in the hospital for 2 days. He drank 2 full bottles of straight vodka back to back. Nobody ever taught him about alcohol and he was never exposed to it. That’s what’s going to happen to these kids except on a much more extreme level and it will probably go further than just about alcohol. Really your kids are gonna find out regardless don’t you want to teach them how to handle it safely. Seriously feel bad for these kids.
I have had so many friends in this situation! I grew up in a ridiculously strict Christian school from K5 to senior year... So sheltered to the point where they couldn't go to movie theaters or listen to music that we did because it was "sinful"... Most of those kids now are either dead, addicted to drugs, or in jail. Once they graduated and had freedom they didn't know what to do with it. So sad
My parents had a friend who did the exact same thing
Needless to say I and my brother learnt about alcohol and drugs as kids. How it effects you, the dangers, etc.
They even let us sip small amounts of wine at home. Guess what? I don't drink at all now. I just hate alcohol.
My brother does but in small controlled amounts. Like a responsible adult.
Because we both know what alcohol is.
Teach your children, parents!
This could also happen to kids who are exposed to alcohol. It is a fact that kids who are allowed to taste alcohol with the parents are most likely to become an alcoholic.
@@tindrabeam5922 It all depends on how the parents teach you about it.
@@tindrabeam5922 Do you have a source for that?
I just watched Stranger Things 4 with my 12 and 8-year-old. Give me a break. We also talk every night about everything in their lives. They come to me when they struggle because they know I'm a common-sense sounding board. I grew up with a mom like Ruby all it teaches you is to repress emotion and all that matters is the impression of perfection. When I was first told I had cancer I called my mom she told me not to talk about it as it might make people feel uncomfortable. LOL
You sound like a great mom, they're so so lucky :)
Being a good sounding board is so Important, my brother brings every issue he has to his mom and me. And it's really good to know he feels safe enough to do that.
Ps ooh I'm so excited for part 2 of season 4 lol. It's so nuts how much the cast has grown, they all seem so sweet and kind 😭😭
i remember coming home at 15, high as all f**k on weed and sitting at the foot of my mom's bed for an hour just babbling to her. we had such great talks. she didn't know i was high, but i think she had an idea. she was funny because she would accuse me of being high when i'd come home completely straight. she was also into that whole impression of perfection thing too though. she was a single mom and had 8 brothers and sisters and a huge extended family and they really judged her. so my brothers and i were curated quite a bit during family visits.
sorry to hear you had cancer, I hope you're ok 😊
SAME HERE! I grew up with a TERRIBLY Narcissistic mother who demanded perfection. I have a 12 yo daughter and we talk about EVERYTHING because when I turned 16 I went off the rails! Drugs, alcohol, sex and even a teen pregnancy (I had a miscarriage)....so as a 47yo mother now I let my daughter ASK AND TELL whatever she needs to so that she won’t do what I did!
(I’m a RN x 25+ years now so I did eventually straighten up lol)
That's is an absolutely a disgusting response to your child telling you they have cancer. I'm so sorry.
This woman’s “advice” is going to get children hurt. She shouldn’t be allowed to spew such trash unchallenged
it’s terrifying.
It’s scary bc there parents that will listen to these assholes . It’s really sad 😞
I was raised by parents like these people when it came to privacy, and it caused me to resent them A LOT for a very long time. I still don’t forgive them for most of it, and they would deny it’s abuse until the day they die. I have nothing to hide now, but I get anxious from someone going through my stuff. It’s a horrible feeling and I promise you, you will only make your children more rebellious, you’re not fixing or helping anything.
Could be trying to keep them by using fear and manipulation tactics but yeah it doesn't work most of the time because the person is already undoing all of their work (Not like it was good in the first place).
If she does end up losing her children, I bet she'd blame them as she has not shown any signs of remorse.
Not having privacy teaches kids how to be good liars and hide things. It's absolutely awful. I'm so sorry to hear that you experienced something similar. I would absolutely resent my parents if they stripped my privacy away even if I had nothing to hide. It really is abusive!!
JUST CREATES BETTER LIARS imo. 😜
The thing is she also blames the kids for being… kids. So she protects them from the internet and sexuality but would still literally blame them for being naive and having urges or being groomed.
That's one of the worst things about her. I don't know how she expects her kids to be so perfect. To the point where a 6 year old isn't allowed to forget their lunch at home... its so sickening she wants to raise robots not children
The messed up part is that she actually is grooming them…
I think that's part of the power play - you don't let them know anything without your permission so when they try to learn - you shut them down for not knowing all this information you prevented them from learning. You always have the advantage of knowing more than them-even if its skewed by your crazy beliefs. And the kid in turn feels like every opinion they have is stupid and they will refrain from deviating bc they will never know more than their parents. Of course that doesn't last long bc you can only repress a person so much before they snap or become despondent. Su*cide not being a parents fault my ass. That parenting is basically a handbook on how to create adults that are self destructive and broken.
@@torihanabi literally, isn’t their oldest daughter dating her own cousin?!?!
Someone needs to write a post about their child reading a book that has all sorts of things in it--gore, violence, warfare, all sorts of deviancy even by the so-called heroes--and say they took it away from their child. But oh my gosh--it was the Bible!
i’m half tempted to do that, i just want to make sure markie here would cover it 😂
Make sure it’s the version where it calls a donkey a ass! 😱🤣
I mean I could sneak into the group chat and say made-up reverses (I'm probably not going to though)
See I thought about that aswell XD bible isn’t exactly a kids book is it
No but for real I’m making my way of reading through the Bible cause I’ve never actually read the whole thing and I was raised in a catholic household and as I’m going through it I’m like 😱😱🫣🫢 THE SCANDAL , murder , incest, jealousy, prostitution, betrayal and I’m like wow .. this is like a diary of sinners .. and then there’s the Big guy with his sense of humor . Honestly the Bible is a very interesting read 👌🏼👌🏼
CHILDREN HAVE A HUMAN RIGHT TO PRIVACY.
CHILDREN ARE NOT YOUR PROPERTY RUBY.
PERIOD!!
I hate when parents think they own their kids. Like no, you’re here to keep the alive, not to train them into “obedience”. All she’s doing is creating sneaky kids who will find every which way to get around her
Fun fact! The right to privacy is proven in the brain. Highly recommend reading the paper on Dignity Neuroscience by Tara White, it is genuinely so eye-opening. It shows how being deprived of rights affect the brain, like a lack of privacy.
From a psych stand point, removing all privacy when they are starting to develop those aspects of their brain is detrimental to their development 🤯
Totally agree! It’s truly disgusting how they don’t view privacy as a necessity. The only thing that will breed is stress, anxiety, and probably more secrecy
That's what this family wants-They DON'T want their kids to develop into anything but Mormon drones.
@@saskia7214 yeah....no......thats not normal
@@saskia7214 this comment confuses me im so sorry but what
@@saskia7214 millennials grew up in the 90s/early 2000s 🤦🏼♀️
They need to be taken off the internet. They're dangerous and will never ever listen to someone that isn't as closed as them.
it makes me sick to see ruby say that her point of view is the absolute TRUTH. how can people be so full of hatred for others who don't maintain a 'cookie cutter' nuclear family.
god forbid you are find yourself in love with someone of the same sex. you should be able to control that. you aren't humble.
No they need to have their kids removed from their home period
Holy crap. She’s a sith lord. Her saying “anger can be done in truth” is the most sith thing I have ever heard. 😂😂
😂 🤣🤣🤣if she was a Star Wars character, I don’t even think Emperor Palpatine would let her join!
I love how this woman talks about being humble, while also talking about "truth" as if she has a monopoly on it. Like it doesn't occur to her that not everyone is going to think of the same things as "truth".
Thought the same thing. So hypocritical
When she keeps using the word "TRUTH" as her go-to justification for literally everything... it gives me cult-vibes. "That is not Truth. This does not align with The Truth. That does not reflect the principles of Truth." ------- Super cult-vibes.
@@Lee-fw9mr it is a cult
exactly. and a "lie" is literally anything she doesn't believe. she's like "you're upset by what i say? it's because it's the truth" but in the same breath "i'm upset by what you're saying because it's not the truth!!!"
cult language. "truth" "principal" "humble" i feel like these people need to pick up a dictionary
When Ruby talks I almost think she has an entirely different dictionary she talks from. The words she uses like "humble". The way she seems to use it is VERY different than what it actually means.
She's probably in a cult.
She does that thing that “Christians” do (not real ones) where she used the bible as a crutch to express her disgusting world views to avoid trouble. Cause if somebody tells her off she can just say “well I have the freedom of religion blah blah blah”. Cult like structures like this never last long. They always fall apart, and I imagine once Ruby has realised the gravity of what she’s done, it’ll be too late to heal her relationships
They speak in riddles and circles and i agree their definition of truth, distortion humble are NOT mine
The fact that this mom is losing her mind because her child watched Stranger Things is just hilarious to me. 😂💀
Now THIS is journalism. Other CZcamsrs need to take heed. You legit infiltrated a group to get us first hand knowledge. Thank you for your service!
When that one parent was talking about how upset they were about their son being gay, it launched me right back to high school. My own mother said verbatim that she had failed me, and she threatened to make me end things with my now husband. (Mind you, this was after she confronted me about her suspicions that I was gay, so effectively, she dragged me out of the closet.)
She thought I was being influenced and told me a lot more bullshit about how I was straying from God (lmao, I already had "strayed from God), and asked me, "Now that you're gay, do you believe in God?" Like, ma'am, I've always BEEN gay, you're just finding out now.
Those parents are FREAKING insane!
“Every child deserves a parent; not every parent deserves a child”
If I had parents like these I would leave as soon as I was 18, no one deserves to live a life you don’t want to lead. Also lots and lots of therapy would be needed to help with the healing process.
They aren't allowed to live there past 18 anyways
a couple things i find funny about the whole stranger things situation:
1. the kid has DEFINITELY watch the past 3 seasons already
2. saying it “promotes homosexuality” when the entire season is teaching its audience to accept its lesbian character for who she is and treat her like any straight person (which is more ironic as the mother is not accepting it now but characters from the 80’s are)
3. the satanic stuff she says it promotes is what they make fun of in the show - media propaganda from the 80’s surrounding DnD which isn’t true at all, which she still believes to this day 😭
This actually broke my heart... No child deserves to have parents like these evil humans... I honestly don't know how people can be so horrible. I want adopt all the children that were spoken about in this, especially the boy who simply went to prom with a boy he loved and had to keep it secret cause of his mothers issues... Children should be loved no matter there sexual orientation, this is awful, no child should be treated like this 💔😢
i have a lot of friends who had parents like this and they ended up being hardcore “crazy teenagers” because they had legitimate animosity towards their parents. this way of parenting is so so bad it makes me feel sick literally
Legit. Every kid I know who had parents like this just became sneaky or unhinged. Drug addiction was the most common thing I saw, that and just sneaking around their parents (who were clueless).
Since this is all public, I wonder if these kids will publicly expose their parents from their perspective
That’s pretty accurate
This is an entire video on how to ensure your kids never come to see you and you never get to meet your grandkids.
my parents are pastors so they taught us this “truth” ruby talks about & bc of my constant feeling like a disappointment and the yearning for my parents to be proud of me and to accept me for who i am and it did make me suicidal when i lived with them. i recently got diagnosed with bipolar 1 & borderline personality disorder and started medication and my dad literally thought i was making it up
Oml one of my friends has ADHD and her mom thinks it’s a sin… she thinks all mental illnesses/disorders are sins… sorry God made my brain work differently. That’s terrible some parents don’t deserve to have kids but all kids deserve good parents. I may not know you but I’m proud of you. I wish nothing but the best for you. Much love ❤️🩹
i am so sorry
@@idioticbagel2833 🥹🥹 you’re so sweet thank you
Some “pastors” they are. Wow
@@PCats-2023 right smh
i was raised by a homophobic parent who took my whole room away, not just a bed. lets just say our relationship will never be the same. if these moms think their kids will talk to them after they move out, theyre sincerely mistaken
When their kids turn 18, I can tell y’all all right now, they will get the hell out of that house so fast & probably cease all communication with them…and I really hope they do
When are they not angry? Their children pay the price, but their parents need a major time out, lunch taken away, and sleep on the floor for a year.
They’re never gonna stop because they’re mentally insane & evil. They don't care if it’s wrong... 😔
Can’t wait to hear Ruby’s oldest child tell her story to the world
Exposing her abusive, narcissistic mom
This woman may “love” her kids, but we can guarantee she will barely see them after they’re into adulthood
Me too
Oh no! Not... gay. *gasp* No please, not our children learning about themselves and their asexuality! Oh the HUMANITY! Make it STOP! *insert eye roll here*
These people need to get a grip nowadays....🙄🤦🏻♀️
@@nichellesworld1360 They won’t until their children walk away from her toxicity, never to look back. She’ll blame THEM for a time, until she wakes up and realizes she’s alone because of her choices. Or maybe she won’t. Either way I hope her kids leave and find happiness.
Telling kids they don’t have any right to privacy sets them up to not recognise when they are being abused. Not having the power to decide when privacy occurs can mean they allow more than they should in a situation. I think Ruby is setting them up for failure here. I child who has privacy, knows what the bounds of privacy are can recognise when the line is crossed.
This man is separating his family from other human contact as a way to control them. Don't be surprised to find out ,after these kids are old enough to get away, that the parents are abusing them in much more disturbing ways.
Drumroll please...August 2023
And it's no surprise why CPS got called on them. It really isn't.
What happened?
@@phillipsmom6252 It's because of them making Chad sleep on a bean bag for 7 months as "punishment" for pranking his younger brother before they moved, and telling the teacher at Eve's school to not give her any food when she forgot her lunch at home.
They also MADE Chad go to that survival school, cause he was not acting how he should be ( uh you mean like teenage boys act? ) Claiming they talked to professionals ( in healthcare ) about it.
@@mary.1984 👍 wow
I've never met a child raised like this who loves their parents and keeps contact after being freed. I don't talk to my grandma the same way her grandkids won't talk to her in the future. It's sad, but you reap what you sow. If your kids only see you as authority, they will never see you as comfort. And without comfort, there's no love.
The truth is if Ruby were poor and didn't hide behind religion, with the things she has openly said and the things she's done (like withholding food from her children which is legally, in the US, neglect) she would have had her children taken by the state or, at the least, recieved a CPS caseworker of her very own alongside an open case with the agency. Could you imagine going to someone like that for parenting advice? 🤦 The moms who truly go to that woman wanting to know what a woman who abuses and neglects her kids and calls it "punishment" has to say about anything pertaining to raising kids need to be side -eyed at the very least.
When you're not awful to your children and open with them, they don't hide stuff from you.
Smart comment thank you
True. My mom has never judged me and is always open with me and i tell her everything
Yup. My mother controlled everything and after a failed suicide attempt I lived with my Dad who was so relaxed with me. He actually helped my healing because we had a good understanding of what we talked about, how much respect he gave me and how much freedom I had to learn from my own decisions and any consequences that may naturally occur.
💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯% great comment
@@blakethekilljoy my kids sometimes overshare😂😂😂..but they know that their dad & i love n respect them and they can tell us anything .
My parents were mostly absent and doing other things while I was growing up, but my aunt and uncle were the complete opposite with my cousin who lived a few houses down. She was sheltered away from everything and had zero privacy during her childhood and…well, she got addicted to multiple hard drugs by sixteen and was sneaking out partying every night. I was always home watching CZcams. Dunno if leaving me alone all the time was the best way to parent, but I know it took away most of the thrill of acting out. Wish my cousin wasn’t chasing that thrill. :/
That's kinda what happened to me, my parents were busy so they didn't have a lot of time for me and my brother. My mom always made sure to devote her free time to us, and I saw my dad like twice every day. We were basically raised by our nanny because my mom refused to leave us with my grandma (and grandpa) because she hated her. We still hung out, but that 'acting out' never enticed me as much as it did, for example, my classmate and her siblings who had a severely strict dad and step mom. But yea, grew up watching CZcams and that's still what I do all day every day
Züzû hell yeah bro same here!
@@soggy3342 hell ye
This lady is delusional and or crazy AF, I have 4 kids ranging in ages from 16 (almost 17) and my youngest is 8… I am not the perfect mother by any means what so ever and my kids aren’t perfect angels either… but it seems to me that all she does is look for the kids doing something wrong… that would make for a miserable life for both mom and kids
I’m so glad my parents don’t know about this group on Facebook bc me being 16 with age restrictions, time limits and can’t text people that my parents don’t like, and not allowed to go anywhere but instead stay home all summer is like enough for me. If my parents were like ruby and Kevin it would push me over the edge
I am so sorry your dealing with that. I have a daughter who is 18 and she just graduated today. I couldn’t imagine being that controlling. It doesn’t teach you decision making skills cause your never making any choices for yourself. When you get old enough and decide to move out be careful cause life can be super overwhelming when your not prepared to deal with it cause you were never prepared for it. I am a recovering drug addict and being unprepared for adult life is one the things that can make someone turn to drugs cause they don’t know how to cope. I hope you can find some caring adults to look up to that can help prepare you for life. Please keep your head up you technically only have like 2 more years and then can go live somewhere outside of your parent’s home. I really wish you the best of luck and I hope you find the strength to rise above what your going through.
I come from a very racist, homophobic, sexist, violent, addicted, extended family. Because of that I’m very loud in my support for the LGBTQ+ community, blm, mental health, and safety. I’ve also dropped all of my family but my dad, my moms passed or I’d be close with her still, and made my friend group even smaller. I’m a firm believer in family isn’t always blood and I’m a lot closer to my best friends family than I have been with my extended family. Ruby and Kevin makes me think of my family and reminds me of the craziness I’ve grown up with. I really feel for Ruby’s kids they need to get out of there ASAP. I’m the type of people who don’t sugar coat things and there’s times where it causes people to wake up, but it’s rare.
Honestly if I'd had a mother like Ruby or Jodie, I would be completely off the rails. I would be doing drugs, binge drinking, smoking, sleeping around and putting myself into extremely dangerous situations because parents like Ruby and Jodie don't bond with their children and develop a relationship where their children feel that they can come to their parents with any and every problem or situation. Their kids are FOR SURE lying to them because they know they can't trust their parents with what they're dealing with in life
You know their advice is bad and going to impact the children's lives when us who aren't child psychologists etc can see how messed up the "advice" is and how it will impact them possibly into adulthood
I actually joined this group before I found your video. The single laugh react on the question about the 16 year old is mine 😂 I think these ladies are ridiculous so I just say everything they don’t want to hear
You guys might think this is all fun and games and funny but I have a bad feeling about this. This is how Lori Vallow started out- “normal” Mormon to this deep end shit. She’s got Kevin on her side, just like Chad Daybell was to Lori.
I’m not a true crime conspiracy theorist I just have an overwhelming bad feeling, especially since she’s also isolated her immediate family from outside family members.
Y’all this isn’t good.
Def, I'm 90% sure it's indoctrination and a power struggle amongst their parents.
I had the thought of one of her kids getting involved with a boy and them killing ruby and Kevin. I know it's bad to think that but I did. It's happened alot when kids wanna date with controlling parents.
@@houseofbows I've heard a story about a girl whom did that, she had very strict tiger parents
“Where do I put this energy?” “In the f##king bin will do.” 😂
Having been raised a fundamental christian and drifting into pentecostal churches at 18, I'm sorry for every person I judged and condemned. I'm sorry. I didn't know any better.
What matters is that you reformed. I wish you every happiness❤❤
As a trans and bi guy, Thank you for apologising. What’s the most important thing now is that you realised what you did was wrong and have changed. I don’t blame you for your beliefs, indoctrination is very unkind. I wish you all the best in your life going forward :)
It’s hard to admit when you were wrong but you did and that’s a great step into growing as a person. I don’t know you but I’m proud of you
"The belief that we have no control over our sexuality is not true and is not a principle", Kevin...are you gay? Its okay, but is that what you're trying to tell us here? 😅
I don’t think these people know what being humble is. If they were truly humble they wouldn’t treat their morals/beliefs as superior. Hope they have fun when their kids go no contact with them when they’re adults.
My mom went through my school email while I was away at college and I only found out when I missed an important assignment because she’d forgotten to mark an emails as “unread.”
She also went through my phone and diary. And she started sobbing when I was upset about it.
And the thing is, she isn’t religious or even a mean mom. She is very loving. Except she’s had horrible untreated depression her whole life (her alcoholic father beat her with the buckle end of a belt and backhanded her into glass cabinets). She doesn’t trust therapists and she can’t stand the numbness she gets from antidepressants. My dad was emotionally abusive (narcissist) and it was just me and mom living in the house most of my life. It broke her when I went to college. She called me crying every day and I drove home every single weekend the first year.
I didn’t even realize how abnormal the dynamic was until I started talking to my friends about it. I’m in therapy but still have issues feeling responsible for my mom’s (and dad’s) emotions.
These kids aren’t even going to know how bad it really is until they’re out of that house and not exposed to it all the time.
"Children are not entitled to privacy" aaaaaand I'm out 🚩 abuser's bible 101.
I’m from Utah and used to be apart of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, I was born and raised in the religion. I wanted to give a bit more context to “losing his privileges in the church” because while that already sounds horrible on paper, it doesn’t give the full picture.
The LDS church is a high demand religion, they require that you pay 10% of your income in tithing, don’t drink coffee, tea, or alcohol, wear clothing that covers your shoulders and your thighs, come to church every Sunday (with obvious exceptions such as being sick), and participate in church roles like teaching in Sunday school, etc. But when you live in Utah, that intensity gets taken up a notch since most of your neighbors, co-workers, friends, and family around you will be members as well. So when something like what happened to that man/client of Jodi’s happens, it’s not just “losing privileges”-you lose your entire social standing and at worst get black balled in your community to the point where you may have to move just so you can have a life again. That type of thing in an LDS community in Utah can literally ruin your entire life.
I grew up in the LDS/Mormon church and honestly, everything Ruby says is stuff I would hear regularly from adults I was very close to. It's not uncommon in the church to find people with these perspectives. It's not everyone, but it absolutely does exist.
I absolutely agree. I still am a member of the LDS church, and sadly people still think this way. The prophet has come out multiple times saying that it's not their place to judge, but some people just don't listen.
@@sexyquesadilla4423 idk how you can be part of a church that promotes this sort of thing though
@@KANDI- we don't promote this sort of thing. Ruby and Kevin are not doing what the prophet has told us. They can't claim that their principles are truth.
@@sexyquesadilla4423 your church kicked a gay couple out of it when they got married. you may not agree with this but the church you belong to actively discriminates against gay/ lgbtq people
@@KANDI- where did you read that? While we are taught that traditional marriage is between Man and woman, we do not discriminate or hate anyone who decides otherwise. It's like putting pineapple on pizza, you don't have to agree with them but it's not a reason to hate them. Most members do not discriminate, so check your facts.
I'm just gonna leave that here:
"There are a number of important laws protecting children’s right to privacy. One of the most important is Article 16 of the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child (UNCRC), which states: “No child shall be subjected to arbitrary or unlawful interference with his or her privacy, family, home or correspondence, nor to unlawful attacks on his or her honour and reputation.”"
“People take their own lives because they haven’t learned how to use their agency to choose their way out of the pain.” Damn, I think Ruby just solved depression. Gonna be a lot of therapists out of work when word gets out.
I know we already knew these guys are bad but god they are bad, I feel so sorry for the kids 😔
I love that that one mom basically said the only “principle” that matters is loving your kid, and Ruby and Kevin pop in like “well actually 🤮”
I joined the “Moms of Truth” page and I was banned for simply liking a comment that had a differing opinion. Whatevs but I think they’re nuts.
These people see children as property, as something they made and belongs to them. They dehumanise their children every step of the way. They have the right to have space to look at what interest them and create their own opinions on stuff even if that’s not the same opinion as you. They aren’t some part of you you made and own that needs to follow you and agree with you with every step without question. They are first and foremost individual human beings, and they have the right to have different feelings then you, different opinions then you and different views then you.
Your child is not your property, your child is a human being.
I'm a teacher. Talking to parents about legal relationships is not part of my job description. Even illegal relationships - that goes up the chain (guidance officer, head of year, police etc).
Cult. Cult. Cult. Cult.
Wowwwww. ruby's thoughts on suicide are so disgusting and wrong, I dont know how her brain came up with that
Her brain is working in so many wrong ways & directions... 🤦🏻♀️🙄
Also, she’s disconnected from reality & is not mentally well.
@@nichellesworld1360 She really is so disconnected from reality!! She's so focused on "principles" but she doesn't realize that these principles are ruining her kids' lives. How are these "life lessons" even worth it at that point if her children are also going to be mentally unstable when they're older from her parenting
For college, I did a Rogerian Argument on Family CZcams Channels (against). Finding anything credible for the opposing side was difficult.
When Ruby said, "people profit off of being not humble." No Ruby, you profit off of your children.
I’m straight and all 3 of my sisters are bi. I have a weird thing where I somehow seem to know what will happen in the future, as I asked my parents when I was around 10 how they would react if one of us liked the same gender and they said they wouldn’t care at all as long as we’re happy. One of my sisters is more into girls now and I’m glad that our whole family supports her. My roommate and some of my friends are gay. It’s not a “sin”. I feel so bad for these children that aren’t supported by the people who should support them the most. Just as people don’t choose to be straight, people don’t choose to be gay.
Mom: “This is my fault”
Moms logic: “I guess if I take away their devices it won’t be an issue”
LIKE WHAT?!
I remember watching the last video and while scrolling immediately while seeing this.. LOL. Thank you for all you do !!
When she said that kids are not entitled to privacy I was like, “so you just gonna watch them while they use the bathroom then?”
Oml. The labrant fam literally named their child Sunday because the baby is easy like a Sunday afternoon… or at least that’s what I got from their Instagram post. Yup.
man i want a front row seat for when ruby and frank stroll up to the pearly gates and are turned away. like, jokes on them. the "Truth" of god is to love and treat others with kindness, not taking away your kids bed because they made their sibling cry. god would be ashamed of them.
I don't think they are as Christian as they say, christ would definitely not like them (They were probably born into the lifestyle and see it more as a title)
Could not even imagine having them as parents!!!! 💕
Well thank God someone finally told me I could just choose not to have depression, anxiety, PTSD, and chronic pain!
As a mother of a almost 18 year old you’d be surprised at how many mothers do parent like this, even in the UK!
My lad is perfect, he has been brought up with privacy and free will, he is polite and honest BY CHOICE because he wants to, he loves me unconditionally because he wants to, nothing should be forced or removed IMO!
There’s no handbook that comes with having children and every stage is a struggle in its own way! You have to be there for your child, their living it, we were there once too! It’s far from easy growing up and if you forget your own experiences and fears then you’re a lost cause! Parenting this way is disgusting, it’s just a power trip, control and manipulation with the little people you brought into this world! The adult relationships will be cracked and fake! So sad, I feel for these kids 😢
“In the fuckin bin” 😂😂😂
I found you a few days ago and just gotta say keep the great work up!! ❤️
I have had so many friends in this situation! I grew up in a ridiculously strict religious school from K5 to 12th grade... So sheltered to the point where kids couldn't go to movie theaters or listen to music other than hymns because it was "sinful"... Most of those kids now are either dead, addicted to hard drugs, or in jail. Once they graduated and had freedom they didn't know what to do with it. So sad. Thankfully my parents were kind of chill and didn't raise me like that...but I am still going to therapy to this day to work on issues that occurred from being in that cult like school.
That is so insanely depressing that so many kids turned out so poorly because of that school. I feel like just those statistics alone should get them shut down
I'd not be surprised if my mum was in this group. She has the 'obey me because I'm your mother' mentality. I'm literally 29. As well as being a narcissist. My dad ain't any better.
Yeah. This Facebook group just needs to be wiped from the internet 😂.
For good. 😌 #cancelled
Your side comments while reading the facebook posts are hilarious!! :p
“Even if that child earned money all summer to buy it, it’s still the parents property” bruh what? 😂 no-
As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, I can confirm that not all of us are homophobic, trans phobic, paranoid monsters. Sadly, there are extreme conservative families within our church that put their unhappiness and misinformation on others but don't let people like this reflect on the rest of our community. ✨most of us✨ have brains and a decent grasp on reality and respect others for who they are and don't force our beliefs on u just because u live differently then us. Hope u all have an amazing day and remember someone will always love u 💛
Oh Rubi and Kevin need their kids rescued, like they literally need to not be parents
I’m so grateful for you. I stopped watching awhile back I couldn’t handle the whole wilderness camp. And then she decorated his new room with all the traumatizing decor. Gross and then the bed thing. So wild. They got the new house. And that was it. I just found out they’re not doing videos any more but dude you give me everything I need to be updated on the drama. She’s crazy. Teaching me things i shouldn’t do
Someone needs to call CPS on these people…it’s actually horrifying to think that people like this exist in this world! Those poor children :(
8:07 This genuinely broke my heart. The only comfort I have is that hopefully the kid just has a few years left with his evil family and then he can move out.
It makes sense she thinks children don’t deserve privacy, the way she forced her daughter to pretty much post videos about every milestone of puberty and adolescence on their channel, including her first period and bra shopping 🙄
That's absolutely disgusting. Imagine going through puberty and having to share it with EVERYONE???
Ugh. I was a mess going through puberty. I was ugly, moody, overall just a mess. I can’t imagine my mother ever making me do something like that. It disgusts me to even think about. I’m still ugly but every gorgeous woman I’ve seen used to be ugly so that’s the hope I’m clinging onto. Honestly the more I hear about 8P the more I hate them.
@@idioticbagel2833 lol girl, be kinder to yourself. I don't know your age, but I've also been there and I wish someone had told me this.
“Kids don’t have the right to privacy”
The UN, and the Supreme Court disagrees
I never comment Callum but I’m always watching , big up 🙏 💯
there is now 5.2k members😂😂
What’s humble about thinking you know the truth to all truths 💀
I love your videos man 😂😂😂
Omg I fully wondered why Ruby and Kevin don’t speak to her side of the family, this now makes sense! I used to be obsessed with all of their videos and now they honestly turn my stomach, they’re completely tapped.
Coming from a strictly southern baptist upbringing let me tell ya around 12 you start losing your mind realizing how controlled your life is and having a deep fear of consequences. Knowing whatever you do is watched and critiqued. Now that i’m a parent im 100% different from my parents and its so freeing and healing
The only word she seems to know are humble honestly and responsibility
That's a stretch; she doesn't even know what it means to be those things.
Don’t forget principles
My husband was totally raised like this and as SOON as he got his driver's license he went bat shit crazy and went wild. It took YEARS until he came back down to Earth and stopped railing against any kind of rules and discipline. People who parent like this are DESTROYING their kids. It's so sad.
"Kevin's shiny head" 😂👌🏻